| KJ 21.07.2011 06:51 |
I was watching Queen Rock Montreal with audio commentary of Brian and Roger. Before Keep yourself alive starts, they play a small piece that according to Brian and Roger was at sometime recorded in the studio as a track called Sexshow. You can also hear Freddie say Sexshow right before KYA starts. Does a recording of this song exist somewhere? |
| Mr Prime Jive 21.07.2011 09:01 |
...ended as Backchat ! |
| rhyeking 21.07.2011 09:59 |
Yes, it probably still exists in the vault, dating from the same sessions that gave us "Feel Like," "Under Pressure," "Cool Cat" and "Soul Brother." It's one of those tracks that gets discussed on these threads covering unreleased stuff and sadly, we don't know much more about it than what Brian and Roger talk about on that commentary. However, what we do know and have heard of the song is more substantial than some reported outtakes, where all we get is a song title ("Friends In Pain," for example, which I'm not entirely convinced ever existed) or claims that an existing song dates from an earlier session ("Heaven For Everyone" being from the Magic sessions). It would have been nice to hear this track on the Hot Space Bonus EP. Oh well. |
| GinjaNinja 21.07.2011 10:11 |
Some of it reminds me of "You Don't Fool Me". |
| Bad Seed 21.07.2011 10:51 |
I honesly think Brian just made that up on the spot. Does anyone honestly hear Freddie say 'sex show'? The word 'sex' is maybe in there, but he certainly does not say 'sex show' to my ears. |
| rhyeking 21.07.2011 11:23 |
He clearly says "Sex Show!" at the end, just as they transition into KYA. |
| emrabt 21.07.2011 11:26 |
I honesly think Brian just made that up on the spot. Does anyone honestly hear Freddie say 'sex show'? The word 'sex' is maybe in there, but he certainly does not say 'sex show' to my ears. ======================== Before hearing the commentary, I assumed he said a lower little bit lower bah be bah bah bah you're sexual, but after hearing the commentary SEX SHOW also fits. Seeing as this turned into back chat I think its safe to assume “sex show” is the real title the band gave the jam whilst working on it. |
| c-lebrity94 21.07.2011 11:51 |
He sang My bad bad bad bad sex show |
| rhyeking 21.07.2011 11:51 |
I haven't listened to that commentary lately, but don't recall it being said that "Sex Show" became "Back Chat." If I remember correctly, Brian says "Sex Show" was a Freddie-penned track. We know "Back Chat" was a John song, so forgive me for wondering if we're just assuming it transformed in BC because of the funky similarities and the period they both were written in. Or do we have a definite confirmation on this? |
| emrabt 21.07.2011 12:54 |
so forgive me for wondering if we're just assuming it transformed in BC because of the funky similarities and the period they both were written in. Or do we have a definite confirmation on this? ============== Like all my posts it's half remembered facts filled in with guess work and stuff i just make up, double check everything I write with someone who know what they are talking about. The opening sounds just like back chat, and by that i mean you can sing the lyrics from back chat to it. |
| Rick 21.07.2011 13:45 |
The Mobile Vision version translates it as 'a fast fast fast faster John' :D |
| Montreux 21.07.2011 17:48 |
Freddie doesn't sing "Sex show" there, he sings "Sex on the beach". |
| IanR 21.07.2011 22:15 |
A reliable source (Penetration Guru) said that he recalled reading a magazine interview with Roger, in which Taylor claimed that 'Heaven For Everyone' was originally written for Joan Armatrading; upon her rejection of the song, Roger apparently called her a bitch! Since she performs incidental vocals on 'Don't Lose Your Head', this supports the notion that HFE dates to circa ~1986. However, whether it was ever subsequently or previously intended as a Queen or Highlander related project is another kettle of fish altogether... |
| rhyeking 21.07.2011 23:23 |
I wasn't saying HFE was not from the Magic era, I was saying that with "Sex Show" we have a sampling of the song live, a direct quote from Brian while listening to the clip and a date from that performance, from which we can reasonably infer a few extra details, such as the sessions it was likely recorded during. Comparatively, we haven't heard a clip of HFE predating the The Cross sessions, let alone a Queen or Roger demo. I'd like to read the quote about Joan Armatrading and in the meantime I do believe the quote exists and believe Roger wrote the song around that time, though probably not intending it for Queen (by Roger's account, Freddie heard Roger's Cross version and wanted to sing it himself, which implies that Freddie hadn't heard it before 1987). Armatrading appears on Roger's "Don't Lose Your Head," so that connection is viable indeed. That's all we know and can reasonably assume. Basically, we know more about "Sex Show" than we do about some other outtakes and demos. |
| KJ 22.07.2011 09:30 |
Perhaps Queen Productions has a suprise in store for us after all the re-issues are released? An album that features completed songs including Sexshow. Maybe those Queen + Michael Jackson tracks will also feature on it. Oh well..who am I kidding. |
| catqueen 22.07.2011 11:57 |
Bad Seed wrote: I honesly think Brian just made that up on the spot. Does anyone honestly hear Freddie say 'sex show'? The word 'sex' is maybe in there, but he certainly does not say 'sex show' to my ears. It does sound like 'sex show' to me (at least after hearing the commentary i could hear it lol)... I always wondered about it, because it didn't seem to really make sense in the context of the song, but i don't see why Brian would have just made it up. I mean it would be a bit random to just make up an addition to a song... |
| catqueen 22.07.2011 11:59 |
rhyeking wrote: I haven't listened to that commentary lately, but don't recall it being said that "Sex Show" became "Back Chat." If I remember correctly, Brian says "Sex Show" was a Freddie-penned track. We know "Back Chat" was a John song, so forgive me for wondering if we're just assuming it transformed in BC because of the funky similarities and the period they both were written in. Or do we have a definite confirmation on this? Its ages since i listened to the commentary (or the Montreal dvd) but from what i remember, Brian said that the song was supposed to be called Sex Show, but it didn't in the end. I think he said that they changed it, or that there would have been more had it been called sex show or something. |
| Thistle 22.07.2011 14:43 |
It sounds pretty much like he sang bad bad sexshow in Montreal to me, as suggested by another poster. Having never bothered with the commentary, I always thought that this line sounded silly, so it makes a bit of sense now. Just wondering where "wooly hat" (another alternate title for Backchat?) came from, then...is that just a made-up-by-a-fan title for the demo that surfaced from the HS sessions, or did it have multiple working titles? |
| Djdownsy 22.07.2011 15:49 |
Just wondering where "wooly hat" (another alternate title for Backchat?) came from, then...is that just a made-up-by-a-fan title for the demo that surfaced from the HS sessions, or did it have multiple working titles? ------------------------------------------------------- No, Greg Brooks confirmed 'Whooly Hat' was the working title name for BC at a Convention. |
| Thistle 22.07.2011 16:59 |
Djdownsy wrote: No, Greg Brooks confirmed 'Whooly Hat' was the working title name for BC at a Convention. ============================================================================================= Cheers! |
| Bo Alex 22.07.2011 23:21 |
IMHO, Brian is just talking bollocks. We all know we can't trust in his memory. That pre KYA jam is just an early outtake of Back Chat. It's the same melody, for God's sake!! Just listen to the guitar in Montreal and compare it to the vocal line in Back Chat. |
| emrabt 23.07.2011 01:47 |
IMHO, Brian is just talking bollocks. We all know we can't trust in his memory. That pre KYA jam is just an early outtake of Back Chat. It's the same melody, for God's sake!! Just listen to the guitar in Montreal and compare it to the vocal line in Back Chat. ================== I hate to break it to you, but that means he was telling the truth, the thing called "SEX SHOW" WAS worked on in the studio. |
| Bo Alex 23.07.2011 09:37 |
emrabt wrote: IMHO, Brian is just talking bollocks. We all know we can't trust in his memory. That pre KYA jam is just an early outtake of Back Chat. It's the same melody, for God's sake!! Just listen to the guitar in Montreal and compare it to the vocal line in Back Chat. ================== I hate to break it to you, but that means he was telling the truth, the thing called "SEX SHOW" WAS worked on in the studio. ====================== Probably yes, it was a working title for Back Chat, not another song. But in any case it was a John's song, not a Freddie's one. |