| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 08:23 |
I was just comparing recording of You're My Best Friend from the concert in Barcelona on February 20, 1979 to the Live Killers version and I want to say it almost DOES match up! I guess a few parts (vocals, piano, guitars, drums) don't match up with Live Killers as they could have been re-done in the studio or taken from another concert(s). But please listen to, for example, the "I've been wandering round" line at from 0:52 to 0:54 and to Freddie's shouts at 1:12 and 1:13, and to many other lines and you'll notice they DO match up. I was comparing word to word, sentence to sentence. Phrasing DOES match up, only a few lines don't, but I believe the major part of it comes from Barcelona (I think the whole thing could be from it). Also, Brian's guitar matches up too. Roger's drums could have been re-done in the studio at some spots, but they also match up. Just listen to it very carefully and you will hear all that yourselves. At least, it's the closest version to Live Killers ever. |
| emrabt 02.06.2011 09:51 |
indeed I've just compared, and in my opinion big chunks of the first 1:25 seconds match. The first two lines don't but if you play the recording side by side a lot do I have no doubt the "been wandering round" part comes from this. Of course, we all know there's one person here who we need to comfirm it. |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2011 12:43 |
re: "Still wandering around ... happy at home" His phrasing is the same, but his vowels are very different. Even if some bits are from Barcelona, it's pretty clear that there are different guitar, drum and vocal parts ... then it's not really from Barcelona, is it ? The song changed little from night to night, so I don't see this as one of the songs they'd overdub to death. So in my summation ... it isn't from 2-20-79. |
| Hangman2011 02.06.2011 13:11 |
Sir GH wrote: re: "Still wandering around ... happy at home" His phrasing is the same, but his vowels are very different. Even if some bits are from Barcelona, it's pretty clear that there are different guitar, drum and vocal parts ... then it's not really from Barcelona, is it ? The song changed little from night to night, so I don't see this as one of the songs they'd overdub to death. So in my summation ... it isn't from 2-20-79. ============================================================================================ Are you sure,aren't you, so called expert? |
| emrabt 02.06.2011 13:15 |
lets hear a few clips left channel is barcalona right is Live killers, i didn't match up everything pefectly but it proves the point, I've used slightly random bits but right down to the "HA take it" before the solo. link |
| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 13:16 |
Sir GH wrote: "His phrasing is the same, but his vowels are very different." It can sound a bit different as this the audience recording and is not in very clear quality. "The song changed little from night to night, so I don't see this as one of the songs they'd overdub to death." If this is the case, it may indicate that Live Killers version comes from some concert, which was near Barcelona (counting dates). |
| emrabt 02.06.2011 13:17 |
double post |
| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 13:20 |
emrabt wrote: lets hear a few clips left channel is barcalona right is Live killers, i didn't match up everything pefectly but it proves the point link ==== I was comparing it in that way as well, which has led me to believe it comes from Barcelona. |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2011 13:45 |
emrabt wrote: lets hear a few clips left channel is barcalona right is Live killers, i didn't match up everything pefectly but it proves the point, I've used slightly random bits but right down to the "HA take it" before the solo. link ================= Well done, sir - you've sold me. So about half of the song is from Barcelona, in bits and pieces. Unreal, the amount of edits and overdubs that were done on this live album.. |
| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 13:56 |
Yeah, I knew I was right! |
| Gregsynth 02.06.2011 14:06 |
What about me? I first noticed the vocals! Haha |
| emrabt 02.06.2011 14:06 |
you're welcome, Frankensteining it together like this seems pointless, but it's highly unlikely they sang exactly the same way twice. There might be more throughout the track but i couldn't be bothers checking it out. You don't waste much time updated your site do you? |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2011 14:13 |
Ah yes, but of course. I've mentioned you all in the LK analysis on my web. Well done, gents. |
| Gregsynth 02.06.2011 14:13 |
Yeah, I just compared the vocal tracks between Barcelona and Live Killers. Many lines match up! I think we can conclude that bits and pieces (of all the instruments), were used from this version--then the rest was either taken from another show, or overdubbed in the studio. I'm 100% sure that the line "been with you such a long time" was overdubbed--Freddie never sang the line that strong and clean on this tour--and I can hear the vocal quality change (sounds like a studio voice--not a live voice)! |
| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 14:15 |
Sir GH wrote: Ah yes, but of course. I've mentioned you all in the LK analysis on my web. Well done, gents. ==== Thanks Bob! It was interestingly enough to do that job. |
| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 14:19 |
Gregsynth wrote: Yeah, I just compared the vocal tracks between Barcelona and Live Killers. Many lines match up! I think we can conclude that bits and pieces (of all the instruments), were used from this version--then the rest was either taken from another show, or overdubbed in the studio. I'm 100% sure that the line "been with you such a long time" was overdubbed--Freddie never sang the line that strong and clean on this tour--and I can hear the vocal quality change (sounds like a studio voice--not a live voice)! ==== Yeah, I agree. The "been with you such a long time" line sounds a bit strange, just like it was recorded in the studio. There are also many strange things on Live Killers. For example, some unknown back vocals on Dreamers Ball. |
| Gregsynth 02.06.2011 14:23 |
What I don't get is why Live Killers was literally a cut/paste job?!?! They could've took just ONE concert (and maybe fix some stuff here and there), and release it. Cologne, Frankfurt, Barcelona, or Paris would've been excellent choices! |
| emrabt 02.06.2011 14:37 |
What I don't get is why Live Killers was literally a cut/paste job?!?! They could've took just ONE concert (and maybe fix some stuff here and there), and release it. Cologne, Frankfurt, Barcelona, or Paris would've been excellent choices! +=============================== Maybe they were thinking of releasing a bunch of live concerts and didn't want any tracks to be rehashes, that’s one of the only reasons I can think of. It's much more mysterious and fun this way. |
| Gregsynth 02.06.2011 14:58 |
Hey Bob--not to spam your site, but my friend TSS_Killer, first mentioned some stuff about the Barcelona/live Killers thing awhile back: =============================== "tsskiller wrote: Freddie has exactly the same intonation on Barcelona's Best Friend." "Sir GH wrote: Freddie doesn't hit the high A on "LONG time" as cleanly in Barcelona as he does on the live album, but maybe that one note was patched up? But you're right, the vocal line is otherwise pretty damn close. Even with the speed corrected, it's hard to tell when the audience recording is in such bad quality." "tsskiller wrote: The drums and guitar were probably redone in the studio (which wouldn't be surprising)." "Sir GH wrote: Then it really isn't a live version anymore, is it? It's always possible that they used the music from one night and the vocals from another." ================================ I personally give TSS credit because he helped opened the door on this (his speculations lead me to analyze the 2/20/1979 version)! |
| lifetimefanofqueen 02.06.2011 19:39 |
awwww awesome hun!!!!!!!!!!! :DDD keep rockin ;))) |
| Thistle 02.06.2011 19:46 |
"Frankensteining it together" LOL - now when I hear Fred I think Boris Karloff!!! |
| Hangman_96 02.06.2011 20:00 |
lifetimefanofqueen wrote: awwww awesome hun!!!!!!!!!!! :DDD keep rockin ;))) ==== Thanks hun! And of course I will keep on rocking... and fighting till the end. Ha ha! I'm gonna do some more researches with Live Killers ;) |
| tsskiller 02.06.2011 22:19 |
Indeed so Greg. I'm also still waiting for Sir GH to update second Glasgow '79 to revise the Bo Rhap since he does not replicate the studio (in fact, he shortens notes and sings wrong lyrics in the rock section, and Brian plays wrong chords in that section too). So that would mean four people helped you figure out the YMBF Live Killers ;). |
| jamster1111 02.06.2011 22:59 |
tsskiller wrote: Indeed so Greg. I'm also still waiting for Sir GH to update second Glasgow '79 to revise the Bo Rhap since he does not replicate the studio (in fact, he shortens notes and sings wrong lyrics in the rock section, and Brian plays wrong chords in that section too). So that would mean four people helped you figure out the YMBF Live Killers ;). Yes but it's still technically the best of all time because his phrasing is great and he hits all the notes except the C5. And i don't know what you're talking about with wrong lyrics. So i think it is still fair to say that he does replicate the studio for the verses but just not for the rock section because he doesn't get the C5. |
| emrabt 03.06.2011 00:43 |
If you want to add more people to the list, you could add our parents, if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be here to help you out. If the list is getting too crowded feel free to leave me off, i only matched a few clips up. |
| Gregsynth 03.06.2011 01:06 |
emrabt wrote: If you want to add more people to the list, you could add our parents, if it wasn't for them we wouldn't be here to help you out. If the list is getting too crowded feel free to leave me off, i only matched a few clips up. ============ Haha. You're fine! |
| Rick 03.06.2011 05:57 |
Roger: "The only thing that is real it the bass drum." Seriously, why did they agree on this garbage? Same goes for Rare Live. All wasted time. |