| mickyparise 09.09.2011 20:45 |
The invitation to dinner at Freddie Mercury’s home held the promise of a fun-filled evening for his close friend, Sixties pop idol Dave Clark. Clark — leader of the chart-topping group The Dave Clark Five — had spent many a happy time at the flamboyant Queen singer’s lavishly furnished house in West London. But when he got there, Clark was greeted with shattering news. Freddie confided that he had been diagnosed with HIV — at that time, a virtual certain death sentence, as indeed it was to turn out for him. As the 20th anniversary of Freddie’s death looms — he died on November 24, 1991 — his friends have been celebrating what would have been his 65th birthday this week with an AIDS charity dinner for the Mercury Phoenix Trust at London’s Savoy Hotel, marking the start of a fund-raising year. It is a time of poignant memories for Clark, who was alone with Freddie at his bedside when he died. ‘When Freddie first told me about his illness that night, I was shocked. He didn’t seem down about it, though I’m sure it had taken him aback. In fact he looked great, he didn’t look ill, he looked very healthy. He just carried on. It was only later when it started to kick in, then it was hard. ‘Freddie confided in me a lot. When he was diagnosed there were only a handful of people who knew. 'Not even the band knew at first, and his family didn’t know. At that stage you always believe and hope there is going to be a cure, that you’re going to get well, you have to. You have to be positive.’ Freddie himself was a fan of Dave Clark, whose band was once seen as The Beatles’ biggest rivals. A kind of magic: Freddie on stage in 1986 A kind of magic: Freddie on stage in 1986 The DC5, whose hits included Glad All Over and Bits And Pieces, helped spearhead the British Invasion of America scoring 15 consecutive Top 20 hits and selling over 100?million records. Clark and Mercury had been friends since meeting in 1976 after a Queen concert in London’s Hyde Park, though they became close working together in 1985 recording the soundtrack album for Clark’s musical Time, including the title song with its poignant line ‘We’ve not spoken about it at all, the fact that time is running out for us all’. ‘Freddie had tried everything. He had special new medications flown in by Concorde from America. He said the next generation will be the ones to beat this. And the sad thing is if it had been 12 months later, he might have been OK when combination drug therapy first came in. ‘But he was getting frail and he decided to come off all the medication apart from painkillers. Freddie loved life. He lived it to the full. And towards the end, when he realised it was no longer fun, he decided to come off medication. He was suffering and sadly there was no way out’. On the evening Freddie died, Clark took over the bedside vigil from Mary Austin, Freddie’s former girlfriend and closest friend. Also in the house were his long time and loyal friend Joe Fanelli, his chef, Peter Freestone, his assistant and Jim Hutton, his lover. ‘We made everything as comfortable as we could for Freddie. His bedroom had an adjoining lounge and looked out on to his beautiful garden. He was grateful for everything and for his friends.’ Clark was alone with Freddie in the bedroom when he suddenly died. ‘The doctor had been there half an hour before and said he’s got a few more days, so we didn’t expect he would die so soon,’ says Clark. I WANTED TO DIE TOO, BY BRIAN MAY Brian May The death of Freddie Mercury brought his close friend Queen guitarist Brian May to the brink of suicide. Seriously depressed by worries about his own future, exhausted after years of touring, and unable to come to terms with the loss of Freddie, he found himself facing a complete mental and physical breakdown. In desperation, he booked himself into a clinic in Arizona, which he describes as a cross between a university, a health farm and a mental asylum. ‘I regarded myself as completely sick’, he revealed to me. ‘I was wounded and very much in pieces. I went into a serious depression. I was subsumed by feelings of loss. ‘Being in a touring band puts your friends and family on hold and you’re focused on one thing — the band. When that finishes, you’re out on a limb. The band finished, so there was a terrible feeling of loss — the band was my family. 'We lost Freddie and my Dad died at almost the same time. I didn’t want to live. I’d lost myself completely. 'I coasted along and got by somehow, but I couldn’t get myself into gear. So I had to go into this place where I was isolated and removed from my life. Gradually, the suicidal feelings went away.’ The clinic, he says, helped him unravel his emotional problems. ‘I talked about my feelings and it worked fabulously. The problem had been me. Once I started to fix me, life started to work again.’ Freddie had confided to Brian and other members of his inner circle his HIV diagnosis. ‘We lied through our teeth to protect his privacy’, says May. ‘Maybe I was in denial myself. We were all hoping a cure would be found. But we agreed we’d make life as comfortable and as private for Freddie as we could’. ‘We phoned Mary immediately. She lived just round the corner. It was unexpected otherwise she would have been there. 'She had the terrible task of phoning Freddie’s parents and sister to say he’d passed on.’ Freddie only publicly revealed his HIV/AIDS status the day before he died. Clark defends that decision. ‘Because it was so stigmatised Freddie wanted to keep it a private matter. At the time it was still looked upon as a plague.’ Raising money for AIDS charities is close to Clark’s heart. Even before he knew of Freddie’s status, he organised a benefit performance of his musical Time at London’s Dominion Theatre with Cliff Richard, the show’s star, and Freddie performing on stage together. Clark believes he had a special friendship with Freddie as Freddie knew he wanted nothing from him. Clark was a visionary in the music business, producing all the DC5 recordings and owning the rights to all his music at a time when it was unheard of. ‘It surprised me that Freddie and I became such great friends because our personalities were total opposites. But maybe I brought a bit of sanity. ‘Where we were similar was creatively. We were both perfectionists. Freddie was very much in control of his own life, of what he recorded and everything he did. He would come to me for advice. 'He could talk to me about his creative things and his businesses which he couldn’t talk to other people about because he knew I had no vested interest and I would give him an honest opinion. 'Freddie lived life to the full. He had a zest for life. He was definitely not a sad person at all. He had his crazy parties. 'And right up until the birthday before his last he decided to have an amazing dinner party at his house for his close friends and we had 30 courses created by his personal chef Joe Fanelli with a different wine for each course. ‘Freddie was larger than life and yet he was very kind and caring. The thing I really miss about him is his enthusiasm. He had an amazing sense of humour and he always made you laugh. He didn’t take life too seriously. He lifted your spirits up.’ Freddie once said, ‘I don’t expect to make old bones.’ But Clark dismisses this as the sort of off-the-cuff statement any young rock star might make. ‘He wanted to live. And if he was around now I’m sure he wouldn’t have gone to seed. He was not that type of person. He was too proud. Freddie loved taking risks, which is my philosophy too. ‘His legacy will go on for ever. His songs and his recordings are timeless. He was a creator, a revolutionary, a one-off. He would have carried on. That’s what motivated him, his work. ‘Freddie was in a lot of pain, but he never complained once. He didn’t throw any dramas. He |
| queenUSA 09.09.2011 22:25 |
It cut off before the ending ^. Here's the final 3 sentences of the interview: "He was very brave. He wasn't sad. He has so much more to give to the world." |
| jpf 10.09.2011 03:01 |
>>It is a time of poignant memories for Clark, who was alone with Freddie at his bedside when he died. Wrong. Jim and Peter asked Dave to leave Freddie's bedroom so that the two of them could change Freddie's clothes due to him having an accident. As Dave was about to exit the bedroom Freddie died. >>On the evening Freddie died, Clark took over the bedside vigil from Mary Austin, Freddie’s former girlfriend and closest friend. Wrong. Mary visited early in the day, then left. Elton came for a short visit that afternoon. >>Clark was alone with Freddie in the bedroom when he suddenly died. Wrong. |
| alaynasusan 10.09.2011 04:11 |
Holy bananas jpf, you know your stuff. By the way, what's this whole excerpt from? A documentary or something? |
| john bodega 10.09.2011 04:26 |
It's in two Freddie books that Freestone and Hutton were in the room when Freddie died. I wasn't there, so I can't say who's lying here. Maybe the journalist misinterpreted something that Clark said. |
| thomasquinn 32989 11.09.2011 14:33 |
There have been conflicting statements about that for years, with Dave Clark saying he was alone with Freddie when he died, and Peter Freestone & Jim Hutton saying they were there there, too. That part is old news. |
| The Real Wizard 11.09.2011 15:59 |
alaynasusan wrote: Holy bananas jpf, you know your stuff. ======================== I'll assume that's sarcasm :-) Jpf is probably a repressed homosexual who can't accept the fact that Freddie loved Mary (i.e. a woman) more than his gay friends, enough to give her his house. It has always been told that Dave Clark was the only person in the room with Freddie when he died, but people like jpf prefer to troll this forum and tell revisionist history from books written by friends of Freddie's who backstabbed him in death by writing so-called "tell-all" books, despite the singer's preference for a private personal life. |
| Mr Mercury 11.09.2011 16:53 |
Sir GH wrote: It has always been told that Dave Clark was the only person in the room with Freddie when he died, but people like jpf prefer to troll this forum and tell revisionist history from books written by friends of Freddie's who backstabbed him in death by writing so-called "tell-all" books, despite the singer's preference for a private personal life.And that is the problem I have with these "tell all" books. I kind of respect the fact that Mary seems to kept really quiet about her life with Freddie. |
| GratefulFan 11.09.2011 18:27 |
Oh my. What a load of crap. Mary has given scads of information relating to Freddie's private life, including but not limited to the the whole scene between the two of them when he revealed his sexuality to her, intimate details relating to the last period of his illness and pictures of the inside of his house! Do you know why she's done this? Because death changes our obligations to those that have passed away and moves them into a different phase of loyalty. It's completely normal or we would never have an honest or complete biography about anyone written by anybody! And Sir GH, you avoided my point in the other thread, but is there any particular reason you think your potentially baseless pontificating makes any more of a contribution than the creepy Kiss fan's potentially baseless pontificating? Because I'm not seeing it. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 02:46 |
Sir GH wrote: alaynasusan wrote: Holy bananas jpf, you know your stuff. ======================== I'll assume that's sarcasm :-) Jpf is probably a repressed homosexual who can't accept the fact that Freddie loved Mary (i.e. a woman) more than his gay friends, enough to give her his house. It has always been told that Dave Clark was the only person in the room with Freddie when he died, but people like jpf prefer to troll this forum and tell revisionist history from books written by friends of Freddie's who backstabbed him in death by writing so-called "tell-all" books, despite the singer's preference for a private personal life. --- Too fucking bad, asshole. Mary's a cunt. That makes you weep. Freddie was doing enough "backstabbing" of his own, enough to kill a few of his friends. Unless Mary has a penis Freddie wasn't giving her any loving. |
| john bodega 12.09.2011 03:47 |
I'm not seeing why I should trust Dave Clark any more than Hutton or Freestone. |
| john bodega 12.09.2011 03:53 |
I direct anyone currently riding a high horse on this topic, to this page here : link I'm amazed at the attitudes towards people who write 'tell-all' books, sometimes. So fucking what? Freddie's dead, he doesn't need loyalty anymore. Even Hutton is dead now, but you don't see any kind of post-mortem, wildly impractical kind of standards being applied to how we should talk about him, do you? Is this because he was a less than stellar human being? I hate to rain on the judgmental parade, but Freddie wasn't a saint - no one is. Deplorable double standards going on here - somehow, Mary Austin and Dave Clark have special dispensation to talk about Freddie's private life, but Freestone and Hutton don't. I'm assuming it's because in their case, money changed hands. What fucking difference does that make? I think Mary got a lot more money than either Freestone or Hutton did; if we want to get all moralistic about it, her only words to interviewers or press, from 1991 onwards, should've been "no comment" - but they weren't. |
| plumrach 12.09.2011 04:26 |
In Freddies lifetime he may have had a lot of friends but Mary was the one that he wanted to have the house and whether its true or not that he asked to let the others stay in there is another thing Joe Peter and Jim were taken care of financially after Freddie passed away, they were not left with nothing |
| thomasquinn 32989 12.09.2011 07:25 |
Sir GH wrote: alaynasusan wrote: Holy bananas jpf, you know your stuff. ======================== I'll assume that's sarcasm :-) Jpf is probably a repressed homosexual who can't accept the fact that Freddie loved Mary (i.e. a woman) more than his gay friends, enough to give her his house. It has always been told that Dave Clark was the only person in the room with Freddie when he died, but people like jpf prefer to troll this forum and tell revisionist history from books written by friends of Freddie's who backstabbed him in death by writing so-called "tell-all" books, despite the singer's preference for a private personal life. ======== Jpf is a moron with issues, as his last post demonstrated abundantly. However, disregarding this retard, there have been conflicting statements for almost two decades now - Hutton claimed he was there when Freddie died, Clark claimed he wasn't. We're never going to know for sure, and I for one don't feel like accepting one view and rejecting the other. There just isn't enough evidence either way. |
| thomasquinn 32989 12.09.2011 07:26 |
jpf wrote: Too fucking bad, asshole. Mary's a cunt. That makes you weep. Freddie was doing enough "backstabbing" of his own, enough to kill a few of his friends. Unless Mary has a penis Freddie wasn't giving her any loving. ====== Thank you for proving Sir GH's point. We couldn't have done it without your foul-mouthed, mentally unstable ranting. On a serious note, I quite honestly believe you could benefit from psychological counseling. This is not meant as a jab, even though that is an added benefit. |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2011 10:06 |
GratefulFan wrote: And Sir GH, you avoided my point in the other thread ================= I've responded this morning. I do have a life, and don't check forums every couple hours. :-) |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2011 10:09 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I'm assuming it's because in their case, money changed hands. What fucking difference does that make? I think Mary got a lot more money than either Freestone or Hutton did; if we want to get all moralistic about it, her only words to interviewers or press, from 1991 onwards, should've been "no comment" - but they weren't. ===================== Fair play. But one could argue that Peter and Jim should've done the same, as writing those books made them look like little more than bitter old men because they didn't get the house (Jim, particularly). The fact that Mary got more money probably reinforced the bitterness in them, leading them to feel the need to "set the record straight." I find it very unlikely that Mary went out of her way to be interviewed. Someone probably just asked, and she said sure. She didn't have anything to gain. She's the only one of the bunch of friends who comes off as genuine. Great article there on Cracked, btw. Much food for thought. |
| john bodega 12.09.2011 11:20 |
"Great article there on Cracked, btw. Much food for thought." There usually is, there's some great collections on that site! |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2011 11:29 |
Just might have to spend a few hours there then. Expanding and reassessing the mind rocks. |
| john bodega 12.09.2011 11:31 |
The thing that's on my mind is that all of these associates of Freddie's - Austin, Clark, Hutton and Freestone - have crossed a barrier, if you will, of discussing Freddie's private life. They've done it in varying degrees, but then it becomes a matter of personal opinion as to what degree is acceptable. And, as I was saying with the Cracked article - it is easy for us to made these judgements on deeds and character, separated as we are by time and distance. None of us were close personal friends with Freddie Mercury for a long portion of his life, so we'll never be able to accurately say how we'd behave in those circumstances, and thus our opinions on whether or not they were good people have to be taken at their worth... whatever that may be! |
| szore 12.09.2011 16:19 |
My understanding was that Freddie left 20 million and the house to Mary. Beyond that, I find Brian's article far more compelling. His depression and suicide thoughts, and therapy, etc. I also find these articles and the bickering post's fascinating. Just my two cents. I've been a Queen fan for 30 years, since I was 16 in 1980. I am more of a fan now than ever, and the abundance of material about Queen on this miracle called 'The Internet' is just wonderful. In any event we are all fans, so let's not bicker. |
| szore 12.09.2011 16:23 |
...Also, calling Mary a 'cunt' is utterly over the line and un-called for. You dishonor Freddie's memory by saying that. |
| Micrówave 12.09.2011 16:37 |
Sir GH wrote: Jpf is probably a repressed homosexual who can't accept the fact that Freddie loved Mary (i.e. a woman) more than his gay friends, enough to give her his house. It has always been told that Dave Clark was the only person in the room with Freddie when he died, but people like jpf prefer to troll this forum and tell revisionist history from books written by friends of Freddie's who backstabbed him in death by writing so-called "tell-all" books, despite the singer's preference for a private personal life.Hey Bob. I thought I'd post this for you in case YOU FORGOT WHAT YOU SAID!!!! Sir GH wrote: It is trolling when someone's purpose is purely to create conflict with others. In the real world, these people are expelled from schools and fired from jobs. There needs to be some kind of quality control to maintain civility at a forum. Calm down, man... Try some warm milk. |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2011 16:43 |
Err, are you sure you've got the right person? I'm calm and I was responding to conflict, not creating it. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:14 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I direct anyone currently riding a high horse on this topic, to this page here : link I'm amazed at the attitudes towards people who write 'tell-all' books, sometimes. So fucking what? Freddie's dead, he doesn't need loyalty anymore. Even Hutton is dead now, but you don't see any kind of post-mortem, wildly impractical kind of standards being applied to how we should talk about him, do you? Is this because he was a less than stellar human being? I hate to rain on the judgmental parade, but Freddie wasn't a saint - no one is. Deplorable double standards going on here - somehow, Mary Austin and Dave Clark have special dispensation to talk about Freddie's private life, but Freestone and Hutton don't. I'm assuming it's because in their case, money changed hands. What fucking difference does that make? I think Mary got a lot more money than either Freestone or Hutton did; if we want to get all moralistic about it, her only words to interviewers or press, from 1991 onwards, should've been "no comment" - but they weren't. --- Correct. As mentioned in both Peter's and Jim's books they needed to fix the errors and lies that were reported by the English rags while Freddie was alive and after his death. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:21 |
plumrach wrote: In Freddies lifetime he may have had a lot of friends but Mary was the one that he wanted to have the house and whether its true or not that he asked to let the others stay in there is another thing Joe Peter and Jim were taken care of financially after Freddie passed away, they were not left with nothing --- It was the manner in which Mary and Jim Beach treated Peter, Joe, and Jim after Freddie's death that is appalling. Freddie would have been pissed off if he knew how his friends (i.e., his true family) had been treated. Mary was left Garden Lodge due to having a child and one on the way (both conceived out of wedlock). Freddie wanted Garden Lodge to be a home where these two children could grow up. He didn't want Garden Lodge to become a Graceland. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:22 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Sir GH wrote: alaynasusan wrote: Holy bananas jpf, you know your stuff. ======================== I'll assume that's sarcasm :-) Jpf is probably a repressed homosexual who can't accept the fact that Freddie loved Mary (i.e. a woman) more than his gay friends, enough to give her his house. It has always been told that Dave Clark was the only person in the room with Freddie when he died, but people like jpf prefer to troll this forum and tell revisionist history from books written by friends of Freddie's who backstabbed him in death by writing so-called "tell-all" books, despite the singer's preference for a private personal life. ======== Jpf is a moron with issues, as his last post demonstrated abundantly. However, disregarding this retard, there have been conflicting statements for almost two decades now - Hutton claimed he was there when Freddie died, Clark claimed he wasn't. We're never going to know for sure, and I for one don't feel like accepting one view and rejecting the other. There just isn't enough evidence either way. --- Fuck you, asshole. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:23 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: jpf wrote: Too fucking bad, asshole. Mary's a cunt. That makes you weep. Freddie was doing enough "backstabbing" of his own, enough to kill a few of his friends. Unless Mary has a penis Freddie wasn't giving her any loving. ====== Thank you for proving Sir GH's point. We couldn't have done it without your foul-mouthed, mentally unstable ranting. On a serious note, I quite honestly believe you could benefit from psychological counseling. This is not meant as a jab, even though that is an added benefit. ---- Go fuck yourself. |
| szore 12.09.2011 19:28 |
STOP THIS! |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:31 |
Sir GH wrote: Zebonka12 wrote: I'm assuming it's because in their case, money changed hands. What fucking difference does that make? I think Mary got a lot more money than either Freestone or Hutton did; if we want to get all moralistic about it, her only words to interviewers or press, from 1991 onwards, should've been "no comment" - but they weren't. ===================== Fair play. But one could argue that Peter and Jim should've done the same, as writing those books made them look like little more than bitter old men because they didn't get the house (Jim, particularly). The fact that Mary got more money probably reinforced the bitterness in them, leading them to feel the need to "set the record straight." I find it very unlikely that Mary went out of her way to be interviewed. Someone probably just asked, and she said sure. She didn't have anything to gain. She's the only one of the bunch of friends who comes off as genuine. Great article there on Cracked, btw. Much food for thought. --- Peter and Jim wrote their books to correct misinformation and lies that were reported by the press and some incorrect information that came from Mary. It had nothing to do with Garden Lodge. It's time you took Freddie and Mary off of their saints pedestals. Did you even read Peter and Jim's books? Doesn't sound like it. Neither book came off as being bitter. More like major disappointment in two people in particular (Mary and Beach). Mary didn't go out of her way to be interviewed? Please. She opened up the doors to Garden Lodge and told the photographer to start shooting. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:34 |
szore wrote: ...Also, calling Mary a 'cunt' is utterly over the line and un-called for. You dishonor Freddie's memory by saying that. ---- Freddie would have called Mary a cunt, too, if he knew how she treated his three closest friends. |
| jpf 12.09.2011 19:36 |
Sir GH wrote: Err, are you sure you've got the right person? I'm calm and I was responding to conflict, not creating it. --- Bullshit. |
| The Real Wizard 12.09.2011 20:58 |
You know, some people might take you seriously if you didn't resort to childish attacks and cuss words.. |
| GratefulFan 12.09.2011 21:48 |
He gets all the serious he needs Thursday nights at the local chapter of the Misogynist-Homophobe Club. |
| jpf 13.09.2011 00:10 |
GratefulFan wrote: He gets all the serious he needs Thursday nights at the local chapter of the Misogynist-Homophobe Club. ---- You're the CEO of CuntsRUs. How's that job treating you? |
| Holly2003 13.09.2011 02:19 |
KISS SUCK! |
| plumrach 13.09.2011 02:49 |
@jpf you say mary had her children out of wedlock She was married at the time of having her children, its common knowledge if you look it up |
| jpf 13.09.2011 03:52 |
plumrach wrote: @jpf you say mary had her children out of wedlock She was married at the time of having her children, its common knowledge if you look it up ---- I believe she was not married to Piers Cameron. ---- Mary juggled looking after her son Richard and spending time with her then partner, Piers Cameron, with attending to Freddie as he suffered the final stages of AIDS. At the same time she was preparing for the birth of a second baby, Jamie, now eight. --- After her breakup with Mercury she would get involved with other men, none of these relationship last long, I guess they felt so intimidated by her closeness and history with Freddie, until she met the father of her two children a painter named Piers Cameron with whom she had two sons Richard (20) and Jamie (19) Freddie was Richard’s godfather. After her split from Cameron she lived alone with her children at the house Mercury left her in in Kensington where she share so many memories with Freddie, where she would lie in bed with him for hours even if he was sleep in his final days, he left her in charge of placing his ashes and never for no reason tell anyone where. Mary Austin got married on 1998 to a businessman named Nick Hulford in Long Island with just two guest Richard and Jamie , they live at her home with her two sons. |
| jpf 13.09.2011 03:54 |
Holly2003 wrote: KISS SUCK! ---- You know a lot about sucking. Did you get that STD treated yet? |
| Holly2003 13.09.2011 04:16 |
jpf wrote: Holly2003 wrote: KISS SUCK! ---- You know a lot about sucking. Did you get that STD treated yet? I know Kiss sucks. Then again, everyone except you knows that. Mary Austin rocks though. Comfortably, In her big house in London. |
| plumrach 13.09.2011 05:04 |
I know that she did Marry the father of her children but the marraige ended in divorce around the mid to late 90's, i will need to find that story! not that it matters much now though |
| GratefulFan 13.09.2011 07:16 |
jpf wrote: You're the CEO of CuntsRUs. How's that job treating you? =================== Great! It's good to be queen. I've just fired your mother. I'm sure not going to miss all her horrible cursing and hoarking in the boardroom I'll tell you. |
| The Real Wizard 13.09.2011 10:01 |
jpf wrote: I guess they felt so intimidated by her closeness and history blah blah blah... =============== Yay for more revisionist history. Give it up - nobody's listening. |
| Micrówave 13.09.2011 10:44 |
Kate Gosselin's long-time TLC show "Kate Plus 8" has been canceled, and she's the first to admit that the transition from reality star to regular mom isn't going to be an easy one. "I'm freaking out. Big time," she tells PEOPLE in the new issue. Her kids, twins Cara and Mady, and sextuplets Alexis, Hannah, Aaden, Collin, Leah and Joel "weren't ready," to leave the show, which has been airing since 2005, she adds. "Nobody was. I've never quit a job in my life without having something else lined up. I don't know what's next." But Gosselin, 36, whose messy divorce from husband Jon played out in the tabloids -- and on TV -- in 2009, vows to work hard to keep the lifestyle she's provided for her kids. "I told them I will work my fingers to the bone to make sure that they can stay here and go to their school," she says. "There are no guarantees in life for anyone, but they know that I'm giving it my best shot." |
| mindemoyen 13.09.2011 12:39 |
What REALLY matters is Freddie is loved, why argue who was with him when he died. Anyone who loves Freddie would want to share his life and be there to comfort him at the time of his death!!!!!!! |
| malicedoom 13.09.2011 14:34 |
Except Mary, of course. (sorry... had to...) |
| GratefulFan 13.09.2011 14:46 |
Sir GH wrote: jpf wrote: I guess they felt so intimidated by her closeness and history blah blah blah... =============== Yay for more revisionist history. Give it up - nobody's listening. ======================= I'm all for Mr. Creepy giving it up, but truthfully she said as much herself in one of those slightly gratuitous interviews you appear to swear she never gave. To me it's fairly intuitive that an enduring love with an old flame could and probably did complicate her connections with others for a period. |
| szore 13.09.2011 14:52 |
SILENCE! he roared... ...listen... link |
| GratefulFan 13.09.2011 14:52 |
Micrówave wrote: Kate Gosselin's long-time TLC show "Kate Plus 8" has been canceled, and she's the first to admit that the transition from reality star to regular mom isn't going to be an easy one. ================================ I'm not sure why this is here exactly, but I'll bite. I don't say this about many people, but that woman and her equally flaky ex husband are a cold hard stare straight down into the utterly vapid soul of one face of America. Truly depressing that she is held out as an example of anything, let alone motherhood and, formerly, wifehood. |
| szore 13.09.2011 14:58 |
Damn, dude... MEOW! |
| Chicklet 17.04.2012 16:28 |
Dave Clark has a very active imagination and pretends to be more than he was.....I know -WITHOUT A DOUBT- he was not with Freddie when he passed. The man Freddie loved Jim Hutton, and the man who care for Freddie for 13 years were the only ones with him. Clark was downstairs in the kitchen and Mary Austin had dropped by for a few minutes earlier in the day and left. She spent very,very little time with Freddie ....do no believe all these stories in which a person attempts to make themselves more involved with the wonderful man Freddie. |
| john bodega 18.04.2012 02:13 |
Elvis has the Memphis Mafia. Freddie had these clowns. It's pretty simple. While you wouldn't trust most of them as far as you could comfortably jerk them off, it's worth remembering that people like Jim were the ones sitting with Freddie while he rotted alive - we weren't. It's great for people to point the finger at how his circle behaved after he was dead, but like he said ' when I'm dead, who cares'. (I'm paraphrasing). |
| The Real Wizard 18.04.2012 22:33 |
Yet another troll who knows what happened when Mercury died, even though they weren't there. The cash-in tell-all books are clearly where the truth are. Rolling my eyes @ stupidity, yet again. |
| jozef 18.04.2012 23:59 |
Mr. TheRealWizard - you're right, you are real idiot. |
| john bodega 19.04.2012 02:37 |
"The cash-in tell-all books are clearly where the truth are" So we can't rely on the people who were actually there because they wrote books about it. Instead, we *should* listen to people who weren't there at all??? You just took those same people to task for not knowing what they were talking about! Sorry, but this makes no sense at all. |
| The Real Wizard 19.04.2012 03:21 |
Go back to page 1 ... I don't need to repeat myself. At the end of the day, none of us are qualified to say what happens in anyone's personal lives but our own. Yet there will always be self-appointed experts who think otherwise. |
| john bodega 19.04.2012 07:31 |
Aha. You don't feel that you were doing some self-appointing when you describe Mary as coming across as 'more genuine' than the others? They are a select small group of people who knew Freddie until he died. Maybe I haven't been huffing enough petrol lately but I don't see why I would trust any of them more (or less) than the other. The books were a cash in? Hello McFly! - Garden Lodge was a bigger cash in than any obscure book. To argue that accepting money renders one's testimony as being unreliable would put Mary Austin in Lobsang T Rampa territory in terms of veracity. Applying our own standards is just silly. It's as silly to accuse Hutton of cashing in as it is to say that Mary Austin is a cunt. I'd prefer to see it as being that Jim Hutton felt hard done by and fell victim to the human tendency to talk about it, whereas Mary Austin got lumped with a bigass responsibility and had to make some tough decisions. I mean, am I being unrealistic? |
| The Real Wizard 19.04.2012 12:49 |
>Aha. You don't feel that you were doing some self-appointing when you describe Mary as coming across as 'more genuine' than the others? That's just my personal interpretation. I'm not claiming to know who did what with whom when. >Garden Lodge was a bigger cash in than any obscure book. Sure, but the difference is - she didn't create the house like certain others created their books. You can't blame her for being an heir. |
| malicedoom 19.04.2012 12:58 |
Can I blame her for not allowing Jim Hutton to sit with her in the front car during Freddie's funeral? |
| john bodega 20.04.2012 01:29 |
"You can't blame her for being an heir" I consider that she inherited the bulk of the money, but Hutton inherited a situation. Right or wrong, it was obviously something he wanted to get off his chest. I'm pretty sure the book money would've come in handy later for his medical problems - honestly, I don't think it's too much to acknowledge that people react differently when a loved one kicks the bucket. 'sides which, I don't actually 'blame' Mary for anything especially. I'd happily tar her with the same brush as the others. I can't help that when I look at them all with a forgiving eye, they all come out looking bereaved and prone to odd behaviour. If I wanted to assess them harshly, I could easily find things I didn't like. |
| tcc 20.04.2012 01:35 |
I think the only one who is entitled to feel entitled to all Freddie's properties is Delilah. |
| john bodega 20.04.2012 04:44 |
Now that's one dead pussy! |
| malicedoom 20.04.2012 07:31 |
LOL - wow. |