| ZBGM0 09.08.2011 06:27 |
I just accidentally came across this blog where somebody is trying to reveal the meaning of this mysterious song. I know that many of you will say that it is stupid to guess what it was about, but still I found interpretation very interesting. I also believe that the song is not "random rhyming nonsense" like Freddie said. I also remember his mother said in interview that talking about homosexuality was some sort taboo for him and he didn’t like to talk about it, which also explains why he would never want to reveal the true meaning of the song (if this is really the true meaning of the song – we don’t know, nobody does). I am not saying this is the true meaning, but it is WORTH to read it, because in the way it makes very much sense – I am just saying it COULD be the true meaning. link |
| Djdownsy 09.08.2011 20:24 |
Look, this is nothing against you personally, but I'm not going to read this. I hate when people try to decipher what a song means, especially Bohemian Rhapsody. I'm sure a few people agree with me. Again nothing against you. Rant Over. |
| rhyeking 09.08.2011 21:09 |
I agree with Dj. Nothing personal, but I, too, don't feel the need to read this interpretation. Maybe I'm missing out on some great, enlightening revelation, but probably not. My reasons, as expressed before, are that I don't believe "Rhapsody" has a hidden deep meaning, personal to Freddie or otherwise. I feel he created a work of provocative imagery and stylized angst around a purely fictional character, and that it underestimates his skill as a songwriter when it's assumed he's writing about himself. Musically and lyrically, I think it's the next logical step after songs like "Liar," "The March Of The Black Queen" and "In The Lap Of The Gods," and nobody's trying desperately to "solve" those songs even though they cover a lot of the same ground (guilt, pain and death). |
| john bodega 10.08.2011 01:08 |
The song is about something, but he wasn't stupid enough to make it obvious. It's that simple. Every attempt to decipher it is usually hilariously muddled, and definitely not worth paying attention to. |
| GratefulFan 10.08.2011 01:14 |
rhyeking wrote: ... and that it underestimates his skill as a songwriter when it's assumed he's writing about himself. ====================== It does no such thing. Leaning towards one explanation hardly limits the possibilities of any other. |
| paulosham 10.08.2011 02:17 |
That interpretation is a load of cock |
| master marathon runner 10.08.2011 11:01 |
Oh no , not a friggin gain. Mastermarathon runner. |
| rhyeking 10.08.2011 11:53 |
GratefulFan wrote: rhyeking wrote: ... and that it underestimates his skill as a songwriter when it's assumed he's writing about himself. ====================== It does no such thing. Leaning towards one explanation hardly limits the possibilities of any other. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If Freddie created this character purely from his imagination, it speaks volumes toward his ability as a songwriter. Underestimating his skill comes from assuming the only way he could write such a moving song is by making it autobiographical. Put another way, if Freddie could objectively create a work as moving as this without casting himself as the main character, does that not represent high degree of songwriting ability? |
| malicedoom 10.08.2011 12:25 |
The song is about Buddy Holly dying. Duh. Oh wait... |
| catqueen 10.08.2011 18:19 |
hmm... the article is a bit simplistic and nothing new... lots of people feel that its about being gay/coming out. I dunno, i think the song is more complex then that. |
| catqueen 10.08.2011 18:20 |
* not that im saying coming out is not complex. i just meant that i dont think the entire song is based around that. Maybe its an influence, but there is more there, in my mind anyway. And i think the song can be made a lot more general then that. |
| Djdownsy 11.08.2011 06:30 |
malicedoom wrote: The song is about Buddy Holly dying. Duh. Oh wait... ----------------------------------- hahahahahahahahaha |
| ZBGM0 11.08.2011 12:26 |
No, I don't take it personal:) I understand your opinion and this is just one of many interpretations. But on the other side it’s even better that the real meaning was never revealed because it makes the song more mysterious and self-explained. |
| Hangman_96 12.08.2011 09:33 |
Let me tell you my opinion, I just read the first line and it's a shit. I won't read the rest. |
| Holly2003 12.08.2011 11:44 |
The analysis until the opera section makes sense, but then becomes a bit fanciful. Incidentally, to the topic starter, don't let the anti-intellectualism of the typical Queenzoner stop you posting threads like this. |
| GratefulFan 14.08.2011 19:17 |
rhyeking wrote: GratefulFan wrote: rhyeking wrote: ... and that it underestimates his skill as a songwriter when it's assumed he's writing about himself. ====================== It does no such thing. Leaning towards one explanation hardly limits the possibilities of any other. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If Freddie created this character purely from his imagination, it speaks volumes toward his ability as a songwriter. Underestimating his skill comes from assuming the only way he could write such a moving song is by making it autobiographical. Put another way, if Freddie could objectively create a work as moving as this without casting himself as the main character, does that not represent high degree of songwriting ability? =========================== Nobody has ever suggested that the only way he could write such a moving song is by making it autobiographical. Ever. Because that would be dumb. It's a bit like saying that because you believe the song was a rich fictional creation you underestimate Fred's ability to tap into his own emotion and life events to weave a well camouflaged tale of a vivid human experience. Nobody would assume you don't think him capable, they'd just assume you've come to a different conclusion. And to nobody in particular, this is the second time in recent days that a newish poster has brought this topic to the board and been pretty much spanked and/or insulted for it. A new poster would have no reason to expect it wouldn't be a good contribution that would make interesting conversation. I think people who want to bring substantial things to the board should be encouraged and welcomed, whether it's old hat for some or not. |
| ZBGM0 16.08.2011 16:14 |
I agree with GratefulFan. I really didn’t try to do anything bad, I just thought it might be interesting. If I knew the reaction I wouldn’t post it in the first place. Lostman says this’s shit…ok, maybe it is, but can’t you pick any other words like: “I disagree, I think it’s a fictional character…” And if this’s shit than at least explain why, so I will know more about it and next time I will not post such incoherent posts anymore. There is no reason for anybody being hostile. I know that we will never find out what was Freddie thinking when he was writing the song, but I believe there is nothing wrong if somebody tries to analyse the song – it will never give you the final result, but at least it’s fun. Now it looks like this fellow has done something very bad, because he was trying to understand the song (doesn’t matter if he’s wrong). At least he showed respect to the song, he probably needed quite some time to do all the research. And one more thing: it is (very) stupid to say that if Freddie was describing himself or his thoughts in Boh Rhap that this depreciates his ability of songwriting. Our greatest poet in history (from our country) also did many poesy, where he described his own life, his own dark thoughts, his disunion (being this or being something else) – he is known as the best poet of our nation… And writing poetry and lyrics for songs can be very similar sometimes. So, even if Freddie was describing himself, he wrote amazing lyric – he didn’t described his thoughts literally, but it is well coded with amazing metaphors. Somebody said that Freddie wasn’t stupid enough to make it obvious – off course he wasn’t. Even if it is about being homosexual, it is NOT obvious and will NEVER be, because he enveloped it with metaphors that are very confused and enable many different interpretations. It is impossible to conclude anything. |
| Hangman_96 16.08.2011 17:28 |
ZBGM0 wrote: I agree with GratefulFan. I really didn’t try to do anything bad, I just thought it might be interesting. If I knew the reaction I wouldn’t post it in the first place. Lostman says this’s shit…ok, maybe it is, but can’t you pick any other words like: “I disagree, I think it’s a fictional character…” And if this’s shit than at least explain why, so I will know more about it and next time I will not post such incoherent posts anymore. There is no reason for anybody being hostile. I know that we will never find out what was Freddie thinking when he was writing the song, but I believe there is nothing wrong if somebody tries to analyse the song – it will never give you the final result, but at least it’s fun. Now it looks like this fellow has done something very bad, because he was trying to understand the song (doesn’t matter if he’s wrong). At least he showed respect to the song, he probably needed quite some time to do all the research. And one more thing: it is (very) stupid to say that if Freddie was describing himself or his thoughts in Boh Rhap that this depreciates his ability of songwriting. Our greatest poet in history (from our country) also did many poesy, where he described his own life, his own dark thoughts, his disunion (being this or being something else) – he is known as the best poet of our nation… And writing poetry and lyrics for songs can be very similar sometimes. So, even if Freddie was describing himself, he wrote amazing lyric – he didn’t described his thoughts literally, but it is well coded with amazing metaphors. Somebody said that Freddie wasn’t stupid enough to make it obvious – off course he wasn’t. Even if it is about being homosexual, it is NOT obvious and will NEVER be, because he enveloped it with metaphors that are very confused and enable many different interpretations. It is impossible to conclude anything. ================================================================= I'm sorry, I just aired my opinion. Or maybe it's prohibited for me to air opinions, isn't it? "And if this’s shit than at least explain why" Well, when I looked at it I saw such words like "AIDS", "gay", etc. Can you please tell me, what the hell it was? He judges Freddie's private life and finds its references in his songs? It seems that the guy, who made this interpretation is obsessed with all these facts, right? I'm not the one who discusses Freddie's private life. I'm just listening to his music and being a very huge fan. Freddie is a hero for me, but I don't like these points when discussions lead into talking about the fact of his homosexuality. Yes, he was gay. I don't understand what do some people find such awful in this fact. I hope you understand that all. |
| ITSM 17.08.2011 02:20 |
I came across this a couple of weeks ago. It suggests that maybe Freddie Mercury was invited to the Bohemian Grove in California one summer, and that he was frightned by the the things he saw there. It also says that the We Will Rock You musical has a lot of symbols from the Illuminati. The picture of Freddie in the black and white leotard, is like he's a one of the "chessmen" on a chess board, and maybe that's why they called the band Queen (like the ones on a chess board). link |
| ZBGM0 17.08.2011 07:55 |
Lostman wrote: ZBGM0 wrote: I agree with GratefulFan. I really didn’t try to do anything bad, I just thought it might be interesting. If I knew the reaction I wouldn’t post it in the first place. Lostman says this’s shit…ok, maybe it is, but can’t you pick any other words like: “I disagree, I think it’s a fictional character…” And if this’s shit than at least explain why, so I will know more about it and next time I will not post such incoherent posts anymore. There is no reason for anybody being hostile. I know that we will never find out what was Freddie thinking when he was writing the song, but I believe there is nothing wrong if somebody tries to analyse the song – it will never give you the final result, but at least it’s fun. Now it looks like this fellow has done something very bad, because he was trying to understand the song (doesn’t matter if he’s wrong). At least he showed respect to the song, he probably needed quite some time to do all the research. And one more thing: it is (very) stupid to say that if Freddie was describing himself or his thoughts in Boh Rhap that this depreciates his ability of songwriting. Our greatest poet in history (from our country) also did many poesy, where he described his own life, his own dark thoughts, his disunion (being this or being something else) – he is known as the best poet of our nation… And writing poetry and lyrics for songs can be very similar sometimes. So, even if Freddie was describing himself, he wrote amazing lyric – he didn’t described his thoughts literally, but it is well coded with amazing metaphors. Somebody said that Freddie wasn’t stupid enough to make it obvious – off course he wasn’t. Even if it is about being homosexual, it is NOT obvious and will NEVER be, because he enveloped it with metaphors that are very confused and enable many different interpretations. It is impossible to conclude anything. ================================================================= I'm sorry, I just aired my opinion. Or maybe it's prohibited for me to air opinions, isn't it? "And if this’s shit than at least explain why" Well, when I looked at it I saw such words like "AIDS", "gay", etc. Can you please tell me, what the hell it was? He judges Freddie's private life and finds its references in his songs? It seems that the guy, who made this interpretation is obsessed with all these facts, right? I'm not the one who discusses Freddie's private life. I'm just listening to his music and being a very huge fan. Freddie is a hero for me, but I don't like these points when discussions lead into talking about the fact of his homosexuality. Yes, he was gay. I don't understand what do some people find such awful in this fact. I hope you understand that all. I understand you very well. I also hate when people judge him because he was what he was and I also don’t care abut his personal life, but I don’t think this fellow (who made interpretation) judged Freddie’s private life, he just probably couldn’t think any other explanation, probably because it was written in 1975 which was a turning point in Freddie’s personal life – this was exactly the year when Freddie was realizing what he really is. Freddie is also my hero but even if he was describing himself in this song I don’t really care, this doesn’t change anything, nothing at all. Nothing changes the fact that he was the greatest frontman and best vocalist of popular music, and the fact is all I care. Again: I didn’t know this is not a good topic for this forum. |
| GratefulFan 17.08.2011 08:48 |
ZBGM0 wrote: Again: I didn’t know this is not a good topic for this forum. ================================== Don't have time for more just now, but wanted to say it's a perfectly fine topic for this forum. As Holly2003 pointed out to you, don't let a limited response from a handful of people dissuade you from bringing up whatever interests you. A contentious topic is not always the most comfortable thing, but often produces some of the most worthwhile conversation. |
| Hangman_96 17.08.2011 10:48 |
ZBGM0 wrote: I understand you very well. I also hate when people judge him because he was what he was and I also don’t care abut his personal life, but I don’t think this fellow (who made interpretation) judged Freddie’s private life, he just probably couldn’t think any other explanation, probably because it was written in 1975 which was a turning point in Freddie’s personal life – this was exactly the year when Freddie was realizing what he really is. Freddie is also my hero but even if he was describing himself in this song I don’t really care, this doesn’t change anything, nothing at all. Nothing changes the fact that he was the greatest frontman and best vocalist of popular music, and the fact is all I care. Again: I didn’t know this is not a good topic for this forum. =================================================================================== I didn't say it's not a good topic for this forum. It's a good topic because it gives our forum a life of discussion. You mustn't listen to me, nor to other people. We're just users and all we do is air our opinions. This is your own deal and you can create topics whichever you like. Again, I'm not a moderator. Do it for your own good. |
| GratefulFan 17.08.2011 18:06 |
Lostman wrote: I'm sorry, I just aired my opinion. Or maybe it's prohibited for me to air opinions, isn't it? "And if this’s shit than at least explain why" Well, when I looked at it I saw such words like "AIDS", "gay", etc. Can you please tell me, what the hell it was? He judges Freddie's private life and finds its references in his songs? It seems that the guy, who made this interpretation is obsessed with all these facts, right? I'm not the one who discusses Freddie's private life. I'm just listening to his music and being a very huge fan. Freddie is a hero for me, but I don't like these points when discussions lead into talking about the fact of his homosexuality. Yes, he was gay. I don't understand what do some people find such awful in this fact. I hope you understand that all. ============================== Once again, I'll point out that people only seem to get in a tizzy about Fred's 'private life'. The fundamental fact that he was 1) gay and 2) a victim of a terrible disease are about as probing as noting that Brian is straight, was married to one woman and is now married to another one instead. All things which Brian has written and sung about, and all things which have miraculously been noted and discussed at an equally superficial level without people flipping out about Brian's 'private life'. The people in the moral panic about Fred's 'privacy' about something as common and inoffensive as homosexuality, and something as crushing and relevant as AIDS, are the ones that have the gay issues as far as I can tell. |
| QueenzonerBuddy 18.08.2011 00:15 |
This so-called interesting interpretation, nothing more than to show that Freddie encoded in the song the story of his homosexuality, and how he became gay. why Bohemian Rhapsody became key for research? Freddie never publicly admitted his homosexuality, instead, according to researchers, he decided to tell about this in song of millennium. Is this not nonsense? |
| GratefulFan 31.08.2011 18:12 |
Something caught my ear when I was listening to my recording of the recent Absolute Radio special. It may be mildly interesting in an unconsciously revealing king of way, or it may be absurdly tenuous, but I thought I'd mention it. Most of us will recall Freddie characterizing himself in an interview as "a man of extremes". In the recent radio doc he is heard describing Bo Rhap as "a song of extremes". A quick search through a pdf version of 'In His Own Words' that I have seems to possibly indicate that the only on the record use of that phrase relates to himself, that song, and ANTAO as a whole. Telling? Maybe not. Interesting? I think so. :) |