| madmetaltom 08.01.2012 11:19 |
do you think they will release them in 2 box sets? Tell me what you think |
| Pim Derks 08.01.2012 12:15 |
I would love a Live Killers boxset, including the original album remixed and updated to include tracks like It's Late, Fat Bottomed Girls, Somebody To Love and If You Can't Beat Them. Throw in a dvd with highlights of the 1979 tour. Some replicas of tourbooks/tickets/merchandise. Include the new version of the album on 4 45-RPM red/green 12" discs. Include a download for a full soundboard show from the 1979 tour. But we'll probably get Budapest on DVD or something. |
| Jimmy Dean 08.01.2012 12:27 |
Personally, I don't see a box happening... There is more than enough material for one, however. They should remaster it and include the additional tracks Pim mentioned... This is what Zeppelin did with Soundtrack to the film The Song Remains The Same. Additionally, they should release the Kampuchea concert on blu-ray simultaneously. We'd all be content with that. |
| Kevinrm15 08.01.2012 13:03 |
Both will be reissued this year, but unsure about bonus being included. Live Killers however will contain PROPER sleeve notes. |
| Doga 08.01.2012 16:26 |
A Bluray release of Hammy 79 would be great. They find/have the masters at the end? And other question, is the gig filmed in 16 mm? if the answer is yes, they could release a bluray. Oh, and a complete release of Budapest will be glorious. |
| Toozeup 08.01.2012 17:16 |
Budapest is the only other show that was shot on film so it's the only realistic candidate left for a blu-ray release. Although Munich 79 was shot on 16mm I believe but I don't know if the complete show was filmed or not |
| Doga 08.01.2012 17:38 |
I read somewhere that Munich 79 was incomplete and was filmed for TV (like Wembley, Argentina, Sao Paulo...) Correct me if i'm wrong, but Queen filmed Rainbow, Montreal and Budapest, (Rainbow & Budapest in 35 mm and Montreal in 65 mm IMAX) But 16 mm tapes are far better than the Bluray HD, so they didn't have problems in transfer their old 16 mm tapes into bluray. This left us with Rainbow, Hammy 75, Earls Court, Houston, Japan 85 and Budapest for candidates for a Bluray release (along with Montreal of course). Oh, and i forget Hyde Park. And i have the doubt if they could release Hammy 79, Japan 82 and some others in HD because i don't know how were filmed. |
| brians wig 08.01.2012 18:52 |
Good God. Why does EVERYBODY seem to think that only HD or film material can be released on Bluray? It's a sodding STORAGE format. They could release bloody photographs and music in mp3 on a bluray disc if they wanted. This isn't the only thread where people have said/commented/stated this so PLEASE, somebody shoot the next dickhead who makes a comment about how they can only release something on a bluray disc if it was shot on film or in HD. Obviously these idiots don't understand what a Bluray disc is yet! Look at the recent Days Of Our Lives release. How much of that was actually shot in Standard Definition PAL or NTSC interlaced video? Answer: A LOT of it! and it was still released on a Bluray disc. The DVD video format is limited and does NOT hold the full 625lines of a PAL video recording, plus there's the issue of bitrate. With a Bluray disc, they can encode to a high bitrate mpeg2 if they wanted AND have enough room to present the full 625 horizontal resolution so that it looks EXACTLY the same quality as the master tape. Can we end this now please and everyone just accept that Bluray is a more ideal medium for presenting Standard Definition video recordings than DVD! |
| Doga 08.01.2012 19:32 |
yeah! I knew that, If they want they could release an old 8 mm amateur tape and it will be ok, but i was talking about a proper HD release. |
| MERQRY 08.01.2012 21:30 |
flu wrote: I read somewhere that Munich 79 was incomplete and was filmed for TV (like Wembley, Argentina, Sao Paulo...) Correct me if i'm wrong, but Queen filmed Rainbow, Montreal and Budapest, (Rainbow & Budapest in 35 mm and Montreal in 65 mm IMAX) But 16 mm tapes are far better than the Bluray HD, so they didn't have problems in transfer their old 16 mm tapes into bluray. This left us with Rainbow, Hammy 75, Earls Court, Houston, Japan 85 and Budapest for candidates for a Bluray release (along with Montreal of course). Oh, and i forget Hyde Park. And i have the doubt if they could release Hammy 79, Japan 82 and some others in HD because i don't know how were filmed. Rainbow wasn't shot on 35 mm but on 2" tapes... about Hyde Park many people say it was recorded on 2" tapes too and later "storaged" on 16 mm... As brian wig says even a vhs (8 mm isnt a good example cause it has till 900 lines) could be released on Blu ray BUT if we speak about TRUE FULL HD releases on Blu ray they could release Budapest 1986, some angles from Houtson 77 or even maybe some gig recorded by bob harris crew, japan 75,munich 79,etc Aparently Hammermith 75 was shot on 2" tapes too... another thing to acount for a proper TRUE FULL HD release is the audio, i always prefer a live release with GOOD audio even if it hasn't a great video... |
| rocknrolllover 08.01.2012 23:29 |
I doubt that reissue of live albums in the form of box sets, and I doubt that something will be on dvd |
| madmetaltom 09.01.2012 06:03 |
Thay can't pretend Live magic/Live killers didn't happen same as the live stuff on vhs! |
| tomchristie22 10.01.2012 17:57 |
The fact that they 'can't' won't stop them from doing so... |
| Gaabiizz 11.03.2012 11:56 |
I think with these rediciones there will be some live dvd |
| Hangman_96 12.03.2012 08:25 |
I'm hoping for some live DVD releases this year. |
| The Real Wizard 13.03.2012 01:19 |
Since they've said the live albums will be re-released this year, this is my prediction: -Live Killers expanded, with proper liner notes, and bonus tracks from Paris/London 79 -Live Magic expanded - full Knebworth -Hammersmith 75 DVD I'd be happy with that. Anything beyond that is a bonus. |
| pittrek 13.03.2012 01:30 |
My tip : Live Killers with bonus tracks from let's say Frankfurt, + 2 DVDs containing bits of Rainbow 74, Hammersmith Odeon 75, Paris, Tokyo 79 Live Killers - bonus CD with missing tracks from Knebworth, 2 DVDs with all what they have from all Magic shows including Budapest and Knebworth |
| on my way up 13.03.2012 03:37 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Since they've said the live albums will be re-released this year, this is my prediction: -Live Killers expanded, with proper liner notes, and bonus tracks from Paris/London 79 -Live Magic expanded - full Knebworth -Hammersmith 75 DVD I'd be happy with that. Anything beyond that is a bonus.Ok, that'd be pretty good but: Why not release London'79 (Hammy) on its own? That show is beyond amazing... |
| tero! 48531 13.03.2012 06:33 |
Realistically speaking, these live albums are going to get the same treatment as the studio albums. That means 5 alternate live versions of the biggest hits, and a whole lot of disappointed fans for each release. |
| MERQRY 13.03.2012 11:16 |
pittrek wrote: My tip : Live Killers with bonus tracks from let's say Frankfurt, + 2 DVDs containing bits of Rainbow 74, Hammersmith Odeon 75, Paris, Tokyo 79 Live Killers - bonus CD with missing tracks from Knebworth, 2 DVDs with all what they have from all Magic shows including Budapest and KnebworthSorry pittrek but that is too much idealist... i think the reality will be a bit different... i'd wish they released something like what bob says... or at least i'd wish that they released something, even a re-edition of the live albums with a bonus disc with only 5 live songs, like the past year would be good (better than nothing i guess) The possible reality: * Live Killers (re-re-re-mastered) + bonus disc with: -If tou can't beat them -Fat Bottomed Girls -Complete Mustapha -It's late -Whatever * Live magic (re-re-re-mastered) + bonus disc with: something similar... maybe and unedited version of Bohemian rhapsody,etc What i want: * Live Killers (remastered and remixed) + A dvd with footage from the nights recorded (paris,munich,etc), even a "compile" dvd would be good + Hammersmith 1979 dvd/bluray * Live Magic (remastered and remixed) + a dvd with compile rare footage of the whole tour, much from Knebworth 86 + Budapest 86 dvd/bluray * Hammersmith 1975 dvd with Hyde park 76 as bonus dvd |
| MERQRY 13.03.2012 11:20 |
Really i don't want too much from the Magic Tour but as they said this year is of live re-releases we will get some from that tour... |
| Bad Seed 14.03.2012 08:31 |
Don't know if anyone saw this but according to queenonline an admin has dropped a huge hint that Knebworth is to get a release sometime this year. |
| Kevinrm15 14.03.2012 11:18 |
This came from one of the mods on QOL: "I guess they're kind of caught in a quandary, they know there's loads of stuff in the archive that "could" get put out. The problem they have is that the stuff that's already been released is "off the peg" ready to go, (or needs minimal tweaking), and most of the stuff we would like to see needs at least some degree of restoration work, and that takes time and money. The best that I think we can hope for, is that we get a few previously unreleased bits that we're hoping for, dropped in between the stuff I think we ALL realise is probably coming." |
| Holly2003 14.03.2012 11:33 |
Queen today = least effort for biggest profit. |
| cmsdrums 14.03.2012 14:52 |
The quote of "the problem they have is that the stuff that's already been released is "off the peg" ready to go, (or needs minimal tweaking), and most of the stuff we would like to see needs at least some degree of restoration work, and that takes time and money" just about sums them up: - was it a "problem" to record ANATO, or Queen II or Made In Heaven?? No - it was a challenge, and a musically viable and legitimate exercise and piece of art in each instance. If they saw these as things that simply weren't worth the hassle as they'd take a bit of time then nothing would ever come out. If they'd started work when everyone started talking about these things they could have done most of it already, and (although it should never be about money for a band as rich as them) recouped a great deal of any outlay if they did it right too. I'm resigned to never seeing anything decent come out of the Queen camp again :-( |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2012 10:18 |
Hence my post on page 1. Those three releases would take minimal work on their part. Let's face it - Brian and Roger don't really care about releasing new things. They want Queen to be known 100 years from now. The material that will achieve that feat has already been released. |
| Micrówave 15.03.2012 13:46 |
The material that will achieve that feat has already been releasedSo they're gonna release it again, just in case... |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2012 17:40 |
Pretty much. That said, they did work on the documentary last year, and the complete first night at Wembley came out. Lots of new material in the bonus tracks on the remasters too. It's not like they have completely ignored the back catalogue. If and when the boxed set comes out, I guarantee, people will be complaining because it was only 10 discs and not 12. |
| Bad Seed 15.03.2012 19:25 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: This came from one of the mods on QOL: "I guess they're kind of caught in a quandary, they know there's loads of stuff in the archive that "could" get put out. The problem they have is that the stuff that's already been released is "off the peg" ready to go, (or needs minimal tweaking), and most of the stuff we would like to see needs at least some degree of restoration work, and that takes time and money. The best that I think we can hope for, is that we get a few previously unreleased bits that we're hoping for, dropped in between the stuff I think we ALL realise is probably coming."I think that it should be made clear that the above quote is from someone who has NOTHING to do with QPL. |
| tcc 15.03.2012 20:01 |
Bad Seed wrote: Don't know if anyone saw this but according to queenonline an admin has dropped a huge hint that Knebworth is to get a release sometime this year.I hope it is Knebworth 1986 and not the impending Knebworth 2012 with AL. |
| MERQRY 15.03.2012 21:30 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Pretty much. That said, they did work on the documentary last year, and the complete first night at Wembley came out. Lots of new material in the bonus tracks on the remasters too. It's not like they have completely ignored the back catalogue. If and when the boxed set comes out, I guarantee, people will be complaining because it was only 10 discs and not 12.People ALWAYS will complain... much more if that people is a Queen fan... I think a show like Hamm 79 is more representative about QUEEN -and ROCK in general- than wembley 86... but for some strange reason we have wembley about 10 times (lp,cassete,dvd,radio,tv,laser disc,cd,dvd again,cd again) and Hamm only 1/2... |
| Kevinrm15 15.03.2012 21:43 |
Just cause the quote came from no one inside QPL doesn't mean it can't be true. |
| tero! 48531 16.03.2012 00:25 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: Just cause the quote came from no one inside QPL doesn't mean it can't be true.Well it IS true, but there isn't anything we hadn't already gathered over the years by looking at the releases In the oh-so-typical, roundabout way of the writer it reads "They have stuff in the archive, but they are not willing to do the work to release it. Instead we get re-releases of the old material." |
| The Real Wizard 17.03.2012 12:28 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: Just cause the quote came from no one inside QPL doesn't mean it can't be true.So in other words, all of Queen's master tapes could be resting in a room with a strong magnetic field. I'm not part of QP and I'm suggesting it, so we shouldn't rule it out.. That kind of logic completely disregards the entire purpose of discussion, since anything including pigs flying is possible. If we're trying to gather notes about QP's thoughts on releasing archival material, it's best we stick to things they're actually saying and doing rather than comparing them to unrelated quotes from people they don't associate with. It's obvious they realize the greatest hits will be their legacy, but it's not like they have completely ignored their archives (especially last year), like I mentioned above. Compare the latest Queen remasters to the Chicago and Elton John remasters, for instance. Queen's had a lot more bonus tracks. About the same as the Rhino remasters of the Yes back catalog. Just my two cents. |
| on my way up 17.03.2012 15:26 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Agree with your thoughts but...Kevinrm15 wrote: Just cause the quote came from no one inside QPL doesn't mean it can't be true.So in other words, all of Queen's master tapes could be resting in a room with a strong magnetic field. I'm not part of QP and I'm suggesting it, so we shouldn't rule it out.. That kind of logic completely disregards the entire purpose of discussion, since anything including pigs flying is possible. If we're trying to gather notes about QP's thoughts on releasing archival material, it's best we stick to things they're actually saying and doing rather than comparing them to unrelated quotes from people they don't associate with. It's obvious they realize the greatest hits will be their legacy, but it's not like they have completely ignored their archives (especially last year), like I mentioned above. Compare the latest Queen remasters to the Chicago and Elton John remasters, for instance. Queen's had a lot more bonus tracks. About the same as the Rhino remasters of the Yes back catalog. Just my two cents. the queenonline moderator is someone who generally has great inside info:-) For example: a long time before QRM got released he hinted about it... Also, he hinted strongly that Hyde Park might get - and actually should have had by now - a release so maybe there's some truth in his words. Hyde Park (or Hamy '75) might be something new among rereleases:-) |
| Kevinrm15 17.03.2012 15:49 |
on my way up. Would you happen to have the exact quote regarding Hyde Park please? |
| mooghead 17.03.2012 16:01 |
I only ever visit this website to listen to twats. I put it to you that Freddie once sang twinkle twinkle little star dressed as elvis with an egg on his head. You cannot disprove this so it must be true and the footage will definitely be on an 'anthology' that has been spoken about for 20 years now. The onus of proof is on you.. Carry on... |
| on my way up 17.03.2012 16:23 |
Kevinrm15 wrote: on my way up. Would you happen to have the exact quote regarding Hyde Park please?I don't think I can find it again...It was quite a long time ago but from what I gathered multi track tapes in great quality DO exist (as the 2011 exhibition confirmed) and - also from what I gathered - ALL work had been done to it. It should be ready for release... |
| tomchristie22 17.03.2012 20:13 |
We're never going to get any 70's concert releases, simply because Brian would like the public to think he's never done drugs, when he's clearly stoned out of his mind in most of the early 70's shows ;) |
| rocknrolllover 23.04.2013 09:17 |
Hi, Does anybody knows what happened with reissue Live killers? Why this album still not released? Cheers! |
| MackMantilla 24.04.2013 09:34 |
Because they're gonna re-release 'On Fire at the Bowl' first.. |
| rocknrolllover 24.04.2013 09:39 |
MackMantilla wrote: Because they're gonna re-release 'On Fire at the Bowl' first.. DVD and CD: where is logic? |
| MackMantilla 24.04.2013 16:38 |
rocknrolllover wrote:there's no logic on being a queen fan..MackMantilla wrote: Because they're gonna re-release 'On Fire at the Bowl' first..DVD and CD: where is logic? |
| Hangman_96 24.04.2013 17:51 |
MackMantilla wrote:That's the point.rocknrolllover wrote:there's no logic on being a queen fan..MackMantilla wrote: Because they're gonna re-release 'On Fire at the Bowl' first..DVD and CD: where is logic? |
| rocknrolllover 25.04.2013 00:46 |
MackMantilla wrote:rocknrolllover wrote:there's no logic on being a queen fan..MackMantilla wrote: Because they're gonna re-release 'On Fire at the Bowl' first..DVD and CD: where is logic? There's no logic on being fan any music better listen to silence and own heart beat |
| dudeofqueen 25.04.2013 06:51 |
Not gonna happen; how much revenue would it generate? Bottom line is all that matters now. |
| DLCVinnuendo 25.04.2013 07:57 |
a complete box set of LK is a great release, LM, is just release the knebworth show in 2 cds, but this second is not the prioraty |
| Nitroboy 25.04.2013 09:20 |
No more Magic Tour stuff please! |
| rocknrolllover 25.04.2013 09:25 |
Nitroboy wrote: No more Magic Tour stuff please! I am agree with you. No more Hot Space Tour stuff too it's boring |
| Hangman_96 25.04.2013 09:34 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Practically speaking, everything 80's related is boring shit now.Nitroboy wrote: No more Magic Tour stuff please!I am agree with you. No more Hot Space Tour stuff too it's boring Special thanks go to the following two concerts: Milton Keynes '82 and Wembley '86. |
| rocknrolllover 25.04.2013 09:52 |
Lostman wrote:rocknrolllover wrote:Practically speaking, everything 80's related is boring shit now. Special thanks go to the following two concerts: Milton Keynes '82 and Wembley '86.Nitroboy wrote: No more Magic Tour stuff please!I am agree with you. No more Hot Space Tour stuff too it's boring Need stuff from 70's and late 70's and CD rare stuff and then they could do re-release untill the end of time |
| MackMantilla 29.04.2013 09:17 |
On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way. They played a couple of live tracks that will be included plus a great version of 'Its Late' full song with tapping etc! |
| Hangman_96 29.04.2013 09:32 |
MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way. They played a couple of live tracks that will be included plus a great version of 'Its Late' full song with tapping etc!Wow! |
| rocknrolllover 29.04.2013 09:40 |
Lostman wrote:MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way. They played a couple of live tracks that will be included plus a great version of 'Its Late' full song with tapping etc!Wow! I hope it's true |
| rocknrolllover 29.04.2013 11:46 |
MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way. They played a couple of live tracks that will be included plus a great version of 'Its Late' full song with tapping etc! Hi, I'm sorry for disturb, I would like to know when was this convention? |
| pittrek 29.04.2013 12:07 |
MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way.Really ? I heard something else. That Greg said that they are THINKING about a Live Killers box set, not that it's "on the way" |
| Hangman_96 29.04.2013 12:23 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Apparently he's talking about the recent Queen UK convention that was held a week ago.MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way. They played a couple of live tracks that will be included plus a great version of 'Its Late' full song with tapping etc!Hi, I'm sorry for disturb, I would like to know when was this convention? |
| rocknrolllover 29.04.2013 13:30 |
pittrek wrote:MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way.Really ? I heard something else. That Greg said that they are THINKING about a Live Killers box set, not that it's "on the way" Huh GB always blah blah blah and nothing more |
| mooghead 29.04.2013 14:52 |
Even if all GB said was blah blah blah, it is still a million times more interesting and informative than anything you have ever said. |
| rocknrolllover 29.04.2013 23:56 |
mooghead wrote: Even if all GB said was blah blah blah, it is still a million times more interesting and informative than anything you have ever said. Are you sure? |
| Hang On In There 01.05.2013 06:35 |
"I only ever visit this website to listen to twats. I put it to you that Freddie once sang twinkle twinkle little star dressed as elvis with an egg on his head. You cannot disprove this so it must be true and the footage will definitely be on an 'anthology' that has been spoken about for 20 years now. The onus of proof is on you.. Carry on..." this made me smile! also I agree with this: "Need stuff from 70's and late 70's" and is this really true? "On the recent Queen convention they played a great live version of 'Its Late'" I would love to hear this |
| Nitroboy 03.05.2013 07:19 |
A remastering of Live Killers and Live Magic, would be awesome. Especially if the first is accompanied by video(s) |
| The Real Wizard 03.05.2013 23:46 |
MackMantilla wrote: On the recent Queen convention it has been said that a DVD/ box set of Live Killers is on the way. They played a couple of live tracks that will be included plus a great version of 'Its Late' full song with tapping etc!Very interesting ! Did they say which show it was from? |
| brians wig 04.05.2013 03:46 |
The stuff they played were taken either from Earls Court 77, or one of the many Paris & Tokyo shows 79. Again, it was a short 35 minute video compilation. We 'were' to have had some of the 1977 USA tour stuff, but Jim Beach said "no" as he doesn't trust the convention goers not to record it and put it out on youtube. With that in mind, if anyone can point me in the direction of any of the last 4 years of Convention Archive video material that's appeared on youtube, I'd be grateful, thanks. |
| Kevinrm15 04.05.2013 11:10 |
Sir, may I ask you why Jim Beach would say no about the 77 US tour footage but yes to the Earls Court, Paris and Tokyo footage? Maybe Rhys Thomas was right about finishing up the Bob Harris doc. |
| The Real Wizard 04.05.2013 11:54 |
brians wig wrote: The stuff they played were taken either from Earls Court 77, or one of the many Paris & Tokyo shows 79. Again, it was a short 35 minute video compilation. We 'were' to have had some of the 1977 USA tour stuff, but Jim Beach said "no" as he doesn't trust the convention goers not to record it and put it out on youtube.I call bullshit. That 77-79 stuff was shown at two conventions last year and nobody put it on youtube. Their rationale for not releasing 70s stuff is that there is little market demand for it, yet they're concerned about people putting it on youtube because ... there may be demand for it ? If they release it on DVD/blu-ray, they won't have to worry about lost profits. Gheesh... |
| rocknrolllover 04.05.2013 13:01 |
The Real Wizard wrote:I hope you're rightbrians wig wrote: The stuff they played were taken either from Earls Court 77, or one of the many Paris & Tokyo shows 79. Again, it was a short 35 minute video compilation. We 'were' to have had some of the 1977 USA tour stuff, but Jim Beach said "no" as he doesn't trust the convention goers not to record it and put it out on youtube.I call bullshit. That 77-79 stuff was shown at two conventions last year and nobody put it on youtube. Their rationale for not releasing 70s stuff is that there is little market demand for it, yet they're concerned about people putting it on youtube because ... there may be demand for it ? If they release it on DVD/blu-ray, they won't have to worry about lost profits. Gheesh... |
| The Real Wizard 04.05.2013 16:12 |
Me too. Various people at QP say Rainbow 74 is in the works, and Rhys Thomas says a US 77 package is in the works. All we can do is wait. |
| Hangman_96 04.05.2013 18:56 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Me too. Various people at QP say Rainbow 74 is in the works, and Rhys Thomas says a US 77 package is in the works. All we can do is wait.All these things are really great. I hope they come out as soon as possible. |