QueenZone discussion #1269604
2011 Remasters Wave 2 - BONUS TRACKS REVEALED???
| vonkeil 05.05.2011 05:00 |
Folks! Play.com has obvioulsy revealed the bonus tracks for the 2nd batch of the 2011 remasters: If these are the real trackslists, then we certainly can look forward for the releases!! News Of The World 1. Feelings Feelings (Take 10, July 1977) 2. Spread Your Wings (BBC Session, October 1977) 3. My Melancholy Blues (BBC Session, October 1977) 4. Sheer Heart Attack (Live in Paris, February 28 1979) 5. We Will Rock You (Fast) (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) Jazz 1. Fat Bottomed Girls (Single Version) 2. Bicycle Race (Instrumental) 3. Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) 4. Let Me Entertain You (Live in Montreal, November 1981) 5. Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) The Game 1. Save Me (Live in Montreal, November 1981) 2. A Human Body (B-Side) 3. Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) 4. It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) 5. Dragon Attack (Live at Milton Keynes Bowl, June 1982) Flash 1. Flash (Single Version) 2. The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) 3. The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) 4. Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! - February 1980) 5. Flash (Live in Montreal, November 1981) 6. The Hero (Live in Montreal, November 1981) Hot Space 1. Staying Power (Live at Milton Keynes Bowl, June 1982) 2. Soul Brother (B-Side) 3. Back Chat (Single Remix) 4. Action This Day (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) 5. Calling All Girls (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) |
| mr. stagger lee 05.05.2011 05:22 |
I just received an email from the following store - which has the same information... link |
| pittrek 05.05.2011 05:27 |
A boring mess. Again, just 2 interesting tracks |
| dysan 05.05.2011 05:31 |
Not too bad, but FFS what's with the live tracks from different eras? The whole 77 BBC session needs to come out and this is the perfect opportunity. The US Staying Power would've been good. Some interesting unreleased stuff there. Wave 3 should be amazing. |
| Holly2003 05.05.2011 05:33 |
No real logic to any of the bonus tracks but a few are more interestng than the first batch. I'd like to hear: Feelings Feelings (Take 10, July 1977) Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) ----> most interesting of all the bonus tracks so far Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! - February 1980) All the live versions are fine but should be included on proper, full live releases. |
| bigV 05.05.2011 05:34 |
As I wrote elsewhere - they could and SHOULD have released the 2000 Club Mix of "Under Pressure". That's arguably the most interesting official remix of a Queen song and it still hasn't seen a CD release. Lost opportunity indeed... V. |
| vonkeil 05.05.2011 05:35 |
Back Chat (Single Remix) - - 7" or 12" ?? |
| Vali 05.05.2011 05:55 |
Holly2003 wrote: Feelings Feelings (Take 10, July 1977) Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) ----> most interesting of all the bonus tracks so far Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! - February 1980) / / / / / these are the real reasons to buy this 2nd batch, for many of us. This is the stuff we've been craving for years. As long as they keep including material like this instead of new a capella or vocal+guitar mixes, etc etc, I'll be satisfied. I don't even mind the inclusion again and again of material from MK and now Montreal. It was predictable. But this new move wasn't. So, at last, I can show a thumb up !! The material listed above is the prove of how glorious the long-awaited anthology could be. It is also clear that all the BBC stuff will be packed together sooner or later for a proper release. |
| ole-the-first 05.05.2011 06:26 |
Better than first 5 albums bonus tracks, because there's even some stuff I never heard about (demos/alternate versions of Don't Stop Me Now, Football Fight, Dreamer's Ball etc). But actually it could be much better. |
| Kacio 05.05.2011 06:28 |
Me with this parties remastered interested : Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) The rest, unfortunately, did not surprise me ... I hope the last batch reamsterów from The Works Made In Heaven gave something really unknown ... something really cool, and not just some vocal & guitar |
| bigV 05.05.2011 06:29 |
vonkeil wrote: Back Chat (Single Remix) - - 7" or 12" ?? ----- Most probably 7" (Disclaimer: that's just an educated guess, I don't have any inside information). I'm guessing that they are saving the 12" (extended) mixes for a special release. V. |
| Queenman!! 05.05.2011 06:32 |
This first batch wasn't to interessting .. these release looks a bit better! However.... Hot Space 1. Staying Power (Live at Milton Keynes Bowl, June 1982) (again?? live at the bowl cd???) 2. Soul Brother (B-Side) ( already available) 3. Back Chat (Single Remix) ( could be nice.) 4. Action This Day (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) ( NEW!!!!) 5. Calling All Girls (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) (AGAIN?? already on the bowl DVD??) So really one new song) Shame on QP |
| epson 05.05.2011 06:41 |
some interesting tracks but it is missing- It's Late (BBC Version). I'll still be buying them anyway. |
| Ron 05.05.2011 06:50 |
Am happy with these bonus tracks! 200% improvement when compared to batch 1! |
| dysan 05.05.2011 07:23 |
Generally good feedback. I think I'm more excited by these than the last batch now. A shame it hints they have listened to the fans and added unreleased takes - an opportunity missed for the first batch now. |
| pestgrid 05.05.2011 07:27 |
Just looking at the list of extra songs for the next release it looks as if queen are just teasing us.....a mixture of unheard tracks, Live tracks in great quality, live tracks we have already got in great quality and tracks we have and therefore havent the need to be on their.....but remember these remasters of these albums are for both the newcomers and die hard fans, so a mixture of songs most of us have heard and have in other collections will be there, its just a shame their not releasing any dates for this long overdue Queen Anthology....I got sick of waiting I created my own for each album,.. Contents Disc One - CD Digital Remaster of Original Master from Multi Track Tapes Disc Two - DVD Original Master from Vinyl recorded at 192hz 24bits. Newly produced visual accompanying audio from unseen material of the sessions. Disc Three - CD Instrumentals,Singles and remixes from the Album Disc Four - CD Rarities - Demos and B-sides from album sessions Disc Five - CD Rarities - Early Versions of songs and Out takes from sessions Disc Six - CD Live versions of the Songs handpicked from every Queen Concert. Song picked not on audio quality but on best performance of song. Along with any interviews in audio format... 10 releases (two are Live), 7 of the releases contain two studio albums that compliment each other and are packaged in a leather bound book, one album has a seperate release....in the book is artwork concept photos and any relevant print for that studio session for that album....also included album covers from around the world..... ....anyone interested in finding out details can email me at Pestgrid@aol.com |
| dysan 05.05.2011 08:37 |
I was thinking that was a bit over the top - but if each set contained 2 albums (is that what you meant?) I could see that working nicely. If clumsily. |
| Rick 05.05.2011 08:48 |
Another live version of Action This Day! Great! I really hope Roger's vocal can be heard well enough. I think they did a pretty bad job with the MK version. |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 09:00 |
This........SUCKS!!!!!!!! QPL? Why can't you get your fucking heads out of your asses!!!! I sure hope this isn't the final choice of tracks. Action this Day from Tokyo 1982....are you kidding me? That's the worst version of the song and there's nothing surprising on any of these tracks!!!! Please tell me this is a bad dream. |
| JamesCore88 05.05.2011 09:41 |
For someone else it might be interesting but bonus tracks from Hot Space IS NOT interesting at all, for me of course... By the way, Back Chat (Single Remix) will be from 7'' SP release I guess (because we have it on the Singles Box Set -))) |
| dave76 05.05.2011 09:54 |
could you show us your anthology listing of what you included? |
| JamesCore88 05.05.2011 10:05 |
It's official: link |
| rhyeking 05.05.2011 10:17 |
I, too, just got the email and the bonus track lists. As with the first 5, there are at least a few tracks on each I'm really excited about. Mostly, it's the live tracks from released concerts (Milton Keynes, Montreal...) that don't do a whole lot for me, but I'll add them to the collection. Naturally, the demos/outtakes are far more my cup of tea: NOTW Feelings Feelings(Take 10, July 1977) - Great! Spread Your Wings (BBC Session, October 1977) - Good to have! My Melancholy Blues (BBC Session, October 1977) - Good to have! Sheer Heart Attack (Live in Paris, February 28 1979) - Okay (is this from Live Killers...anyone?) We Will Rock You (Fast) (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) - Okay, I think I have this on the VHS Jazz 1. Fat Bottomed Girls (Single Version) - No surprise, but already have it 2. Bicycle Race (Instrumental) - Probably will be cool, like the SSOR, TYMD and YMBF instrumentals 3. Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) - Great! 4. Let Me Entertain You (Live in Montreal, November 1981) - Got it on the actual live album 5. Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) - Great! The Game: 1. Save Me (Live in Montreal, November 1981) - Got it 2. A Human Body (B-Side) - No surprise, but saves me getting the Singles Collection to get it remastered! 3. Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) - Great! 4. It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) - REALLY Great! 5. Dragon Attack (Live at Milton Keynes Bowl, June 1982) - Got It Flash Gordon: 1. Flash (Single Version) - No surprise 2. The Hero (October 1980… Revisited) - Great! 3. The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) - Great! 4. Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! -February 1980) - Great! 5. Flash (Live in Montreal, November 1981) - Got it! 6. The Hero (Live in Montreal, November 1981) - Got it! Hot Space: 1. Staying Power (Live at Milton Keynes Bowl, June 1982) - Got it 2. Soul Brother (B-Side) - No surprise, but good to have remastered on CD 3. Back Chat (Single Remix) - No surprise 4. Action This Day (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) - Okay 5. Calling All Girls (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) - Okay, but already have it from the MK DVD (photo gallery track) |
| The Real Wizard 05.05.2011 11:14 |
rhyeking wrote: "Sheer Heart Attack (Live in Paris, February 28 1979) - Okay (is this from Live Killers...anyone?)" Nope, the Live Killers version is unaccounted for. The video of the Paris version has circulated for years, and it is really badass - Brian breaks a string half way through and makes noises for the rest of the song ... Queen and punk unite. It'll be great to hear this in top quality. "We Will Rock You (Fast) (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) - Okay, I think I have this on the VHS" Nope, this was cut from the official release. I don't know what some of you guys are complaining about - this is spectacular. There are a dozen interesting tracks in here. They could throw in Freddie Mercury's ashes as a bonus feature and you guys would still be whining about their colour. |
| Wiley 05.05.2011 11:33 |
Great extras! An improvement on the first batch. Have you noticed how QP usually has a crappy first batch and then improves on following releases? Another example that comes to mind is GVH1 vs GVH2. Sometimes I wished they would release batches backwards so we would get a kick ass release from the 70s. Only track I missed was Staying Power's 12" remix from the U.S. |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 11:57 |
Sir GH wrote: rhyeking wrote: "Sheer Heart Attack (Live in Paris, February 28 1979) - Okay (is this from Live Killers...anyone?)" Nope, the Live Killers version is unaccounted for. The video of the Paris version has circulated for years, and it is really badass - Brian breaks a string half way through and makes noises for the rest of the song ... Queen and punk unite. It'll be great to hear this in top quality. "We Will Rock You (Fast) (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) - Okay, I think I have this on the VHS" Nope, this was cut from the official release. I don't know what some of you guys are complaining about - this is spectacular. There are a dozen interesting tracks in here. They could throw in Freddie Mercury's ashes as a bonus feature and you guys would still be whining about their colour. Bob I'm very surprised to hear you out of all people saying this is spectacular. This is SHIT. What good does all this stuff from Rock Montreal and the Bowl do for us? And WWRY Fast and Action This Day from 11/3? Why would they take any songs from that gig when they can take us stuff from Hammy 1979 for example and they took NOTHING from there. Honestly, who do they think they are making happy with these tracks? It just seems like they're too lazy to give us good stuff or they just have no idea what most people want. And we're not really asking for much so don't be ridiculous with that ashes comment. I'll were asking is for stuff we HAVEN'T heard either at all or in top quality....like stuff from the UK 1978 tour or Hammersmith 1979 or even Houston...If they're gonna pick live versions of songs, why do they pick it from what we already have? To me it doesn't make sense. Out of all of them, Paris's Sheer Heart Attack is the most interesting but still not anything of what I expected. Let's hope for some good bonus videos. But seriously, spectacular? This is even worse than the first wave of bonus tracks. |
| rhyeking 05.05.2011 12:06 |
Sir GH wrote: rhyeking wrote: "Sheer Heart Attack (Live in Paris, February 28 1979) - Okay (is this from Live Killers...anyone?)" Nope, the Live Killers version is unaccounted for. The video of the Paris version has circulated for years, and it is really badass - Brian breaks a string half way through and makes noises for the rest of the song ... Queen and punk unite. It'll be great to hear this in top quality. "We Will Rock You (Fast) (Live in Tokyo, November 1982) - Okay, I think I have this on the VHS" Nope, this was cut from the official release. I don't know what some of you guys are complaining about - this is spectacular. There are a dozen interesting tracks in here. They could throw in Freddie Mercury's ashes as a bonus feature and you guys would still be whining about their colour. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Okay, that two more tracks I'm happy to have. All in all, I'm happy with the selection, though there are other tracks I'd have chosen and maybe fewer live tracks (just my taste, I want to hear more studio out-takes). Cool Cat (with Bowie) There Must Be More To Life Than This (Queen Version) Sex Show (Demo) I Go Crazy (Hot Space Instrumental) |
| ole-the-first 05.05.2011 12:09 |
jamster1111 wrote:This is even worse than the first wave of bonus tracks. ========== If 8 previously unknown/rumoured recordings from 2nd part reissues are worse than nothing really new on first 5 bonus EPs for you, you should have a VERY rich collection. |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 12:16 |
ole-the-first wrote: jamster1111 wrote:This is even worse than the first wave of bonus tracks. ========== If 8 previously unknown/rumoured recordings from 2nd part reissues are worse than nothing really new on first 5 bonus EPs for you, you should have a VERY rich collection. Yes but the live tracks they chose were crap. And if they were gonna choose rare studio stuff, they could have at least chosen Silver Salmon. |
| silver_salmon 05.05.2011 12:34 |
Sir GH, I think that this is better than before, neither espectacular nor awful...but i am more excited to hear something new from DT album with Mike Mangini hehehe. Those guys never deserve to the fans. |
| Hangman2011 05.05.2011 12:58 |
It seems to me there is one reason that not in one reissue not include silver salmon I hope I'm wrong, there is one reason, author not Freddie, not Brian ot John or Roger, author Staffel Tim from Smile |
| The Real Wizard 05.05.2011 13:09 |
jamster1111 wrote: >Why would they take any songs from that gig when they can take us stuff from Hammy 1979 for example and they took NOTHING from there. Because they don't have the multi-tracks. They want the bonus tracks to sound outstanding, and a stereo master isn't good enough. >Honestly, who do they think they are making happy with these tracks? Just about everyone, actually. 99% of the record-buying public will find most of these tracks to be new. They need to balance the hardcore fans with the general public, and I think they have achieved that balance perfectly with these releases. Just look at this: Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! - February 1980) This is the kind of stuff people have been begging to hear for years and years, and yet the same people complain because it's not enough. Hence the ashes comment. Some people can just never be pleased. |
| GinjaNinja 05.05.2011 13:50 |
I agree with SirGH. Some of these bonuses sound great! In the band's eyes, we *SHOULDN'T & DON'T* have all the demos, live tracks and BBC recordings that have just been bootlegged. Also, all of these things will be in FAR GREATER quality than we've heard before. I can see about 15 things on the list that are going to be new or at least substantial quality upgrades to what we already have. That ain't half bad considering they've got to cater for everyone with these bonus EPs. So they included a couple of previously released live tracks. Who cares? No-one is forcing you to buy these. If you only want 1 or 2 bonus tracks, get 'em from iTunes. The Flash Gordon bonuses are much more interesting than I expected, but the Hot Space EP looks a little lacklustre IMO. |
| Rick 05.05.2011 14:08 |
I agree with Bob. A very good selection indeed. Don't forget Action This Day from Tokyo 1982. That one is new as well! |
| Hangman2011 05.05.2011 14:26 |
I so understood that my words are ignored very cultural community |
| Rick 05.05.2011 14:43 |
Hangman2011 wrote: I so understood that my words are ignored very cultural community ----------------------- One can't react to every member, unless one has 24/7 free time. What makes you think Silver Salmon is a Staffel song? I have never heard this before. |
| bigV 05.05.2011 14:55 |
I've heard this rumour before as well. Never paid much attention. Honestly, there's no way we could know for sure, is there? V. |
| bigV 05.05.2011 15:02 |
By the way, both QueenVault and QueenPedia list the track as "Written by Tim Staffel", so maybe... V. |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 15:18 |
Sir GH wrote: jamster1111 wrote: >Why would they take any songs from that gig when they can take us stuff from Hammy 1979 for example and they took NOTHING from there. Because they don't have the multi-tracks. They want the bonus tracks to sound outstanding, and a stereo master isn't good enough. >Honestly, who do they think they are making happy with these tracks? Just about everyone, actually. 99% of the record-buying public will find most of these tracks to be new. They need to balance the hardcore fans with the general public, and I think they have achieved that balance perfectly with these releases. Just look at this: Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! - February 1980) This is the kind of stuff people have been begging to hear for years and years, and yet the same people complain because it's not enough. Hence the ashes comment. Some people can just never be pleased. I hardly believe they don't have the multitracks. if they don't, than why did they release Now I'm Here and I'm In Love With my Car from that gig? I'm sure they're just using excuses. But then again, they may be just saving all this great stuff for a live album...but i doubt it. Ok studio wise, there a pretty good choices, but live wise, it sucks...the only good track is SHA from Paris. Action This Day from Tokyo 1982 is a stupid choice because that was one of the worst performances of the song. |
| pogor1 05.05.2011 16:02 |
and now let's see what we have for Tokyo 1982(i'm talking about professional recordings) : old VHS: 01 Now I'm Here (6:56) 02 Medley (Put Out The Fire, Dragon Attack, Now I'm Here [Reprise]) (6:18) 03 Love Of My Life (4:01) 04 Save Me (4:10) 05 Brian May Guitar Solo (5:07) 06 Under Pressure (3:36) 07Crazy Little Thing Called Love (5:04) 08 Bohemian Rhapsody (5:32) 09Tie Your Mother Down (3:59) 10 Teo Torriate (4:26) 11 We Will Rock You (2:23) 12 We Are The Champions (3:38) 13 God Save The Queen (1:20) Bowl bonus DVD : 01 calling all girls and now it's going to be 2 more tracks: WWRY and Action this Day... I think that's fantastic because we'll have almost complete version of the last 1982 gig!! |
| bigV 05.05.2011 16:39 |
It would have been much better if they'd released the show in its entirety on DVD, but that's the way the story goes... V. |
| shamar 05.05.2011 17:28 |
OK. So we've got "Fellings " TAKE 10 ?! So where's " Fel like" ?! sorry I forgot we got " SB " "SP", BC" insteed " Wasted... again |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 17:35 |
pogor1 wrote: and now let's see what we have for Tokyo 1982(i'm talking about professional recordings) : old VHS: 01 Now I'm Here (6:56) 02 Medley (Put Out The Fire, Dragon Attack, Now I'm Here [Reprise]) (6:18) 03 Love Of My Life (4:01) 04 Save Me (4:10) 05 Brian May Guitar Solo (5:07) 06 Under Pressure (3:36) 07Crazy Little Thing Called Love (5:04) 08 Bohemian Rhapsody (5:32) 09Tie Your Mother Down (3:59) 10 Teo Torriate (4:26) 11 We Will Rock You (2:23) 12 We Are The Champions (3:38) 13 God Save The Queen (1:20) Bowl bonus DVD : 01 calling all girls and now it's going to be 2 more tracks: WWRY and Action this Day... I think that's fantastic because we'll have almost complete version of the last 1982 gig!! Yeah but too bad the concert isn't too great. |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 17:35 |
bigV wrote: It would have been much better if they'd released the show in its entirety on DVD, but that's the way the story goes... V. Go listen to Body Language from that concert and get back to me on releasing that show. |
| Gregsynth 05.05.2011 18:11 |
Very "sexy" version. Freddie's Eb5 at 2:33 is unbelievable! |
| The Real Wizard 05.05.2011 18:43 |
jamster1111 wrote: >I hardly believe they don't have the multitracks. if they don't, than why did they release Now I'm Here and I'm In Love With my Car from that gig? Those used the same video feed that was broadcast on TV 30 years ago, not multi-track audio. Besides, they're lossy videos, so they don't have to be at the quality standard of a CD release. >Action This Day from Tokyo 1982 is a stupid choice because that was one of the worst performances of the song. Assuming that Milton Keynes and Tokyo 82 are the only two multi-tracks they have from 1982, what previously unreleased live Hot Space track would have been better? The answer - this is likely all they have ! It was either Body Language or this, and I doubt they would release the former with that aforementioned vocal performance from Freddie, clearly exhausted at the end of the tour. The show does have many great moments, and Action This Day is still a great version. Sure, Freddie didn't hit the higher notes like he did at Milton Keynes, but for the millionth time ... THERE IS MORE TO LIVE PERFORMANCES THAN THE NOTES A SINGER HITS! I'll be happy to have it. In high quality it's going to sound great. |
| The Real Wizard 05.05.2011 18:49 |
pogor1 wrote: and now let's see what we have for Tokyo 1982(i'm talking about professional recordings) : old VHS: 01 Now I'm Here (6:56) 02 Medley (Put Out The Fire, Dragon Attack, Now I'm Here [Reprise]) (6:18) 03 Love Of My Life (4:01) 04 Save Me (4:10) 05 Brian May Guitar Solo (5:07) 06 Under Pressure (3:36) 07Crazy Little Thing Called Love (5:04) 08 Bohemian Rhapsody (5:32) 09Tie Your Mother Down (3:59) 10 Teo Torriate (4:26) 11 We Will Rock You (2:23) 12 We Are The Champions (3:38) 13 God Save The Queen (1:20) Bowl bonus DVD : 01 calling all girls and now it's going to be 2 more tracks: WWRY and Action this Day... I think that's fantastic because we'll have almost complete version of the last 1982 gig!! ============================= Yep, I agree. And there is also Flash and The Hero .. they were on the VHS and the Live At The Bowl DVD disc 2. |
| rhyeking 05.05.2011 19:14 |
Re: Silver Salmon by Tim Staffell I believe it was Tim himself who confirmed that he penned it, and it was either on his site (now defunct) or in an interview. I also recall Brian noting that, too, when talking about Smile tracks. |
| Gregsynth 05.05.2011 19:38 |
Apparently, Jamster1111 hasn't heard some of the North American versions (where Freddie cracks on random notes). That Tokorozawa version is actually pretty good (considering Freddie's voice was blown), plus the Japan versions have tighter instrumentation, and more creative note choices towards the end of the song. |
| jamster1111 05.05.2011 20:45 |
Sir GH wrote: jamster1111 wrote: >I hardly believe they don't have the multitracks. if they don't, than why did they release Now I'm Here and I'm In Love With my Car from that gig? Those used the same video feed that was broadcast on TV 30 years ago, not multi-track audio. Besides, they're lossy videos, so they don't have to be at the quality standard of a CD release. >Action This Day from Tokyo 1982 is a stupid choice because that was one of the worst performances of the song. Assuming that Milton Keynes and Tokyo 82 are the only two multi-tracks they have from 1982, what previously unreleased live Hot Space track would have been better? The answer - this is likely all they have ! It was either Body Language or this, and I doubt they would release the former with that aforementioned vocal performance from Freddie, clearly exhausted at the end of the tour. The show does have many great moments, and Action This Day is still a great version. Sure, Freddie didn't hit the higher notes like he did at Milton Keynes, but for the millionth time ... THERE IS MORE TO LIVE PERFORMANCES THAN THE NOTES A SINGER HITS! I'll be happy to have it. In high quality it's going to sound great. Milton Keynes and Tokyo are the only multitracks they have? Didn't they record EVERY single show? And what concerts DO they have the multitracks for? In other words, what concerts from the 70's and 80's are capable of being released?... So if they don't have them for Hammersmith 1979, does that mean that show is NEVER going to be released?...that's a disappointment that will never be able to see such great performances in better quality just because they have to have the multitracks. |
| MERQRY 05.05.2011 20:59 |
jamster1111 wrote: Sir GH wrote: jamster1111 wrote: >I hardly believe they don't have the multitracks. if they don't, than why did they release Now I'm Here and I'm In Love With my Car from that gig? Those used the same video feed that was broadcast on TV 30 years ago, not multi-track audio. Besides, they're lossy videos, so they don't have to be at the quality standard of a CD release. >Action This Day from Tokyo 1982 is a stupid choice because that was one of the worst performances of the song. Assuming that Milton Keynes and Tokyo 82 are the only two multi-tracks they have from 1982, what previously unreleased live Hot Space track would have been better? The answer - this is likely all they have ! It was either Body Language or this, and I doubt they would release the former with that aforementioned vocal performance from Freddie, clearly exhausted at the end of the tour. The show does have many great moments, and Action This Day is still a great version. Sure, Freddie didn't hit the higher notes like he did at Milton Keynes, but for the millionth time ... THERE IS MORE TO LIVE PERFORMANCES THAN THE NOTES A SINGER HITS! I'll be happy to have it. In high quality it's going to sound great. Milton Keynes and Tokyo are the only multitracks they have? Didn't they record EVERY single show? And what concerts DO they have the multitracks for? In other words, what concerts from the 70's and 80's are capable of being released?... So if they don't have them for Hammersmith 1979, does that mean that show is NEVER going to be released?...that's a disappointment that will never be able to see such great performances in better quality just because they have to have the multitracks. ------------------- The Hamm 79 soundboard (in the archive) is in relative good quality but the audience (like almost all the soundboards) track is barely audible (If you listen now i'm here from the People of kampuchea lp you will release of this cause you will to hear the audience track) I guess that Paul Mc Cartney has the Multitrack of the gig.... or at least he had it when the Lp (People of kampuchea) was released... Anyway since they release Keep yourself alive and the other de lane lea demos with the needle sound they could release Save me from the soundboard master... * The footage of hammersmith 79 is in Excellent Quality! Cheers! |
| pestgrid 05.05.2011 21:14 |
yes the anthology I have made have two studio albums in a leatherbound book, each album covers half the book and they are flipped, so once youve read the one side, flip it over and the other album is there..... |
| Daniel Nester 05.05.2011 21:40 |
It's Late single version would have been nice, too. |
| Daniel Nester 05.05.2011 21:45 |
I think this is a much more surprising batch of re-releases and bonus tracks than the first five. Psyched. Onto the box sets! |
| Sebastian 05.05.2011 23:21 |
Bonus tracks for Jazz, Game and Flash will be great. News and Hot Space - disappointing IMO. |
| tonyyy 06.05.2011 02:21 |
Nice! I'm really happy about this release. I thought it would have been worst. I especially like the bonus tracks of 1) NOTW 2) The Game and Jazz But I think I'll buy all of them... Tony My webpage: link |
| strangefrontier 06.05.2011 03:48 |
I think that there are some interesting tracks...we were always going to get live tracks as fillers! Nice to see the Live Killers multi tracks coming out the vault on SHA. I think some members need to appreciate that with such a back catalogue and body of unreleased work, tracks are not going to be issued from the vaults ad hoc on these remasters. In my opinion, the Queen catalogue remains the most important to have not had an anthology style release...but I think we are closer than we have ever been to seeing that happen. Remember that an anthology box has been mentioned as far back as 1990....I'm sure we can wait a year or so more until it finally happens. The remasters would be the natural first step moving to a new label and rerelease the bread and butter GH1 & 2 albums as has happened. I think we will get a live collection / box, a release to sweep up all the single mixes / extended mixes etc and then what we have all been waiting for...the unreleased / alternative versions in a seperate release. Don't be surprised though if they are released in album format again like the reissues and we end up having to buy the bloody original album again! I won't go in to what should and shouldn't be in there...that has been discussed at great lengths on the forums. I'm sure that there are a few more surprises to come....and let's not forget some more live dvd's / blu ray releases. Personally, I would love anything new form the 70's and in particular...Houston 77. Be patient my friends...a little bit longer....I think the wait could be nearly over! |
| bigV 06.05.2011 04:28 |
My real complaint is that they didn't use the second CD to its full potential or capacity. Why put 5-6 tracks on there when they could have put twice as much. That's a waste of CD space and cruel to the hardcore fans. V. |
| cmsdrums 06.05.2011 04:30 |
The one failry obvious omission is the BBC Sessions version of it's Late. Very odd, especially as that's such a good version too. To comment on the people who say that Hammy O 1979 gig will never be released cos they don't have the master audio tapes; I thnk that was always an issue, but I see it as less of one now as they were happy to release a MONO version of Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy on the ADATR reissue, and that sounds absolutely great, so I'm looking on the bright side and hoping that Brian is unclenching a bit on that front. |
| Sebastian 06.05.2011 04:44 |
One mono bonus track doesn't imply they'll release a full CD/DVD out of a stereo tape. |
| dysan 06.05.2011 04:54 |
I can't wait for these. Hopefully there will be some tasty sleevenotes this time. |
| Queenman!! 06.05.2011 05:21 |
Hi Jamster, Looks we are the only two who are a bit dissapointed. Could you compile a list what you loved to see as the bonus tracks and post it here? Thanks |
| ITSM 06.05.2011 06:48 |
Rhye King: Sex Show (Demo) ??? I've never heard/read about this one. What do you know about it? Thanks! |
| jammythedodger 06.05.2011 07:19 |
Wasn't Sex Party the improv they tried in Montreal before KYA? Brian mentioned it on the commentary on the BR |
| rhyeking 06.05.2011 09:31 |
On the Queen Rock Montreal commentary, as the band plays that bit right before "Keep Yourself Alive," Brian identifies it as a track Freddie wrote called "Sex Show". He says they even recorded a version of it. In the performance itself, Freddie sings the line "Sex show...!" just as they transition into KYA. I'm not sure which period "Sex Show" would date from, but my guess would be either the 1980 Game sessions or mid-1981 Hot Space session (I tend to lean toward the latter). It's funkiness seems to lend itself to where they were headed eventually with Hot Space. Those sessions would have given us the following tracks: Under Pressure Cool Cat Soul Brother There Must Be More To Life Than This (according to the FM box) Sex Show (or Sex Party) |
| joesilvey 06.05.2011 09:50 |
Overall, i'm pleased with the bonus content in wave 2... though i agree the previously released live tracks from Montreal and Milton Keynes are pointless. what i REALLY hoped to see (besides It's A Beautiful Day original idea - very happy about that) was Rock It (Prime Jive) with Freddie's vocals... |
| The Real Wizard 06.05.2011 10:43 |
cmsdrums wrote: they were happy to release a MONO version of Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy on the ADATR reissue, and that sounds absolutely great, so I'm looking on the bright side and hoping that Brian is unclenching a bit on that front. =============== Someone should tell Brian that The Who released Live At Kilburn 1977 on DVD, with mono sound ! And it is spectacular. |
| Hangman2011 06.05.2011 11:18 |
Sir GH wrote: cmsdrums wrote: they were happy to release a MONO version of Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy on the ADATR reissue, and that sounds absolutely great, so I'm looking on the bright side and hoping that Brian is unclenching a bit on that front. =============== Someone should tell Brian that The Who released Live At Kilburn 1977 on DVD, with mono sound ! And it is spectacular. ============================================================================================ did not you tried to say it, Brian? |
| pittrek 06.05.2011 11:33 |
I think we ALL would be happy if they would release the full Hammersmith Odeon '79 DVD with the mono sound captured by the video cameras |
| Hangman2011 06.05.2011 11:41 |
pittrek wrote: I think we ALL would be happy if they would release the full Hammersmith Odeon '79 DVD with the mono sound captured by the video cameras ================================================================================================ Most importantly, that QPL came out from a state of blissful idiocy and started to do thing which we want |
| ole-the-first 06.05.2011 12:54 |
Hangman2011 wrote: pittrek wrote: I think we ALL would be happy if they would release the full Hammersmith Odeon '79 DVD with the mono sound captured by the video cameras ================================================================================================ Most importantly, that QPL came out from a state of blissful idiocy and started to do thing which we want =================== Don't be overoptimistic, guys from Queen Productions will never release what we want. If even 2CD deluxe editions forced them to release only five useless bonus tracks per album, more stuff will be released only under pain of execution. |
| Over the Field 06.05.2011 13:51 |
Can't wait these! |
| Rick 06.05.2011 14:18 |
rhyeking wrote: On the Queen Rock Montreal commentary, as the band plays that bit right before "Keep Yourself Alive," Brian identifies it as a track Freddie wrote called "Sex Show". He says they even recorded a version of it. In the performance itself, Freddie sings the line "Sex show...!" just as they transition into KYA. I'm not sure which period "Sex Show" would date from, but my guess would be either the 1980 Game sessions or mid-1981 Hot Space session (I tend to lean toward the latter). It's funkiness seems to lend itself to where they were headed eventually with Hot Space. ------------------------- I never knew this. Then again, I don't have the Rock Montreal DVD. I always thought that part sounded a bit like Back Chat. Especially the guitar riff. |
| jamster1111 06.05.2011 14:57 |
pittrek wrote: I think we ALL would be happy if they would release the full Hammersmith Odeon '79 DVD with the mono sound captured by the video cameras Amen!!!! Finally someone who has some sense. |
| neokaden 06.05.2011 15:43 |
I would kill for that launch Hammy 79 complete DVD. |
| MadTheSwine73 06.05.2011 19:09 |
This is so much better than the first batch. Feelings Feelings (Take 10, July 1977) (Is it different to the one we know?) Don't Stop Me Now (With Long-Lost Guitars) (AWESOME!!) Dreamers Ball (Early Acoustic Take, August 1978) (AWESOME!!) Sail Away Sweet Sister (Take 1 With Guide Vocal, February 1980) (AWESOME!!) It's A Beautiful Day (Original Spontaneous Idea, April 1980) (The one I've been waiting for FOREVER!! AWESOME!!) The Hero (October 1980... Revisited) (Great!) The Kiss (Early Version, March 1980) (Great!) Football Fight (Early Version, No Synths! - February 1980) (Awesome!) None of the Hot Space or NOTW tracks are that interesting, other than Feelings, Feelings. Let's just hope that the Montreal tracks are different to the released versions. |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 06.05.2011 19:52 |
This batch looks better than the previous one. On the other hand, I am still absolutely unable to understand why the 160 minutes of 2 CDs were not used in their entirety or at least up to common double CD's standards. Cheers, Ogre- |
| dysan 07.05.2011 04:03 |
There was a similar discussion when Rykodisc reissued Bowie's 70's work in 1990. If they stuck the 6 bonus songs onto the end of the album and released them as single discs (something I would favour, TBH) People would complain (quite rightly I suppose) that it compromises the integrity of the original album. Gist: They can't win either way. |
| Hangman2011 07.05.2011 05:42 |
ole-the-first wrote: Hangman2011 wrote: pittrek wrote: I think we ALL would be happy if they would release the full Hammersmith Odeon '79 DVD with the mono sound captured by the video cameras ================================================================================================ Most importantly, that QPL came out from a state of blissful idiocy and started to do thing which we want =================== Don't be overoptimistic, guys from Queen Productions will never release what we want. If even 2CD deluxe editions forced them to release only five useless bonus tracks per album, more stuff will be released only under pain of execution. =============================================================================================== Oleg, I think, We have right to dream about Live Concerts, because only dreams we have. it's a pity that we can not file a petition for fast release of concerts on DVD |
| Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira 07.05.2011 08:05 |
dysan wrote: There was a similar discussion when Rykodisc reissued Bowie's 70's work in 1990. If they stuck the 6 bonus songs onto the end of the album and released them as single discs (something I would favour, TBH) People would complain (quite rightly I suppose) that it compromises the integrity of the original album. Gist: They can't win either way. ============================================================= Right, then let them keep the sacred integrity of the original cds. I find that ridiculous, but I understand where people come from. But why, oh why, loose so much disc space on CD#2? Cheers, Ogre- |
| Benn 07.05.2011 09:46 |
A much more satisfactory effort in terms of the bonus tracks than what was on the first wave. If we remember that these are "Bonus EPs" as opposed to a collection designed to exhaust the archive, then it's pretty decent. All of this stuff is likely to also be available on any box set that gets released I would imagine. So, looking forward to Torrenting them when they become available as with the first wave. |
| dysan 07.05.2011 12:06 |
Good point - I imagine we'll be treated to all the tracks being compiled once the original 2 disc sets are deleted. I wouldn't mind that to be honest. |
| Fastidious and Precise 10.05.2011 18:43 |
Quite a decent effort I think. Maybe it's possible they're saving a lot of the unheard gems for re-working for the upcoming Forever Queen album and are just drip feeding us slowly with some additional bonus material to tide us over until the big one.... |
| joesilvey 10.05.2011 19:22 |
Fastidious and Precise wrote: Quite a decent effort I think. Maybe it's possible they're saving a lot of the unheard gems for re-working for the upcoming Forever Queen album and are just drip feeding us slowly with some additional bonus material to tide us over until the big one.... .......................................................................................................................... forgive me if i've overlooked info on this somewhere, but can you please elaborate on the "Forever Queen" release you mention? |
| Rick 11.05.2011 03:25 |
I reckon Amazon will have samples available in a few weeks time. |