| ariel 695 25.05.2011 23:57 |
Does anyone else notice the similarity between "No one but you" link and John Lennon's "God" link |
| Soundfreak 26.05.2011 02:15 |
Probably no coincidence as Brian May used to play that particular Lennon song on his 93 Tour. And he didn't get the permission to use it on his live-album. |
| john bodega 26.05.2011 03:21 |
Yeah, Yoko blocked the release of it. She was within her moral rights (apparently that's a thing, although it's been a while since I did copyright class) to block the cover, although I'm still not sure why she felt that way. |
| bigV 26.05.2011 04:50 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Yeah, Yoko blocked the release of it. She was within her moral rights (apparently that's a thing, although it's been a while since I did copyright class) to block the cover, although I'm still not sure why she felt that way. ---- Yoko didn't block the release. Brian May (or his people) wrote the Lennon estate, asking for permission to use the song and the Lennon estate never replied. Yoko didn't actually deny permission, she just did not respond. V. |
| john bodega 26.05.2011 06:27 |
Yeah, but she's such a passive-aggressive bitch that it's practically the same as blocking it. |
| Soundfreak 26.05.2011 07:28 |
From what I have heard way back then the problem was, that Brian May changed the lyrics at the end from "Beatles" in "Queen", and also removed the "Yoko and me" line from the song. And that was the "no go" for the Lennon estate. |
| thomasquinn 32989 26.05.2011 07:34 |
bigV wrote: Zebonka12 wrote: Yeah, Yoko blocked the release of it. She was within her moral rights (apparently that's a thing, although it's been a while since I did copyright class) to block the cover, although I'm still not sure why she felt that way. ---- Yoko didn't block the release. Brian May (or his people) wrote the Lennon estate, asking for permission to use the song and the Lennon estate never replied. Yoko didn't actually deny permission, she just did not respond. V. ==== When it comes to formal requests like this (i.e. written requests by registered mail), not responding = denying permission. It's just the impolite way of denying permission. |
| malicedoom 26.05.2011 07:42 |
Forgive my ignorance on copyright, but how does that work anyway? He can play it live at his concert WITHOUT needing permission but needs permission to release it on an album, etc.? |
| Soundfreak 26.05.2011 10:00 |
You can play live any song you like. But when you record a song for a public release and you change the arrangement or the lyrics, then you need the permission of the writer. I think it's fair game. Imagine you write a song and someone turns it into something you did not intend - but it is labelled as your composition.... |
| master marathon runner 26.05.2011 12:58 |
Full respect to Yoko, she's had 31 years of indescribable pain, she's in charge of the legacy, that's the end of it. Master marathon runner |
| The Real Wizard 26.05.2011 18:26 |
^ what he said. |
| bigV 27.05.2011 04:20 |
master marathon runner wrote: Full respect to Yoko, she's had 31 years of indescribable pain, she's in charge of the legacy, that's the end of it. Master marathon runner Yeah.... but she broke up The Beatles. The bitch! V. |
| master marathon runner 27.05.2011 04:27 |
bigV wrote: master marathon runner wrote: Full respect to Yoko, she's had 31 years of indescribable pain, she's in charge of the legacy, that's the end of it. Master marathon runner Yeah.... but she broke up The Beatles. The bitch! V. . .That's another forum. Master marathon runner |
| Soundfreak 27.05.2011 04:35 |
Yeah.... but she broke up The Beatles. The bitch! <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< One of the biggest errors in rock history. She did not break them up. If she had been the reason, both Ringo and George would not have carried on recording with John and Yoko... The story is much deeper - but this is the wrong forum.... |
| brENsKi 27.05.2011 09:39 |
absolutely right! she didn't break up the beatles....she was one of several factors that helped to highlight cracks that were already there the relationship between lennon/mccartney had not been great for about 3 yrs some of the contributions to the breakdown were: the influence of non-band members - wives/girlfriends friends with ready supplies of mindbending and paranoia-inducing drugs management choices Klein rather than Eastman george and ringo getting sick of the arguments - and disappearing (on skiing trips and such like) lennon's heroin addiction resulting in his invisibility for huge chunks of time but the overriding key nail was Klein's near-bankrupting them...that was the final nail...and the Macca's need to break up the band to prevent them going broke (listen to the abbey road medley - it's all there) if you've watched the Let It Be rehearsals film you can actually see the band breaking up they had worked together almost continually for ten yrs....george was developing as a writer and wanted more room to express himself, lennon and mcacrtney were heading in different directions musically and were sick of each other fact is, that as much as i have always love the beatles...lennon mccartney (and those they trusted) behaved like arseholes at the one time in the band's existence when it could least be afforded the one's who came out of it with their self-respect intact were George and Ringo |
| Isle0fRed 27.05.2011 20:46 |
brENsKi wrote: absolutely right! she didn't break up the beatles....she was one of several factors that helped to highlight cracks that were already there the relationship between lennon/mccartney had not been great for about 3 yrs some of the contributions to the breakdown were: the influence of non-band members - wives/girlfriends friends with ready supplies of mindbending and paranoia-inducing drugs management choices Klein rather than Eastman george and ringo getting sick of the arguments - and disappearing (on skiing trips and such like) lennon's heroin addiction resulting in his invisibility for huge chunks of time but the overriding key nail was Klein's near-bankrupting them...that was the final nail...and the Macca's need to break up the band to prevent them going broke (listen to the abbey road medley - it's all there) if you've watched the Let It Be rehearsals film you can actually see the band breaking up they had worked together almost continually for ten yrs....george was developing as a writer and wanted more room to express himself, lennon and mcacrtney were heading in different directions musically and were sick of each other fact is, that as much as i have always love the beatles...lennon mccartney (and those they trusted) behaved like arseholes at the one time in the band's existence when it could least be afforded the one's who came out of it with their self-respect intact were George and Ringo Another factor was Brian Epstien death and the lack of his presences during 'The White Album' sessions then again you could always joke that the fab four broke up cause of the New Maccer as he 'died' in a car crash during Sgt Pepper |
| emrabt 28.05.2011 01:24 |
lennon and mcacrtney were heading in different directions musically and were sick of each other. ================== I think this is the main reason, they just grew apart, It happens, normally to really close friends or siblings. |
| Isle0fRed 28.05.2011 03:31 |
The Beatles are the prime example 1. Why going in business/ working with you friend isn't a good thing 2. Why band members are often renowned to hate each other |
| rhyeking 28.05.2011 09:38 |
Further to IsleOfRed's thoughts, by extension, Queen is a prime example of: 1) The whole being greater than the sum of its parts. Your mileage may vary, but in the end it appears the band was known to argue democratically in the studio and the result was top-notch work. I think it's fair to say the arguing was a necessary part of the process that kept the standards high. Certainly their solo careers never matched the commercial success of the band. 2) Take a break but don't break up. By the early '80s, after Hot space and its tour, Queen took its first real extended break in about 10 years. No big announcement, no public criticism of fellow band members, just them going off to do solo projects. They all wanted to try different things and were probably a little tired of the arguments and grueling tour schedules. The key was that they didn't end Queen, they just took a rest from it. Then they came back to Queen when they were ready. |