| All my life 01.07.2011 05:20 |
According to some news I hear that in November will come out a compilation called"Queen forever". Has someone hear about it ? What it ll be about? I think it was mentioned by the Polish FC. |
| Vali 01.07.2011 05:31 |
Hello All My Life, welcome on board ! very little to confirm about this project, I'm afraid, but lots of speculation going on here or at the QOL forum about what the content of "Queen Forever" should be. Some say this could be some sort of , yes, compilation project with renditions by guests artists; some say unreleased tracks could be included (ie: Freddie + Michael Jackson), etc etc time will tell ! cheers Vali |
| All my life 01.07.2011 05:49 |
Is it true that next year all the Live Albums will have UNIVERSAL treatment? Live killers & Live Magic ! It ll be great! |
| 4 x Vision 01.07.2011 06:52 |
Vali, where did this project first get mentioned and by who? |
| Vali 01.07.2011 07:09 |
4 x Vision wrote: Vali, where did this project first get mentioned and by who? ///////////////////////////////// as All My Life said in the first post, first news came from the polish fan club, I think, or from someone at Universal Poland leaking the info, months prior to the release of the remastered albums. As for the live albums, yes, it's been said from "official sources" that 2012 will be the time for the live catalogue. But don't expect for sure seeing Live Magic or Live Killers re-issued and remastered. I wouldn't bet for the first happening. And Live Killers ... that's a different story. I think at least one unreleased show will be issued, too. cheers Vali |
| All my life 01.07.2011 08:06 |
Do u think that in the next batch(WORKS & AKOM) there will be some extras with Live songs from Knebworth ? Hope to not hear Wembley songs again... |
| mooghead 01.07.2011 08:57 |
"Is it true that next year all the Live Albums will have UNIVERSAL treatment?" What do you mean? |
| All my life 01.07.2011 09:05 |
I mean that the plan was to reissue all the live albums in 2012. Considering what they ve done for the studio albums, I was hoping that 4 Live Killers & Live Magic will be add something. For istance Live Killers misses Somebody to Love , FBG, It s late etc..while Live Magic come out really crap with all that fucking edits... Imagine Live Magic 2012 with a Magic Tour set list with FULL songs taken from different gigs(Wembley-Knebworth-Budapest & Mannheim). But maybe I am dreaming.... What do u think? |
| 4 x Vision 01.07.2011 09:47 |
I wouldn't buy either compilation. Sure, I'd buy a complete gig from either tour, but not a mish mash again... even in better quality. Give me maybe 4 or 5 top gigs from each tour and I'll be happy. I reckon we'll get the best tour from each era in a live box set, or maybe the top 10 throughout their career. I hope Forever Queen isn't celebrity guests... that would be crap. really crap. |
| Dodger Taylor 02.07.2011 02:32 |
I wouldnt be suprised if Queen Forever was just another greatest Hits compilation released in time for Christmas. |
| pittrek 02.07.2011 03:41 |
Wow, goodoldfashionedloverboy's English improved a lot ! :-) |
| Pim Derks 02.07.2011 04:52 |
4 x Vision wrote: I wouldn't buy either compilation. Sure, I'd buy a complete gig from either tour, but not a mish mash again... even in better quality. Give me maybe 4 or 5 top gigs from each tour and I'll be happy. I'd love a compilation from each tour. I always hoped a bootleg-expert would compile this at one point, a set including the best possible quality for each track performed during a gig. E.g. a Hot Space bootleg combining Put Out The Fire from the late 1982 shows with Liar, which was only performed during the start of the tour. |
| dysan 02.07.2011 07:05 |
It's clear that we all have very different ideas about the reissue progam and it's fantastic to discuss it, but I really hope Queen would treat Live Killers and Live Magic just as other albums in their backcatalogue. They are very special albums although granted not for everyone - in my opinion perhaps in the same way The Miracle or Hot Space are disregared for whatever reason. There was some discussion about how bonus material would be tagged onto both - restored into the correct running order for the tour (therefore compromising the original album's integrity) or tagged onto the end as a true 'bonus' (not ideal). From the above posts it seems like they might not even get reissued and replaced with something entirely different. That would be a shame, and a nasty bit of history rewriting. Then again, when Live Killers was chopped up and given away as a freebie with a Sunday newspaper a few years ago you can guess how little it is thought of by it's creators. Of course, more archival stuff is welcome, but not at the expense of previous albums - this is Queen after all - produce will sell, and it's not like ignoring them will wipe them from history. I'm in a right grump now. Also - Queen Forever. No thanks. They've gone too far down the X factor route. |
| 4 x Vision 02.07.2011 07:55 |
Didn't the band hate Live Killers? |
| dysan 02.07.2011 12:32 |
Yes, that's what I'm saying. |
| cmi 02.07.2011 13:06 |
Live Killers and Live Magic - both Queen live albums which were released by Queen as an active unit - must be RECREATED from the start using modern technologies to improve the quality of recording with expansion to complete concert sets. I think only this way of reissue of these 2 albums will increase the attitude to them from fans and possibly the band itself. |
| Barber`s son 02.07.2011 13:41 |
Doesn't the situation with Universal Music remind you the same that happened with Hollywood Records? I won't be surprised if in 2012 we see a la Live at the Rainbow Theatre, the same that was released in Box Of Trix in 1992. |
| queen79luca 02.07.2011 14:22 |
No, please! Not edit again!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Barber`s son 02.07.2011 14:56 |
queen79luca wrote: No, please! Not edit again!!!!!!!!!!!!! ================================================================== What do you mean? |
| dysan 03.07.2011 03:17 |
CMI - I'm really not sure LM and LK need the sound improving, it adds to the charm. And I always thought LM sounded fantastic. Live Magic adding in more from Knebworth would be acceptable in my strict deluxe edition protocol :o) |
| Rick 03.07.2011 05:04 |
LK can't be improved. Release the Paris 1979 gigs. The liner notes mention they have the complete multi-tracks and videos of all three shows. That would make an awesome release. |
| rocknrolllover 24.05.2014 09:26 |
It looks like we can get Queen Forever . |
| The King Of Rhye 24.05.2014 10:22 |
whatever happened to the "ballad compilation" that I recall hearing about a year or two ago? Seems like "Queen Forever" would be a halfway decent title for such a thing.....not that that's something I would be particularly interested in getting anyway.... |
| cmsdrums 24.05.2014 11:51 |
My guess is that 'Queen Forever' will still be a ballad compilation, but with the new tracks (anything between three and six tracks by the sounds if it) featured too. Brian states in yesterday's interview that one of the new Queen tracks is a 'huge ballad' |
| *goodco* 24.05.2014 12:02 |
If something like this happens, perhaps 'It Took Us Forever (And A Day) might make a good title. Or 'Who Waits Forever Anyway?'........ Or, 'Who Gives A Crap?' (unless there is indeed 'new' stuff included) |
| noorie 24.05.2014 13:39 |
^^^^^^^ Love that! |
| mooghead 24.05.2014 15:03 |
It was made up by idiots who frequent this board. |
| Queenfansunite 24.05.2014 15:52 |
cmsdrums wrote: My guess is that 'Queen Forever' will still be a ballad compilation, but with the new tracks (anything between three and six tracks by the sounds if it) featured too. Brian states in yesterday's interview that one of the new Queen tracks is a 'huge ballad'That could be there must be more to life than this with MJ as the producer/ mixer was raving about it on his facebook And if you reverse that song the tune is amazing so I dint know what they done to it, but I would ecoorporate the reverse melody |
| Heavenite 24.05.2014 21:37 |
Personally I think Queen Forever sucks as a title. But I guess it doesn't really matter what they call it as long as it sounds as "Heaven"ly as the last one! |
| Queenfansunite 25.05.2014 14:07 |
Should be Deary Me like I said queen used to think up imaginative titles for albums and just because we live in a crap era doesn't mean they still can't think up decent titles for albums It's not that hard! |
| Mr.QueenFan 25.05.2014 14:49 |
cmsdrums wrote: My guess is that 'Queen Forever' will still be a ballad compilation, but with the new tracks (anything between three and six tracks by the sounds if it) featured too. Brian states in yesterday's interview that one of the new Queen tracks is a 'huge ballad'Interesting. Can you provide a link so i can read the interview? Thanks in advance. |
| rocknrolllover 25.05.2014 15:03 |
Mr.QueenFan wrote:Here iscmsdrums wrote: My guess is that 'Queen Forever' will still be a ballad compilation, but with the new tracks (anything between three and six tracks by the sounds if it) featured too. Brian states in yesterday's interview that one of the new Queen tracks is a 'huge ballad'Interesting. Can you provide a link so i can read the interview? Thanks in advance. |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 25.05.2014 15:11 |
The next studio album if I front Queen, which will comprise entirely new Queen hits will be called: The New York City Light I have at least three new Queen albums ready for production, knowing I am genetically identical to Freddie Mercury and others. Graham |
| cmsdrums 25.05.2014 17:09 |
Link to the audio of Brian's interview (he doesn't at this point reveal anything about the other three albums recorded with Graham and already in the can). link |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 25.05.2014 17:31 |
CMS drums, I don't know what you represent or what this about. The people on Queenzone must be a handling classified information in relation to me. There inability to actually deal with the factually correct problems is now starting to cost people things. You are trying to smooth the air with me, but I am determined to make a bigger point by destroying the HSBC building in Canary Wharf which will be sponsored by the USA Government. Graham |
| dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 25.05.2014 17:45 |
inu-liger "hopefully we can get this garbage removed" Well the United States of Government are working on this issue, and Canary Wharf and in particular, 8, Canada Square E14 is the first target but there are many others in Zone 2 and Zone 1 of London. Graham David Bruton |
| Mr.QueenFan 25.05.2014 19:05 |
rocknrolllover wrote:Thanks a lot for this. It saved me a lot of time.Mr.QueenFan wrote:Here iscmsdrums wrote: My guess is that 'Queen Forever' will still be a ballad compilation, but with the new tracks (anything between three and six tracks by the sounds if it) featured too. Brian states in yesterday's interview that one of the new Queen tracks is a 'huge ballad'Interesting. Can you provide a link so i can read the interview? Thanks in advance. |
| Mr.QueenFan 25.05.2014 19:06 |
cmsdrums wrote: Link to the audio of Brian's interview (he doesn't at this point reveal anything about the other three albums recorded with Graham and already in the can). link .Thanks for the link. I will give it a listen tomorrow. |
| The King Of Rhye 25.05.2014 19:57 |
dragonfly.trumpeter wrote: The next studio album if I front Queen, which will comprise entirely new Queen hits will be called: The New York City Light I have at least three new Queen albums ready for production, knowing I am genetically identical to Freddie Mercury and others. GrahamI still would like to know, how can one be genetically identical to more than one person? |
| taptap 26.05.2014 16:16 |
This is Billboard dated today. It doesn't look like it's the Freddie/MJ project, but it does look like unheard Freddie material from the 80's: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6099291/queen-forever-new-album-unreleased-freddie-mercury-songs?utm_source=twitter |
| rocknrolllover 27.05.2014 00:17 |
taptap wrote: This is Billboard dated today. It doesn't look like it's the Freddie/MJ project, but it does look like unheard Freddie material from the 80's: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6099291/queen-forever-new-album-unreleased-freddie-mercury-songs?utm_source=twitterOn Spanish website there is an assumption that on new album will be tracks with Andy Gibb, Rod Stewart, David Bowie, Michael Jackson. |
| Heavenite 27.05.2014 08:05 |
I doesn't sound like the MJ tracks are on this then! I reckon no movie ready to go and the Jackon estate having released an album of solo MJ tracks would be the reasons,if this is indeed the case. You also have to wonder if Brian can simply make albums from scraps like he says he can, why he doesn't make as many as he can, subject to maintaining sufficient quality of course. I mean it's what a large portion of the fans would surely want. And I don't think his mum or sister would be a problem, given that Jer was involved in the promotion of Freddie's photos a while back. |
| Heavenite 27.05.2014 08:11 |
I doesn't sound like the MJ tracks are on this then! I reckon no movie ready to go and the Jackon estate having released an album of solo MJ tracks would be the reasons,if this is indeed the case. You also have to wonder if Brian can simply make albums from scraps like he says he can, why he doesn't make as many as he can, subject to maintaining sufficient quality of course. But what a responsiblity!! But then if that is the case, there might well be another album to go with the Jacko tracks and the movie, if and when they finally get the movie out and the issues surrounding the Jacko estate are organised. |
| JohnH 27.05.2014 16:19 |
Perhaps a good title would be "The Bottom Of The Barrel Rocks" |
| Heavenite 28.05.2014 09:44 |
Hmmm! Not a bad title!...lol! But we can be as positive or as sceptical as we like, but the only way to really judge this stuff is when it's released. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak! Anything else is pure speculation on our parts. |
| The Real Wizard 28.05.2014 11:15 |
Heavenite wrote: Hmmm! Not a bad title!...lol! But we can be as positive or as sceptical as we like, but the only way to really judge this stuff is when it's released. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak! Anything else is pure speculation on our parts.But what else are forums for, besides speculating about how bad things are going to be, and no matter how good it is finding something to pick away at? Deep Purple fans are upset because the Made In Japan box set is 7 discs instead of 9. They released all three uncut concerts for the first time. The encores of all three nights are on the same disc, and this perturbed some people (despite making the product less expensive). You just can't please everyone.. |
| bootLuca 28.05.2014 13:45 |
The Real Wizard wrote: Deep Purple fans are upset because the Made In Japan box set is 7 discs instead of 9. They released all three uncut concerts for the first time. The encores of all three nights are on the same disc, and this perturbed some people (despite making the product less expensive). You just can't please everyone..have you said Made In Japan box set?!? ^____^ |
| pittrek 28.05.2014 13:54 |
Made In Japan boxset? What what where where how much? :-) |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 28.05.2014 16:41 |
When you do the things good, like The Freddie Mercury Box set, ok, but when is Queen Rocks or Greatest Hits3+.... |
| k-m 28.05.2014 17:33 |
I have a feeling this will be it. The Queen Forever compilation with two or three new tracks plus the Rock You sequel. Certainly, no full album in the making, no MJ duets and no feature film to be released. Just a gut feeling. Cherish the new tracks, no matter how average they are likely to be. |
| JDFC 28.05.2014 18:18 |
pittrek wrote: Made In Japan boxset? What what where where how much? :-)Well, Universal got a portion of Deep Purple's catalogue when EMI was sold, and this is their first release of the material they've purchased http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/deep-purple-made-in-japan-super-deluxe-box-set-2014/invt/0602537696383 As far as Queen goes, Universal can make suggestions, but as they are only licensing the Queen catalogue, it is Queen Productions who have the final say on any archive releases we get from them. |
| Heavenite 29.05.2014 07:36 |
The Real Wizard wrote:Hmmm! Fair point Wizard!....lol! Although I guess some might prefer to talk about how good it's going to get, mightn't they? I'm probably a bit more of a glass half full person myself. But I would be pretty disappointed like everyone else if they album turns out to be crap.Heavenite wrote: Hmmm! Not a bad title!...lol! But we can be as positive or as sceptical as we like, but the only way to really judge this stuff is when it's released. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak! Anything else is pure speculation on our parts.But what else are forums for, besides speculating about how bad things are going to be, and no matter how good it is finding something to pick away at? |
| Vali 29.05.2014 09:55 |
it's incredible, just 5 or 7 year ago this project would got me having no sleep."Unreleased/unheard tracks with Freddie, hell yes !!" but today I'm amazed of finding myself so cold when reading all this stuff and these insubstantial interviews Brian 's giving. Will I be pre-ordering the album so to have it since day one of release? yes of course; unheard Freddie is the only slight motivation I have as a Queen fan today, but gone are the days when I felt so excited after "things" like Queen Rocks or GH3 being released. I pray to heaven that Brian+Rog prove me wrong and this Queen Forever compilation is something to praise them for. |
| RS_Protos 29.05.2014 10:00 |
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| RS_Protos 29.05.2014 10:04 |
Well said, I'm also getting sick of the same old over and over again...... Not blaming anyone, they can do whatever they want, just seems to many games over the last 5 to 10 years |
| cmsdrums 29.05.2014 10:23 |
Well Brian's just confirmed no Andy Gibb on the 'new ' tracks, and can't understand where his name has come from in assocaiton with Queen. Perhaps we've all been mistaken about his involvement all these years, or has Brian simply forgotten that he did a bit of vocal? Do we have definitive proof that Gibb DID do something on a working version of Play The Game, or is this just one of those myths that has circulated over the years until taken as gospel??? |
| rocknrolllover 29.05.2014 10:24 |
RS_Protos wrote: Well said, I'm also getting sick of the same old over and over again...... Not blaming anyone, they can do whatever they want, just seems to many games over the last 5 to 10 yearsWill be new unheard material. Be patient. |
| rocknrolllover 29.05.2014 10:26 |
cmsdrums wrote: Well Brian's just confirmed no Andy Gibb on the 'new ' tracks, and can't understand where his name has come from in assocaiton with Queen. Perhaps we've all been mistaken about his involvement all these years, or has Brian simply forgotten that he did a bit of vocal? Do we have definitive proof that Gibb DID do something on a working version of Play The Game, or is this just one of those myths that has circulated over the years until taken as gospel???Well maybe Brian did mean that PLAY THE GAME with Andy Gibb won't include on a new album . |
| no_stairway 29.05.2014 15:26 |
well, i'm not dissapointed with that - i'm waiting for Freddie new tracks, not A.Gibb |
| Martin Packer 30.05.2014 02:51 |
So where DID the original idea that Andy Gibb was involved with Play The Game come from? |
| rocknrolllover 30.05.2014 02:55 |
Martin Packer wrote: So where DID the original idea that Andy Gibb was involved with Play The Game come from?Queenpedia.com sessiongraphy. |
| inu-liger 30.05.2014 05:52 |
Martin Packer wrote: So where DID the original idea that Andy Gibb was involved with Play The Game come from?The Official Fan Club Spring '80 magazine issue. Here is the article responsible (Note: Not my scan, the edge is cut off as is. This came from the FC magazine scan lot that was uploaded here in 2011 I believe) link PS. Do your research next time, rocknrolllover. |
| Martin Packer 30.05.2014 09:25 |
Thanks @inu-liger! |
| AlexRocks 30.05.2014 10:54 |
WOW! It's the ending of the article that is AMAZING! I wish the rest could be posted! They are talking about doing one of the earliest "music home videos"! I've only seen a few in the few years before "Greatest Flix I" by anyone. If I recall Tina Turner, Alice Cooper, and Black Sabbath had one each at least from 1978 on. Of course few people even know about them because of the time that they came out... |
| Apocalipsis_Darko 30.05.2014 12:39 |
Is true about Andy Gibb. Confirmed by Mack. |
| MackMantilla 05.06.2014 09:00 |
I still wonder why the live albums haven't been re-issued by Universal yet.. |
| Heavenite 08.06.2014 07:11 |
MackMantilla wrote: I still wonder why the live albums haven't been re-issued by Universal yet..Actually I think Brian making the Pro Tools admission is surprising! Because "final albums" do really well, just like "final tours" do. And I can think they the reason he would have said what he said was if there was going to be more than one more Queen album to come. Maybe he also wanted to come clean about it in advance and to also justify why Made in Heaven was no longer going to be the last album. And if this was also going to be the "final album, and then it wasn't, well that could cause a fair bit of criticism. So now looking back, the lack of a new album for 18 years is because of no Pro Tools. A second reason might have been not wanting to cause any upset in Freddie's bereaved family, I mean it would have been harder for them to move on with Freddie on the radio all the time. I would think another factor would be not wanting to mess with Freddie's legacy. And then a fourth one might be sales, as I seem to recall that Prince became "The artist formally known as Prince" because his record company wanted him to slow the release of new material, when I seem to recall him saying that he had enough material in the can, even way back then, to keep releasing new material out to 2025. And now there;s going to be at least one more album! And with Brian and Roger not getting any younger, like the rest of us, I'm sure they would want to be around for at least some of whatever else they want to release. And whatever that is might well have been worked on years ago. Err.....after the release of Pro Tools of course! |
| Adam Baboolal 09.06.2014 07:13 |
Heavenite wrote:So now looking back, the lack of a new album for 18 years is because of no Pro Tools.Someone doesn't know how old Pro Tools is :P |
| inu-liger 09.06.2014 17:49 |
Yeah, Pro Tools was actually used during the production of MIH. The Beach Boys even recorded an album entirely on Pro Tools around the time Innuendo was released. |
| EDWOOD 09.06.2014 19:14 |
Like Inu-liger says, this technology has been around a lot longer then what Brian kind of refers to. He kind of makes out this work he is doing on Queen Forever can only be done NOW when in fact they cold have done it at any time. I also find it hard to believe that Brian and Roger have only recently discovered this material. In the podcast that Greg Brooks did recently he said that the first thing he did was to go through all the huge archive collection (I think at one time it was mentioned this was over 4,000 tapes) and get it into some kind of order. He did say that when QP asked him for recommendations of potential tracks to put on the 2nd disc of the 'deluxe' remastered albums in 2011 he cold refer to his notes so it didn't take nowhere near as long to come up with a list of potential tracks for QP to whittle down. I'm sure that with the mountains of archive recordings that has been collated by Greg over the years, QP could provide us with more then one full album of unreleased tracks. The question is, would they want to? It looks like we're getting a handful of tracks at most, maybe with the MJ tracks on top, or they may be released separately. If we do want to hear all the rest of the stuff in its unremastered, rough version we'll have to hope that eventually QP will put out some kind of anthology. Yes I know this has been discussed a thousand times n here before. |
| rocknrolllover 09.06.2014 23:49 |
I think things were exactly as said Greg Brooks, and what Greg discovered the records mentioned by Brian. In archives many unreleased recordings, but to the audience will presented only a small part. And I think Brian and Roger need think about the second album on the basis of these records, still there is time, or it's time prepare the anthology |
| Heavenite 10.06.2014 08:29 |
I guess I should have checked how long Pro Tools had been around. I sort of knew it had been around a while, but why would Brian give it as the reason for possible future releases now if it obviously wasn't? I did give three other reasons for the lack of record releases over the years, that I think could be relevant, but for whatever the actual reason(s), they have now decided to put out an album of tracks. But with such a large volume of recordings, if that is indeed the case, then we may be at the start of a run of new recordings! Hard to believe I know after so long without anything, but we are now well over 20 years since Freddie's death, and maybe Brian and Roger have felt that now is the time to start releasing material again before it's too late, for them at least. |
| musicfanyes 26.06.2014 18:41 |
I really loved parts of the Cosmos Rocks album. For me personally I liked the tracks which sounded more Queenlike and less like Paul Rodgers, no offense to him. I just prefer Queen music with that melodic and bombastic touch and Paul Rodgers is more of a bluesy vocalist, he doesn't have the tone or inflections or vocal timbres Mercury had, not even similar at all. The original Queen had hard rock, classical inflections, opera and classic pop hooks all rolled into one. I think the last Queen song in 97 the tribute song had that, and a few Cosmos Rocks songs like the title cut, Surf's up and May's We Believe was nice. I'm super excited about these "new" Mercury Queen tracks, the point I was trying to get at in the last paragraph, I wish instead of a compilation album, If they have say five or six "good":"new" Mercury tracks they are fashioning into "new" Queen tracks, I wish May and Taylor would write and sing lead on three or four additional new songs to flesh out the album, cool pop hook songs like Taylors Cosmos Rocks or Surf's Up type of thing. But I'll take what I can get. Possibly the compilation album way of marketing will go bigger, because they will be packaging some new songs, alongside some existing well known Queen hits. But for my money I'd rather have 10-12 new Queen songs as an all new Queen album. Why? well because a last new Queen album of all new material, say there were 10 songs, say six were these new Freddie songs, and the other four were new Taylor and May songs sung by Taylor and May, that would be more reflective of how Queen albums were actually done, most Queen albums had a few gems written by May or Taylor or both or even Deacon. In any event I was excited enough about these new tracks to join this forum after several years of just lurking about. Does anyone have any fresh news about the new tracks, how many are there, what will the rest of the album consist of. New I was sad to hear that they are aiming for the later Queen "sound" I prefer the 70's Queen sounds of A Day at the Races, News of the World, A night at the Opera, Jazz, that era was the best for Queen, in my opinion, I don't personally like the songwriting or production nearly as much on later albums like Innuendo or the Miracle or a Kind of Magic, I mean to each their own, Queen is Queen and they are always top notch, but I will certainly buy two copies of the new album the day it comes available, but wouldn't some of you rather they did an entire new album and fleshed out enough new material by Roger and Brian writing a few new songs so they have enough? Wouldn't you prefer that given a choice? |
| Day dop 26.06.2014 20:39 |
If they're aiming for the later Queen sound you'd most likely get another album that sounds like Made in Heaven. Brian's guitar would sound much the same, and Roger would be using big sounding drums. I think they've got quite set in their ways like that. |
| matt z 26.06.2014 20:52 |
Don't suppose the song SOUVENIR will get it's release this time around? |
| theCro 28.06.2014 20:23 |
"Queen are releasing album later this year with previously unheard material" said Adam and then, as you can clearly see, Brian said "mostly" or something like that and then Adam adds "Some is going to be mastered, reworked, orchestrated and Love kills is one of them".. so there you go |
| musicfanyes 02.07.2014 21:11 |
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| musicfanyes 02.07.2014 21:25 |
Why did it have to be Paul Rodgers singining lead on 95% of Cosmos Rocks, and Why do the new Queen songs with Freddie need to be packaged with some Queen hits! for a compilation album I think May and Taylor sound great, they sound great on only the good die you, that African Charity single on Cosmos Rocks, and throughout the Queen Discography. Sure Mercury was the "voice" in Queen, everybody gets that, but historically, May or Taylor would sing a couple tunes on most Queen albums. Why did they need Paul Rodgers on Cosmos Rocks, he just made it sound less Queenlike than if May and Taylor had sung, the new guy Lambert would have been better, maybe in the future they'll cut some new stuff with him. Anyway for me personally the songs Cosmos Rocks and Surfs Up and Say It's Not True, those three tracks, even though Rodgers sings lead on the first two, all the huge Block group Vocals, and the Brian May Guitar sounds and layered May guitars, and Taylors drums, as well as just the bombastic, quirkiness, and sound effects, reminds me of Queen not bluesy Paul Rodgers, so for me, those tracks are Queen, sadly Mays songwriting contributions, Rodgers made those songs sound like Bad Company or something,, but Taylor somehow managed to keep his songs sounding like Queen, I'll take those three and possibly We Believe May's Ballad, and burn a new disc with the several new Mercury Queen songs, and get one final full length Queen album of all new material, sure Rodgers is singing on a couple of them unfortunate, but it will have to do. And this is not a dig at Paul Rodgers, he just isin't somebody who sounds like he should be singing in Queen, if you can't have Freddie, have May and Taylor do it, or get somebody like Lambert or George Michael or somebody who has the vocal timbres and resonance somewhat sounding, at least a little bit like Mercury. I am excited about the new tracks, frankly I don't think Later Queen Stuff like Made in heaven is nearly as good as their 70's peak of News Of The World, Day At The Races. Jazz Or News of the World, they were in a zone 75-80 that was comparable to the Beatles in terms of the hits, classic tracks, just incredible, But hey, the later stuff is good, certain individual tracks are great, I like some of the later stuff, it all depends on the songs, maybe I Just like some of the songwriting better circa 1975-80 or maybe its the production style. or both. But hey I loved some of Taylors writing on Cosmos Rocking, he was ace superstar on that album, he wrote four or five incredibly good songs for that album, its just (urggh) Paul Rodgers sang most of the leads, but May produced them like he was Channeling RT Baker from an alternate universe in 1977 or something |
| matt z 03.07.2014 07:30 |
Man. ... you bastard. ...YOUUUUUUUU BASTARD! ! ^^^^ you're going to get me to "revisit" TCR again .... like an awful old girlfriend ..... like a repeat offender cousin ....... .... so I can prepare for all that disappointment again. THANKS. It's been 2 years already.... ugh. ... smh |
| musicfanyes 03.07.2014 20:50 |
Matt Z hates Cosmos Rocks? why? For the life of me, I can't think of a much worse match for Queen than Paul Rodgers, even so, a few of the tracks sound like Queen, not so much like Paul Rodgers, to my ears the tracks Cosmos Rockin, Surf's Up, and Say It's Not True, sound about 85% Queen, whereas some other tracks sound about 85% Rodgers, I just ignore those tracks and play those three over and over |
| Heavenite 08.07.2014 05:58 |
If you're expecting a Queen album, TCR is a huge disappointment IMO And that's despite a few good songs. But it might be OK if you're not expecting a Queen album. I guess haven't reached that point with the album to know!. But I don't mind Brian and Kellie's version of All That Glitters (ie Once I Loved A Butterfly). However I note that TCR got a Metacritic rating of about 42 last time I checked, which is pretty damn low. And I wouldn't think all those reviewers are disappointed Queen fans! |
| musicfanyes 10.07.2014 17:35 |
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| musicfanyes 10.07.2014 17:37 |
Is there any update about the actual number of new Freddie Queen tracks for the Queen Forever album, will there be any new tracks composed by Brian May or Roger Taylor? Is there any other new information, such as the possibilty of a second new Queen studio album featuring Adam Lambert, or any other news pertaining to Queen in the recording studio? |
| Day dop 10.07.2014 20:25 |
For a long time, I've wanted to hear a reworking of Staying Power. That's a brilliant tune, and Freddie's vocals are at their best - but the backing lets it down. Even a damn good remix would do. Anything that takes it away from that early 80's sound. Mind you, it's not gonna happen on Queen Forever. I wonder if they'll redo Love me like there's no tomorrow. It's a fairly strong tune. |
| Heavenite 12.07.2014 00:29 |
I reckon it's a good bet Day Drop, since it missed out on the Freddie Mercury Album (The Great Pretender) rerelease. Other singles that Freddie released such as in My Defence and The Great Pretender might also be a good bet, although there would not even be the co-songwriting credit that Freddie gets on Love Kills (with Giorgio Moroder!). |
| musicfanyes 13.07.2014 01:40 |
how many new Queen tracks with Freddie will appear on Queen Forever? Will there be any new May or Taylor tracks in addition the "new" Freddie tracks. Besides the tribute song called No One But You, and the Cosmos Rocks, and the forthcoming Queen Forever, is there anything else that was released after Made In Heaven? |
| rocknrolllover 13.07.2014 02:30 |
musicfanyes wrote: how many new Queen tracks with Freddie will appear on Queen Forever? Will there be any new May or Taylor tracks in addition the "new" Freddie tracks. Besides the tribute song called No One But You, and the Cosmos Rocks, and the forthcoming Queen Forever, is there anything else that was released after Made In Heaven?Nobody knows yet. |
| musicfanyes 13.07.2014 16:11 |
I listened to a bunch of unreleased Queen band demo's and also some unfinished studio tracks ,and a few of the one's I heard, clearly, with modern editing and DAWS (protools type equipment) it was very easy for me to find at least 2-3 worthy tracks in 20-30 minutes surfing youtube and the like. Also, I don't know if it was coincidental, or because Queen Forever is currently being recorded, but there were a number of these unreleased tracks, that were now listed as "private" you could no longer hear them without permission from the uploading person.Maybe May or Taylor or their manager, said cool it, we might be using that one. But I did hear a few nice tunes or partial tunes, seemingly well recorded, from the Innuendo sessions, and maybe even an unused Made in Heaven session also, some solo Mercury stuff, some other stuff, early songs, that I doubt are in contention, a Taylor Queen song about a dog bone from mid seventies, I did hear a nice vintage 77-78 Quee song by May, but it was only a band rehearsal, not a multi track recording, so I would doubt that one... My point is, just doing that minimal easy research on youtube, finding maybe 3 useable good songs, I've got to figure they could easily compile 8-10 good new tracks with Freddie easy, and perhaps Taylor and May could write 2-4 new songs, they could have an entire, good quality all new album of 10-14 tracks mostly with Freddie on Lead vocals, easy,easy no muss no hassle, the editing and overdubbing might be tricky, but very doable.... I also listened to Cosmos Rocks and the Never Without You single, last night, and the signature May guitar styles, and the huge block group vocals, and Taylors nice drumming, and the clever little sound effects and clever production ideas, and well thought out arrangements, building the song as it went, etc etc, all those techniques and abilities were very much in play. The guys have enough, to make a real nice monster album, real good stuff if they choose too. Even just sticking 3-6 new tracks with some other Queen hits will be worth 10-15 bucks to me to hear the new songs. But I would be a lot happier if they had more new material, at least 8-9 new tracks with maybe 2 of those being new Taylor May songs, perhaps even speaking to the history of Queen, or the freindship or memories. With cds able to run what? 70-78 minutes? they could easily do 8 new tracks, depending on length, and still stick 8 well known ballads, or 8 of their biggest hits and have room to spare, Sorry for my long windedness, I'm saying all this, because I figure there is a 50/50 chance these remarks might get back to Queen or the manager or someone at the record company, what I'm saying is 3-4 new tracks is a nice gift, but I think you would do better, and sell more, if there is close to a new album worth of fresh songs, maybe even a couple just by Taylor/May, combine 8 new songs with 8 big hits, then you get like a new album and the hits, add one new video for one of the new Freddie songs, use animation or archival footage, whatever, and this will excite people, oh wow, 8-10 biggest hits and a bunch of new tracks as well! Having said all that, (sorry) 3-6 new Freddie Queen tracks, and I know I'm repeating myself, but I really dig, the one off Good Die Young single, and Cosmos Rockin, Surf's Up and Say It's Not True from the Queen + Rogers album so I'm gonna have enough material for a last proper Queen album either way. Even if Rodgers is singing lead on 2-3 tracks, the two rock tracks, Freddie or Brian wouldn't have sounded that much different on Surfs up or Cosmos Rockin, all that vocal timbre, and vibrato doesn't really come that much into play on that kind of song. And Brian and Roger both sing on the Good Die Young and Say It's Not true, and they sound good singing, thats the bloody point, sure Mercury was the "VOICE" of Queen, but May and Taylor sing well, sometimes you gotta use whats in the cupboard Why is all this important? Because it's probably our last or next to last chance to ever get anything new from some very talented guys. |
| br5946 16.08.2014 11:54 |
I don't know what to think about Queen Forever. I hate to be cynical - really I do - but like Vali commented, I'm surprised I can be so cold about this upcoming project. If Brian and Roger could re-use John's old bass tracks and sing lead vocals themselves on new songs they write, you could get a good few fresh tunes out of that. But let's look at the realistic clues - 'a ballad album', 'one or two new Freddie tracks', and 'possible compilation'. So who else is expecting something like the following tracklist: You're My Best Friend Somebody to Love We Are the Champions There Must Be To Life Than This (2014 Remix w/MJ) Save Me Las Palabras de Amor Let Me In Your Heart Again (1983 Freddie version) Who Wants To Live Forever The Show Must Go On Victory (w/MJ) Sail Away Sweet Sister Love Kills (2014 Remix) Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow (12-inch version) And as far as the MJ tracks, I'm not fussed, but I must point out in the case of 'waiting for new material', these were confirmed as 'nearly finished' five years ago. And don't get me wrong, LMLTNT isn't a bad song by any means, but it's a ballad anyway, so it's likely. |
| Heavenite 17.08.2014 07:31 |
I think the boys are going to be way craftier than that song list. They are going to want to give the appearance of a new Queen album to the mainsteam buyer but also include in it as many existing tracks as possible without completely cheesing of hard core fans. It worked on Made in Heaven, so why not do it again? So, I think we'll get 3 or 4 "new" Freddie tracks, which might or might not have existed in some way on YouTube up to now, a couple of Freddie/Jacko tracks including There Must Be More To Life Than This, Love Kils, Let Me In Your Heart Again and possibly a few more of the better unreused tracks from Freddie's, Brian's, Roger's and even The Cross's back catalogue. And I included Brian in that because I think it's just possible that we'll hear something more from the Back to the Light album, even though it wasn't actually released until a year after Freddie's death. |
| akan 17.08.2014 11:58 |
br5946 wrote: I don't know what to think about Queen Forever. I hate to be cynical - really I do - but like Vali commented, I'm surprised I can be so cold about this upcoming project. If Brian and Roger could re-use John's old bass tracks and sing lead vocals themselves on new songs they write, you could get a good few fresh tunes out of that. But let's look at the realistic clues - 'a ballad album', 'one or two new Freddie tracks', and 'possible compilation'. So who else is expecting something like the following tracklist: You're My Best Friend Somebody to Love We Are the Champions There Must Be To Life Than This (2014 Remix w/MJ) Save Me Las Palabras de Amor Let Me In Your Heart Again (1983 Freddie version) Who Wants To Live Forever The Show Must Go On Victory (w/MJ) Sail Away Sweet Sister Love Kills (2014 Remix) Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow (12-inch version) And as far as the MJ tracks, I'm not fussed, but I must point out in the case of 'waiting for new material', these were confirmed as 'nearly finished' five years ago. And don't get me wrong, LMLTNT isn't a bad song by any means, but it's a ballad anyway, so it's likely.If they are going to release a ballads album featuring 3 new tracs only I won't buy it for sure. I'll download it. I am NOT gonna buy anymore QPL releases unless they do something really good and special (like the Rainbow release that i just preordered). Another album like GH3 or Absolute Queen would mean they rip off the fans again, and they just would not have my money. I want to be positive and think that this new album will be a sort of MIH 2 |
| YAFF 17.08.2014 20:15 |
I had hopes this would be a full album like "MIH" but I have little doubt it's going to be a collection of NON-singles (obscure album tracks to GH-only fans) with 3-4 unreleased tracks. I won't buy it. I will get the new tracks of course. I think the best case scenario is an album of new remixes of various Queen tracks and 3-4 "new" cuts. At least it wouldn't be stuff most fans already have in spades |
| Martin Packer 18.08.2014 02:17 |
To get some of the new tracks you might HAVE to buy the album, @YAFF. That would be normal practice, even if we don't like it. |
| Holly2003 18.08.2014 02:41 |
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but in the last Clasic Rock Magazine it said the album will feature "duets with Michael Jackson, David Bowie, Rod Stewart and Andy Gibb." |
| Vocal harmony 18.08.2014 06:40 |
Holly2003 wrote: Not sure if this has been mentioned before but in the last Clasic Rock Magazine it said the album will feature "duets with Michael Jackson, David Bowie, Rod Stewart and Andy Gibb."i think Classic rock may have got it wrong! |
| Heavenite 18.08.2014 08:47 |
Yes! iThat's if Brian is to be believed on his Soap Box. He was asking where do they get some of this stuff, in relation to the Gibb track at least! |
| FlorianS 18.08.2014 09:28 |
I really hope that this project will not just be a big disappointment! I wonder if they would put our another compilation with songs that we do have already on the Greatest Hits and Deep Cuts. If we talk about ballads perhaps they give us the Highlander Version of WWTLF with Freddie doing all the vocals. Maybe there are Freddie Versions of Sail away sweet sister or Some Day one Day, all Dead etc. in the vaults. I would love to hear a Bri and Rog reworked Version of Love is the Hero if they get their hands on old stuff... |
| Doga 18.08.2014 10:21 |
What about ''It's so You'' and ''Love Makin Love''? Brian and Roger could great things with these. One question, who will play the bass, Brian? For the Cosmos Rocks he did it. |
| Vali 18.08.2014 10:49 |
Doga wrote: One question, who will play the bass, Brian? For the Cosmos Rocks he did it.And it sucked big time!! Don't give him ideas.... |
| people on streets 18.08.2014 12:36 |
Probably already done. |
| BETA215 18.08.2014 14:46 |
FlorianS wrote: [...] If we talk about ballads perhaps they give us the Highlander Version of WWTLF with Freddie doing all the vocals. [...] If you want that song, you can always search the AKOM remaster of c_Matt in the Fan mixes forum. In the CD 2 of the remaster, you can download that song with Freddie in the start, and without all those birds from the original movie. And also with greatly improved sound. |
| EDWOOD 18.08.2014 18:53 |
Maybe they could have done an album like 'Love ' that was released by The Beatles in 2006? How George Martin described that album - 'what people will be hearing on the album is a new experience, a way of re-living the whole Beatles musical lifespan in a very condensed period'. With William Orbit as the alleged producer Queen could try a fresh approach with all the tracks on the album. How the hell can they expect fans to be happy with possibly two thirds of the album being the same material again?! |
| FlorianS 19.08.2014 07:32 |
BETA215 wrote If you want that song, you can always search the AKOM remaster of c_Matt in the Fan mixes forum. In the CD 2 of the remaster, you can download that song with Freddie in the start, and without all those birds from the original movie. And also with greatly improved sound. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the advice, but I am not really intereted, just guessing what they might try to sell us..- |
