| e-man 07.07.2011 04:33 |
I just read an old fan club mag from 93, where Roger writes: "This is Roger writing on behalf of myself and John. We are in the studio finishing (or starting to refinish) the Queen album. We have started work without Brian because of uncertainty regarding his future commitment. He is on tour in North America. We expect some involvment from him in the new year...." He then goes on mentioning the Cowdray Ruins gig which he and John did. anyways, it struck me; Brian has gone on record saying he came in late on the MIH project, and made them start from scratch. thus; there must be versions of these songs in the vault which were worked on by John and Roger but without Brian's input? sounds like superb bonus tracks to me!!!! what do you reckon? also; reading this - it's strange to think that at one point in the early 90s, Roger and JOHN were the driving force of Queen... |
| Dane 07.07.2011 05:41 |
Which unfortunatly also means Brian does not feel these to be worthy of release.. so don't count on them being included in the 2011 Remaster. :( They should do some kind of competition.. The winner gets to spend one day in the vault listening to anything he/she would like!!!!! I'd kill to get that chance! (kill animals... in a humane way that is.. please dont get me wrong Bri!) "reading this - it's strange to think that at one point in the early 90s, Roger and JOHN were the driving force of Queen... " Keep in mind that back then Brian was working hard on making it on his own. If his solo-career would have elevated him to solo-stardom it is highly questionable if Queen would ever have been continued at all. Too bad for him (he really did deserve it) and good for us that never really happened. |
| Sebastian 07.07.2011 07:04 |
It'd be nice to have the Mercury versions too. A Winter's Tale, the bare bones of You Don't Fool Me, Mother Love 1991 take(s). |
| Martin Packer 07.07.2011 09:25 |
@Sebastian I agree - but it'd probably be quite depressing, too. Martin |
| rhyeking 07.07.2011 10:36 |
Is there an exact date to that quote from 1993? Did Roger date the letter? What's the date on that issue of the fan club mag? I'm curious to pin down a bit more precisely when it was Roger & John before Brian got involved on Made In Heaven. I can speculate that if the letter was in a 1993 issue, it was probably written either between February and April (the 1st leg of the North American Tour) or October (the 2nd leg), as Brian was in North America at those times that year. And yes, those early experiments would be interesting to hear. I disagree that Brian might not want them heard now. I can understand him feeling they were maybe going in the wrong direction or wrong sound for the actual album, but now, for the purpose of the Deluxe Editions, as demos and outtakes, they are perfectly suited. I guess we'll wait and see. |
| malicedoom 07.07.2011 10:49 |
Interesting thought, but do you think that stuff is even around anywhere? I wonder if any of that '93 stuff was even saved to begin with... |
| Sebastian 07.07.2011 11:21 |
If what John and Roger did was so 'wrong' as Brian said, he'd be delighted to get those recordings released in order to have fans saying 'ohhhhhhhhhh, Brian-less versions were crap, but with him they're great - Brian, please, fertilise me!!!!!!!!!' |
| dbruce 07.07.2011 12:09 |
It would be interesting if Roger and John were working on a completely different set of songs? There are quite a few unreleased Roger/John tracks from 88-91 so I wouldn't be surprised if some of those were being considered for the album rather than revisiting the tracks from Mr Bad Guy, for instance? |
| Kuijpy 07.07.2011 13:10 |
Haha what do you think? I think there gonna be 5 tracks on it: - Its a beautiful day (single) - Heaven for everyone (single) - No one but you - Made in heaven (Instrumental) - I was born to love you (2005 mix) Do you really think that Queen put some rare songs on it? |
| rhyeking 07.07.2011 13:55 |
I'd love either (or all!) the instrumental versions of "Let Me Live," "My Life Has Been Saved" and "Too Much Love Will Kill You" on the Deluxe Editions. |
| Dr Zoidberg 07.07.2011 16:56 |
Sebastian wrote: If what John and Roger did was so 'wrong' as Brian said, he'd be delighted to get those recordings released in order to have fans saying 'ohhhhhhhhhh, Brian-less versions were crap, but with him they're great - Brian, please, fertilise me!!!!!!!!!' -------------------------------------------------------------------- Well that seems a bit uncharitable. |
| dysan 07.07.2011 16:57 |
Arguing about the bonus tracks on ANATO = quite right Arguing about the bonus tracks on MIH = LOL Although that said, I'm the guy who says he loves Live Magic. :o( |
| Rick 07.07.2011 16:58 |
I bet that was the moment when John had second thoughts about his position in the band. Brian's bloody ego again. A shame really. Especially when Brian didn't even mention John's name during the MIH part in the Days of Our Lives Documentary. That's why I hope John will do an exclusive, thorough interview with the BBC at some point. He probably never will, but still. He always seemed the most honest band member. |
| deleted user 07.07.2011 17:09 |
- I was born to love you (2005 mix) which one is this version?? |
| rhyeking 07.07.2011 17:42 |
There was a 2005 video, but the only alternate mixes consists of: Karaoke Mix (basically an instrumental version) LP Edit (slightly pared down from the full version) Promo Edit (from a Canadian Promo single) The Film version (from MIH: The Films) has some sound effects, but they aren't really part of the song (it's a film, technically, not a music video). |
| N0_Camping4U 07.07.2011 21:16 |
I always wondered if Freddie had actually helped in the process of the album making, more than just vocals? |
| rhyeking 07.07.2011 22:31 |
Rick wrote: I bet that was the moment when John had second thoughts about his position in the band. Brian's bloody ego again. A shame really. Especially when Brian didn't even mention John's name during the MIH part in the Days of Our Lives Documentary. That's why I hope John will do an exclusive, thorough interview with the BBC at some point. He probably never will, but still. He always seemed the most honest band member. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Well, to be fair, Brian might well have mentioned John, but the filmmakers may not have included it. There was probably hours and hours of footage. Myself, I think the documentary ought to have been 3 parts, not just 2, given the ending (in my opinion) seemed a bit rushed. Heck, a 4-parter would have been ideal, one part per decade (it IS their 40th Anniversary, after all) and cover their solo careers as well. If there's a DVD/BR release, I hope they include extended interviews and such. |
| Sebastian 07.07.2011 22:34 |
> I always wondered if Freddie had actually helped in the process of the album making, more than just vocals? Just some synths and, of course, being a major writer of all those songs. |
| rhyeking 07.07.2011 23:02 |
I wonder if he selected any of the songs to be revisited, like his Mr. Bad Guy tracks or "Heaven For Everyone." Did he say to them, "I'm probably not going to get a full album out at this stage, so if you need, redo some solo tracks"? Also, I wonder if it they considered having Brian and Roger sing a song or two themselves to round out the album. It's not like they weren't both doing solo stuff at the time. Don't get me wrong, I love Made In Heaven as it is, but given how the album came about, the possibilities were many. |
| Back2TheLight 08.07.2011 04:09 |
MIH is kid of the dark horse as far as Queen records are concerned, in which we really don't know much about, and sadly probably never will. There's gotta be at least another couple of Freddie's vocal tracks somewhere that were never used. Will they ever be heard? Nah probably not...but even David Richards confirmed that they recorded four or five songs AFTER Innuendo...As much as Freddie wanted to record, and the amount of time they spent in the studio...there's no way only 2 or 3 songs were the only result...if they just put some instrumentals and remixes, it would truly be a shame. Demos such as 'Let Me Live' and things like that would be cool. But just some of the edits and remixes? Would be an absolute disgrace to this great seamless product. |
| Djdownsy 08.07.2011 06:04 |
The demo 'Another Little Piece Of My Heart' would be the best inclusion ever. :D |
| Sebastian 08.07.2011 07:16 |
Rhyeking: According to what was written in FC Mags at the time, the initial idea was using the (apparently four) post-Innuendo recordings plus material sung by Brian and Roger and the original Too Much Love Will Kill You to complete the album. At some point they may have realised it had far more commercial value if they had Freddie singing lead on all the tracks, and that's how the recycling process began. The whole thing about revisiting Mr Bad Guy tracks was suggested by a fan via letter to the FC mag, but I can't assure if that's what drove them to do that or if they were already doing it. |
| Togg 08.07.2011 08:44 |
As far as the unfinished tracks that Roger and John worked on are concerned they will (if they still excist) largely be without guitar or at least much, so I highly doubt they will ever be included as bonus tracks unless they were old takes with the full band. One has to assume Roger and John ended up being in agreement with Brian or I doubt the album would have ever been released. It would be nice to hear what state they ended up in before Brian got to work but I doubt even Roger and John envisaged putting it out without Brian adding his parts. |
| dysan 08.07.2011 09:14 |
It's pretty clear that, like the IABD demo that appeared on The Game deluxe, if there was full 'early' versions of material they would be attached to the albums that produced them. Much tidier and convenient as an archival project especially when MIH is far from a bona fide Queen album. I think we'll be given remixes and 'original' versions such as The Cross HFE and Freddie tracks. |
| malicedoom 08.07.2011 09:55 |
I always assumed the songs I Was Born To Love You and Made In Heaven were held off from The Freddie Mercury Album / The Great Pretender releases because they had always planned on remixing and including them on the final Queen album. Has this ever been 'confirmed' by anyone? |
| rhyeking 08.07.2011 12:02 |
Sebastian wrote: Rhyeking: According to what was written in FC Mags at the time, the initial idea was using the (apparently four) post-Innuendo recordings plus material sung by Brian and Roger and the original Too Much Love Will Kill You to complete the album. At some point they may have realised it had far more commercial value if they had Freddie singing lead on all the tracks, and that's how the recycling process began. The whole thing about revisiting Mr Bad Guy tracks was suggested by a fan via letter to the FC mag, but I can't assure if that's what drove them to do that or if they were already doing it. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Very interesting. That there were four post-Innuendo tracks seems to be a recurring fact when Queen and their personnel (David Richards, etc) discuss Freddie's final recordings. Yet, what we're presented seems to only include three. Here I note only Freddie's recorded material. It's A Beautiful Day (recorded April 1980) Made In Heaven (recorded May or June 1984) Let Me Live (recorded between August 1983 and January 1984) Mother Love (recorded 1991) My Life Has Been Saved (recorded 1988) I Was Born To Love You (recorded May 25th, 1984) Heaven For Everyone (recorded between June and September 1987) Too Much Love Will Kill You (recorded 1988) You Don't Fool Me (recorded 1991) A Winter's Tale (recorded 1991) (Sorry if that seems redundant, but I like to step back and look at the big picture, in case I notice something I overlooked before). Lately, I've begun wondering if, perhaps, the vocal "scraps" that David Richards built into "You Don't Fool Me" were possibly intended for two or more other songs. I'm not basing this theory on anything other than a hunch, but given that Brian has said there was really no song there until Richards put it together, it's possible he took pieces from several incomplete songs in order to make this complete one. It might account for the missing "fourth" song. I could be entirely wrong, too. |
| emrabt 08.07.2011 12:13 |
Lately, I've begun wondering if, perhaps, the vocal "scraps" that David Richards built into "You Don't Fool Me" were possibly intended for two or more other songs ==================== Or the middle part of mother love. |
| Sebastian 08.07.2011 12:20 |
It also could be possible that there were five or six songs, and the famous foursome didn't include YDFM (which was initially not even a song, probably) or AWT (which may have been begun in 1990). Now, maybe the other two (or even three!) tracks were deemed unusable, or at least it was far easier and better to rescue, recycle, revisit, etc. than to try to You Don't Fool Me those ones. (hey, I coined a new verb!). Speaking of which, You Don't Fool Me, ironically, fooled a lot of people into believing it was from HS sessions, or that it was a full song back in '91. |
| rhyeking 08.07.2011 13:33 |
That it sounds like a full, complete song in it's finished state is a testimony to David Richards, by all accounts. It would be a lot of of detail work, taking the "scraps" and editing, mixing and moving them around in order to get something like a finished vocal for the other three guys to record the backing for. By their own admission, Richards had done the hard work of making something out of nothing and they just followed his blueprint, recording their parts. All this is by way of saying that DR might have taken partial verses from two, three or four (!) incomplete song sources and cleverly cut them together: Half a line from this recording, a full verse from that recording, some scat (edited together to fit the meter) from this other demo, etc., etc, repeat the "chorus" a few times....voila! New Queen song! Maybe...just maybe... |
| Sebastian 08.07.2011 15:27 |
Yes, it's very likely that it happens as you describe it. Have you noticed that the recurring progression is (functionally) the same as Living On My Own's? I doubt it was accidental... whom should we credit for the chord progression: the person who wrote it (although that particular progression is so clichéd it's been used in literally hundreds of songs) or the person who sampled it? When I reform my web (again!) I'll add more details on that era. |
| N0_Camping4U 08.07.2011 18:18 |
Interesting stuff in this topic... |
| Pim Derks 09.07.2011 05:03 |
I can understand why Brian and Roger would not want to talk in-depth about the recording of MiH. However, if there's one album that deserves a "Classic Albums"-kind of documentary, it's this one IMO. I don't think there's any other album like it. Sure, there are some Hendrix-albums which were edited together, the 'new' Beatle-tracks on Anthology etc. But a whole album, compiled by the rest of the band after the leadsinger passed away? |
| 4 x Vision 09.07.2011 08:24 |
In my opinion YDFL is one of the worst songs in Queen's catalogues imo. As for the MIH album, I'd also be interested in rog and johns efforts before Bri got on board and over produced nearly every song. I love the album, but songs like IWBTLY, MLHBS, MIH and ML could/should have been far simpler and maybe more accesible to non Queen fans... maybe that's how Rog and John wanted them? Brian had these songs sounding like Good Company on steroids. Again though.... YOU DON'T FOOL ME IS AWFUL. Good topic. |
| emrabt 09.07.2011 08:35 |
a whole album, compiled by the rest of the band after the leadsinger passed away? ================================== It's been done to death, from memory: Eva Cassidy died before she became famous, with 11 of her 12 albums coming out after death, all with new material. Hendrix had 6 or 7 Posthumous albums of new stuff, the most recent being last year. TUPAC has had a few, and Michael Jackson had one out last year. Queen probably did it best, with everything sounding finished and all the tracks having a theme, the others are like a jumble of songs with clashing styles. |
| 4 x Vision 09.07.2011 09:06 |
emrabt wrote: It's been done to death: He he, that intentional? |
| john bodega 09.07.2011 22:13 |
It doesn't cross anyone's mind that what Roger and John did without Brian was a mess in the first place. Judging by their solo output up to that time, I'd trust Brian's instinct on music more than I'd trust Roger's. Or it could be that the work was alright, but Brian simply didn't want to be left out. Maybe he was busy being a solo guy, or maybe it was a bit upsetting a project to be working on - there are a lot of ifs and maybes here. I can tell you that working on music that relates to the sort-of-recently-deceased can be very grueling, and I wouldn't blame him for not being in a rush to do it. |
| rhyeking 09.07.2011 23:10 |
Brian's gone on record as saying that finishing "Back To The Light" and touring it was his self-prescribed therapy after Freddie died, his marriage broke up and his dad died. He's also said that going back to Queen and leaving his new-found identity as a solo artist was difficult, but he did it because he'd promised Freddie. After Made In Heaven, he pretty much started on Heroes, doing collaborations and whatever projects came to him. The mid-to-late '90s (really the entire '90s) were prolific for Brian in terms of solo recordings and guest appearances. |
| Pim Derks 10.07.2011 03:39 |
emrabt wrote: Eva Cassidy died before she became famous, with 11 of her 12 albums coming out after death, all with new material. Hendrix had 6 or 7 Posthumous albums of new stuff, the most recent being last year. TUPAC has had a few, and Michael Jackson had one out last year yes, but these were made by producers, not by remaining bandmembers. |
| Rick 10.07.2011 03:40 |
4 x Vision wrote: In my opinion YDFL is one of the worst songs in Queen's catalogues imo. As for the MIH album, I'd also be interested in rog and johns efforts before Bri got on board and over produced nearly every song. I love the album, but songs like IWBTLY, MLHBS, MIH and ML could/should have been far simpler and maybe more accesible to non Queen fans... maybe that's how Rog and John wanted them? Brian had these songs sounding like Good Company on steroids. Again though.... YOU DON'T FOOL ME IS AWFUL. Good topic. ==== The song is definitely not their best, though Brian's guitar solo, which is incredible, compensates it a bit, doesn't it? |
| Sebastian 10.07.2011 06:48 |
> yes, but these were made by producers, not by remaining bandmembers. Because those were solo artists to begin with. And BTW, MIH was LARGELY made by producers too. |
| emrabt 10.07.2011 06:58 |
yes, but these were made by producers, not by remaining bandmembers. ============================================== Some of the Jimi hendrix stuff was, by members of "the experiance" and his session band, also the traveling wilburys. |
| malicedoom 11.07.2011 13:02 |
For me, there's not much I DON'T like on Made In Heaven, though I can certainly see how some would consider it 'over-produced'. I prefer the original version of My Life Has Been Saved (with Freddie's extra line, Brian's guitar intro and especially Freddie's spoken words at the end) and thought, while touching, the whole 'tribute' pasted in at the end of Mother Love was a bit much (and I'm being nice --- A baby crying? Really???) |
| necroscope 12.07.2011 08:05 |
I would really love to hear the original versionof "Let Me Live" with Rod Stewart vocals. |
| FriedChicken 12.07.2011 08:12 |
We know Rod and Queen worked together somewhere around 1983. But was it really confirmed they did an early version of Let me Live? As far as I know, it's mostly rumours.. |
| Holly2003 12.07.2011 08:57 |
One of the more annoying things about MIH is, well, the references to Heaven. It's possible to do a tribute without being so cloyingly sentimental and without resorting to such obvious cheesy symbolism. AC/DC's Back in Black is a good example of a tribute done well. MIH is just too sickly sweet. It doesn't help that one of the more annoying Hallmark Queen songs is on it -- Too Much Love Will Kill You. Ugh. |
| Sebastian 12.07.2011 11:05 |
> As far as I know, it's mostly rumours.. No, it's not. It's been confirmed by Dr Wig on a 95 (or 96) FC Mag. |
| rhyeking 12.07.2011 12:50 |
In many ways, and I'm not talking about him dying, Freddie himself set the tone for would become MIH. The two wholly original songs we've identified, "'A Winter's Tale" and "Mother Love" carry a great emotional weight. If what Seb said earlier, that the band (including Freddie) had agreed to employ "Too Much Love Will Kill You," is correct, then the foundation was set by 1991 for the direction this album would take, including its themes (hope and struggle in the face what is overwhelming). Looking at what we know is in the vault, setting aside B-sides and Solo tracks that didn't start as Queen songs, here's what they could've used: Silver Salmon Polar Bear Feelings Hangman Feelings, Feelings It's A Beautiful Day Sandbox (Instrumental) Sex Show There Must Be More To Life Than This Take Another Piece Of My Heart Man-Man Paradise Love Kills Let Me In (Your Heart Again) I Guess We're Falling Out Too Much Love Will Kill You Face It Alone Dog With A Bone Robbery Self-Made Man My Secret Fantasy Assassin Some of the early ones likely don't exist in multi-track form, which would make it difficult (impossible?) to properly isolate the vocals. Others are far from complete in terms of a finished vocal by Freddie. One solution would be to complete these songs with Brian and Roger on vocals, but how much of that would the fans accept? Some fans might complain that these become little more than Brian and Roger songs with Freddie sprinkled throughout just to have him in there. What we got were 2 mostly finished songs by Freddie (AWT and ML), 2 previously unfinished demos (LML & IABD), 1 complete unused song from The Miracle session, 1 Miracle B-side with a new backing track, 2 FM solo songs with a new backing track, 1 Cross song with a new backing track and 2 David Richards productions (YDFM & IABD Reprise). These are just rambling thoughts, not really any opinion, nor am I suggesting what they *should* have done. I'm just looking at the possibilities. |
| malicedoom 12.07.2011 13:39 |
OK, as I've never heard of these yet, what are the following songs?: Silver Salmon, Polar Bear, Hangman, Sex Show, Face It Alone, Robbery |
| rhyeking 12.07.2011 14:03 |
malicedoom wrote: OK, as I've never heard of these yet, what are the following songs?: Silver Salmon, Polar Bear, Hangman, Sex Show, Face It Alone, Robbery ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ They're unreleased studio recordings. SS, PB & HM are from their earliest days (between '71 & '72). Leaked copies of the first two are floating around. Supposedly there's a "Hangman" acetate privately owned, of which Queen has a copy, and there are a few live bootleg versions kicking around. "Sex Show" dates from the earliest Hot Space sessions (which gave us "Under Pressure," "Cool Cat" and "Soul Brother"). A fragment is played live at the Montreal concert in 1981 just before "Keep Yourself Alive" and on the DVD commentary, Brian says they did record it. "Face It Alone" dates from The Miracle sessions and "Robbery" is from the Innuendo sessions. |
| br5946 12.07.2011 15:03 |
rhyeking - "It's not like they weren't both doing solo stuff at the time". I take you've forgotten about Back to the Light and Blue Rock then? Two albums which are FULL of treasures. For Back to the Light, the title track, Resurrection, TMLWKY, Driven By You, I'm Scared, Last Horizon, LYHRYH, Just One Life and Rollin' Over SHINE on that record. As for Blue Rock... The Cross are masters! Look at New Dark Ages, Dirty Mind, Ain't Put Nothing Down, Put It All Down to Love (which is probably the FINEST song on that album and one of the greatest Cross tunes EVER), Hand of Fools and Life Changes! How can you skim over those two albums so carelessly? |
| Sebastian 12.07.2011 15:10 |
Are you irony impaired? |
| rhyeking 12.07.2011 15:41 |
br5946 wrote: rhyeking - "It's not like they weren't both doing solo stuff at the time". I take you've forgotten about Back to the Light and Blue Rock then? Two albums which are FULL of treasures. For Back to the Light, the title track, Resurrection, TMLWKY, Driven By You, I'm Scared, Last Horizon, LYHRYH, Just One Life and Rollin' Over SHINE on that record. As for Blue Rock... The Cross are masters! Look at New Dark Ages, Dirty Mind, Ain't Put Nothing Down, Put It All Down to Love (which is probably the FINEST song on that album and one of the greatest Cross tunes EVER), Hand of Fools and Life Changes! How can you skim over those two albums so carelessly? ++++++++++++++++++++++++ Huh? "It's NOT like they WEREN'T both doing solo stuff at the time"...that's a double negative (grammatically equaling a positive), which is a subtle way of acknowledging that yes, they were doing solo stuff at the time. The two "nots" cancel each other out. More precisely, I'm qualifying that Roger and Brian not recording solo material is not the case. They *were* recording solo material and some of it could have been directed at Made In Heaven at the time. I know English grammar isn't everyone's strong suit, but I learned this in, like, the 3rd grade. I'm not trying to sound condescending, I'm just saying I thought most people, unless they don't speak English well, would get what I was saying. And I agree 100% that those tracks and those albums are pure gold and any one of them would sound great as Queen songs, that's why I brought up that they could have employed a few of them on MIH instead of the solo albums (which is not to say I think they *should* have, only that it was an option). |
| alan martin 13.07.2011 09:17 |
if you want any issues of the qfc fc mag then check out ebay to find some i did and found loads |
| Battler 13.07.2011 11:54 |
What I'd like to see as a bonus to the Made In Heaven re-release, is for one, the rumored 1986 version of "Heaven For Everyone" from the A Kind Of Magic album sessions, if such was ever recorded. ;) |
| Sebastian 13.07.2011 12:23 |
The rumour's been debunked several times. HFE was born as a Cross song, not as a Queen song, and was recorded long after AKOM had been finished, packed and released. |
| cmsdrums 13.07.2011 17:05 |
Wasn't HFE written for Joan Armatrading to sing? Would that have been as a guest on Shove It or for her own release? |
| Sebastian 13.07.2011 18:25 |
Good point. Have you got more info on that? |
| SimonFerocious 14.07.2011 00:27 |
Made In Heaven is a ragbag of stuff thrown together from different periods of Queen's career and even includes some of Freddie's solo stuff. Most importantly, it doesn't have the perfectionism of Freddie behind it and the joined-up thinking that made each Queen album unique and fresh. It's not an album I listen to much as most if is on Greatest Hits III anyway. As for bonus tracks, they may give us the original 1989 version of My Life Has Been Saved. It was the B-side of Scandal when it came out in October that year. There were some very good dance remixes of You Don't Fool Me out at the time as well that are worth a listen and could be included in the set too. |
| 4 x Vision 14.07.2011 07:56 |
I always thought Sex Show was just some jammin they did before that gig at the soundcheck and they merged it into KYA? Would have made for a fantastic title though.... although it may have brought about their demise in America four years premature! (Queen At Montreal... Freddie sings... "oh oh oh my baby baby... sex...") Mum, "What you listening to Timmy? Little Timmy, "Sex Show" Mum, "A sex show, come here you.... (SKELP SKELP)". Little Timmy, "BOO HOO BOO HOO, not A sex show... Queen's Sex Show" Mum, "OMG! that's even worse.... Monarchy Porn.... SKELP SKELP" |
| cmsdrums 15.07.2011 07:15 |
Sebastian wrote: Good point. Have you got more info on that? ------------------------------------------------- I definitely, defintitely remember an interview with Roger that stated that he wrote Heaven For Everyone for Joan Armatrading to sing, but she said she didn't like it. Now, I don't know which of the following it is; 1) he wrote it specifically for her, but then used it for The Cross when she turned it down 2) he wrote it for The Cross but for her to be a guest vocalist on, but sang it himself/got Freddie to sign it when she turned it down On a related point, can you tell me if Roger's vocal take was done first for HFE with Freddie's after, or vice versa? Cheers. I also can't remember if it was a print interview, a fan club magazine piece, or a video interview, but I will check my papers at home and see if I can stumble across it. I do recall a free magazine for musicians in the UK called 'Making Music' had a cover feature on Roger/The Cross as promotion for Shove It, and a two page spread interview with him inside - it may have come from that; I still have the article so wll dig it out. |
| Sebastian 15.07.2011 07:45 |
As for which vocal was first: read the quote on link |