| lifetimefanofqueen 04.04.2011 15:00 |
been bugging me for a while, is autism good or bad? the good things are people like bill gates, who has aspergers and has created Microsoft which as we all know is HUGE and used by so many people, making office jobs (anything with a computer) easier, and there's a huge range of microsoft softwear, theres word, publisher etc..... and i heard this on the radio they were directing it at all people with autism not just aspergers which will jump to mind, they claimed that people with aspergers have a good memory of pictures so can draw things in huge detail etc..... obviously there ARE bad things like lacking the capability to comunicate properly, some learning difficulties etc.... and as my mom says that "everything is black and white" which i didnt understan until resently, it means for example you see people as either being good or bad and theres no in between, which i can relate as being unforgiving of people so i guess there are some bad some good things about it, but are the bad things worth the good to be able to say its a good thing? im confused and could do with some ideas and opinions on the matter |
| Freya is quietly judging you. 04.04.2011 15:13 |
You're not very bright, are you? |
| inu-liger 04.04.2011 15:17 |
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| Thistle 04.04.2011 17:03 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: You're not very bright, are you? ============================================================================================= Whether she is or not isn't really the debate. How bright are you? Answer = couldn't really care less, I like people based on personality rather than intelligence, and never judge people or attempt to bring them down over their worldly knowledge, or lack of. If this topic sparks curiosity for someone, then as part of their learning development, we should try to help them with that. And if we find it inane, then there's always the option not to answer. I'm simply going to answer that there are many variations and scales of autism, each with their own traits and charecteristics. Some are very high on the spectrum which completely hinder a person's life and mean they need constantly looked after and some very low where you wouldn't know there was a disability at all. Either way, it's not good to have any form of disability, or to be labelled. |
| Gregsynth 04.04.2011 23:33 |
I've been told that I have some characteristics of Asperger's syndrome. I don't know if I should actually get a test done--but if I have it or not, it doesn't really affect me or the people around me. |
| emrabt 05.04.2011 01:10 |
Some are very high on the spectrum which completely hinder a person's life and mean they need constantly looked after and some very low where you wouldn't know there was a disability at all. =============================== I think you have that backwards, or you are using slightly confusing terminology; “high functioning” and “low functioning” are the other way around. There is no answer, something like Asperger's (and autism in general) can neither be good or bad. Greg in all honesty i wouldn't bother getting it confirmed, there's no point in being another person with a label, also, if personal experience is anything to go by, half the time you’ll get diagnosed wrong and have to do the research yourself to convince the “experts”. But you do have aspergers, everything from your better-than-normal hearing to the fact that you get stuck and obsessed with things to the point of making those around you tired of hearing about it, pretty much confirms it. |
| Gregsynth 05.04.2011 02:00 |
emrabt wrote: Some are very high on the spectrum which completely hinder a person's life and mean they need constantly looked after and some very low where you wouldn't know there was a disability at all. =============================== I think you have that backwards, or you are using slightly confusing terminology; “high functioning” and “low functioning” are the other way around. There is no answer, something like Asperger's (and autism in general) can neither be good or bad. Greg in all honesty i wouldn't bother getting it confirmed, there's no point in being another person with a label, also, if personal experience is anything to go by, half the time you’ll get diagnosed wrong and have to do the research yourself to convince the “experts”. But you do have aspergers, everything from your better-than-normal hearing to the fact that you get stuck and obsessed with things to the point of making those around you tired of hearing about it, pretty much confirms it. =========== Well, I was doing some research throughout the computer, and I do fit some of the criteria (not all of it): 1. Narrow and intense focus on a subject/situation 2. Occasional impulsive behavior 3. Obsessed with detail (getting pitch right, analyzing stuff for hours, etc) 4. Perfect listening pitch I don't have any difficulties with socializing with people, plus I can see and tell emotions from body language or facial expressions. I'm probably either a border-line case, or have a mild form of it. If I do have it? Doesn't matter: I use it to my advantage! |
| lifetimefanofqueen 05.04.2011 08:29 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: You're not very bright, are you? ============================================================================================= Whether she is or not isn't really the debate. How bright are you? Answer = couldn't really care less, I like people based on personality rather than intelligence, and never judge people or attempt to bring them down over their worldly knowledge, or lack of. If this topic sparks curiosity for someone, then as part of their learning development, we should try to help them with that. And if we find it inane, then there's always the option not to answer. I'm simply going to answer that there are many variations and scales of autism, each with their own traits and charecteristics. Some are very high on the spectrum which completely hinder a person's life and mean they need constantly looked after and some very low where you wouldn't know there was a disability at all. Either way, it's not good to have any form of disability, or to be labelled. ======================================= that it is |
| lifetimefanofqueen 05.04.2011 08:34 |
Gregsynth wrote: I've been told that I have some characteristics of Asperger's syndrome. I don't know if I should actually get a test done--but if I have it or not, it doesn't really affect me or the people around me. ============================ to right, when i got diagnosed it didnt really effect me, im still the same person as i always was but i know some people who got diagnosed and it knocked them about a bit, i dont know why, its not life threatening but it is quite a big shock if you thought there was no way you could have it |
| Thistle 05.04.2011 12:54 |
emrabt wrote: Some are very high on the spectrum which completely hinder a person's life and mean they need constantly looked after and some very low where you wouldn't know there was a disability at all. =============================== I think you have that backwards, or you are using slightly confusing terminology; “high functioning” and “low functioning” are the other way around. ============================================================================================ Yep, correct - my late-at-night flu-fuelled answer was put the wrong way round. CORRECTION - the high end of the spectrum = mild. |
| Hangman_96 06.04.2011 07:09 |
lifetimefanofqueen wrote: been bugging me for a while, is autism good or bad? the good things are people like bill gates, who has aspergers and has created Microsoft which as we all know is HUGE and used by so many people, making office jobs (anything with a computer) easier, and there's a huge range of microsoft softwear, theres word, publisher etc..... and i heard this on the radio they were directing it at all people with autism not just aspergers which will jump to mind, they claimed that people with aspergers have a good memory of pictures so can draw things in huge detail etc..... obviously there ARE bad things like lacking the capability to comunicate properly, some learning difficulties etc.... and as my mom says that "everything is black and white" which i didnt understan until resently, it means for example you see people as either being good or bad and theres no in between, which i can relate as being unforgiving of people so i guess there are some bad some good things about it, but are the bad things worth the good to be able to say its a good thing? im confused and could do with some ideas and opinions on the matter ==== In my opinion autism isn't such a bad thing. Just look, Mozart and Einstein were autistics and they were geniuses. Mozart started writing genial songs since he was 4 years old! Autism isn't a disease, it's just when people think in another way, not like other people. I think there's nothing to worry about, honey. Everyone can be an autistic while he even doesn't know about it! And bearing in mind all these famous people who are/were autistics, you can make a conclusion that autistics are geniuses. |
| Hangman_96 06.04.2011 07:10 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote: You're not very bright, are you? ==== You're not very clever, are you? Go judging yourself until you've understood what did you write. |
| thomasquinn 32989 06.04.2011 09:16 |
Lostman wrote: You're not very clever, are you? Go judging yourself until you've understood what did you write. ==== Now *that* made me laugh! I'm still in doubt as to whether this is an example of dramatic irony or just the plain kind. On topic: autism =/= good, provided we're talking about the clinical definition of autism. It is a mental illness that severely hinders communication, information processing and makes most aspects of what we consider "normal life" impossible or at least stunningly difficult. However, since the '90s, it has been increasingly popular for (dubious) psychologists* and even some psychiatrists, to diagnose even the slightest abnormality (if that) in children's behaviour as a syndrome of some kind, preferably so that expensive testing, therapy and medication can be prescribed. All too often, the 'milder' forms of autism, such as Asperger's Syndrome, are abused to this end, quite simply because almost every human being has *some* of the 'symptoms' associated. Even worse than this is the growing population of self-diagnosers who claim their kid(s) or they themselves suffer from [fill in fashionable syndrome here], for god knows what reason. It's like ADHD. Just like only a fraction of those kids diagnosed with ADHD (or ADD) actually have it, many people diagnosed with mild autism aren't ill at all. * I want to note here that psychology, as opposed to psychiatry, is not a real science, in the same way and for the same reasons that sociology isn't. Useful things have originated from both, but the ugly truth remains that a majority of the 'research' undertaken in these fields falls firmly in the pseudo-science category. Stunningly, even many psychology and sociology students agree with me on that. |
| Thistle 06.04.2011 12:33 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: * I want to note here that psychology, as opposed to psychiatry, is not a real science, in the same way and for the same reasons that sociology isn't. Useful things have originated from both, but the ugly truth remains that a majority of the 'research' undertaken in these fields falls firmly in the pseudo-science category. Stunningly, even many psychology and sociology students agree with me on that. ============================================================================================= As part of a media degree I studied for around a decade ago now, I had to pass in both Psychology and Sociology modules - I would never have dared think of these as sciences, or myself as either a psychologist or sociologist. As you say, there have been useful things to originate from both, but I always thought them as micky mouse subjects, and often told the "profs" that they were faux scientists lol |
| john bodega 07.04.2011 08:32 |
"Go judging yourself until you've understood what did you write" is coincidentally what most Village Idiots have written on their headstones .... but since they were just misunderstood victims of autism, I probably shouldn't bring that up here. PS. Please no replies to this post; I'm not interested. |
| Hangman_96 07.04.2011 08:52 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Go judging yourself until you've understood what did you write" is coincidentally what most Village Idiots have written on their headstones .... but since they were just misunderstood victims of autism, I probably shouldn't bring that up here. PS. Please no replies to this post; I'm not interested. ==== I haven't called you a shit and it hasn't been written for you. I just want everybody to understand this rule: "If you upset lifetimefanofqueen, you will die." Which part of this rule don't you guys understand? Saying "Please no replies to this post; I'm not interested" shows how much you are interested in my reply. If you don't like me and what I write, please ignore me. I'd do the same with you. BTW, "misunderstood victims of autism" tells me that you don't like the autistics. You have something against the autistics, don't you? Very well... shows how much polite person you are... Keep staying the such one and some day you'll pay for that. |
| john bodega 07.04.2011 09:54 |
"Which part of this rule don't you guys understand?" I checked the forum rules, and actually it's not in there. Even if it were, I think the chief problem wouldn't be people "not understanding it, as much as "not giving a shit". As for the rest of your post - yeah yeah, ok. I think if you're silly enough to take what I said seriously, then it's probably more out of choice than actual impairment of any kind. |
| Hangman_96 07.04.2011 10:13 |
Zebonka12 wrote: "Which part of this rule don't you guys understand?" I checked the forum rules, and actually it's not in there. Even if it were, I think the chief problem wouldn't be people "not understanding it, as much as "not giving a shit". As for the rest of your post - yeah yeah, ok. I think if you're silly enough to take what I said seriously, then it's probably more out of choice than actual impairment of any kind. ==== It's right there. You should double check it. (if you still can't understand my humour) Much of people don't give a shit. Why should I care about it? Let people do what they want but I'll never let someone upset lifetimefanofqueen. Who said I took it seriously? I'm having a fun with it. People shouldn't take my words seriously too as some of what I say are just jokes. But yes, the words "I'll never let someone upset lifetimefanofqueen" are serious and I think everyone should take them seriously. |
| john bodega 07.04.2011 10:34 |
Oh, so you were kidding all along and actually don't care if we take the piss out of lifetimesadsack??? This arrangement suits me! Sorry for getting confused about it all. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 07.04.2011 10:51 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Oh, so you were kidding all along and actually don't care if we take the piss out of lifetimesadsack??? This arrangement suits me! Sorry for getting confused about it all. =================== wtf did i do to you |
| -fatty- 2850 07.04.2011 12:17 |
Lostman> I know I have a reputation for not being taken seriously but believe me when I tell you that there's one thing I never joke about. If you upset Zebonka, I will kill you. It's that simple. If you think I'm bluffing, you'd do well to remember that a few years ago there was another guy who thought it would be a good idea to upset Zebonka by disagreeing with him about the inclusion of "It's Late" to the track listing of Queen Rocks. The only thing that saved that particular poster from an untimely end was the fact that apart from his user name, I had no earthly idea who he was or how to track him down. There was another guy who picked Zebonka up over a grammatical error he had made. I hired an I.T expert to click on the guy's profile and discovered that he lived in Portugal. On that occasion I was prepared to let him off with a stern warning. And more recently there was the guy who spelled Zebonka's name wrong. I sent him a private message in which I threatened to beat him to a bloody pulp, rape his wife and set fire to his children if he'd be so kind as to send me his home address and let me know of a convenient time to call round. So you've been warned Lostman, if you so much as think about upsetting Zebonka, I'll gut you like a fish. Or not as the case might be. fatty. |
| -fatty- 2850 07.04.2011 12:19 |
Sorry I almost forgot. Autism is fucking brilliant. fatty. |
| john bodega 07.04.2011 12:49 |
I think there's a bit of an agenda going on here. People really aren't taking into account the fact that you really can be productive while living with autism, asperger's, or several other conditions that aren't understood properly. Just think of the greats in our history ... Jesse Owens, H.G Wells, Martin Luther King, Aron Ralston, George Stephenson and Wernher von Braun... they're all really great people. |
| Hangman_96 07.04.2011 14:24 |
-fatty- wrote: Lostman> I know I have a reputation for not being taken seriously but believe me when I tell you that there's one thing I never joke about. If you upset Zebonka, I will kill you. It's that simple. If you think I'm bluffing, you'd do well to remember that a few years ago there was another guy who thought it would be a good idea to upset Zebonka by disagreeing with him about the inclusion of "It's Late" to the track listing of Queen Rocks. The only thing that saved that particular poster from an untimely end was the fact that apart from his user name, I had no earthly idea who he was or how to track him down. There was another guy who picked Zebonka up over a grammatical error he had made. I hired an I.T expert to click on the guy's profile and discovered that he lived in Portugal. On that occasion I was prepared to let him off with a stern warning. And more recently there was the guy who spelled Zebonka's name wrong. I sent him a private message in which I threatened to beat him to a bloody pulp, rape his wife and set fire to his children if he'd be so kind as to send me his home address and let me know of a convenient time to call round. So you've been warned Lostman, if you so much as think about upsetting Zebonka, I'll gut you like a fish. Or not as the case might be. fatty. ==== I wasn't gonna upset anyone and I have NOTHING against Zebonka. I'm repeating that my words shouldn't be taken seriously as some people often seem to take them so. But I wanna tell you something Fatty, if you're thinking about upsetting lifetimefanofqueen, I'll cut your head and the parts of your body will be found around some parts of the world (the same will happen with everyone who upsets her). Please, don't think it's a joke, you'd better take it seriously. You've been warned, Fatty. I think I shouldn't explain anything else. |
| emrabt 07.04.2011 14:40 |
As we’re going off subject I’d like to make it known that I hate physiologists and physiatrists, I’m equally prejudice against all of them, even ones I’ve never met. They’re too quick to prescribe medications, too eager to see things that aren’t there and too happy to diagnose non-existent problems. I also think ADD and ADHD (both which I was wrongly diagnosed with growing) up, are fake, and are simply diagnosing childlike behaviour. Okay rant over. LifeTimequeenfan, having lostman make stupid, wacky threats isn't helping people take you seriously. I know he has the best intentions, but seriously it’s not helping you, it’s making things worse. |
| YannickJoker 07.04.2011 15:12 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Just think of the greats in our history ... Jesse Owens, H.G Wells, Martin Luther King, Aron Ralston, George Stephenson and Wernher von Braun... they're all really great people. ==== And Julia Jones. See, it just doesn't fit. |
| -fatty- 2850 07.04.2011 15:33 |
I actually like Julia (pardon me for using her real name but it's quicker than typing lifetimefanofqueen). She's a little bit kooky, a little bit krazy and by golly, I like that in a lass. But here's the thing, I was thinking about intentionally upsetting Julia (again, I'm sorry for using her real name but it just takes too long to type lifetimefanofqueen) just to provoke a reaction from you, but then I thought "No, that would be childish and Julia (as I've already explained, I'm using Julia's real name simply because it's faster than having to type lifetimefanofqueen) has done nothing to deserve that, apart from having an irritatingly long user name. But I did think about upsetting her. Now according to the terms in your threat, the very act of thinking about upsetting Julia (or lifetimefanofqueen as she prefers to be called, but it just takes too damned long to type) is enough to warrant my immediate dismemberment. But before you chop me up and have my various body parts sent to the four corners of the globe, I have a few requests. 1. Assuming you're going to cut my head off, instead of just cutting it as stated in your original threat, could you send it to New Zealand? Ever since I saw the Lord Of The Rings films, I've wanted to see that beautiful country for myself but could never afford it. I reckon my head in a box shipped via UPS would be a fraction of the cost of an airline seat. 2. Send my right arm and my penis to Brazil with instructions to empty them in front of a women's volleyball tournament. I can take it from there. 3. Send my right leg to New Hampshire where it is to be fitted to a contraption that allows it to kick Jake Britt in the face at two minute intervals. 4. Finally, I'd like my backside to be sent to Ukraine where it can spend the remainder of it's days with all the other arseholes that live there. I look forward to your arrival and don't hesitate to PM me if you need picked up at the airport. fatty. |
| Hangman_96 07.04.2011 16:31 |
May I ask before you've already cut me, Fatty? Send my organs to Scotland. I want my organs to be seen by all fuckers that live there, such fuckers as yourself. I didn't say it if you wouldn't say shit about my country. I didn't say anything such before but you did and so did I. Actually, I don't think such about Scottish people as United Kingdom is my favourite country and only beautiful people live there. UK gave Queen to the whole world and I say a big thanks to that beautiful country. But there's one Scottish motherfucker that tells stupid, idiotic jokes and thinks it looks cool. He's a world's problem and he's wanted by police. Maybe you know who's that motherfucker? Oh, that's you. And you tell you like Julia? Actually you don't like her. You're just telling one of your moronic jokes as always. You tell completely different things at the same time. Be careful of what you say about her, cunt! I won't repeat what happens to you if you will continue. As I told you before - if you don't like me, please ignore me. Oh stop, I will agree with you about Ukraine! You're right! It's full of arseholes. Russian arseholes have occupied that country. It's full of Russian rude people and you won't find any Ukrainian here. So here you're right. No need to reply, Fatty. This isn't interesting anymore. |
| Hangman_96 07.04.2011 16:45 |
Fatty, please stop responding to me. If you don't like me, ignore me. |
| The Real Wizard 07.04.2011 19:41 |
-fatty- wrote: I sent him a private message in which I threatened to beat him to a bloody pulp, rape his wife and set fire to his children if he'd be so kind as to send me his home address and let me know of a convenient time to call round. ================== Pure genius. |
| -fatty- 2850 08.04.2011 06:31 |
Lostman wrote: Fatty, please stop responding to me. If you don't like me, ignore me. ================================================================================== Who said anything about not liking you? Just because you're a bit of a dick doesn't mean we cant still be pals. Some of my oldest and dearest friends are fuck-wits of the highest order and it's never stood in the way of our relationships. All I'm trying to get through to you is that no matter how menacing or threatening you try to sound, you're just a daft wee boy who has confused chivalry with making a massive tool of yourself. fatty. |
| Holly2003 08.04.2011 07:03 |
Autism is great! Everybody should try it at least once. Mine took half an hour and I got a free hat.* *Please, note I may have confused autism with a pony ride. |
| Hangman_96 08.04.2011 09:25 |
-fatty- wrote: Who said anything about not liking you? Just because you're a bit of a dick doesn't mean we cant still be pals. Some of my oldest and dearest friends are fuck-wits of the highest order and it's never stood in the way of our relationships. All I'm trying to get through to you is that no matter how menacing or threatening you try to sound, you're just a daft wee boy who has confused chivalry with making a massive tool of yourself. fatty. ==== And completely same with you. I don't try to sound like menacing or threatening man. If you haven't properly heard then I repeat that especially for you again - my words shouldn't be taken seriously, they're bunch of jokes and there is nothing to do with threats. Once someone has decided that everything that I say is a menace. Any others (who act like monkeys) have believed it and started thinking so after it had happened. I think you're not the one who believes everything so you should be agreed. |
| *goodco* 08.04.2011 10:50 |
fatty wrote regarding his wishes for dismemberment 1. Assuming you're going to cut my head off, instead of just cutting it as stated in your original threat, could you send it to New Zealand? Ever since I saw the Lord Of The Rings films, I've wanted to see that beautiful country for myself but could never afford it. I reckon my head in a box shipped via UPS would be a fraction of the cost of an airline seat. Our daughter went there in 2005, and plans another trip next year. Could you or Lostman provide these items, so that she might get a business discount? 2. Send my right arm and my penis to Brazil with instructions to empty them in front of a women's volleyball tournament. I can take it from there. Their women soccer fans are hotter, so you may want to reconsider. 3. Send my right leg to New Hampshire where it is to be fitted to a contraption that allows it to kick Jake Britt in the face at two minute intervals. We live in Maryland, and could see to this personally. 4. Finally, I'd like my backside to be sent to Ukraine where it can spend the remainder of it's days with all the other arseholes that live there. My brother is gay, lives in Hawaii, and might make eternity a tad more fun. Just a thought. Or we could just spread you all over our back yard, as we had quite a drought last year, and since you are the top notch fertilizer on this board, that might allow the dead grass to recover much sooner than what we are experiencing at the present time. Seriously, to julia (too lazy to type out lifetimefanofqueen), 'is autism good or bad?' Can you search google? Sadly, we have friends who are dealing with a child with this affliction. I may come across dumber questions on this board, but yours takes the cake. Are you related to Arlene R. Weiss or Lisa J. Goodrich? Lostman........., I'd like my body parts to be tossed over the Mackinac Bridge. Thank you in advance. |
| Hangman_96 08.04.2011 11:13 |
*goodco* wrote: Lostman........., I'd like my body parts to be tossed over the Mackinac Bridge. Thank you in advance. ==== I'm not a seller of people's bodies. LOL |
| GratefulFan 08.04.2011 11:41 |
*goodco* wrote: Seriously, to julia (too lazy to type out lifetimefanofqueen), 'is autism good or bad?' Can you search google? Sadly, we have friends who are dealing with a child with this affliction. I may come across dumber questions on this board, but yours takes the cake. Are you related to Arlene R. Weiss or Lisa J. Goodrich? =========================== She's been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder and she's looking for thoughts on what the label might mean for her. So what? |
| lifetimefanofqueen 08.04.2011 13:50 |
GratefulFan wrote: *goodco* wrote: Seriously, to julia (too lazy to type out lifetimefanofqueen), 'is autism good or bad?' Can you search google? Sadly, we have friends who are dealing with a child with this affliction. I may come across dumber questions on this board, but yours takes the cake. Are you related to Arlene R. Weiss or Lisa J. Goodrich? =========================== She's been diagnosed with an autism spectrum disorder and she's looking for thoughts on what the label might mean for her. So what? =========================== exactly, is it really illegal to ask about it to PEOPLE not a search engine like google about something you get diagnosed with? if you dont like human conversations then tough |
| *goodco* 08.04.2011 14:50 |
I am sorry...........no I am not. If you had autism, you could not respond to a post on any forum. jayzus effin kah rist......................we're not that stupid. lifetimefanofqueen............sorry, too lazy to type out julia............you are a frickin idiot or take us for idiots. When ewe reach 40 rears oph age in u kupple of reers, whe hopp yule be bitt'r, mate. maybe wood knot bee sew bad if jewelya only posted wunce or twise a weeek. so sad yv and richard allows all of this to go on |
| Hangman_96 08.04.2011 14:57 |
*goodco* wrote: I am sorry...........no I am not. If you had autism, you could not respond to a post on any forum. jayzus effin kah rist......................we're not that stupid. lifetimefanofqueen............sorry, too lazy to type out julia............you are a frickin idiot or take us for idiots. When ewe reach 40 rears oph age in u kupple of reers, whe hopp yule be bitt'r, mate. maybe wood knot bee sew bad if jewelya only posted wunce or twise a weeek. so sad yv and richard allows all of this to go on ==== Learn yourself to be polite. She hasn't called you an idiot, by the way. And what makes you think she lies? Ha? |
| emrabt 08.04.2011 15:07 |
If you had autism, you could not respond to a post on any forum. ==================== whoever said this needs to be educated about autism, It’s an extremely ignorant thing to say. It’s perfectly understandable to see why you would think this, as movies and TV shows only show severally autistic people, and most of the time they have retardation. There are different degrees of autism depending on how far up or down the “spectrum” someone is, basically refers to how severally autistic one is, rain man, for example, would be “low functioning”, as two way convocation is impossible due to just repeating information. Aspergers, is a high functioning form, which means communication is pretty normal, but understandings of emotions, facial expressions and stuff is limited. So knowing when you become annoying to other people is hard, especially knowing when to shut up. And increasingly annoying when the person gets fixated on a subject and wants to tell everyone they know everything about it. Max, from treasure moment also falls into the category. Which is why Julia annoys people, including, I’m going to guess, her friends and family. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 08.04.2011 15:53 |
*goodco* wrote: I am sorry...........no I am not. If you had autism, you could not respond to a post on any forum. jayzus effin kah rist......................we're not that stupid. lifetimefanofqueen............sorry, too lazy to type out julia............you are a frickin idiot or take us for idiots. When ewe reach 40 rears oph age in u kupple of reers, whe hopp yule be bitt'r, mate. maybe wood knot bee sew bad if jewelya only posted wunce or twise a weeek. so sad yv and richard allows all of this to go on ================ couldnt reply on a forum if i had autism? i have aspergers and so do many other people here, i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk, and im the idiot? im not the one ranting on about old age and other bollocks in which every word isnt spelt right, and who the fuck is richard? and what the fuck are you talking about! |
| lifetimefanofqueen 08.04.2011 16:42 |
emrabt wrote: If you had autism, you could not respond to a post on any forum. ==================== whoever said this needs to be educated about autism, It’s an extremely ignorant thing to say. It’s perfectly understandable to see why you would think this, as movies and TV shows only show severally autistic people, and most of the time they have retardation. There are different degrees of autism depending on how far up or down the “spectrum” someone is, basically refers to how severally autistic one is, rain man, for example, would be “low functioning”, as two way convocation is impossible due to just repeating information. Aspergers, is a high functioning form, which means communication is pretty normal, but understandings of emotions, facial expressions and stuff is limited. So knowing when you become annoying to other people is hard, especially knowing when to shut up. And increasingly annoying when the person gets fixated on a subject and wants to tell everyone they know everything about it. Max, from treasure moment also falls into the category. Which is why Julia annoys people, including, I’m going to guess, her friends and family. ====================== not in all cases, i know when when people are upset or not, and i dont talk about my obsessions all the time, i use to when i was a kid, all id talk about would be doctor who, i then grew out of doctor who because i got scared about liking it because people at school would pick on me for it, then i went onto Queen but i dont talk about it all the time to people, i know that if i do it will just annoy people so i keep quiet unless someone asks me something about them, but i dont go on and on because i know it will bore them, in reality as i said i dont talk alot and tend to be the "john deacon" of the group and be quiet because i know i will annoy people if i talk because i will go on and on, so i just sit, be quiet and listen. i can talk to my family but talking to anyone else is hard, theres a girl at my school who also has aspergers and i want to get to know her and be her friend but she also dosent talk much either so im worried about it, i dont know if i should or shouldnt so yeah i understand other peoples emotions |
| The Real Wizard 08.04.2011 17:21 |
lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk ========================== That's not asperger's ... it's simply being a teenager .. being in the process of finding yourself. These things are way over-diagnosed these days. When I was your age I was out playing sports with my friends every day. Most kids these days sit behind a computer screen or some other gizmo for an average of 5 hours a day. As a teacher I encounter plenty of kids diagnosed with ADD and asberger's, but after I meet the parents it all makes sense. About 1 in 10 of these diagnoses are true ... the rest of them is society not being able to hold parents accountable for not imposing restrictions on technology in their kids' lives.. they scratch their heads wondering why their kids have an attention span of 8 seconds on average, and have no idea how to hold a conversation. 800 million people are going to sleep hungry tonight, and twice that number would kill to vote in a democratic election ... and there are kids in the west who complain about not "being able" to talk to people, choose not to eat because the girl on the magazine is skinnier, or even cut their wrists daily. Some superior species we have become.. The more you type on the computer instead of doing real socializing, the more it becomes your safety net... and the harder it will be to socialize yourself later in life. Talking on a forum or on facebook is not a social life. Get together with some friends and have a good time... talk to each other... exchange thoughts and ideas... play a sport, join a club... etc. etc. There are so many things you can do to integrate into the world. |
| *goodco* 08.04.2011 17:29 |
Asbergers......Autism We're talking different subjects, dipshits. Once again, we know the difference. Spouse is a teacher, as well as having a Master's in child psychology. You are a dyslexic, bipolar, attention seeking whore on this board. Get a blog as requested by others months ago. Get some frickin help, as lostman will not come to my house, fatty's, or zebonka's to protect you. It's sad that Richard and YV continue to allow you and your Barnabas Collin's protector/alter ego to continue on with this nonsense. But, in the meantime, all of us will continue to have fun with you. Unless lostman comes by my neck of the woods outside of my nation's capital. In which case, gratefulfan will defend our rite to free speech and rongul spln. ************** just saw that Bob posted while I was typing my sarcastic response, and, as always, the voice of wisdom overrides my tart reply.........................for the most part |
| lifetimefanofqueen 08.04.2011 20:16 |
*goodco* wrote: Asbergers......Autism We're talking different subjects, dipshits. Once again, we know the difference. Spouse is a teacher, as well as having a Master's in child psychology. You are a dyslexic, bipolar, attention seeking whore on this board. Get a blog as requested by others months ago. Get some frickin help, as lostman will not come to my house, fatty's, or zebonka's to protect you. It's sad that Richard and YV continue to allow you and your Barnabas Collin's protector/alter ego to continue on with this nonsense. But, in the meantime, all of us will continue to have fun with you. Unless lostman comes by my neck of the woods outside of my nation's capital. In which case, gratefulfan will defend our rite to free speech and rongul spln. ************** just saw that Bob posted while I was typing my sarcastic response, and, as always, the voice of wisdom overrides my tart reply.........................for the most part ================================== im not an attention seeker and im not a fucking whore, and im not the cunt posting bollocks about people on a fan site am i? what did i do to you to piss you off? nothing thats what |
| lifetimefanofqueen 08.04.2011 20:21 |
Sir GH wrote: lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk ========================== That's not asperger's ... it's simply being a teenager .. being in the process of finding yourself. These things are way over-diagnosed these days. When I was your age I was out playing sports with my friends every day. Most kids these days sit behind a computer screen or some other gizmo for an average of 5 hours a day. As a teacher I encounter plenty of kids diagnosed with ADD and asberger's, but after I meet the parents it all makes sense. About 1 in 10 of these diagnoses are true ... the rest of them is society not being able to hold parents accountable for not imposing restrictions on technology in their kids' lives.. they scratch their heads wondering why their kids have an attention span of 8 seconds on average, and have no idea how to hold a conversation. 800 million people are going to sleep hungry tonight, and twice that number would kill to vote in a democratic election ... and there are kids in the west who complain about not "being able" to talk to people, choose not to eat because the girl on the magazine is skinnier, or even cut their wrists daily. Some superior species we have become.. The more you type on the computer instead of doing real socializing, the more it becomes your safety net... and the harder it will be to socialize yourself later in life. Talking on a forum or on facebook is not a social life. Get together with some friends and have a good time... talk to each other... exchange thoughts and ideas... play a sport, join a club... etc. etc. There are so many things you can do to integrate into the world. ============================= i was diagnosed by a specialist, exaclty how can you say i dont have it when you dont even know me in person? weve never spoken before, im a different person all together online, the person who diagnosed he, aspergers was her specialty, |
| tcc 08.04.2011 22:12 |
lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk I think I can understand why in real life you shut yourself and don't talk. Judging from the replies you have made, you seem to be an aggressive person. You can get away with talking aggressively in online forums, but in real life you might get beaten up physically if you talk like this to another person. Perhaps the solution to your fear in talking to people in real life is to learn to curb your temper, practise tolerance and seek the companionship of people who have the same interest as you so that they can bring out the best in you. |
| The Real Wizard 08.04.2011 23:24 |
lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i was diagnosed by a specialist ============ And these specialists give wrong diagnoses every day, largely because they want to make the pharmaceutical companies money by prescribing the medication. As a result, teenagers will then wrongly believe they are fucked up and think, why bother trying to fix it since there's something "genetically wrong" with me? Money almost always trumps ethics in this capitalistic world we're in. You're young ... you'll learn, eventually.. You're right, I don't know you. But I'm over twice your age and I have a pretty good idea of how the world works. I've read your posts, and you have a good inquiring mind. Chances are there is nothing wrong with you. |
| emrabt 09.04.2011 02:03 |
Sir GH wrote some stuff.... ========= I couldn't agree more, they just label everything and everyone, doping people up and removing individuality, it’s a horrible world we live in. I’m a perfect example, I didn’t WANT to follow my peers or my age group, so immediately there must be something wrong, nobody assumed I just didn’t like idiots my own age. got taken to a physiologist, and immediately got diagnosed with ADHD (which is the fakest, most disgusting excuse to shove medication into kids I’ve ever seen, it’s basically a diagnoses of being a child), so I got Ritalin shoved down my throat for years, For some reason my mum though someone who had only met me an hour knew what was best. I spent 5 or 6 years fighting against the diagnoses and diagnosed myself with aspergers, physiologist agreed but I don’t have aspegers, I have too much of a sense of humour, imagination and social skills. So the moral of the story is, never tell a physiologist you will sell your medication, they don’t find it funny and it makes matters a lot worse. This is coming from someone who has been through it. goodco, in the UK aspergers is categorised under the autistic spectrum, but strangely ADHD isn’t, in the US it’s the other way around. |
| *goodco* 09.04.2011 02:34 |
I give up. Arlene. Lisa J.. Jake. Mr. Mahler. Set aside another chair around the table. You all have a permanent guest. Enjoy. Is it any wonder we don't frequent conventions every year........................... take care joe, the wife, and their faithful dog+ |
| thomasquinn 32989 09.04.2011 05:20 |
Sir GH wrote: lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk ========================== That's not asperger's ... it's simply being a teenager .. being in the process of finding yourself. These things are way over-diagnosed these days. When I was your age I was out playing sports with my friends every day. Most kids these days sit behind a computer screen or some other gizmo for an average of 5 hours a day. As a teacher I encounter plenty of kids diagnosed with ADD and asberger's, but after I meet the parents it all makes sense. About 1 in 10 of these diagnoses are true ... the rest of them is society not being able to hold parents accountable for not imposing restrictions on technology in their kids' lives.. they scratch their heads wondering why their kids have an attention span of 8 seconds on average, and have no idea how to hold a conversation. ====== Exactly! Most of these kids are victims of parents desperate to get their kids diagnosed with something, "or the neighboars might think we're bad parents"! I'd be inclined to say that most of the time it's the parents who need treatment, not the kids. ====== 800 million people are going to sleep hungry tonight, and twice that number would kill to vote in a democratic election ... and there are kids in the west who complain about not "being able" to talk to people, choose not to eat because the girl on the magazine is skinnier, or even cut their wrists daily. Some superior species we have become.. ====== I'd like to put this into perspective a bit: first - it might be nitpicking a bit, but waaaay more people than that go to bed (if they have one) hungry night after night - the most recent figure I've heard was 1,2 billion. Most of these people don't give a damn about 'democratic elections', and rightly so. If a dictator will feed them where a democratic assembly will not, they have every right to back the dictator. Well over a billion people don't know if they'll still be around tomorrow, let alone where they are going to get their next dollar from. Democracy is a luxury for them. And there we have the crux: luxury. We are the lucky ones, we don't have to worry about food and shelter, or any of the necessities of life. However, because we don't have to worry about those, life can become completely meaningless to some. This might seem like an irrelevant detail when you are fed, clothed and sheltered, but an empty life can destroy people just like war and famine can. We in the west like to over-diagnose and turn everything into a syndrome, but the fact remains that our society based on luxury has winners and losers just like any society. Young people are especially vulnerable, and the kind of behaviour you mentioned is not historically unheard of: declining civilizations have exhibited this kind of despair time and time again. Luxury can cause suffering and emptines the same way want can. That's the irony. ====== The more you type on the computer instead of doing real socializing, the more it becomes your safety net... and the harder it will be to socialize yourself later in life. Talking on a forum or on facebook is not a social life. Get together with some friends and have a good time... talk to each other... exchange thoughts and ideas... play a sport, join a club... etc. etc. There are so many things you can do to integrate into the world. ====== The idea that the internet is something completely different from real life is outdated. When push comes to shove, behind the avatar or nickname, there's a real person. Don't forget that people have made the exact same lack-of-social-contact argument about the telephone, and of mail before that. It's just like books, really. We complain that kids these days don't read books anymore. Not a hundred years ago (I have sources from as late as the 1920s), parents and teachers complained that kids were reading books all the time, which was supposedly making their minds go numb. Which leads us to Sokrates. Around 400BC, he notably remarked that young people these days were no good - they had no respect for the elderly, they did not contribute to society, they were loud, unproductive, caused trouble and were morally lacking. Move forward some 2500 years, and we're still saying the same things. |
| emrabt 09.04.2011 07:04 |
The more you type on the computer instead of doing real socializing, the more it becomes your safety net... and the harder it will be to socialize yourself later in life. Talking on a forum or on facebook is not a social life. Get together with some friends and have a good time... talk to each other... exchange thoughts and ideas... play a sport, join a club... etc. etc. There are so many things you can do to integrate into the world. ==================== It’s Fear of failure, people aren't sure they can do it, so instead of practicing until they can, they don't. it even applies to simple things like getting on a bus. Most of it is lack of confidence, they don’t want to get off at the wrong stop or feel foolish, so they don’t get on a bus, so it just makes it harder the next time, eventually a fear builds up. Not socialising is the same thing, what if they say something stupid and get laughed at and with sports, this whole generation generally has a problem with confidence, and people giving these things a label and pandering to it just makes it worse. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 09.04.2011 11:48 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: Sir GH wrote: lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk ========================== That's not asperger's ... it's simply being a teenager .. being in the process of finding yourself. These things are way over-diagnosed these days. When I was your age I was out playing sports with my friends every day. Most kids these days sit behind a computer screen or some other gizmo for an average of 5 hours a day. As a teacher I encounter plenty of kids diagnosed with ADD and asberger's, but after I meet the parents it all makes sense. About 1 in 10 of these diagnoses are true ... the rest of them is society not being able to hold parents accountable for not imposing restrictions on technology in their kids' lives.. they scratch their heads wondering why their kids have an attention span of 8 seconds on average, and have no idea how to hold a conversation. ====== Exactly! Most of these kids are victims of parents desperate to get their kids diagnosed with something, "or the neighboars might think we're bad parents"! I'd be inclined to say that most of the time it's the parents who need treatment, not the kids. ====== 800 million people are going to sleep hungry tonight, and twice that number would kill to vote in a democratic election ... and there are kids in the west who complain about not "being able" to talk to people, choose not to eat because the girl on the magazine is skinnier, or even cut their wrists daily. Some superior species we have become.. ====== I'd like to put this into perspective a bit: first - it might be nitpicking a bit, but waaaay more people than that go to bed (if they have one) hungry night after night - the most recent figure I've heard was 1,2 billion. Most of these people don't give a damn about 'democratic elections', and rightly so. If a dictator will feed them where a democratic assembly will not, they have every right to back the dictator. Well over a billion people don't know if they'll still be around tomorrow, let alone where they are going to get their next dollar from. Democracy is a luxury for them. And there we have the crux: luxury. We are the lucky ones, we don't have to worry about food and shelter, or any of the necessities of life. However, because we don't have to worry about those, life can become completely meaningless to some. This might seem like an irrelevant detail when you are fed, clothed and sheltered, but an empty life can destroy people just like war and famine can. We in the west like to over-diagnose and turn everything into a syndrome, but the fact remains that our society based on luxury has winners and losers just like any society. Young people are especially vulnerable, and the kind of behaviour you mentioned is not historically unheard of: declining civilizations have exhibited this kind of despair time and time again. Luxury can cause suffering and emptines the same way want can. That's the irony. ====== The more you type on the computer instead of doing real socializing, the more it becomes your safety net... and the harder it will be to socialize yourself later in life. Talking on a forum or on facebook is not a social life. Get together with some friends and have a good time... talk to each other... exchange thoughts and ideas... play a sport, join a club... etc. etc. There are so many things you can do to integrate into the world. ====== The idea that the internet is something completely different from real life is outdated. When push comes to shove, behind the avatar or nickname, there's a real person. Don't forget that people have made the exact same lack-of-social-contact argument about the telephone, and of mail before that. It's just like books, really. We complain that kids these days don't read books anymore. Not a hundred years ago (I have sources from as late as the 1920s), parents and teachers complained that kids were reading books all the time, which was supposedly making their minds go numb. Which leads us to Sokrates. Around 400BC, he notably remarked that young people these days were no good - they had no respect for the elderly, they did not contribute to society, they were loud, unproductive, caused trouble and were morally lacking. Move forward some 2500 years, and we're still saying the same things. ================================= its just a stereotype, i love old people, you can have a proper conversation with them, i preferbeing around the elderly than kids my age because the elderly are more acceptive and wont reject you because you dont like N-dubz and miley cryrus, im no loud because i dont like loud noises, i rarely talk in my room because i dont like the thought of upsetting people and i dont cause trouble because i aint one of the kids that go around pissin everyone in the street off because ive got better things to do. (sorry for missing words making spelling mistakes, im still plannig on how to get back at my brother for dropping my laptop) |
| john bodega 09.04.2011 12:04 |
"i love old people, you can have a proper conversation with them" That's when they aren't stinking the place up and shitting their pants. |
| The Real Wizard 09.04.2011 12:49 |
ThomasQuinn wrote: "Exactly! Most of these kids are victims of parents desperate to get their kids diagnosed with something, "or the neighboars might think we're bad parents"! I'd be inclined to say that most of the time it's the parents who need treatment, not the kids." Bingo. It's the soccer mom syndrome, where one tells the other how many extra-cirricular activities their kid does every week, as if doing 6 things is better than 5. It's a big contest to prove to the world that they're good parents. Being a parent is arguably the most important job in the world, yet it doesn't require any kind of screening or a job application. ====== "an empty life can destroy people just like war and famine can. We in the west like to over-diagnose and turn everything into a syndrome, but the fact remains that our society based on luxury has winners and losers just like any society. Young people are especially vulnerable, and the kind of behaviour you mentioned is not historically unheard of: declining civilizations have exhibited this kind of despair time and time again. Luxury can cause suffering and emptines the same way want can. That's the irony." Very good perspective there. I've been at this forum for many years, and you've always been one of the wisest people here. ====== "The idea that the internet is something completely different from real life is outdated. When push comes to shove, behind the avatar or nickname, there's a real person. Don't forget that people have made the exact same lack-of-social-contact argument about the telephone, and of mail before that." Yes, but the difference is, few people used the telephone or the mail as a substitute for a real social life. These days there is an increasing number of people going out on a Friday night and wondering what's happening on facebook. The internet can be a good extension of one's social life, but far too many people have made it their primary medium for their social life. ====== "Which leads us to Sokrates. Around 400BC, he notably remarked that young people these days were no good - they had no respect for the elderly, they did not contribute to society, they were loud, unproductive, caused trouble and were morally lacking. Move forward some 2500 years, and we're still saying the same things." Of course, at the end of the day it's all comparative. The end of socializing, the end of art, the end of authority... historically the older generations always resisted change. But as far as I can tell, the prominence, accessibility and safety net of the computer has led to exponentially worse results than any other major shift of a social medium in our history. In the last 20 years, obesity rates have risen at a faster rate than ever before (it's not just the food that's to blame, it's the lack of exercise), and a fair portion of the western world are now slaves to their hand-held gizmos to the point that face-to-face communication has become second place. But I'm not overly concerned, as we can't blame the companies that produce the technology. People do have freedom of choice, and they have chosen. It'd be like blaming religion for the fact that most people lack self-sufficiency and need to feel like an outside force is governing their lives. If religion didn't exist, they'd find something else to latch onto. While many people in the west are still religious (numbers are dwindling), I'd still argue that the combination of money and technology have become their new god. |
| GratefulFan 09.04.2011 13:39 |
tcc wrote: lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk Perhaps the solution to your fear in talking to people in real life is to learn to curb your temper, practise tolerance and seek the companionship of people who have the same interest as you so that they can bring out the best in you. ============================= Holy crap. Tolerance for what? All the gratuitous abuse she gets around here? Nobody should be tolerating abuse. "Hey go fuck yourself __________" (goodco, Sir GH, etc.) is what's about right I think. |
| emrabt 09.04.2011 14:31 |
Holy crap. Tolerance for what? All the gratuitous abuse she gets around here? Nobody should be tolerating abuse. "Hey go fuck yourself __________" (goodco, Sir GH, etc.) is what's about right I think. ======================== Apart from making annoying threads she doesn’t really do anything that bad, most of the people who get abuse thrown at them deserver it, Treasure “I’m fantastic” moment, lost “I’ll cut you up and ship you around the world” man and goodoldfashion “post the same thing in every thread and repeatedly ask the same questions” loverboy. Julia is just a typical teenage girl, an easy target and admittedly not the most intelligent of people. This thread is a good example, she has been diagnosed with Aspergers (which IS on the autistic spectrum, no matter what the husband of a teacher above says), it's not her fault they over diagnose these things, but in typical dramatic 13 year old style she makes a thread about it to find out what people think, stupid, yes, but doesn’t deserve half the abuse she gets. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 09.04.2011 14:49 |
emrabt wrote: Holy crap. Tolerance for what? All the gratuitous abuse she gets around here? Nobody should be tolerating abuse. "Hey go fuck yourself __________" (goodco, Sir GH, etc.) is what's about right I think. ======================== Apart from making annoying threads she doesn’t really do anything that bad, most of the people who get abuse thrown at them deserver it, Treasure “I’m fantastic” moment, lost “I’ll cut you up and ship you around the world” man and goodoldfashion “post the same thing in every thread and repeatedly ask the same questions” loverboy. Julia is just a typical teenage girl, an easy target and admittedly not the most intelligent of people. This thread is a good example, she has been diagnosed with Aspergers (which IS on the autistic spectrum, no matter what the husband of a teacher above says), it's not her fault they over diagnose these things, but in typical dramatic 13 year old style she makes a thread about it to find out what people think, stupid, yes, but doesn’t deserve half the abuse she gets. ========================== im 14 and all im doing is trying to get find GOOD things about asperges, people always act like its a terrible thing yet there are some good things about it and i was simply asking (sorry not being mean) |
| GratefulFan 09.04.2011 14:52 |
I'm not even sure it's fair to call her threads that generate conversation annoying. She's very expressive, so whatever she's thinking comes flying out, and when it doesn't work the thread drops and dies and when it does plenty of people end up participating. If I post a thread that generates participation I don't think of that as a failure of any kind. Why should hers be held to any other standard than that? |
| lifetimefanofqueen 09.04.2011 15:03 |
GratefulFan wrote: tcc wrote: lifetimefanofqueen wrote: i can talk online, its in real life i shut myself out and dont talk Perhaps the solution to your fear in talking to people in real life is to learn to curb your temper, practise tolerance and seek the companionship of people who have the same interest as you so that they can bring out the best in you. ============================= Holy crap. Tolerance for what? All the gratuitous abuse she gets around here? Nobody should be tolerating abuse. "Hey go fuck yourself __________" (goodco, Sir GH, etc.) is what's about right I think. ===================================== couldnt agree more with you greatfulfan! :) well its nice to see that some people here arent compete ass holes |
| lifetimefanofqueen 09.04.2011 15:05 |
GratefulFan wrote: I'm not even sure it's fair to call her threads that generate conversation annoying. She's very expressive, so whatever she's thinking comes flying out, and when it doesn't work the thread drops and dies and when it does plenty of people end up participating. If I post a thread that generates participation I don't think of that as a failure of any kind. Why should hers be held to any other standard than that? ============================ aye, if people dont like it why shit theselves over it |
| emrabt 09.04.2011 15:25 |
I'm not even sure it's fair to call her threads that generate conversation annoying. Why should hers be held to any other standard than that? =========== Of course it's my opinion, they can't annoy me that much or I wouldn't post in them. It does make me laugh when people dramatically claim Julia’s being dramatic, hypocrites. =============== im 14 and all im doing is trying to get find GOOD things about asperges, people always act like its a terrible thing yet there are some good things about it and i was simply asking ============ See people make out it's a big thing but, to be honest it make no difference weather they say you have it or not, nothings going to change. Having yourself labelled with aspergers means nothing, if you understand, it’s neither “good” or “bad”. You can learn to be “normal and integrate if you want, or you can be a reclusive eccentric, just like without the diagnoses. you can either do the hard thing, build up confidence and go out and make friends, or do the easy thing, Aspergers has very little to do with it, You do get to see both worlds, as it were. . |
| GratefulFan 09.04.2011 15:26 |
lifetimefanofqueen wrote: well its nice to see that some people here arent compete ass holes ========================== I think more often than not it's people who are fine people and likely good at many things, but putting themselves in other's shoes and understanding that there are things they just don't have the necessary experience to properly comprehend aren't among them. That said it doesn't excuse the liberties people take with you and it never will. A grown man calling a young woman a whore of any kind in this circumstance is pretty damn grim. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 09.04.2011 15:38 |
GratefulFan wrote: A grown man calling a young woman a whore of any kind in this circumstance is pretty damn grim. ================= aye |
| YannickJoker 09.04.2011 21:00 |
You know what, one of my best friends has autism and my little nephew is being tested for it as 'they' think he has it as well. Now, that friend is a very smart and creative guy, with a very high IQ, who just has a very little problem with his social skills. However, not every autism is the same kind of autism. I know that, as my nephew isn't very clever and he deals with his supposed autism in a different way. Now, Julia, I think you're very annoying. Having seen some of your tweets, let me quote it as it's all over the web so I don't think I'm offending your privacy with this: "dear diary, i dont know what to say so i'll say this, i fucking hate roger taylors new wife, kill kill kill" "THE WORLD SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "really really wants to kill a few people right now, mother fuckers deserve it, they wont leave me the fuck alone," "mr blobby scares teh shit out of me" I don't really recognize a normal human being in there. I just see a very agressive narcistic person in there. It may be puberty, it may not be puberty, and it could be autism, but there's a reason people give you a lot of flak. Autism is not an excuse to be agressive, nor should you use it as an excuse for anything, which you have done a few times. It can mean you don't know when people don't like what you say or when you're being stupid but I think every human being knows 'kill kill kill' isn't very nice. Trying to help you here. P.S.: If you do think I'm offending your privacy with the posting of your tweets, tell me and I'll remove them. But you're placing them on the web yourself so you shouldn't really be offended. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 09.04.2011 21:49 |
YannickJoker wrote: You know what, one of my best friends has autism and my little nephew is being tested for it as 'they' think he has it as well. Now, that friend is a very smart and creative guy, with a very high IQ, who just has a very little problem with his social skills. However, not every autism is the same kind of autism. I know that, as my nephew isn't very clever and he deals with his supposed autism in a different way. Now, Julia, I think you're very annoying. Having seen some of your tweets, let me quote it as it's all over the web so I don't think I'm offending your privacy with this: "dear diary, i dont know what to say so i'll say this, i fucking hate roger taylors new wife, kill kill kill" "THE WORLD SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "really really wants to kill a few people right now, mother fuckers deserve it, they wont leave me the fuck alone," "mr blobby scares teh shit out of me" I don't really recognize a normal human being in there. I just see a very agressive narcistic person in there. It may be puberty, it may not be puberty, and it could be autism, but there's a reason people give you a lot of flak. Autism is not an excuse to be agressive, nor should you use it as an excuse for anything, which you have done a few times. It can mean you don't know when people don't like what you say or when you're being stupid but I think every human being knows 'kill kill kill' isn't very nice. Trying to help you here. P.S.: If you do think I'm offending your privacy with the posting of your tweets, tell me and I'll remove them. But you're placing them on the web yourself so you shouldn't really be offended. ============================= im not using aspergers as an excuse, i just know i get fucked around with all the time for doin nothing to people (as i said, i aint agressive and get my point of view across in reality because if i try i muddle the words up) and i get pissed off easily (not aspergers, not puberty its just me) so if i get it out on there directing it at nobody its better than taking it out on any of you lot isnt it, thats my way of calming down |
| Donna13 10.04.2011 00:02 |
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| The Real Wizard 10.04.2011 00:48 |
Donna13 wrote: "I think they are looking at environmental causes" I sure hope so. If they look hard enough, that should solve about 90% of the cases. "But everyone has something, in my opinion, that they must cope with: shyness, arrogance, fear, anxiety, worry, rudeness, lack of understanding just how dumb they are, and that sort of thing." Exactly. But Ritalin can fix it.. |
| Donna13 10.04.2011 10:41 |
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| Thistle 10.04.2011 14:50 |
My brain hurts. |
| lifetimefanofqueen 10.04.2011 15:20 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: My brain hurts. ============================ same ._. |
| emrabt 11.04.2011 00:50 |
Autism has no cure ================= Why cure it, why the need to make everyone like everyone else. Those that are badly affected are unaware, but happy. and those that arn't badly affected live with it. it’s a case of different automatically equalling wrong. |
| The Real Wizard 11.04.2011 09:43 |
But if we all don't think the same, we won't needlessly consume, worship the same god and condemn those who are different from us, and thereby feel that sense of superiority... duh! What were you thinking ?? |
| Silken 12.04.2011 11:06 |
YannickJoker wrote: Now, Julia, I think you're very annoying. Having seen some of your tweets, let me quote it as it's all over the web so I don't think I'm offending your privacy with this: "dear diary, i dont know what to say so i'll say this, i fucking hate roger taylors new wife, kill kill kill" "THE WORLD SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" "really really wants to kill a few people right now, mother fuckers deserve it, they wont leave me the fuck alone," "mr blobby scares teh shit out of me" I don't really recognize a normal human being in there. I just see a very agressive narcistic person in there. It may be puberty, it may not be puberty, and it could be autism, but there's a reason people give you a lot of flak. Autism is not an excuse to be agressive, nor should you use it as an excuse for anything, which you have done a few times. It can mean you don't know when people don't like what you say or when you're being stupid but I think every human being knows 'kill kill kill' isn't very nice. Trying to help you here. ************************************************************************** I don't think it's Asperger's what makes her be "aggressive". I don't even think she's an aggressive person. I just think it's puberty. When I was her age I would write things like that, but nobody knew because thank God internet didn't exist and everything was kept private. |
| The Real Wizard 12.04.2011 11:44 |
"I am all for everyone having a voice. I just don't think everyone has earned the microphone. And that's what the internet has done." -- Aaron Sorkin |