| malicedoom 10.06.2011 15:19 |
So does anyone know for sure if what Wikipedia has listed on 'Made In Heaven' is accurate? I'm really curious as to how some of these songs came about, and was just wondering if what is listed on that site is the real behind-the-scenes info (it's Wikipedia, so you never know...) Let Me Live... originally recorded (obviously 'partially') in 1983/84 with Rod Stewart?? Really? And Made In Heaven sold TWENTY MILLION copies?? So it's the highest selling Queen (non-Greatest Hits) album then? |
| Pim Derks 10.06.2011 16:13 |
If it's on Wikipedia it must be true. MiH was a huge hit, and deservedly so. Definitely in the top 5 of their best albums IMO. |
| mickeybrad173 10.06.2011 17:20 |
I read somewhere that it was indeed going to be a duet with Queen and Rod Stewart, but Queen dropped that idea. |
| Djdownsy 10.06.2011 17:52 |
Let Me Live was a duet with Rod Stewart, it was originally called 'Another Little Piece Of My Heart' and only had the Freddie Lyric, Roger's and Brian's vocals wern't written until the recording for the MIH album. As for the 20 million copies, I can't imagine that being true, but again, it could be possible. |
| The Fairy King 11.06.2011 09:21 |
Bet Rog took over Rod's vocals....dunno, just a guess. ;) |
| IanR 11.06.2011 15:35 |
What I would like to know is this — were 'Born to Love You' and 'Made Heaven' purposely omitted from The Freddie Mercury Album / Great Pretender Album, because there were plans afoot even at that early stage to re-record those tracks under the Queen banner? Perhaps Freddie himself suggested that those two songs could be reworked as a part of a posthumous project. Who knows? |
| bigV 11.06.2011 16:25 |
It is Queen's best-selling studio album, yes. I don't know what the article on Wikipedia says, but as far as sales go it's accurate. It kinda makes the people saying that MIH is not a true Queen album seem retarded. V. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 11.06.2011 19:08 |
Wikipedia (or PRICKIPEDIA as I call those f*ckheads) is talking BULLSH*T! Those f*ckheads are packed with inaccuracies and removed alot of sources and articles I submitted (all of which my sources were TRUE for the record). Once I told the mods (who removed my painstaking research and articles claiming they were not reliable) there to f*ck off and die, I got banned for life (but I don't give a f*ck as I know the truth much to their high and mighty knowing dismay). Made in Heaven was not Queen's best selling studio album, here in the US anyway (that honor belongs to The Game and News Of the World (both at 4 million copies Stateside)). Made in Heaven barely went Gold in the States (500,000 copies sold in the US) and peaked at #56 (which I remember as the album came out the same day as the final studio album from Alice in Chains with original singer Layne Staley and the "long-awaited" Cypress Hill album (which my other best friend Chuck bought while I was buying Queen's Made in Heaven) came out that day (as did the expanded version of Who's Next by The Who (which I also bought the week it came out)). Made in Heaven had little to no airplay on regular rock radio and VH1 and MTV did sh*t to promote it (here in the States anyhow)! I, on the other hand, did promote Made in Heaven on my college radio shows (which were on the cable TV radio station (where I was allowed to play over 20 minute tunes, rare live concerts, making of album documentaries with interviews (which I would credit the interviewers like Redbeard, Bob Coburn, Jim Ladd and so on for interviewing the bands) and entire albums (I did play all of Made in Heaven on one 3 hour show I had) and the FM station my college in Brockton, Massachusetts also had) as I played "Heaven For Everyone", the title cut, "I Was Born to Love You" and "Mother Love" constantly on my radio shows (much to my Alanis Morissette, Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, Wu Tang Clan and Cypress Hill loving colleagues' dismay as I played metal and classic rock on my shows (at a time neither classic rock nor metal was cool to like)). |
| NOTWMEDDLE 11.06.2011 19:20 |
malicedoom wrote: So does anyone know for sure if what Wikipedia has listed on 'Made In Heaven' is accurate? I'm really curious as to how some of these songs came about, and was just wondering if what is listed on that site is the real behind-the-scenes info (it's Wikipedia, so you never know...) Let Me Live... originally recorded (obviously 'partially') in 1983/84 with Rod Stewart?? Really? And Made In Heaven sold TWENTY MILLION copies?? So it's the highest selling Queen (non-Greatest Hits) album then? "It's a Beautiful Day" was started in 1980 but completed in 1994/95 (the original idea is being reissued on The Game reissue). "Let Me Live" started in 1983 but not finished until 1995 when Roger and Brian added lyrics and verses. The title cut and "I Was Born to Love You" were originally on Mr Bad Guy but Queen rightfully, in my view, re-recorded those tunes and turned the former into a power ballad and the latter into a kickass hard rocker. "Heaven For Everyone" was started during The Cross recording sessions for Shove It. Freddie's vocals were then used for Queen's re-recording in 1995. "Too Much Love Will Kill You" we do know was started for The Miracle sessions but left off of the album and finished on Made in Heaven. "My Life Has Been Saved" (a John Deacon penned tune) was originally recorded for The Miracle album and issued as flipside to "Scandal". We know "Mother Love" was the last vocal Freddie ever recorded before his death and last tune he co-wrote with Brian. "A Winter's Tale" (Freddie's last proper song he wrote before he passed away) and "You Don't Fool Me" were recorded after Innuendo was finished. |
| Sebastian 11.06.2011 20:22 |
> Too Much Love Will Kill You" we do know was started for The Miracle sessions but left off of the album and finished on Made in Heaven. Not it wasn't. The version intended for The Miracle is the same as the one on MIH. They didn't re-do it as it was perfect the way it was in '89. > "A Winter's Tale" (Freddie's last proper song he wrote before he passed away) and "You Don't Fool Me" were recorded after Innuendo was finished. According to Jim's book, AWT was recorded in 1990 which, unless he meant December, was *during* Innuendo sessions, not *after*. Although, of course, it's also possible that Fred did the basic framework first and then some corrections later on. |
| Back2TheLight 12.06.2011 04:31 |
And You Don't Fool Me wasn't really a song...it was merely scraps of Freddie vocals put together by David Richards and brought to the rest of the band long after Freddie had passed. |
| bigV 12.06.2011 12:38 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Made in Heaven was not Queen's best selling studio album, here in the US anyway (that honor belongs to The Game and News Of the World (both at 4 million copies Stateside)). Made in Heaven barely went Gold in the States (500,000 copies sold in the US) and peaked at #56 ---- Ah, yes... I forgot about that unwritten rule, which states that "if it didn't happen in the US it didn't happen at all". Give me a break! We're talking about worldwide sales here. V. |
| Rick 12.06.2011 14:40 |
bambams-paradise wrote: And You Don't Fool Me wasn't really a song...it was merely scraps of Freddie vocals put together by David Richards and brought to the rest of the band long after Freddie had passed. ==== But was it a Fred thing, a Fred/Rog thing or a Fred/John thing? |
| mooghead 12.06.2011 14:49 |
FFS.. why is this whole thing in the 'serious discussion' thread. I remember the same talk from 10-15 years ago.... |
| Sebastian 12.06.2011 15:07 |
FFS, then simply don't read the thread. Or are you physically incapable of doing so? |
| mooghead 12.06.2011 16:14 |
Its ball park stuff, everyone knows this already.... I wouldnt go to a messageboard of a band I just got into and ask the obvious shit..., specially on the board marked 'serious' -' so Led Zepp fans... what do you tink of Stairway'??? |
| ITSM 14.06.2011 05:27 |
I thought The Game and A Night at the Opera were the most-selling albums, and that was the idea for The Works - to have something in between these two, so it would sell more than Hot Space (get back old fans). Also, those two albums has been released on DVD's. But of course, The Works came out 11 years before Made in Heaven... An oberservation is that a lot of people have Made in Heaven in their collections(, and maybe nothing else from Queen)..! |
| malicedoom 14.06.2011 07:25 |
Thanks for the info, everyone. This is the first time I've heard It's A Beautiful Day was recorded as early as 1980 - and very interesting it's included as an 'extra' on The Game upcoming re-master! |
| Pingfah 14.06.2011 07:25 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Wikipedia (or PRICKIPEDIA as I call those f*ckheads) is talking BULLSH*T! Those f*ckheads are packed with inaccuracies and removed alot of sources and articles I submitted (all of which my sources were TRUE for the record). Once I told the mods (who removed my painstaking research and articles claiming they were not reliable) there to f*ck off and die, I got banned for life (but I don't give a f*ck as I know the truth much to their high and mighty knowing dismay). Made in Heaven was not Queen's best selling studio album, here in the US anyway (that honor belongs to The Game and News Of the World (both at 4 million copies Stateside)). Made in Heaven barely went Gold in the States (500,000 copies sold in the US) and peaked at #56 (which I remember as the album came out the same day as the final studio album from Alice in Chains with original singer Layne Staley and the "long-awaited" Cypress Hill album (which my other best friend Chuck bought while I was buying Queen's Made in Heaven) came out that day (as did the expanded version of Who's Next by The Who (which I also bought the week it came out)). Made in Heaven had little to no airplay on regular rock radio and VH1 and MTV did sh*t to promote it (here in the States anyhow)! ___________________________________ Queen's US sales have always been a drop in the ocean compared to total sales anyway, especially from the 80s onwards. So I would say the fact it was not successful in the US does not mean it can't be their highest selling album, it's not even much of an indication of how globally popular the album was at all. |
| Adam Baboolal 14.06.2011 14:14 |
mooghead wrote: Its ball park stuff, everyone knows this already.... I wouldnt go to a messageboard of a band I just got into and ask the obvious shit..., specially on the board marked 'serious' -' so Led Zepp fans... what do you tink of Stairway'??? ====================================== That's incredibly ignorant. If someone is new to Queen and doesn't know these things, they're perfectly within their right to ask someone here. If it's not to your liking, don't react in the way you have. A friend of mine is still fairly new to Queen's story and most albums and I am always glad to help when he has questions. God forbid he posts something here while you're around. When these threads pop up I have a look to see what's being said and move on. Either that or perhaps I can answer a question or shed light on something. It wasn't so long ago since I helped detect that IABD was from The Game era. If I'd acted like you and told them to piss off with more MIH chat, we'd never have gotten into that at all. Adam. |
| malicedoom 15.06.2011 12:59 |
Yeah, I first thought You Don't Fool Me was recorded around (in this case, after) Innuendo, as Freddie's voice sounds similar to the tracks from that album (very high-pitched, etc.) |
| AlbaNo1 16.06.2011 16:45 |
bigV wrote: It is Queen's best-selling studio album, yes. I don't know what the article on Wikipedia says, but as far as sales go it's accurate. It kinda makes the people saying that MIH is not a true Queen album seem retarded. V. I would say if it is the best selling album it makes the global record buying public. Much as A Kind of Magic benefitted from post Live Aid hype, Made in Heaven capitalised on Freddies' death. It is criminally absurd that this album outsold Innuendo the last one where he was actually alive. The album while a nice listen strays very much into middle of the road Elton John type territory and does not represent the true quality and creatvity of the band at all. How can an album of patched up outtakes and solo album material deserve to end up being the best selling . This means more people have heard My Life Has Been Saved than The March of the Black Queen. Lets not kid ourselves an EP with Mother Love, Winters Tale, You Dont Fool Me and Let Me Live would have been more honest. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 16.06.2011 18:09 |
Pingfah wrote: NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Wikipedia (or PRICKIPEDIA as I call those f*ckheads) is talking BULLSH*T! Those f*ckheads are packed with inaccuracies and removed alot of sources and articles I submitted (all of which my sources were TRUE for the record). Once I told the mods (who removed my painstaking research and articles claiming they were not reliable) there to f*ck off and die, I got banned for life (but I don't give a f*ck as I know the truth much to their high and mighty knowing dismay). Made in Heaven was not Queen's best selling studio album, here in the US anyway (that honor belongs to The Game and News Of the World (both at 4 million copies Stateside)). Made in Heaven barely went Gold in the States (500,000 copies sold in the US) and peaked at #56 (which I remember as the album came out the same day as the final studio album from Alice in Chains with original singer Layne Staley and the "long-awaited" Cypress Hill album (which my other best friend Chuck bought while I was buying Queen's Made in Heaven) came out that day (as did the expanded version of Who's Next by The Who (which I also bought the week it came out)). Made in Heaven had little to no airplay on regular rock radio and VH1 and MTV did sh*t to promote it (here in the States anyhow)! ___________________________________ Queen's US sales have always been a drop in the ocean compared to total sales anyway, especially from the 80s onwards. So I would say the fact it was not successful in the US does not mean it can't be their highest selling album, it's not even much of an indication of how globally popular the album was at all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Not necessarily. The United States of America is a huge market, biggest music market in the world. News Of the World sold more in the States than it did in the UK (it reached #3 in the US, UK it stalled at #4) and stands now at 4 million copies in the US alone. Same deal with The Game which was Queen's biggest seller in the States and highest charting (it hit #1). A Night at the Opera has sold over 3 million in the US to date. Live Killers has sold 2 million to date in the US. A Day at the Races and Jazz (and Live at Wembley), each million sellers. Queen I, Sheer Heart Attack, Flash Gordon, Hot Space, Innuendo all went Gold (500,000 copies sold). Made in Heaven was the Let it Be of Queen. Innuendo was their Abbey Road. I didn't count the configurations of Greatest Hits available in the US. The 1970s era of Queen is loved in the States. Hot Space was first nail in coffin. I Want to Break Free was second nail. A Kind of Magic BOMBED in the States. Apart from the big US Queen cities, most of American rock fans (the Bible belt and Dust Bowls, in particular) wanted during the 1980s was Van Halen, Def Leppard (before Steve Clark died), Whitesnake and hair metal (how Iron Maiden and Judas Priest did successful amidst the poodle rock sea is a miracle). It don't take much to sell in Europe, Japan and Australia as they are smaller countries. Most artists now tour overseas as the concert market is better than the US due to the DEPRESSION! |
| Sebastian 16.06.2011 22:46 |
Huge market and all, but still an album that sold relatively poorly there (compared to others) can still be Queen's biggest selling world-wide. The world's got other 194 independent nations (soon to be 195). |
| malicedoom 17.06.2011 10:06 |
About the size of the U.S. market, I agree, and it's an excellent point. Even albums that were just seen as doing "OK" in the States still sold a LOT of copies. For example, if the sales numbers published online are to be believed, even INNUENDO sold a total of 700,000 copies in the U.K. but 1 MILLION in the U.S. And A Kind of Magic which, as was said, basically bombed in the USA, now shows 1.5 million copies sold vs. 1.65 million in the U.K. |
| rhyeking 17.06.2011 10:54 |
According to my notes, the Innuendo Sessions were from December of 1989 to November of 1990. November 23rd, 1990, the band was finished the album and were filming the "Headlong" video and the Electronic Press Kit. The "Innuendo" video was also well into production. January 1st, 1991, the EPK is released. January 7th, Hints Of Innuendo is released. January 14th, "Innuendo" single is released in the UK & US (including the video). January 15th, "Headlong" single is released in the US (including the video). February 4th & 5th, 1991, the Innuendo album is released in the UK & US. All this is by way of pointing out that the band had between the end of November 1990 and the end of January 1991 to send the album off to get pressed and shipped to stores worldwide. That's two months. Which is to say that if "A Winter's Tale" was recorded in December of 1990, it was not for Innuendo or during those sessions. More than likely it was a case of: "Okay, the album's done. Let's get it out quickly and get to work on more recordings!" It's been established that Queen didn't record a lot more music between the completion of Innuendo and Freddie's death ("A Winter's Tale," scraps of "You Don't Fool Me" and part of "Mother Love"), but it seems fair to say that their intent was to keep working during that last year. As noted by other posters, the rest of the album was adapted from existing recordings. |
| malicedoom 17.06.2011 13:39 |
"January 15th, "Headlong" single is released in the US (including the video)." You sure about that? I only ask because I never saw the Headlong video here in the States when Innuendo first came out (and I was looking for it, as Headlong was the first single here, etc.) I just assumed the video was not finished yet or they held it back until the single was released in the U.K. |
| rhyeking 17.06.2011 16:43 |
I'm pretty certain of that, yes. They worked on the "Innuendo" video at the same as "Headlong" and the EPK. The "Headlong" video is pretty much entirely present (intercut with interviews and behind-the-scenes footage) on the EPK, so I don't think it getting finished in time would be an issue. The reason they did both those videos simultaneously was because the "Innuendo" video didn't require the band to perform anything, it's all animated and uses stock footage (including "Headlong" footage). "Headlong" was the first video off the album that required the band to perform and be directly involved on-camera. The other reason was they knew "Headlong" was going to be the lead single in the US and Canada. They needed two videos at basically the same time. And that's not the first time Queen did that. In 1986, The US got "Princes Of The Universe" (single and video, March 12th) at the same time at the UK got "A Kind Of Magic" (video and single, March 17th). |
| Pingfah 21.06.2011 03:41 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Not necessarily. The United States of America is a huge market, biggest music market in the world. News Of the World sold more in the States than it did in the UK (it reached #3 in the US, UK it stalled at #4) and stands now at 4 million copies in the US alone. Same deal with The Game which was Queen's biggest seller in the States and highest charting (it hit #1). A Night at the Opera has sold over 3 million in the US to date. Live Killers has sold 2 million to date in the US. A Day at the Races and Jazz (and Live at Wembley), each million sellers. Queen I, Sheer Heart Attack, Flash Gordon, Hot Space, Innuendo all went Gold (500,000 copies sold). Made in Heaven was the Let it Be of Queen. Innuendo was their Abbey Road. I didn't count the configurations of Greatest Hits available in the US. The 1970s era of Queen is loved in the States. Hot Space was first nail in coffin. I Want to Break Free was second nail. A Kind of Magic BOMBED in the States. Apart from the big US Queen cities, most of American rock fans (the Bible belt and Dust Bowls, in particular) wanted during the 1980s was Van Halen, Def Leppard (before Steve Clark died), Whitesnake and hair metal (how Iron Maiden and Judas Priest did successful amidst the poodle rock sea is a miracle). It don't take much to sell in Europe, Japan and Australia as they are smaller countries. Most artists now tour overseas as the concert market is better than the US due to the DEPRESSION! _______________________________ I am aware of the numbers, none of that contradicts anything I said, you just basically repeated what you said before. The US numbers are irrelevant unless you are going to compare them to the global numbers for each album, so trotting them out again doesn't support your argument any more now than it did before. It doesn't matter a damn that News of the World sold 4 million copies in the US, that still doesn't mean Made in Heaven couldn't have outsold their other albums globally. The US is a single country out of a couple of hundred. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 24.06.2011 15:38 |
Pingfah wrote: NOTWMEDDLE wrote: Not necessarily. The United States of America is a huge market, biggest music market in the world. News Of the World sold more in the States than it did in the UK (it reached #3 in the US, UK it stalled at #4) and stands now at 4 million copies in the US alone. Same deal with The Game which was Queen's biggest seller in the States and highest charting (it hit #1). A Night at the Opera has sold over 3 million in the US to date. Live Killers has sold 2 million to date in the US. A Day at the Races and Jazz (and Live at Wembley), each million sellers. Queen I, Sheer Heart Attack, Flash Gordon, Hot Space, Innuendo all went Gold (500,000 copies sold). Made in Heaven was the Let it Be of Queen. Innuendo was their Abbey Road. I didn't count the configurations of Greatest Hits available in the US. The 1970s era of Queen is loved in the States. Hot Space was first nail in coffin. I Want to Break Free was second nail. A Kind of Magic BOMBED in the States. Apart from the big US Queen cities, most of American rock fans (the Bible belt and Dust Bowls, in particular) wanted during the 1980s was Van Halen, Def Leppard (before Steve Clark died), Whitesnake and hair metal (how Iron Maiden and Judas Priest did successful amidst the poodle rock sea is a miracle). It don't take much to sell in Europe, Japan and Australia as they are smaller countries. Most artists now tour overseas as the concert market is better than the US due to the DEPRESSION! _______________________________ I am aware of the numbers, none of that contradicts anything I said, you just basically repeated what you said before. The US numbers are irrelevant unless you are going to compare them to the global numbers for each album, so trotting them out again doesn't support your argument any more now than it did before. It doesn't matter a damn that News of the World sold 4 million copies in the US, that still doesn't mean Made in Heaven couldn't have outsold their other albums globally. The US is a single country out of a couple of hundred. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT DOES MATTER SHERLOCK! The USA is THE BIGGEST MUSIC MARKET IN THE WORLD! IT IS BIGGER THAN GERMANY, ITALY, ENGLAND, IRELAND, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN (DON'T TAKE MUCH TO SELL THERE). PRESS RELEASES JUST ARE INFLATED HYPE! FOR THE RECORD, QUEEN HAVE SOLD MORE THAN BRITARD SNEERS IN THE US. THE US HATED THE POST-1980 QUEEN OUTPUT, THANKS TO M (FUCKING) TV. IF FREDDIE HADN'T TAKEN PAUL PRENTER'S ADVICE ON IGNORING THE US (PLUS THE POP SINGLES AND I WANT TO BREAK FREE VIDEO), QUEEN MAY HAD GOTTEN THE US BACK IN THE 1980s BUT NEVER HAPPENED! |
| rhyeking 24.06.2011 20:42 |
The US is hardly the biggest market in the world. They're only 4.5% of the world's population. Take a look at the current population estimates: link |
| rhyeking 24.06.2011 22:02 |
Sorry for the repeat post, but I just found this on the Queen archives site. From an interview by Phil Sutcliffe with Brian published March 1991 [parenthesis notes by me]: " In a couple of days [Brian]'s off to Queen’s own studio in Montreux to record new material, though the release of Innuendo is still a month away [Innuendo was released Feb. 4th 1991] – Mercury and Taylor dined together over the New Year and decided the flow of energy was such that it shouldn’t be restrained." It appears the interview was conducted in January, a month before Innuendo was released. A few days after the interview, Brian was scheduled to possibly join Roger in Mountain Studios (he seem certain himself to be going in). So, between the end of November 1990 (the end of the Innuendo Sessions) and early January 1991 (the time of this interview), were any members of Queen, separate or together, in the studio working? That's a span of about a month (December 1990). Worth noting, The Cross + Brian May played the Astoria Theatre for the Fan Club Christmas Party on December 7th, 1990. This could account in part for Brian and Roger's enthusiasm to keep playing and recording. |
| Pim Derks 25.06.2011 04:58 |
I think it's so strange that the Hints of Innuendo tape was released only a month before the release of the album, yet it does have the Brian-sung version of Hitman, an early version of Headlong and the early version of Delilah. It's impossible that these tracks were finished in january 1991, but why would a band like Queen (who delayed record-releases because of a typo in the case of Queen II if I'm correct) put out unfinished, early work...? |
| Sebastian 25.06.2011 07:45 |
Selective perfectionism. Liner notes were often sloppy and they didn't delay album issues because of that. |
| rhyeking 25.06.2011 08:25 |
Hints Of Innuendo was more than likely assembled by the record company and not by Queen themselves. They probably used whatever takes the band gave them before mastering the album in November. I don't think it has to do with tracks not being finished in January. The album would have gone to press by then in order to be released by February. Since Hints was part of the promotional campaign for the album, it would have been prepared well in advance, with time needed to produce actual copies. |
| dowens 25.06.2011 20:21 |
I have an idea! Since "Made in Heaven" is the final re-issue, Brian and Roger should give us a full commentary about making the album on the Bonus EP! Wouldn't that finish the batches quite nicely?! We should make a bunch of noise to get this to happen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) |
| Back2TheLight 25.06.2011 20:31 |
Not gonna happen...you have a better chance of hell itself freezing over... |
| john bodega 25.06.2011 22:19 |
"you have a better chance of hell itself freezing over" At least we know that Freddie won't be able to claw his way from underneath the ice and haunt us. |
| Back2TheLight 26.06.2011 04:10 |
True f'n story!! |
| brENsKi 26.06.2011 04:30 |
bigV wrote: It is Queen's best-selling studio album, yes. I don't know what the article on Wikipedia says, but as far as sales go it's accurate. It kinda makes the people saying that MIH is not a true Queen album seem retarded. V. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ no it doesn't. it means they are more nostalgic in their thinking, especially in relation to the band legacy. |
| Pingfah 27.06.2011 04:07 |
NOTWMEDDLE wrote: IT DOES MATTER SHERLOCK! The USA is THE BIGGEST MUSIC MARKET IN THE WORLD! IT IS BIGGER THAN GERMANY, ITALY, ENGLAND, IRELAND, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN (DON'T TAKE MUCH TO SELL THERE). PRESS RELEASES JUST ARE INFLATED HYPE! FOR THE RECORD, QUEEN HAVE SOLD MORE THAN BRITARD SNEERS IN THE US. THE US HATED THE POST-1980 QUEEN OUTPUT, THANKS TO M (FUCKING) TV. IF FREDDIE HADN'T TAKEN PAUL PRENTER'S ADVICE ON IGNORING THE US (PLUS THE POP SINGLES AND I WANT TO BREAK FREE VIDEO), QUEEN MAY HAD GOTTEN THE US BACK IN THE 1980s BUT NEVER HAPPENED! _______________________________ Is there something wrong with you mentally? |
| Daniel Nester 27.06.2011 09:45 |
Sebastian, I'm sure by "finished" you mean recorded vocals and maybe arrangement of TMLWKY, right? The version that's one MIH is certainly not the same as it would have been on The Miracle. The production of MIH and The Miracle are eons apart. |
| inu-liger 27.06.2011 11:06 |
Pingfah wrote: NOTWMEDDLE wrote: IT DOES MATTER SHERLOCK! The USA is THE BIGGEST MUSIC MARKET IN THE WORLD! IT IS BIGGER THAN GERMANY, ITALY, ENGLAND, IRELAND, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN (DON'T TAKE MUCH TO SELL THERE). PRESS RELEASES JUST ARE INFLATED HYPE! FOR THE RECORD, QUEEN HAVE SOLD MORE THAN BRITARD SNEERS IN THE US. THE US HATED THE POST-1980 QUEEN OUTPUT, THANKS TO M (FUCKING) TV. IF FREDDIE HADN'T TAKEN PAUL PRENTER'S ADVICE ON IGNORING THE US (PLUS THE POP SINGLES AND I WANT TO BREAK FREE VIDEO), QUEEN MAY HAD GOTTEN THE US BACK IN THE 1980s BUT NEVER HAPPENED! _______________________________ Is there something wrong with you mentally? According to his profile, he has Asperger's Syndrome and is unemployed because of it. I'm guessing his Asperger's is quite a serious case. |
| NOTWMEDDLE 27.06.2011 17:58 |
inu-liger wrote: Pingfah wrote: NOTWMEDDLE wrote: IT DOES MATTER SHERLOCK! The USA is THE BIGGEST MUSIC MARKET IN THE WORLD! IT IS BIGGER THAN GERMANY, ITALY, ENGLAND, IRELAND, AUSTRALIA, JAPAN (DON'T TAKE MUCH TO SELL THERE). PRESS RELEASES JUST ARE INFLATED HYPE! FOR THE RECORD, QUEEN HAVE SOLD MORE THAN BRITARD SNEERS IN THE US. THE US HATED THE POST-1980 QUEEN OUTPUT, THANKS TO M (FUCKING) TV. IF FREDDIE HADN'T TAKEN PAUL PRENTER'S ADVICE ON IGNORING THE US (PLUS THE POP SINGLES AND I WANT TO BREAK FREE VIDEO), QUEEN MAY HAD GOTTEN THE US BACK IN THE 1980s BUT NEVER HAPPENED! _______________________________ Is there something wrong with you mentally? According to his profile, he has Asperger's Syndrome and is unemployed because of it. I'm guessing his Asperger's is quite a serious case. ---------------------------------------------------------- I do have Autism/Aspergers (I was diagnosed with Autism in 1979 but re-diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder (which Aspergers falls under) in 1999 and I am not BULLSHITTING HERE). I used to work in the record store business but the store I worked at folded in 2005 after I moved to Redneck Hell (South FUCKING Carolina) then Florida and only stores I'd be able to work is if I was paid under the table as it were and most businesses are outlawing that practice (FUCK WASHINGTON, FUCK CONGRESS, FUCK EM ALL). I wouldn't' be able to work at McDonald's nor a supermarket as those jobs insult my intelligence. I wouldn't work for an office nor animal shelter, I'd go crazier. |
| Hangman_96 27.06.2011 18:23 |
inu-liger wrote: According to his profile, he has Asperger's Syndrome and is unemployed because of it. I'm guessing his Asperger's is quite a serious case. ====================================================================================== And what's then? Everyone can have Aspergers. I can't understand why does it make people mock people with Aspergers. NOTWMEDDLE says a lot of good and interesting things/facts, which are very helpful for everybody. What's wrong with you guys? You should be more politer. |
| inu-liger 27.06.2011 22:29 |
Lostman wrote: inu-liger wrote: According to his profile, he has Asperger's Syndrome and is unemployed because of it. I'm guessing his Asperger's is quite a serious case. ====================================================================================== And what's then? Everyone can have Aspergers. I can't understand why does it make people mock people with Aspergers. NOTWMEDDLE says a lot of good and interesting things/facts, which are very helpful for everybody. What's wrong with you guys? You should be more politer. My post wasn't even intended to be malicious. If I REALLY wanted to be malicious, I would have made it into a nasty, sarcastic comment with far more obvious wording. Keep in mind, I have Asperger's myself, but not to that manic extreme. |
| john bodega 27.06.2011 22:42 |
"Is there something wrong with you mentally?" You're on Queenzone. Ask a silly question, why don't you ... |
| Pingfah 30.06.2011 18:09 |
Lostman wrote: And what's then? Everyone can have Aspergers. I can't understand why does it make people mock people with Aspergers. NOTWMEDDLE says a lot of good and interesting things/facts, which are very helpful for everybody. What's wrong with you guys? You should be more politer. __________________________________________________ Who was mocking? His ridiculous post strongly implied he had some sort of mental problem, and apparently he does. Which explains everything. |
| Sebastian 01.07.2011 08:09 |
Daniel: No, I mean the version is note by note the same, same recording, same performance. It was remastered by Kevin Metcalfe to make it sound uniform with the rest of Made in Heaven, and it was a nightmare for him to achieve that sound. But everything (drums, bass, guitars, digital piano, backing vocals and of course Freddie's lead) had been recorded by 1989. There was no re-take or re-instrumentation in the 1991-1995 period for that one. For the others yes (including HFE, of course), but not for that one. There was no need to re-do something that was already perfect. |
| malicedoom 01.07.2011 08:47 |
That's great to know, because it was driving me crazy thinking there was a 'different take' of that song out there somewhere (the promo tape sent out for The Miracle, etc.) Glad to hear it's almost exactly what they had planned on releasing back in 1989. So I take it you've heard both 'versions'? |
| Sebastian 01.07.2011 11:13 |
Yes, and that's how I confirmed it was not 'both versions' but 'the same version planned for one album and released on another'. |