| jamster1111 14.03.2011 12:44 |
Has anyone got any of the bonus tracks yet?...specifically '39 from Earls Court 1977 and YTMBA from Hyde Park 1976. If so you wanna send them to me or share it with us who don't live in the UK and can't buy it yet? |
| Adam Baboolal 14.03.2011 12:55 |
Listen to previews for free here - link On Queen 1, I'm left wondering why the De Lane Lea tracks have noise on em. BUT...they may have left it to preserve the sound as denoising can kill a track's sound. The Larry Lurex tracks on the FM box being a PRIME example of over the top denoising. Adam. |
| jamster1111 14.03.2011 13:12 |
I've heard the previews. |
| jamster1111 14.03.2011 13:13 |
jamster1111 wrote: Has anyone got any of the bonus tracks yet?...specifically the videos for Liar and Stone Cold Crazy. If so you wanna send them to me or share it with us who don't live in the UK and can't buy it yet? |
| GinjaNinja 14.03.2011 13:17 |
The De Lane Lea demos are transferred from Brian's acetate, so that's why there is surface noise present. |
| Adam Baboolal 14.03.2011 13:31 |
GinjaNinja wrote: The De Lane Lea demos are transferred from Brian's acetate, so that's why there is surface noise present. While that was where I believed they came from, my point about why the noise is still there, stands. In this day and age, there are some wonderful denoising tools available, however, they chose not to alter them. I find it interesting, is all :) Anyhoo, had a listen to all the previews and they generally sound very nice. But, for whatever reason, I wasn't "feeling" ANATO. I think it sounds a little withdrawn - a little quieter and less full sounding. Overall, I like the extra separation of the instruments I can hear. But heck, I am listening on my computer speakers, so maybe a trip to my studio will grant me a better listen! Adam. |
| Projector Freddie 14.03.2011 14:26 |
I'm in the same boat as jamster. I'm American. *cough* zack.brown@me.com is my email *cough* *cough* I dont even care if they are in mp3*cough* |
| jamster1111 14.03.2011 14:58 |
Projector Freddie wrote: I'm in the same boat as jamster. I'm American. *cough* zack.brown@me.com is my email *cough* *cough* I dont even care if they are in mp3*cough* *cough* as I said through facebook, I'm sending YTMBA and '39 to your email now. *cough* I still want the video of Liar from the rainbow. |
| jamster1111 14.03.2011 15:27 |
Here's White Queen from the rainbow in CRYSTAL CLEAR QUALITY: link or link Now can someone over in the UK purchase Liar from the rainbow off itunes and put it on mediafire please :) |
| marvinp01 14.03.2011 18:23 |
*cough* Im American too and id like YTMBA and '39 please! *cough* grrper@bellsouth.net thank you! |
| spaceboy1972 14.03.2011 18:50 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Listen to previews for free here - link On Queen 1, I'm left wondering why the De Lane Lea tracks have noise on em. BUT...they may have left it to preserve the sound as denoising can kill a track's sound. The Larry Lurex tracks on the FM box being a PRIME example of over the top denoising. Adam. Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I downloaded the De Lane Lane Lea demos and put them on cd (yes I know - they're mp3's!) and initially was surprised by the surface noise - but it kinda reminded me of the overdriven sound of Deep Purple In Rock (some of which, incidentally, was recorded at De Lane Lea) and was wowed by the overall feeling. |
| Freddie rey 14.03.2011 19:13 |
please, 39 and YTMBA for me too: jjtc_1989@hotmail.com thanks a lot |
| victor fleitas 14.03.2011 20:06 |
Hi! Id love if you send me those tracks to me too!! Thankyou verey very very much!!! :) lord_victor_fleitas@hotmail.com |
| gastelllo 14.03.2011 21:08 |
hehehe I need these track as well - g@@@@@@gmail.com :) Update: Got email. Thanks. Thanks. |
| jamster1111 14.03.2011 22:13 |
Ok I'll send those tracks to all of you very soon but in the meantime you can hear them here: link link |
| jamster1111 14.03.2011 22:25 |
Ok i sent it! |
| victor fleitas 14.03.2011 22:42 |
Thank You Very Very Much!!! :) |
| Projector Freddie 15.03.2011 00:00 |
haha. had no idea it was you :) |
| pittrek 15.03.2011 01:39 |
The 2 live tracks sound amazing |
| Queenman!! 15.03.2011 02:18 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: GinjaNinja wrote: The De Lane Lea demos are transferred from Brian's acetate, so that's why there is surface noise present. While that was where I believed they came from, my point about why the noise is still there, stands. In this day and age, there are some wonderful denoising tools available, however, they chose not to alter them. I find it interesting, is all :) Anyhoo, had a listen to all the previews and they generally sound very nice. But, for whatever reason, I wasn't "feeling" ANATO. I think it sounds a little withdrawn - a little quieter and less full sounding. Overall, I like the extra separation of the instruments I can hear. But heck, I am listening on my computer speakers, so maybe a trip to my studio will grant me a better listen! Adam. ==================== It's says again something about the QP mentality. |
| Rick 15.03.2011 04:02 |
This is definitely the best version of YTMBA. The quality is simply outstanding. |
| victor fleitas 15.03.2011 04:09 |
On 39, In the middle part, from 1:50, roger voice turns completly different, I guess they did a overdubb there... they should have used the hole part of roger's overdubb on that part. the change on his voice is too noticeable... anyways, his voice wasnt on top-notch on that day... :P Anyways, is Amazing! and YTMBA, is simply Stunning... |
| Bo Rhap 15.03.2011 04:13 |
Those tracks sound absolutely fantastic. On the evidence of these tracks,i would buy the first five albums.As if i needed an excuse.Now i'll have to get the money. |
| Hangman_96 15.03.2011 04:47 |
Thank you very much for the tracks! They sound amazingly awesome! |
| ploughman 15.03.2011 04:50 |
victor fleitas wrote: "On 39, In the middle part, from 1:50, roger voice turns completly different, I guess they did a overdubb there... they should have used the hole part of roger's overdubb on that part. the change on his voice is too noticeable... anyways, his voice wasnt on top-notch on that day... :P Anyways, is Amazing! and YTMBA, is simply Stunning... I HIGHLY doubt that it is an overdub. Overdub means, that Roger should have done in the studio this year or previous year and I dont think he still has that high falsetto." -------------------------------- More likely it is flown from a different concert (maybe somewhere during the Live Killers tour) where they have multitracks. OR It is don with studio tricjery by copy pasteing his voice on that part from some second before, applying some clever editing and pitch sifting...hence it sounds a bit different. I don't really remember many concerts where Roger nailed the whole middle part of 39. It's a damn hard thing to produce live. I think even the Live Killers thing is a studio overdub, since he didn't nail it on the live bootleg (Frankfurt 1979 was it) where the recording comes from. |
| DaveyLane 15.03.2011 05:51 |
victor fleitas wrote: Hi! Id love if you send me those tracks to me too!! Thankyou verey very very much!!! :) lord_victor_fleitas@hotmail.com May I also hear those tracks too? daveylane@hotmail.com |
| jondickens1 15.03.2011 07:44 |
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| sbazb 15.03.2011 08:37 |
ploughman wrote: victor fleitas wrote: "On 39, In the middle part, from 1:50, roger voice turns completly different, I guess they did a overdubb there... they should have used the hole part of roger's overdubb on that part. the change on his voice is too noticeable... anyways, his voice wasnt on top-notch on that day... :P Anyways, is Amazing! and YTMBA, is simply Stunning... I HIGHLY doubt that it is an overdub. Overdub means, that Roger should have done in the studio this year or previous year and I dont think he still has that high falsetto." -------------------------------- More likely it is flown from a different concert (maybe somewhere during the Live Killers tour) where they have multitracks. OR It is don with studio tricjery by copy pasteing his voice on that part from some second before, applying some clever editing and pitch sifting...hence it sounds a bit different. I don't really remember many concerts where Roger nailed the whole middle part of 39. It's a damn hard thing to produce live. I think even the Live Killers thing is a studio overdub, since he didn't nail it on the live bootleg (Frankfurt 1979 was it) where the recording comes from. ----------------- I don't think Roger's harmony in '39 at Earls Court is "flown in" from another concert. To me it sounds like there just some subtle mixing going on - When Roger is hitting the high notes he should be, he is slightly higher in the mix. When he's not hitting them or drifting off pitch, Freddie is slightly higher in the mix - It kind of creates the illusion that he sung the whole part perfectly because the mix is deliberately quite fluid - Can't really explain properly, but basically you become accustomed to hearing Roger's part of the harmony drifting past now and again and therefore expect his high notes to always be in there somewhere, when sometimes they're not. Listen carefully and see if you can see what I mean... |
| pittrek 15.03.2011 08:41 |
'39 COMES FROM A DIFFERENT NIGHT ! It's not coming from the FIRST night, it's coming from the SECOND night at Earls Court :-) It was discussed here already :-) |
| sbazb 15.03.2011 08:47 |
Yes, I know it's from a different night :). I was responding to the people claiming that Roger's vocal has been digitally manipulated or "flown in" from another concert - I don't think that's the case, there is just some subtle mixing going on to make it seem like he hits all the notes, when he didn't in reality. If you listen carefully you can hear him tailing off and Freddie's voice becoming higher in the mix. I don't think he ever hit all the high notes live in that part of '39, but I'm prepared to be proven wrong... |
| Bo Alex 15.03.2011 08:49 |
Please, send the live tracks to me too. ale_q1607@hotmail.comç Thanks in advance!! |
| deleted user 15.03.2011 09:13 |
I would like to have those live tracks too Please e-mail me at: queenkaleta@gmail.com thanx in advance :-) |
| rhyeking 15.03.2011 09:20 |
I just listened to the previews and maybe someone can explain this to me. "The Night Comes Down" which appears on Queen 1 is, as we know, the De Lane Lea recording. No secret there. So does that mean the Bonus Track version on the Deluxe Edition differs only in retaining the surface noise from the acetate? Or was there post-production work done on the track for it's inclusion on Queen 1, allowing for a significant difference between the acetate and the album versions? The album has been remastered, so does that alone account for the improved sonic quality between the "Album Version" of the DLL Demo of TNCD and the Bonus Track version? |
| Hangman_96 15.03.2011 09:28 |
Please, send bonus tracks to me. Write me a PM and I'll give my email. Very need them! Thanks in advance! |
| The Real Wizard 15.03.2011 12:05 |
rhyeking wrote: The Night Comes Down" which appears on Queen 1 is, as we know, the De Lane Lea recording. No secret there. So does that mean the Bonus Track version on the Deluxe Edition differs only in retaining the surface noise from the acetate? Or was there post-production work done on the track for it's inclusion on Queen 1, allowing for a significant difference between the acetate and the album versions? =========== The mix is different on the Queen I version, but it is musically the same recording. That much I know. |
| rhyeking 15.03.2011 12:10 |
Thanks, Sir GH, I suspected as much. |
| john bodega 15.03.2011 13:01 |
God bless keepvid.com |
| cmi 15.03.2011 15:01 |
Sir GH wrote: rhyeking wrote: The Night Comes Down" which appears on Queen 1 is, as we know, the De Lane Lea recording. No secret there. So does that mean the Bonus Track version on the Deluxe Edition differs only in retaining the surface noise from the acetate? Or was there post-production work done on the track for it's inclusion on Queen 1, allowing for a significant difference between the acetate and the album versions? =========== I hear some different vocal lines in the choruses, so possibly there was some additional post-production in Trident Studios over De Lane Lea recording for Queen album version. |
| MrFunster 15.03.2011 16:28 |
I paid for the songs on we7.com but I still can't download the songs. It says it's not available for download, anyone knows what I'm doing wrong link Thanks anyway. |
| Thomas Henrique 15.03.2011 17:04 |
Send me the live tracks, please! thomashvm@gmail.com Thanks! |
| eliotidiot 15.03.2011 17:11 |
plese send me those too, my email is n.eliot@yahoo.com.mx thanx in advance |
| deleted user 15.03.2011 17:13 |
Frisian wrote: I paid for the songs on we7.com but I still can't download the songs. It says it's not available for download, anyone knows what I'm doing wrong link Thanks anyway. Reply: At £1.35 per track it even makes iTunes seem reasonable. You don't even get the bonus videos? |
| Thistle 15.03.2011 20:09 |
Someone just boot me if I'm being thick, but for all the guys who are moaning that the remasters haven't hit their nation yet - why can't they just be bought online, through ebay or amazon or something? I don't think the sellers there would give a toss that you're not meant to have them yet. |
| fran1979 15.03.2011 23:53 |
Please send me those tracks too!!! mermanrock@hotmail.com Thanks in advance |
| Groucho Marx 15.03.2011 23:57 |
*cough* - I just want everyone to know that not ALL Americans are here to get people to buy MP3s so we can leech off of them - *cough* |
| inu-liger 16.03.2011 01:56 |
Thistleboy, not everyone in North America has credit cards that they can use to order shit onlline. Most major online retailers do not even take PayPal, which I find quite ridiculous by now. You also have to take into account too the overall costs of buying all the albums plus shipping and (where applicable) custom duty charges. PS. There are leechera ANYWHERE you go in the world. No use singling out one country. |
| dive2063 16.03.2011 11:44 |
please send me those songs. obs@ukr.net big thanks in advance!! |
| mooghead 16.03.2011 16:29 |
inu-liger wrote: Thistleboy, not everyone in North America has credit cards that they can use to order shit onlline. Good point. Just steal the music then. |
| Sonia Catalano 16.03.2011 17:31 |
Wow, thoroughly enjoyed the remaster of You Take My Breath Away, a truly quintessential and underrated Queen song. Now though, I can spot a couple of areas where the producers have polished things up: 1. a couple of piano flubs, on the same part, 1) right before the bridge and 2) right at the end of the vocals 2. generally, it seems like they've done some pitch correcting to Fred's voice and "filled" it out a little more at the places where it sounded a little dry and weak Compare with the original audio track here: link I'm not sure that the pitch-correcting to Fred's voice was necessarily: the original sounds almost pitch perfect and the ever so slight deviations (only perceptible to geeks) add colour to that fantastic, dynamic, and emotional performance. The pitch correcting is not anywhere near the Michael Buble, or Cher vocoder-like level, of course, but the purest can spot it. Anyhoo, overall, the spirit of that performance is definitely still there and in spades. Man that group kicked so much ass. |
| Sheer Brass Neck 16.03.2011 18:46 |
Hi mike.riffone, as someone who really detests Michael Buble, does he use autotune and pitch correction a lot? I always thought he was supposed to be a throwback to the great singers of yesteryear. |
| rhyeking 16.03.2011 19:14 |
I'm not a fan of auto-tuning vocals and using vocoders or similar effects processors to anchor a singing career. Some bars and clubs I got to will play that stuff ad nauseum. If a singer can actually sing, they shouldn't need to rely on those. If an artist wants to use an effect on their voice for part of a song or only once in a while, no problem. To me, though, too much of it sounds like an old Commodore 128 trying to sing. |
| Sonia Catalano 16.03.2011 20:15 |
Sheer Brass Neck wrote: Hi mike.riffone, as someone who really detests Michael Buble, does he use autotune and pitch correction a lot? I always thought he was supposed to be a throwback to the great singers of yesteryear. Hi Sheer, Yes, Buble does use some auto-tune/pitch correcting mechanism on his big Haven't Met You Yet. To me, it sounds like it's being used to correct/perfect the vocal melody on that song, as opposed to Cher's Believe where it's used more as an deliberate artistic colour to the song. The comparison to a Commodore C64/128 is a good one. Buble's style is a throwback, but the originals never used autotune. Again, what exactly is being used on YTMBA is hard to tell (any music producers out there?), but something has been used to smooth out at least the volume of Fred's voice, and I strongly believe the pitch too: if you relax and listen to it, the vocal melody seems to "hang around" at discrete notes instead of flowing between notes and the volume definitely sounds filled in, compared to the original. The volume, OK, I can live with that, but the pitch correction, sheesh, if there was ever a singer that so did *not* need that help, I give you Freddie. But alas, the world of millions of mixing board knobs to twirl, analog sound dynamics, and, frankly, better production values (was listening to Judas Priest's British Steel recently - awesome *sounding* record in a completely analog way), are long gone, let alone, singers and players that have truly honed their craft. For the most part anyway. |
| Ray D O'Gaga 16.03.2011 20:25 |
Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Someone just boot me if I'm being thick, but for all the guys who are moaning that the remasters haven't hit their nation yet - why can't they just be bought online, through ebay or amazon or something? I don't think the sellers there would give a toss that you're not meant to have them yet. I patiently await my imported discs from the good people at Amazon.co.uk, who promptly told me the remasters were on backorder and more were expected from the distributor. Tom Petty was right. The waiting truly is the hardest part. |
| Jasonite 16.03.2011 20:34 |
I would absolutely love the bonus tracks! email them to me if you can, thanks! It's jasonite@hotmail.com J |
| MERQRY 16.03.2011 21:23 |
mike.riffone wrote: Wow, thoroughly enjoyed the remaster of You Take My Breath Away, a truly quintessential and underrated Queen song. Now though, I can spot a couple of areas where the producers have polished things up: 1. a couple of piano flubs, on the same part, 1) right before the bridge and 2) right at the end of the vocals 2. generally, it seems like they've done some pitch correcting to Fred's voice and "filled" it out a little more at the places where it sounded a little dry and weak Compare with the original audio track here: link I'm not sure that the pitch-correcting to Fred's voice was necessarily: the original sounds almost pitch perfect and the ever so slight deviations (only perceptible to geeks) add colour to that fantastic, dynamic, and emotional performance. The pitch correcting is not anywhere near the Michael Buble, or Cher vocoder-like level, of course, but the purest can spot it. Anyhoo, overall, the spirit of that performance is definitely still there and in spades. Man that group kicked so much ass. ------------- Sorry but they not used autotune for these song... The youtube video is from an Old,worn-out and high generation Vhs source that Run a bit SLOW (or at least out of tone) and the audio is From the Video feed (On fact Has some inconsistences of tone,noise,some lines are lost,etc) They not improve these Vhs sound but they used the Multitracks or at least a good Soundboard Source.... (Anyway If you listen the audience recording you will to realise a bit) |
| The Real Wizard 16.03.2011 21:33 |
There is definitely no auto-tune used here. The Hyde Park video soundtrack we've heard for years has this horrible fluttering sound. Listen to the audience recording from the bootleg LP, and you'll hear that Freddie sounds exactly the same as he does on the official release. But Mike is definitely right about the piano fixes... good catch there. |
| Sonia Catalano 16.03.2011 22:20 |
Sorry but they not used autotune for these song... The youtube video is from an Old,worn-out and high generation Vhs source that Run a bit SLOW (or at least out of tone) and the audio is From the Video feed (On fact Has some inconsistences of tone,noise,some lines are lost,etc) They not improve these Vhs sound but they used the Multitracks or at least a good Soundboard Source.... (Anyway If you listen the audience recording you will to realise a bit) ---------- It would be very surprising if the vocal was not cleaned up, pitchwise, by some digitized process (not necessarily autotune). Of course it's difficult to hear the granularity of the vocal sound recording on the bootlegs/audio track of the video/all the other generations of that recording that have been out there for years to be sure, but that's a given and it's not at that level that we're talking about. The remaster vocal track of the song, there sounds like, to me, a lack of dynamic range that comes from digitally compressing the sound into the appropriate key. An analogy would be when you blow up a say 5 MP digital picture of a scene and a high quality 30mm exposure of the same scene: the digital pic will show block-like and discrete "stair steps" whereas the 30mm print will show a continuous flow of colours in the scene. Using that analogy, the remaster vocal is being compressed into those "stair steps", whereas the original tape from that night probably has vocal sound continuity across the ever so slightly flats and sharps in the vocal melody that make it sound, well, human and warm. I'd put money down on that being the case, but only the audio producer, with access to the original recording, could confirm that. |
| MERQRY 16.03.2011 22:47 |
mike.riffone wrote: Sorry but they not used autotune for these song... The youtube video is from an Old,worn-out and high generation Vhs source that Run a bit SLOW (or at least out of tone) and the audio is From the Video feed (On fact Has some inconsistences of tone,noise,some lines are lost,etc) They not improve these Vhs sound but they used the Multitracks or at least a good Soundboard Source.... (Anyway If you listen the audience recording you will to realise a bit) ---------- It would be very surprising if the vocal was not cleaned up, pitchwise, by some digitized process (not necessarily autotune). Of course it's difficult to hear the granularity of the vocal sound recording on the bootlegs/audio track of the video/all the other generations of that recording that have been out there for years to be sure, but that's a given and it's not at that level that we're talking about. The remaster vocal track of the song, there sounds like, to me, a lack of dynamic range that comes from digitally compressing the sound into the appropriate key. An analogy would be when you blow up a say 5 MP digital picture of a scene and a high quality 30mm exposure of the same scene: the digital pic will show block-like and discrete "stair steps" whereas the 30mm print will show a continuous flow of colours in the scene. Using that analogy, the remaster vocal is being compressed into those "stair steps", whereas the original tape from that night probably has vocal sound continuity across the ever so slightly flats and sharps in the vocal melody that make it sound, well, human and warm. I'd put money down on that being the case, but only the audio producer, with access to the original recording, could confirm that. ----------- But darling as Sir Gh and i said, if you listen the Audience recording (and the audience recording don't lie) you will to realise that the vocal is the same! An audience recording is captured live in the moment of the concert and is just the gig sound. You can found the audience recording on Youtube (maybe has a lot of audience noise but the vocals and piano are audible) |
| jamster1111 16.03.2011 22:53 |
Sir GH wrote: There is definitely no auto-tune used here. The Hyde Park video soundtrack we've heard for years has this horrible fluttering sound. Listen to the audience recording from the bootleg LP, and you'll hear that Freddie sounds exactly the same as he does on the official release. But Mike is definitely right about the piano fixes... good catch there. They did an excellent job of fixing the piano parts but there is still one part (I don't remember where it is) where they left in a smudged note. |
| Adam Baboolal 17.03.2011 10:38 |
Oh Mike... silly, silly Mike. That is all! |
| The Real Wizard 17.03.2011 12:00 |
mike.riffone wrote: The remaster vocal track of the song, there sounds like, to me, a lack of dynamic range that comes from digitally compressing the sound into the appropriate key. ============ You make many fair points, but this one does not compute with me. Compression and singing in the right key (or correcting it) are two completely different things. As for audience recordings, even in really bad quality, you can still hear what notes are being sung by the singer. As long as audience members are quiet, the music is heard exactly as it was played, as long as the tape is in good shape. The pitch of the singer won't change (at least, relative to the rest of the music on the tape). I compared the two recordings side by side, and I can assure you, the vocal is untouched on the official release... except for standard things like fixing levels (automation) or adding a bit of compression. |
| Adam Baboolal 17.03.2011 12:11 |
Sir GH is spot on. They are two separate things. I'm the autotune hearing king apparently as I also said buble was shite cause that record had so much autotune on it, it really turned me off. That's why I make a policy of only using it as a last resort, i.e. can't get the singer back to record, live singer never comfortable in studio setting, performance great but one small part isn't in tune, etc. etc. Question for all those downloading these tracks. Who here is actually going to buy them? Personally, once the deluxe CDs are cheap enough, I will be partaking in most if not all of them. I'm really liking the samples I've heard. Adam. P.s. still not listened on studio speakers. |
| GinjaNinja 17.03.2011 14:08 |
I don't think that they will have used auto-tune on YTMBA. However, it does sound like there's a bit on the first "Oh Lord" in See What A Fool I've Been (BBC Session 2011 Mix). Can anyone else hear it? |
| Dr Zoidberg 17.03.2011 14:18 |
Adam Baboolal wrote: Question for all those downloading these tracks. Who here is actually going to buy them? Personally, once the deluxe CDs are cheap enough, I will be partaking in most if not all of them. I'm really liking the samples I've heard. I'm a buyer. John Deacon has six children to maintain. He needs my money. |
| vince73 17.03.2011 14:26 |
Just received the CD's from FEDEX and listened to this two tracks. Great upgrade. Maybe the can release a full show in the future. The sound it's so Good. Can't understand the point to release stripped down mixes without vocals or percussion. It's obvious that 5.1 future releases (Bluray, DVDA or SACD like medium) will alllow you to do this stuff at home. Anyway... happy with the new arrival. |