| mickyparise 31.05.2011 20:26 |
Paul Rodgers says he “may” tour with Queen once again – even though each member of the band has been doing “different things” lately. The legendary Bad Company and Free vocalist joined guitarist Brian May and drummer Roger Taylor to tour as Queen + Paul Rodgers from 2005 to 2009 – as well as record album The Cosmos Rocks in 2008 – and, while they’ve each been involved in many other projects since then, Paul has not ruled out working with the rock band again. Paul says that, while the band was placed on hold “because we all wanted to do different things”, they “may” yet get back together again. The 61-year-old said he “didn’t feel like there was a lot more we could do” after the band “toured the world twice” – releasing live albums Return of the Champions in 2005 and Live in Ukraine four years later – and recorded “the studio album”. He added that “we didn’t want to do it forever”, although he gave the many millions of Queen fans some hope of a reunion when he said that he “enjoyed playing the role for a while, so we’ll see”. But Paul, who picked up the outstanding contribution to British music prize at the recent 56th staging of the Ivor Novello songwriting awards at the Grosvenor House Hotel in London, admitted to feeling somewhat daunted when deciding to join the band following the death of original Queen vocalist Freddie Mercury. Paul believes that he “had to fill a role as well as be myself” when replacing Freddie, who died due to complications related to AIDS back in 1991, but confessed that stepping into the well-established band “was quite daunting”. The singer – who enjoyed great success with his other bands – added that “at first we were just jamming and having fun”, but he suddenly “realised the enormity of what” he’d got himself into when the band’s crew “put the full rig up” and he “was stood in the middle”. Paul also says that he “grew to love Freddie” and “always had a great deal of admiration for Queen” and the band’s original singer, but gained even greater respect for the flamboyant star the more he “studied him and his life and death, too”. He concluded by adding that he was impressed by the way in which the “very, very brave” Freddie gracefully removed himself from the public’s attention after becoming increasingly ill – adding that the singer never talked about “poor me”. link |
| mickyparise 31.05.2011 20:36 |
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| Thistle 31.05.2011 20:50 |
I cannot go into any details, but please trust me when I say this will never happen. I cannot tell you why, or the source it came from, it just won't happen. PR is a sore point for a certain Queen duo, please believe me on this. |
| inu-liger 31.05.2011 21:18 |
Hard to believe you when you can't even go into details... |
| rhyeking 31.05.2011 21:35 |
I may be alone in this, but I really hate when people pull the "I have information, but can't share it, except to say [X]" card. What are we, in Jr. High? Spill the beans or don't even mention it. I mean no disrespect specifically to Thistleboy, it's just a peeve of mine. |
| cjvaldes 31.05.2011 21:43 |
I really hope you are completely WRONG and we can see again Q+PR on tour !!!! |
| inu-liger 31.05.2011 21:54 |
rhyeking wrote: I may be alone in this, but I really hate when people pull the "I have information, but can't share it, except to say [X]" card. What are we, in Jr. High? Spill the beans or don't even mention it. I mean no disrespect specifically to Thistleboy, it's just a peeve of mine.You're not alone. I actually despise that practice myself, especially since anyone can use that tactic on the Internet. If you can't say anything, then DON'T say anything, otherwise that's how you'll aggravate people online and attract troll attention. |
| A Word In Your Ear 31.05.2011 23:35 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: I cannot go into any details, but please trust me when I say this will never happen. I cannot tell you why, or the source it came from, it just won't happen. PR is a sore point for a certain Queen duo, please believe me on this. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's common knowledge that Brian & Paul had a falling out during the 2008 tour (Roger has said it publicly in one of his interviews) but over the last few interviews that Brian has done & when been asked about the pairing, he has had positive comments about Paul. So have they built bridges or is Brian just being professional about it? Me!!!! I welcome it, if it gets them back on the road as Queen, but I can't see it happening!!! maybe as a guest at the 40th anniversary gig (if it happens!!!!) |
| jeffuk49 01.06.2011 01:56 |
Well Brian has said maybe a show this year and Paul said he would love to do 1 off's with the band again, but a tour mmm, I loved the shows but I think its time to move on and if they are gonna tour, which I cant see it now as a band, then use Roger more on vocals with Rufus on the drums when he's singing, or use some lesser known singers. |
| TheKingOfRhye 01.06.2011 04:11 |
NOOOOOO!!!! WE WANT GEORGE MICHAEL!!! |
| freddiefan91 01.06.2011 05:06 |
Well something is gonna happen, Chris Evans mentioned that something was happening that he couldnt mention and now Paul Rodgers pops up with he "may" tour with Queen again |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 05:27 |
OK, well put it this way - a friend, who has worked with Brian lately (i.e at the Anthems tour) was told by an extremely high-up member of Brian's team NOT to mention Paul to Brian as it is a very, very sore point. I think the view is that certain folk were better boosted by the collaboration. My mate was even wearing a Queen+PR shirt, and was asked to kindly cover it! I can't tell you who the mate is, where this took place or even the name of the guy who gave the info, but I can guarantee that it is the truth. That's all! |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 05:33 |
Btw, sorry about my first post on the thread, I just wanted to communicate that it can't and won't happen, but sometimes I just get a bit paranoid when I get snippets of info like that. I know I shouldn't have said anything at all if I couldn't give reasons, but hopefully the last snippet is enough. |
| cmsdrums 01.06.2011 07:11 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: I cannot go into any details, but please trust me when I say this will never happen. I cannot tell you why, or the source it came from, it just won't happen. PR is a sore point for a certain Queen duo, please believe me on this. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree with you. I posted at the time of the Cosmos Rocks tour finishing that this was the case - a good friend of mine is personal friends with a major recording artist (whose band supported Queen before) who reported to him a major falling out between Brian and Paul. I can also see the point made by others posters that Paul Rodgers clearly did very well out of the collaboration; Bri and Roger were seen by many as trading off the Queen name and sulling their reputation, but PR was seen to be brave and daring to try it. He gained a lot of a following from it, and wasted no time at all in playing a lot of high profile, big venue gigs straight after, getting lots of music press coverage and sponsorship. which he wouldn't have been in a position to do without the Queen tie-in. He did small tours and larger one offs before, but not the kind of thing he has done in the last 2-3 years. I'm not saying he shouldn't have done, but that's just how it is - Brian should be long enough in the tooth to not let it get to him so much; at least all three of them have been civil and professional about it in public. |
| Djdownsy 01.06.2011 07:18 |
Good man Thistleboy 1980. :) |
| BootlegsOnYour 01.06.2011 08:45 |
I HOPE SEE ONE LAST "REUNION TOUR" WITH: BRIAN, ROGER AND JOHN!!! ROGER ON VOCALS AND RUFUS ON DRUMS |
| PrimeJiveUSA 01.06.2011 09:23 |
Well, I never realised that Paul got a big boost from the collaboration. Does anyone know who is wealthier...Brian or Paul? |
| rhyeking 01.06.2011 09:32 |
Wait, what...? Maybe I'm totally misunderstanding, but are you saying that Brian was not happy that Paul took advantage of some of the new-found audience to promote his own career? I'm well aware that Paul had a few solo tours and gigs during the period he worked with Queen, but so what? The collaboration was just that, *a collaboration.* Paul had a lengthy career before working with Queen. It's not like he was a nobody whom Brian and Roger brought to stardom, who then ditched the very guys who carried him to the top. And it's not as if he's stealing Queen fans away. So what exactly is the issue? Does it come down to Brian and Roger wanted to do more touring as Q+PR, but Paul said, "No, mates, I'm touring on my own!"? Alright, maybe that could be taken as a bit undiplomatic, but it's not as if Queen had exclusive rights to Paul. And it's not as if they themselves didn't go through a bit of that in the '80s, where they all were getting a little tired of touring and recording together constantly, resulting in both breaks from Queen and solo releases. These are three guys who currently have multi-faceted careers... Brian: Queen, solo, WWRY, astronomy work, photography work, University Chancellor Roger: Queen, solo, WWRY Paul: Solo, Bad Company Re-union In the end, I'm assessing this based on the rumours and innuendo surrounding the end of the Q+PR collaboration. If I'm 100% inaccurate, I'll be the first to admit it, but from what everyone is saying, I still don't understand what each of the individuals wanted or expected from each other and the collaboration, and how that led to the end of the collaboration. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 01.06.2011 09:50 |
I was hoping some collaboration would happen this year, and I thought it was probable that they would play with Paul again in this process. I changed my mind when I saw the Days of Our Lives BBC Documentary (part 2). The mention to the QPR tours and to TCR was really fast and led me to think they consider it something from the past. These are all (somewhat) educated guesses, I know. Cheers, Ogre- |
| Russian Headlong 01.06.2011 10:15 |
I think it will happen, if only for a few shows. I dont believe BM had a huge falling out with Paul,. Rodgers is his own man and obviously doesnt want to be known as just freds replacement. He has an even longer legacy going back to the early 70's with Free and later with Bad CO, The Firm, The Law and a plethora of solo stuff. id like another qpr album and tour would be great. |
| jaq 01.06.2011 11:27 |
Good one Thistleboy...Paul's putting the feelers out huh? His comments about Freddie come hot off the heels of the doc, which is spurring some nice sales for Queen. Hmmm... |
| k-m 01.06.2011 11:46 |
Well, as far as I remember, it was mentioned just after the split that Paul fell out with Brian which was the direct reason why the project came to an end. And frankly, I don't miss PR an awful lot. It was quite interesting for some time, because it was a slightly different take on Queen, but I certainly wouldn't like it to continue for too long and become too big a chapter in Queen's career. |
| rhyeking 01.06.2011 13:00 |
Doing the math, 1971 to 2011, it's currently 1/8th Queen's career (5 years). 2 Live albums, with 3 corresponding Live DVDs 1 Studio album 1 non-album Live single Numerous Live Downloads 2 Tours, 1 a world tour Say what you will, that is not a small output for only 5 years. |
| Donna13 01.06.2011 13:16 |
I think the relationship started coming apart pretty early on - after Brian fell on Paul's piano at the DC show. When something like that happens, all trust is broken. |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 13:38 |
jaq wrote: Good one Thistleboy...Paul's putting the feelers out huh? His comments about Freddie come hot off the heels of the doc, which is spurring some nice sales for Queen. Hmmm... ============================================================================================= Let's get this straight - as a vocalist, I think PR is top notch, and I really enjoyed seeing Queen+PR in Glasgow in 2008. I bought all the albums, singles etc, and even got into Free/Bad Co et al. However, as a person, I hear Paul is a real cunt, and thinks he's Chuck Norris. From what I gather through my mate, the guys feel that PR didn't take things as seriously as they would have hoped, and his career has taken off again since being linked to the Queen name. So, in a way, PR did use Queen, and now doesn't need them. If that IS the case, fuck him. I was one of the ones who actually stood up for PR a while back on QZ, but when you hear stuff like this.... |
| Zodiacal_light 01.06.2011 15:16 |
Thats quiet amazing Thistleboy. Someone more or less confirming what i have thought since the split. I too was at the 2008 gig at the SECC. But for whatever reason , i got an overwhelming feeling that Paul was a bit of a cunt of a man to work with, and that there was ill feeling toward the end. |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 15:32 |
Zodiacal_light wrote: Thats quiet amazing Thistleboy. Someone more or less confirming what i have thought since the split. I too was at the 2008 gig at the SECC. But for whatever reason , i got an overwhelming feeling that Paul was a bit of a cunt of a man to work with, and that there was ill feeling toward the end. ============================================================================================= It was alarm bells for my mate as soon as we was instructed to cover the Queen+PR T-shirt lol. I mean, that's just how acrimonious it actually is. Guess the guys were just being professional in the doc! Imagine that, Freddie's favourite singer doing the dirty on the band? He'd be turning in his grave! Bet he's up there somewhere penning a "Flick Of The Wrist" type ditty about PR now lol. Now there is NOT a bad idea..... |
| Holly2003 01.06.2011 15:32 |
I'd be more inclined to believe Brian May's giant ego was the cause of any friction. Wasn't there also some talk of Rodgers not wanting to rehearse as much as Brian? |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 15:42 |
Holly2003 wrote: I'd be more inclined to believe Brian May's giant ego was the cause of any friction. Wasn't there also some talk of Rodgers not wanting to rehearse as much as Brian? ============================================================================================= With all due respect, I don't agree with the first part of your post. Now, reading between the lines of the info I heard, Paul was not being as professional as hoped. He thought he had no real reason to rehearse, because he's Chuck friggin Norris. Now THAT'S an ego if ever I saw one. And now he wants to boost it further by causing speculation about a possible "reunion". |
| jaq 01.06.2011 15:45 |
Let's get this straight - as a vocalist, I think PR is top notch, and I really enjoyed seeing Queen+PR in Glasgow in 2008. I bought all the albums, singles etc, and even got into Free/Bad Co et al. However, as a person, I hear Paul is a real cunt, and thinks he's Chuck Norris. From what I gather through my mate, the guys feel that PR didn't take things as seriously as they would have hoped, and his career has taken off again since being linked to the Queen name. So, in a way, PR did use Queen, and now doesn't need them. If that IS the case, fuck him. I was one of the ones who actually stood up for PR a while back on QZ, but when you hear stuff like this.... == DEAD @ Chuck Norris...lol I agree Paul deserves all his props, and wish I had been a fan sooner to catch Q(+PR) at least. Reckon it's all about expectations: Bri/Rog gave him lots of leeway on TCR. They obviously tried to build something for long-term (1-offs are for boyband collab:P) But Paul's history...he's a band-hopper. This just makes it harder to enjoy Q+PR...heck, backlash coming yer way, Chuck! p.s. There were little signs. Brian used to jump at every chance praising PR to the skies. At the pre-doc BBC appearance it's Roger saving Brian from having to say anything. He's still diplomatic about it...a gent as always. Maybe he's fuming after a visit from Fred's ghost ("You told them WUT? my idol?:PP") |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 15:49 |
Band-hopper is the word, Jaq! |
| Dr Zoidberg 01.06.2011 16:11 |
I think its too bad that people feel the need to assign blame and to make villains out of people when none of us know the dynamics that led to the collaboration ending. There's a bit of saint and a bit of sinner in everybody. But I have never heard that Paul Rodgers is a "cunt". He was no doubt well remunerated financially for his effort, but still, to take time out of your life, to step into another man's shoes, sing another man's songs, and do it with verve and energy and enthusiasm is no small feat - particularly when you're at the same time opening yourself up to a potential avalanche of criticism. That the Q+PR enterprise came together at all, that it worked as well as it did, and went on as long as it did is nothing short of a small miracle, even considering the cool reception TCR received. For those of us who came into the Queen fold post-Magic Tour, it was an incredible experience and opportunity but nothing lasts forever. That's the nature of things, regardless of who might or might not have been "a cunt". |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 16:28 |
Dr Zoidberg wrote: I think its too bad that people feel the need to assign blame and to make villains out of people when none of us know the dynamics that led to the collaboration ending. There's a bit of saint and a bit of sinner in everybody. But I have never heard that Paul Rodgers is a "cunt". He was no doubt well remunerated financially for his effort, but still, to take time out of your life, to step into another man's shoes, sing another man's songs, and do it with verve and energy and enthusiasm is no small feat - particularly when you're at the same time opening yourself up to a potential avalanche of criticism. That the Q+PR enterprise came together at all, that it worked as well as it did, and went on as long as it did is nothing short of a small miracle, even considering the cool reception TCR received. For those of us who came into the Queen fold post-Magic Tour, it was an incredible experience and opportunity but nothing lasts forever. That's the nature of things, regardless of who might or might not have been "a cunt". ============================================================================================= Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up....and is also a band-hopper. Agreed RE the shows, in fact I couldn't agree more, but I think the signs point towards PR being the problem and the reason for the break-up. He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol |
| GratefulFan 01.06.2011 16:35 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: My mate was even wearing a Queen+PR shirt, and was asked to kindly cover it! ======================= Please cover your offensive Paul Rogers gear lest Mr. May become upset. Really? That's pretty extreme, and not entirely unrevealing. It usually takes two to create tension and friction, but just one can be the major force in a falling out. Brian is wonderful in a hundred ways, but he also has some pretty strange and rigid ways of sorting people into his personal piles of villains and heroes. I can certainly see him being the key force in establishing and sustaining a feud far past where somebody with a more flexible and relaxed personality would take it. |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 16:42 |
GratefulFan wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: My mate was even wearing a Queen+PR shirt, and was asked to kindly cover it! ======================= Please cover your offensive Paul Rogers gear lest Mr. May become upset. Really? That's pretty extreme, and not entirely unrevealing. It usually takes two to create tension and friction, but just one can be the major force in a falling out. Brian is wonderful in a hundred ways, but he also has some pretty strange and rigid ways of sorting people into his personal piles of villains and heroes. I can certainly see him being the key force in establishing and sustaining a feud far past where somebody with a more flexible and relaxed personality would take it. ============================================================================================= It does look pretty childish (about the T-shirt, that is, because he should remain professional. But maybe he wouldn't have reacted angrily, who knows? Maybe it was just an over-zealous official being too cautious???). However, if the situation is the way I am lead to believe it is, I cannot blame Brian for being pissed off. |
| rhyeking 01.06.2011 16:45 |
It's also worth considering how each of us views the collaboration. For myself, I viewed it as three equals, all coming to the table with talents, songs and ideas, both on tour and on the album. You might say, "Well, it was mostly Queen songs on the tours, with a few token Paul Rodgers songs sprinkled throughout." I think that's a little simplistic. Let's take a look... Here are the songs, their original context and then who sung it live: Reaching Out = PR + BM (PR) Tie Your Mother Down = Q (PR) I Want To Break Free = Q (PR) Fat Bottomed Girls = Q (PR) Wishing Well = PR (PR) Another One Bites The Dust = Q (PR) Crazy Little Thing Called Love = Q (PR) Say It's Not True = Q (RT) '39 = Q (BM) I Was Born To Love You = FM (RT + BM) Love Of My Life = Q (BM) Hammer To Fall = Q (BM + PR) Feel Like Makin' Love = PR (PR) Let There Be Drums = Sandy Nelson cover (N/A) Guitar Solo = Q (N/A) Last Horizon = BM (N/A) These Are The Days Of Our Lives = Q (RT) Radio Ga Ga = Q (RT + PR) Can't Get Enough = PR (PR) Seagull = PR (PR) A Kind Of Magic = Q (PR) I Want It All = Q (PR) Bohemian Rhapsody = Q (FM + PR) The Show Must Go On = Q (PR) All Right Now = PR (PR) We Will Rock You = Q (PR) We Are The Champions = Q (PR) God Save The Queen = Trad. (N/A) So, in the end, Paul sang 16 to 17 songs, 5 to 6 of them were his from other projects. That's about 30% 8 to 9 songs he didn't sing on at all, either because Roger and/or Brian did, or they were instrumental. 1 was a recording (GSTQ). That's about 30% as well. So, at the end of the day, Paul sung about 66 to 70% of the songs per concert on the first tour, half were his. The other 30% were Brian and Roger. That's a pretty balanced representation. |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 16:48 |
That's some pretty neat stats RK, but what point are you making? |
| Thistle 01.06.2011 16:52 |
That sounded cheeky. I didn't mean it like that RK lol. |
| GratefulFan 01.06.2011 17:28 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: It does look pretty childish (about the T-shirt, that is, because he should remain professional. But maybe he wouldn't have reacted angrily, who knows? Maybe it was just an over-zealous official being too cautious???). However, if the situation is the way I am lead to believe it is, I cannot blame Brian for being pissed off. ====================== Thing is, Brian is perpetually pissed off. Truthfully I'm about worn out of his pissedoffedness, though never worn out of him. At some point I think you do have to start adjusting your filter for people who seem to be perpetually mad at everything and everyone that doesn't conform to whatever it is they think others ought to think/do/be. Like it or not, that does indicate a tendency to raging ego at least sometimes, or perhaps more accurately egocentrism. That can't be easy to work with all the time. I love, love, love Rodgers' work, but as a human being he's always struck me as kind of a shallow drip, entirely average in almost every way. That might get kind of annoying too. But one guy is talking reunion and one guy apparently has a 'very, very sore spot' and by coincidence that same guy also happens to be a bit of a festering pit of sore spots. So I'd be inclined to think that Brian would be the bigger part of the problem, particularly if 'the problem' is not only the original reasons for the falling out but the path to ironing out any issues and moving forward. |
| Bo Alex 01.06.2011 20:01 |
No more Paul Rodgers, please! He sucks! |
| the dude 1366 01.06.2011 20:11 |
One thing is true. We don't know the truth on this. At least they are publicly being adults about it. I got to see Queen live because Paul agreed to sing. |
| The Real Wizard 01.06.2011 21:13 |
Bo Alex wrote: No more Paul Rodgers, please! He sucks! ============== According to what criteria? According to my criteria, he is the only person to have been in three bands that sold over a million records each. Whether or not I like his style, I'd say he's pretty good! |
| Bo Alex 01.06.2011 21:46 |
Sir GH wrote: Bo Alex wrote: No more Paul Rodgers, please! He sucks! ============== According to what criteria? According to my criteria, he is the only person to have been in three bands that sold over a million records each. Whether or not I like his style, I'd say he's pretty good! According to my own point of view, of course.To me, it's just my subjectivity that counts. I don't like his style and I don't think it fit with Queen songs. To me, he just sucks. Anyway, I have to admit that due to the whole Q+PR thing I could see them live in 2008. |
| The Real Wizard 01.06.2011 22:34 |
Bo Alex wrote: I don't like his style and I don't think it fit with Queen songs. To me, he just sucks. ====================== The first statement is fair, but the second one isn't. Just because you feel like he doesn't do Queen songs justice doesn't mean he sucks. Paul is a blues singer, and blues is the predecessor to rock and roll... they are very interconnected. What is it with closed-minded Queen fans who can't accept any interpretation of a Queen song by someone who doesn't sound like Freddie? It's like those Beatles fans who scoffed at the Across The Universe soundtrack because the arrangements were different, or the classical snobs who think Glenn Gould's Bach Variations are sacrilege. I think these marriages are refreshing and give the music new life. Art is meant to grow with new interpretations ... not remain static forever. |
| mike hunt 01.06.2011 22:56 |
Sir GH wrote: Bo Alex wrote: I don't like his style and I don't think it fit with Queen songs. To me, he just sucks. ====================== The first statement is fair, but the second one isn't. Just because you feel like he doesn't do Queen songs justice doesn't mean he sucks. Paul is a blues singer, and blues is the predecessor to rock and roll... they are very interconnected. What is it with closed-minded Queen fans who can't accept any interpretation of a Queen song by someone who doesn't sound like Freddie? It's like those Beatles fans who scoffed at the Across The Universe soundtrack because the arrangements were different, or the classical snobs who think Glenn Gould's Bach Variations are sacrilege. I think these marriages are refreshing and give the music new life. Art is meant to grow with new interpretations ... not remain static forever. Why you ripping on the guy?....calling him close-minded. Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded. I agree with alex as far as that is concerned. i don't agree with the "he sucks" comment. His own material never sounded better with Queen behind him, and is a legend in his own right. I just don't like him in queen. You don't have to like every note Brian plays Bob. |
| rhyeking 01.06.2011 22:56 |
The point with the earlier stats was that the Queen + Paul Rodgers collaboration was more or less equal between the three men. I've read thoughts here and elsewhere along the lines of "Paul filling Freddie's shoes" or "they needed a singer...", which are both only accurate to a point. And I acknowledge I'm taking those statements slightly out of context. Yes, Paul was singing songs Freddie had perfected, but Paul was not a hired gun to fill the Freddie-less void in Queen. I'm not saying everyone here thought that he was, but I sense some folks (here and in the real world) did view him as something like that. When it comes right down to it, Paul was an equally contributing member of the team, which was not *QUEEN!!!* + paul rodgers (or vice versa). As an equal partner, he's allowed his share of the resulting promotion, renewed interest and expanded fan base. Wasn't that part of the original intent, to pool resources, talents and their *names*? As I said before, I don't know what caused the end of the partnership, if it had anything to do with anything discussed here, but I think for those 5 years, Paul appears to have pulled his own weight and if so, deserves to reap some of the rewards for the effort (as do Brian and Roger!). If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Oh, and no offence taken by the question about the stats. :-) |
| john bodega 02.06.2011 00:36 |
"It's like those Beatles fans who scoffed at the Across The Universe soundtrack because the arrangements were different" Nah... it wasn't just because of the arrangements. It generally stank on ice. Not unilaterally, not entirely ... but for the most part it was piss on the sidewalk of music. It was kind of disappointing, as I'd liked the concept when it was described to me. |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2011 01:39 |
mike hunt wrote: Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded. ===================== Correct. But he did say that Paul Rodgers sucks for the sole reason that he felt he doesn't fit the Queen sound. That's a very different statement, and the very definition of closed-minded. There's more to Paul than what he did with Queen, but some of these people are so obsessed with Queen to the point that they'll hate anyone who sings Queen songs in a new way. Not liking his interpretations is one thing, but to hate the artist in his totality for this reason is another. I bet most of these Queen fans who hate Paul probably can't even name a single song of his that wasn't in the QPR setlists. I guess it just saddens me that so many people are full of hate when it comes to music. Politics and religion are supposed to divide us, not music ... it should unite us. To actually hate a person who makes a living off entertaining people and hasn't done harm to anyone ... I just can't understand the mentality. |
| mike hunt 02.06.2011 03:38 |
Sir GH wrote: mike hunt wrote: Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded. ===================== Correct. But he did say that Paul Rodgers sucks for the sole reason that he felt he doesn't fit the Queen sound. That's a very different statement, and the very definition of closed-minded. There's more to Paul than what he did with Queen, but some of these people are so obsessed with Queen to the point that they'll hate anyone who sings Queen songs in a new way. Not liking his interpretations is one thing, but to hate the artist in his totality for this reason is another. I bet most of these Queen fans who hate Paul probably can't even name a single song of his that wasn't in the QPR setlists. I guess it just saddens me that so many people are full of hate when it comes to music. Politics and religion are supposed to divide us, not music ... it should unite us. To actually hate a person who makes a living off entertaining people and hasn't done harm to anyone ... I just can't understand the mentality. Hates a strong word....how about dislike?....every group has these Obsessed fans. Queen has these, but fans of other bands are even worse....Most grow out of that obessed stage, some never grow up. On another note...... Nice comments by Paul Rodger's regarding Freddie in a recent interview. the More people learn about freddie the more respect they have for him. The more they dig inside the music and all the rare gems that wern't hits, and towards the end of his life still rocking away and never saying "poor me." just wanted to point that out......paul has nothing but good things to say about Queen. |
| OneTrackMind 02.06.2011 06:55 |
I really hope they do it again. I didn't go first time 'round, thinking "Oh this isn't Queen, I don't want to see some guy trying to replace Freddie", which of course was a stupid way of looking at it. I was sorry I didn't go, and I'd jump at the chance if they do it again. It's still half of the Original Queen at the end of the day. |
| pittrek 02.06.2011 07:01 |
The Vienna concert on their 2008 tour was my first "Queen" concert ever. I didn't know that it will be my last, too :-( I want more, of course |
| Thistle 02.06.2011 07:16 |
GratefulFan wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: It does look pretty childish (about the T-shirt, that is, because he should remain professional. But maybe he wouldn't have reacted angrily, who knows? Maybe it was just an over-zealous official being too cautious???). However, if the situation is the way I am lead to believe it is, I cannot blame Brian for being pissed off. ====================== Thing is, Brian is perpetually pissed off. Truthfully I'm about worn out of his pissedoffedness, though never worn out of him. At some point I think you do have to start adjusting your filter for people who seem to be perpetually mad at everything and everyone that doesn't conform to whatever it is they think others ought to think/do/be. Like it or not, that does indicate a tendency to raging ego at least sometimes, or perhaps more accurately egocentrism. That can't be easy to work with all the time. I love, love, love Rodgers' work, but as a human being he's always struck me as kind of a shallow drip, entirely average in almost every way. That might get kind of annoying too. But one guy is talking reunion and one guy apparently has a 'very, very sore spot' and by coincidence that same guy also happens to be a bit of a festering pit of sore spots. So I'd be inclined to think that Brian would be the bigger part of the problem, particularly if 'the problem' is not only the original reasons for the falling out but the path to ironing out any issues and moving forward. ============================================================================================= But is there a need for them to "move forward" with Paul? Looks to me like PR is just trying to capitalise on Queen's recent resurgence....and you know the saying "once bitten twice shy". I really can't blame Brian. |
| ptr 02.06.2011 07:28 |
I'd be happy to see them work together again. I think that some of you have a short memory a bit.... How I think that it really happened? - in 2004/5 era, when QPR collaboration began, PR himself kindly said, that Queen songs were not played for long time live, so he wants to give fans the chance to hear basically this stuff. 20 from 25 songs were from Queen in setlist, Paul's tracks were just basically "must be" tracks like All Right Now, Cant Get Enough, Feel Like Making Love or Wishing Well. That was compromise from him. Dont forget - before the tour, fans were almost "afraid" of 50:50 setlist and it was just a collaboration of 2 big artists (Queen / Paul Rodgers), so it would not be suprising. - then they did their own new stuff, new album together. I believe that cause of friction was just because of setlist and that ballancing of old Queen songs (and almost all of them were done previously on 2005 Tour, so fans already had a chance to hear them before!), new stuff and Paul's tracks. Go through the setlists of 2008 Tour and just think which tracks were dropped in favour of newly added QPR tracks.... Wishing Well and Feel Like Making Love were dropped for new tracks and NO Queen song was dropped beside of short version of One Vision.... After that came the problems with Surf's Up Schools Out introduction which Paul and Roger liked, but Brian hated and then they made a biggest mistake of the tour with horrible opening Hammer To Fall. Compare it - beginning of tour.... later tour: Bad Company.................... A Kind Of Magic (sung by Roger) Warboys...............................Bad Company Feel Like Makin' Love........We Believe Guitar Solo......................... Guitar Solo Paul was doing to much compromises and I think that it was cause of problem between him and Brian. |
| john bodega 02.06.2011 09:52 |
Q+PR was a great experiment that I was hugely in favour of at the start, but it ran its full course pretty quickly. Paul Rodgers does what he does, and that's okay. It's pretty obvious that he can bring little (if anything) more to the table. They played some great shows, made a lot of people happy, and recorded a fairly average album. (People seem to take the word 'average' as some sort of insult - I'm speaking about the album generally though, as it has some great moments that I will hold up against anything). Having said all that, I'd be glad if they never worked together again. Onward and upward - I think Brian and Roger should seek some self esteem and just record together. They really are good enough. |
| Thistle 02.06.2011 10:24 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Q+PR was a great experiment that I was hugely in favour of at the start, but it ran its full course pretty quickly. Paul Rodgers does what he does, and that's okay. It's pretty obvious that he can bring little (if anything) more to the table. They played some great shows, made a lot of people happy, and recorded a fairly average album. (People seem to take the word 'average' as some sort of insult - I'm speaking about the album generally though, as it has some great moments that I will hold up against anything). Having said all that, I'd be glad if they never worked together again. Onward and upward - I think Brian and Roger should seek some self esteem and just record together. They really are good enough. ============================================================================================= Well put Zeb, so I'd second that! |
| Soundfreak 02.06.2011 10:42 |
There was always friction inside Queen - as you could just hear in the new BBC documentary. So if there is or was some friction between Paul Rodgers and Brian May it should not be overrated. I always wonder, if all those people who complain about Paul Rodgers ever have been to a show. Watching videos does not give the real picture. I saw them in Dortmund where I used to see the original Queen. And it was a night to remember ! There was more presence of Freddie in the building than in the days when he was really there. I have never witnessed something like that before. And Paul Rodgers did a great job finding the right balance. I have also seen the several videos and heard the recordings, but they do not give the full picture. So if they decide to carry on - fine ! What goes on behind the scenes should not be our cup of tea. I don't know of any band without any friction from time to time.... |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2011 11:07 |
mike hunt wrote: Nice comments by Paul Rodger's regarding Freddie in a recent interview. the More people learn about freddie the more respect they have for him. The more they dig inside the music and all the rare gems that wern't hits, and towards the end of his life still rocking away and never saying "poor me." just wanted to point that out......paul has nothing but good things to say about Queen. ================== Exactly my point ... Paul is an exemplary class act. |
| Dr Zoidberg 02.06.2011 11:22 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: ============================================================================================= Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up....and is also a band-hopper. Agreed RE the shows, in fact I couldn't agree more, but I think the signs point towards PR being the problem and the reason for the break-up. He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol ============================== That was, what, like 35 years ago? I don't think you can judge someone's present day behavior based on something they did decades ago. People grow up. Like I said, I don't think anyone outside the trio and their immediate circles know what happened, and so I don't think it does any good to assign blame based on idle speculation and fannish biases. I mean, I love Brian May to bits but he does seem like a bit of a pill sometimes, so who knows. |
| OneTrackMind 02.06.2011 11:26 |
Maybe they should get Gary Mullen in and have done with it :) |
| Thistle 02.06.2011 11:30 |
Dr Zoidberg wrote: I don't think anyone outside the trio and their immediate circles know what happened, and so I don't think it does any good to assign blame based on idle speculation and fannish biases. ============================================================================================= Could you please go back to page one and read where the story came from? |
| GratefulFan 02.06.2011 11:35 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: But is there a need for them to "move forward" with Paul? Looks to me like PR is just trying to capitalise on Queen's recent resurgence....and you know the saying "once bitten twice shy". I really can't blame Brian. ===================================== Of course not. But again it's not unrevealing that he seems willing to burn bridges with a fellow artist and one time collaborator to the point that his distaste for him has become publicly palpable, when everybody else in the mix seems willing to leave the door open for one offs etc. This is particularly true in an anniversary year, probably their last 'big' anniversary year, when it would be great to have all possibilities open. And it leaves Roger kind of holding the bag for the public diplomacy and such. Roger has disproportionately had to distance or differentiate himself from Brian's public statements and better known private sentiments over the years. The entire point of this is that there is an overwhelming indication that Brian is not always, and perhaps even not often, an easy guy. These conversations usually come up when it's perceived that people are too soft on him, usually at the expense of somebody else, in this case Paul Rodgers. |
| The Real Wizard 02.06.2011 13:35 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up.... He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol ============= Freddie Mercury threw a brick through his manager's window ... because their manager left a restaurant after Mercury broke his "don't talk to the press" rule. He also once smashed a mirror over his assistant's head and demanded he clean it up.. Consistency, people .. consistency. |
| Thistle 02.06.2011 14:09 |
Sir GH wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Well, he did beat Mick Ralphs up.... He is an ex-boxer and a 2nd degree blackbelt in oragami or whatever, so I reckon he does have some pent up anger issues lol ============= Freddie Mercury threw a brick through his manager's window ... because their manager left a restaurant after Mercury broke his "don't talk to the press" rule. He also once smashed a mirror over his assistant's head and demanded he clean it up.. Consistency, people .. consistency. ============================================================================================= Yeah, but Freddie was allowed because he was on his period lol |
| Donna13 02.06.2011 15:19 |
I like Paul as a talent and I think it was pretty nice of him to go on tour and sing so many songs he didn't write. We don't know what made it come to an end but we do know that Paul had intended it to be a short-term collaboration due to his solo work, as he stated in the interviews pretty early on. If Brian and Roger get another singer and go out on tour or just go out on their own, it would be great. |
| e-man 02.06.2011 18:11 |
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote: I was hoping some collaboration would happen this year, and I thought it was probable that they would play with Paul again in this process. I changed my mind when I saw the Days of Our Lives BBC Documentary (part 2). The mention to the QPR tours and to TCR was really fast and led me to think they consider it something from the past. These are all (somewhat) educated guesses, I know. Cheers, Ogre- the albums wasn't mentioned. The 4 years with Paul were edited down to Roger saying "The Paul Rodgers tour was (SINGULAR!!) great. He's a great singer, completely different from Freddie" |
| Doga 02.06.2011 20:12 |
Thanks to the Cosmos Tour my friends and I saw Brian & Roger live! It was in Murcia, Spain, in one of the five open air shows of the tour (Kharkiv,Murcia,Dubai, Argentina and Chile) This was my first concert in a stadium too. It was the whole cloudy day and we were afraid because maybe they cancel the gig if rain, but thanks to God the night was fantastic, the band open with the Thunders/Surf's Up/YEAAAAH/Hammer To Fall and played the usual setlist. Of course Bijou and Rhapsody were the most emotive moments of the night. We saw the concert very near to Brian and the whole band was on fire, maybe they are impressed for the wild crowd (wild in the good way), we sang all the songs, Paul noticed that in Another One Bites the Dust and did a singalong with the audience (eoooo- eooooo!!) after the song end. At this point i remember think that Paul was a nice guy. We are waiting for the I Want It All Solo and Dr. May did a great work as usual, fantastic! Mr. Rodgers did a superb version of Seagull that night, one of my friends was very impressed and adopted ''Seagull'' as his favourite song from that day. The Roger solo was another top moment of the night, we never saw something like this, in '39 the crowd didn't sang so much but in ''Love of my Life'' did it at top voice, Brian gave thanks to us for this, and said that this was his first visit in Murcia, but not his first visit in Spain. The part of the Brian Solo/Bijou/Last Horizon was one of my favourites moments of that night, in the solo Brian played riffs from ''Keep Yourself Alive'' and ''Now I'm Here'' and was in top form With Radio Ga Ga the impressed was the band, all the stadium do the clap with the hands, and that was fantastic, but they LET US SING one complete verse of the song! I never noticed they did that in the past or in the future! Even Paul said something about this! I enjoyed so much Cosmos Rockin', a great song live. And again all the stadium clap their hands and sing along with We Will Rock You. It was a incredible night. One of my friends told me that during God Save The Queen, Paul asked something to Brian, and this responsed with a negative. We could live that night thanks to the reunion of Paul with Brian and Roger. (again, sorry if my english is not the best) |
| Bo Alex 03.06.2011 20:14 |
Sir GH wrote: mike hunt wrote: Just because he doesn't think pauls voice fits the Queen sound doesn't make him close-minded. ===================== Correct. But he did say that Paul Rodgers sucks for the sole reason that he felt he doesn't fit the Queen sound. That's a very different statement, and the very definition of closed-minded. There's more to Paul than what he did with Queen, but some of these people are so obsessed with Queen to the point that they'll hate anyone who sings Queen songs in a new way. Not liking his interpretations is one thing, but to hate the artist in his totality for this reason is another. I bet most of these Queen fans who hate Paul probably can't even name a single song of his that wasn't in the QPR setlists. I guess it just saddens me that so many people are full of hate when it comes to music. Politics and religion are supposed to divide us, not music ... it should unite us. To actually hate a person who makes a living off entertaining people and hasn't done harm to anyone ... I just can't understand the mentality. I didn't want to be rude or close-minded, but I just wanted to express my opinion. I respect guys like Sir GH and Pittrek a lot, without knowing nothing personal about them. We are just talking about music, mere musical tastes. It's not something objective. It's pure subjectivity. I don't think i'm close-minded at all. I just don't like Paul Rodgers. It's just what I'm think. To me, he sucks, in every way. Even the way he is dressed. That doesn't mean he universally sucks. It's just musical tastes, not Science. I can't even find the words to express my idea. My English sucks too. I don't care if he is a blues singer or if he like to eat another human beings. In my point of view, in my subjective experience of the world, he simply sucks. That's all. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks that way. Excuse for my English. Cheers. |
| hugo123 06.06.2011 18:34 |
This probably is a stupid question, but what's this fall out between roger and PR you guys were talking about? |
| Holly2003 06.06.2011 18:49 |
hugo123 wrote: This probably is a stupid question, but what's this fall out between roger and PR you guys were talking about? ------------------------------------------------------------------ They're fighting over who gets the letter D in their surname. |
| dowens 06.06.2011 20:07 |
I'd be interested in knowing about the fall-out between everyone too. I don't mind Paul, but I wish Queen would just tour and make records with Roger and Brian. They could cover the vocals themselves and it would be great. My favorite parts of the Queen+Paul Rodgers DVD's are Roger singing with Brian anyway. |
| Matias Merçeauroix 07.06.2011 11:12 |
FUCK PAUL RODGERS He's the worst choice to ever sing Queen songs, second to myself. Is Brian May a fucking idiot? Even Tom Chaplin, who is not what you'd call AN AMAAAZING SINGER, did a pretty damn good job on It's a Hard Life when they played in that stupid gala. The only person who can fuck a queen song up is Paul CUNT Rodgers. NOT TO MENTION, that with Paul Rodgers, we only manage to listen to Brian's stupid rock songs and maybe some pretty boring versions of AOBTD and IWTBF (not that Queen with Freddie had done good live versions of those songs either). But most importantly PLEASE NO MORE COSMOS ROCKS!!!!!!! FUCKING BRIAN! |
| john bodega 07.06.2011 11:18 |
"The only person who can fuck a queen song up is Paul CUNT Rodgers" You're forgetting Axl Rose. |
| Zodiacal_light 07.06.2011 12:30 |
Immediately after the split, Roger was on Breakfast TV and was asked who he thought was the best front man they had teamed up with. Roger said " George michael". Now this was right after TCR tour. A major kick in the teeth for Rodgers. As i said before, for me it was Roger who had a major problem with Paul. |
| catqueen 07.06.2011 12:31 |
I'm not a PR fan, BUT if it means a chance to hear them again, i would welcome it with immense joy :D |
| Holly2003 07.06.2011 13:10 |
Zodiacal_light wrote: Immediately after the split, Roger was on Breakfast TV and was asked who he thought was the best front man they had teamed up with. Roger said " George michael". Now this was right after TCR tour. A major kick in the teeth for Rodgers. As i said before, for me it was Roger who had a major problem with Paul. That's hardly a controversial opinion though. A Queen + George Michael album/tour would've made a lot more sense than teaming up with a man who has only ever sing simple blues-rock and who is therefore unsuited to sing the more pop or theatrical-orientated songs from the Queen catalogue. As for a supposed bust up, gossip aside, I haven't seen any evidence of any major disagreement. |
| happykindaguy 07.06.2011 21:59 |
Well it seems Australia must be the arse end of the world because they say they did a world tour but i dont recall them ever being down under. Maybe now cos the dollar is so high they might tour but wont hold my breathe. |
| Fone Bone 08.06.2011 06:28 |
Well Paul certainly relied a lot on lyric monitors, was reluctant to rehearse more Queen songs along the way (he botched One Vision and that was it) and his phrasing was awkward at times. Jacky summed it up competently : "I thought he could have made more effort to learn the songs, and perhaps how to actually phrase them in some cases". Yet, two solid tours, some really nice gigs, and the most excitement we had since Made In Heaven is no small thing. You can count on one hand the singers capable of handling an entire set of Queen songs. Tom Chaplin, whom I really like, is not one of them. George Michael, we'll never know. |
| e-man 08.06.2011 06:39 |
Fone Bone wrote: Well Paul certainly relied a lot on lyric monitors, was reluctant to rehearse more Queen songs along the way (he botched One Vision and that was it) and his phrasing was awkward at times. Jacky summed it up competently : "I thought he could have made more effort to learn the songs, and perhaps how to actually phrase them in some cases". Yet, two solid tours, some really nice gigs, and the most excitement we had since Made In Heaven is no small thing. You can count on one hand the singers capable of handling an entire set of Queen songs. Tom Chaplin, whom I really like, is not one of them. George Michael, we'll never know. I think one of the things which made it work was that Paul didn't sound like Freddie at all, including his phrasing of the songs. There's a quote somwhere from Brian where he said it was like hearing some of the songs for the first time when Paul sang them. And I had the same feeling several times as well. LIke it or not, he made them sound like it was Paul Rodgers singing. I for one, am glad. I don't think GM could handle an entire Queen set by a mile. People go on about STL from the Tribute, and yes, it was a superb performance. But his 39 and TATDOOL were not nearly as good imo. (though still enjoyable) |
| e-man 08.06.2011 06:45 |
Zodiacal_light wrote: Immediately after the split, Roger was on Breakfast TV and was asked who he thought was the best front man they had teamed up with. Roger said " George michael". Now this was right after TCR tour. A major kick in the teeth for Rodgers. As i said before, for me it was Roger who had a major problem with Paul. I distinctly remember this as well. I thought it was weird and awkward to say the least (although it was around the time of Absolute Greatest, and not right after TCR) but during the last 3 years, on the few occasion that Paul has been mentioned, it is Roger who has been complimentary. (there is one US radio interview with Brian, around the launch of his stereo photo book, where he actually praises Paul and what they did - even brings up the TCR album by his own volition. But apart from this, Brian has been strangely quiet about the QPR years and seems to almost avoid the topic.) |
| GratefulFan 08.06.2011 12:08 |
Fone Bone wrote: Well Paul certainly relied a lot on lyric monitors, was reluctant to rehearse more Queen songs along the way (he botched One Vision and that was it) and his phrasing was awkward at times. Jacky summed it up competently : "I thought he could have made more effort to learn the songs, and perhaps how to actually phrase them in some cases". Yet, two solid tours, some really nice gigs, and the most excitement we had since Made In Heaven is no small thing. You can count on one hand the singers capable of handling an entire set of Queen songs. Tom Chaplin, whom I really like, is not one of them. George Michael, we'll never know. ============================== I do understand the criticisms of Paul Rodgers that are leveled on more than one front. But I still think that Brian's and Roger's instincts on this were bang on right. It needed to be roughly a marriage of equals with somebody with his own independent rock and roll street cred, and most importantly it needed to be somebody who was definitively not Freddie Mercury. Fred was so talented and so unique that virtually everybody who tries to step into the shoes that has a timbre or tone or flick of the write that recalls him in any way comes off as automatically inferior. Paul Rodgers isn't going to make anybody think of Fred, and I think that's a big part of why it worked. Funky phrasing and all. |
| AlbaNo1 08.06.2011 15:49 |
I cant understand the fascination with George Michael as a guest lead singer of Queen songs. He has two modes - pure dancey pop or ballads. Queen live was usually a lot more straight forward a rock performance than the complexity and range of the records so Id have to take someone who was in Free over someone who was in Wham. George Michael would be more suited to being in the musical . |
| Holly2003 08.06.2011 16:21 |
AlbaNo1 wrote: I cant understand the fascination with George Michael as a guest lead singer of Queen songs. He has two modes - pure dancey pop or ballads. Queen live was usually a lot more straight forward a rock performance than the complexity and range of the records so Id have to take someone who was in Free over someone who was in Wham. George Michael would be more suited to being in the musical . Right. That explains why he sung Somebody to Love so badly at the Tribute Concert. lol |
| Fone Bone 09.06.2011 06:29 |
@ e-man & Grateful Fan I don't disagree guys. Paul Rodgers had the cred to front this project indeed, and he's proven good enough a singer to deliver a entire set of Queen songs, which is why it was a very good choice in the first place. I'm just saying he could have put in that extra mile of work by knowing the songs better, and by learning new ones along the way. On the other hand, Adam Lambert or Robbie would have been a disgrace. GM, then again, did a great job on STL but would he have outperformed Paul Rodgers on a two world tour course ? Not so sure, so let's be grateful for Paul "Hmmmm wanna rock and roll tonight baby" Rodgers ;-P |
| Soundfreak 09.06.2011 08:12 |
Freddie was unique and had a vocal range and also a stylistic range as wide as hardly anybody else has. The Tribute was proof enough how many big singers had problems stepping in his shoes even just for one song. So any choice of a singer would have been a compromise. And Paul Rodgers definitely was a good compromise. People who were there have seen it and they had a very entertaining evening. Probably the last chance of a Queen concert with as much original members as possible. Those who still cry out against him - and it's already years ago and absolutely pointless - have not been there and definitely would have complained about anybody.... |
| AlbaNo1 10.06.2011 15:31 |
Holly2003 wrote: AlbaNo1 wrote: I cant understand the fascination with George Michael as a guest lead singer of Queen songs. He has two modes - pure dancey pop or ballads. Queen live was usually a lot more straight forward a rock performance than the complexity and range of the records so Id have to take someone who was in Free over someone who was in Wham. George Michael would be more suited to being in the musical . Right. That explains why he sung Somebody to Love so badly at the Tribute Concert. lol Im not saying he wouldnt be good on some of the songs , but could you imagine him turning his hand to We Will Rock You (fast version) or Sheer Heart Attack? And to be honest while he hit and held all the notes at the Tribute I dont find has voice to have that much character. |
| The Real Wizard 10.06.2011 15:50 |
To each their own I guess. I find George Michael's voice to be one of the most rich and expressive in pop music ever. |
| tonyyy 11.06.2011 07:13 |
I hope they make another European tour! Tony My webpage: link |
| Vocal harmony 12.06.2011 13:00 |
I thought the comments made by Paul Rodgers were interesting. I read an interview with Brian some time ago in which he said that by the time the Queen+PR tour had reached south America they decided that they should call it a day to save their friendship! It's interesting in this thread, that most people seem to be pointing the finger at PR or BM. A few facts no one here seems to be aware of are... During the first tour there was a point where Roger Taylor wasn't happy with Paul's input. At some of those shows, Paul was leaving the stage for Brian or Roger to become the vocalist, not a planned part of the show. During the cosmos tour PR was spending almost no time with 'The Queen Organisation' back stage. At a party after one of the London shows he and his wife left immediately after thee show. Queen had Jeff Scott Soto on standby in case PR decided not to go on, or asked to leave! Paul Rogers has never spent long periods of time, apart from Bad Co, in bands. I don't think being part of something bigger than him is really his thing. I think he is aware that Queen may be thinking about some live work again. The idea of playing some big shows may be appealing. The only show Queen will play this year will be a private PMT gig in September. Hopefully there will be a tour next year. My guess is that Jeff Scott Soto will be ton the short list. He has the range and knowlege to cope with the songs and the size of the audiences Queen play to. |
| Pim Derks 13.06.2011 04:48 |
I really doubt they had Jeff Scott Soto on stand-by. |
| Holly2003 13.06.2011 05:00 |
Vocal harmony wrote: I read an interview with Brian some time ago in which he said that by the time the Queen+PR tour had reached south America they decided that they should call it a day to save their friendship! During the first tour there was a point where Roger Taylor wasn't happy with Paul's input. At some of those shows, Paul was leaving the stage for Brian or Roger to become the vocalist, not a planned part of the show. Queen had Jeff Scott Soto on standby in case PR decided not to go on, or asked to leave! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you provide any sources for this info? |
| e-man 13.06.2011 05:16 |
Pim Derks wrote: I really doubt they had Jeff Scott Soto on stand-by. JSS was present at ALOT of the gigs on the 2005 tour. Certainly too many gigs to merely check it out |
| Pingfah 14.06.2011 07:16 |
BootlegsOnYour wrote: I HOPE SEE ONE LAST "REUNION TOUR" WITH: BRIAN, ROGER AND JOHN!!! ROGER ON VOCALS AND RUFUS ON DRUMS _______________ What an absolutely horrifying idea. Roger was Queen's drummer, not his son, what the hell is the point of him singing? If I go to see Queen, there's only one place I want to see Roger Taylor. Besides, the guy needs a lyric sheet to remember half of Queen's lead vocals, even the ones he wrote himself. |
| Vocal harmony 14.06.2011 17:27 |
Holly 2003, Yes I can provide proof of where this information came from. However I choose not to. The info is quite widely known within the companies and people involved in the Q+PR Tours. I would be surprised if they choose to work together with PR in a long term project again, a one off gig maybe, but unlikely. Jeff Scott Soto is on very good terms with BM and RT, and is a genuine Queen fan too. I believe that he has a voice better suited to a wider range of Queen songs than Paul Rogers. Pim Derks, JSS was either present at the venue or in the same city as the show for two thirds of the tour. That should stop you doubting. |
| Holly2003 15.06.2011 01:58 |
There's a tribe in Africa -- I think in Ethiopia -- that claims to be in possession of the Ark of the Covenant. However, they keep it in a temple/compound which only a priest can enter. No one else is allowed in and so there's no way to verify anything. I bet, if I asked, they'd tell me they also have a parchment with the reasons why Queen + Paul Rodgers split up, but it's inside that temple so I'll have to take their word for it. |
| peter j 15.06.2011 07:46 |
i really hope queen and paul rogers will tour again i went to the newcastle arena during the cosmos rocks tour what a great night it was i will never forget it.if this does happen i will be there for sure.please let it happen i think it would be great if john deacon would join in its such a shame not to see him for so long.see you soon hopefully,KEEP ON ROCKING!!!. |
| Cristi 05.07.2011 11:20 |
I sincerely hope not. I really hated what came of that collaboration. |
| Holly2003 05.07.2011 11:39 |
Cristi wrote: I sincerely hope not. I really hated what came of that collaboration. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Brian May or Roger Taylor! |