Queenzone Ghost 03.01.2011 02:18 |
Today Island Records re-issue Queen’s Greatest Hits and Greatest Hits 2 collections, in celebration of Queen’s 40th anniversary. Greatest Hits remains the best selling UK album of all time and combined with Greatest Hits 2 presents the definitive Queen collection. Together they form among one the seminal collections in rock history jointly selling an incredible 40 million copies worldwide. Both albums have been digitally re-mastered for 2011 by Bob Ludwig, the legendary mastering engineer who has worked with U2, Coldplay and Radiohead, and come complete with refreshed sleeve notes. The Greatest Hits re-issues starts what is going to be a huge year for Queen, as 2011 marks the 40th anniversary of their formation in 1971. The Anniversary year kicks off with a major exhibition, ‘Stormtroopers in Stilettos’ – a comprehensive look at the early part of Queen’s career. Taking place in The Old Truman Brewery in the heart of London’s East End the exhibition opens on February 25th running through to March 12th, and will cover the band pre-Queen, their formation and their first five albums from the first half of the 1970’s. Newly signed to legendary label Island Records, and to coincide with the exhibition, the first five albums that Queen released – “Queenâ€, “Queen IIâ€, “Sheer Heart Attackâ€, “A Night At The Opera†and “A Day At The Races – will be re-mastered and re-packaged into special deluxe album formats released in March 2011 Subsequent to the exhibition there will be a major BBC TV Documentary featuring a rare interview with Roger Taylor and Brian May and many other surprises and releases to come through the rest of the year. 2011 will see filming begin of a major Hollywood movie about Queen, starring Sacha Baron Cohen as Freddie Mercury. Acclaimed script writer Peter Morgan (“The Queenâ€,†Frost/Nixon†) is working on the project, which is being produced by GK Films, Robert de Niro’s Tribeca Productions and Queen Films. Buy now here: Greatest Hits: Amazon, Play.com, HMV Track Listing: Greatest Hits 2: Amazon, Play.com, HMV Track Listing: Source: link |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy 03.01.2011 03:17 |
is it intresting to me so called new releases nauseating compilations somebody bought? |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy 03.01.2011 03:26 |
Just can not wait to download already as soon as someone upload in the torrent network |
brians wig 03.01.2011 04:04 |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy wrote: Just can not wait to download already as soon as someone upload in the torrent network ------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps YOU should buy them and upload in the torrent network yourself....? |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy 03.01.2011 04:07 |
brians wig wrote: Goodoldfashionedloverboy wrote: Just can not wait to download already as soon as someone upload in the torrent network ------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps YOU should buy them and upload in the torrent network yourself....? No, no, I wait when them upload somebody |
guild93 03.01.2011 04:25 |
I'd be more interested in the BBC doco than yet another greatest hits re-master. Why do they think the mainstream fans (i.e. QOL subscribers) would be so interested in this, obviously they don't read the forums and see the cynical comments about "another re-packaged greatest hits" predictions. Given the approach is so commercial (i.e. Hit 1 and 2 AGAIN) I'm not holding my breath for too much unseen footage (e.g. more Knebworth bits) on the doco, we can only pray. |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy 03.01.2011 04:29 |
guild93 wrote: I'd be more interested in the BBC doco than yet another greatest hits re-master. Why do they think the mainstream fans (i.e. QOL subscribers) would be so interested in this, obviously they don't read the forums and see the cynical comments about "another re-packaged greatest hits" predictions. Given the approach is so commercial (i.e. Hit 1 and 2 AGAIN) I'm not holding my breath for too much unseen footage (e.g. more Knebworth bits) on the doco, we can only pray. I'm agree with you! More DVD concerts less audio |
brians wig 03.01.2011 05:31 |
Goodoldfashionedloverboy wrote: Goodoldfashionedloverboy wrote: No, no, I wait when them upload somebody ------------------------------------------------ I'm curious to know: Do you plan to BUY any of the re-masters this year? |
pittrek 03.01.2011 06:11 |
is ANYBODY going to buy it ? |
Johnny 1989 03.01.2011 06:56 |
I'm buying them both today, I collect the variations anyway (such as early CD print runs, imports, etc.). I shall report back later today as to the sound quality of both releases, if I get a chance :) |
pittrek 03.01.2011 07:08 |
That would be great. I'm not really interested in compilations, but in the case that the albums will sounds better, I'll probably buy them |
Simulator 03.01.2011 11:55 |
Does anybody know what version of Teo Torriatte is featured on the japanese SHM version ? Somehow I couldn't find that info by googling. |
jamster1111 03.01.2011 12:43 |
How about who cares? |
YannickJoker 03.01.2011 12:49 |
Simulator wrote: Does anybody know what version of Teo Torriatte is featured on the japanese SHM version ? Somehow I couldn't find that info by googling. ==== The one where Deacon sings the lead vocals. |
Josh Henson 03.01.2011 19:54 |
So no word on these yet? |
Wijnand 04.01.2011 02:12 |
I think I will buy the albums when they are on sale :-) And then they will stay sealed next to the other unplayed Queen-cd's (which I've only bought because of other package ...) |
plumrach 04.01.2011 02:36 |
already have the greatest hits collection so i dont need it again (or is that not the point)!? |
Yamaguchi 04.01.2011 02:49 |
I think “BOX SET” will be released like Beatles. |
tcc 04.01.2011 03:59 |
Simulator wrote: Does anybody know what version of Teo Torriatte is featured on the japanese SHM version ? Somehow I couldn't find that info by googling. Teo Torriatte end section choir ?? It was a multi-overdub "virtual" choir, which we recorded sequentially ... it included ourselves, some friends, our girl-friends, and some of our team ..... I particularly wanted it to have a female and child-like quality, as opposed to the very male-sounding We Will Rock You effect .... Brian May, Official Website, Monday 6th December 2004 Extracted from link |
Vali 04.01.2011 04:35 |
pittrek wrote: That would be great. I'm not really interested in compilations, but in the case that the albums will sounds better, I'll probably buy them / / / / / / / Hi Peter ! this is what I found from "ToyKoto" at the QOL forum. It sounds promising: "(...) I'm not going to break it all down on a track by track basis as that would be tedious in the extreme. Every track just seems to have had new life breathed into them. Yes, they sound louder, but not enough to warrant an entry into the annals of the loudness wars. In the main, they just sound fuller - Ludwig has beefed up the bottom, giving every track more body. This is particularly welcome on the "Jazz" and "Innuendo" singles, which positively boom where they once just whimpered. "Innuendo" (the song) and "Headlong" pummel you into submission! In fact, John's bass appears to have been turned up everywhere - "AOBTD" and "Under Pressure" throb at Richter scale level! But, the vocals sound extra fresh, too - it's like the harmonies have gone through a car wash. And everything's now in widescreen - the stereo separation seems to have been pushed further, creating an absolutely revelatory headphone experience. As cliché as it might sound, it feels like listening to these tracks for the first time. Don't panic, though. Bob has cleaned up, but has left everything in the right place. Yes, it all sounds sparkly and gleaming, but there are no sharp shocks or exclamations of "that shouldn't be there!" - this is a job well done! So, buy with confidence and count the days until March!" link |
kruh 04.01.2011 05:31 |
This is pure crap, another compilation, this we allready have. Sad, really sad. |
Benn 04.01.2011 06:30 |
Great news if all the work done has been polising. Perhaps it *IS* possible, after all, to polish a turd and have it become something other than a turd. |
Freddie rey 04.01.2011 06:52 |
can anyone talk about the booklet and package? the photos, the notes....thanks |
Vali 04.01.2011 06:55 |
Freddie rey wrote: can anyone talk about the booklet and package? the photos, the notes....thanks / / / / / / the same guy ho posted the info at the QOL forum said the booklet is ... "crap". Meaning that, no remarkable changes compared to the originals. |
pittrek 04.01.2011 07:22 |
Thanks Vali, that's exactly what I was afraid of :-( So now I know for sure I won't buy it |
Soundfreak 04.01.2011 11:02 |
As long as I cannot compare those "Remasters" in a multitrack tool I believe nothing. People tend to listen more carefully when they think they hear a "remaster". And then they notice things they have forgotten about or never cared about. It was the same with the Beatles' remasters in 2009. Suddenly everyone heard them sounding "as good as never before".....and after a while most people admitted, that nearly nothing had changed. It wasn't even possible to do an "old vs new" comparison on radio stations - cause you heard no difference. So I can't believe in a better stereo seperation....probably there is more bass, but you can do that easily at home.... A remaster is no remix.... |
Kacoblin 04.01.2011 13:24 |
I know I may sound like a broken record. I just can't embelish enough how genius this band is. I personally can't anticipate more the re-releases of their official studio works in march. I know i'm silly naive boy giving his hopes up, but what else do I have to look forward to in the Queen universe. Anytime something Queen turns up, I indugle my impeccable ears in their remasters, remixes, whatever it may be. It does seem like they're just burning a whole in our pockets. Let's face it, by the end of the day were all just happy that this band even existed, and they walk away with a handy loft of prophet. I honestly thinks it's worth every penny. I collect any new or old prints they released. Even if my visions on these new releases are proven futile, i'll still be a very camp and very satisfied Queen fan. I would like to jog everyone's memory for a moment here. What songs [that haven't been releases before] would you like to see placed on every album? This could be quite exciting for some, just to dream of something vernal released from the vaults. |
brians wig 04.01.2011 13:58 |
Wouldn't it be nice if Queen Online uploaded a free track from GH for us all to download and see what it sounded like? It may help improve sales and generate some excitement... |
Thistle 04.01.2011 15:00 |
Artwork - GH is exactly the same, but slightly enlarged and without the red borders. GHII has same artwork, slightly enlarged. Nothing spectacular. Sleevenotes - almost if not exactly the same. No extra pics. CDs/ Island label- CDs look exactly the same, print-wise, but obviously now missing the EMI/Parlophone labels. Also, NOT the Island label I expected to see (palm tree etc) but instead an "I" which resembles an exclaimation mark. Sound - a bit louder, a bit cleaner, nothing spectacular at all. Overall, £20 wasted. If the re-issues of the studio albums are anything like this (i.e pretty much the same and without any extras), I definitely won't be buying. |
brians wig 04.01.2011 17:12 |
After the release in **** of the "high definition Teo Torriate" on the japanese Jewels album (?), I'll be very disappointed if the new remasters don't meet that quality! |
Johnny 1989 04.01.2011 18:44 |
Kacoblin wrote: I know I may sound like a broken record. I just can't embelish enough how genius this band is. I personally can't anticipate more the re-releases of their official studio works in march. I know i'm silly naive boy giving his hopes up, but what else do I have to look forward to in the Queen universe. Anytime something Queen turns up, I indugle my impeccable ears in their remasters, remixes, whatever it may be. It does seem like they're just burning a whole in our pockets. Let's face it, by the end of the day were all just happy that this band even existed, and they walk away with a handy loft of prophet. I honestly thinks it's worth every penny. I collect any new or old prints they released. Even if my visions on these new releases are proven futile, i'll still be a very camp and very satisfied Queen fan. I would like to jog everyone's memory for a moment here. What songs [that haven't been releases before] would you like to see placed on every album? This could be quite exciting for some, just to dream of something vernal released from the vaults. Same here (except the camp part), I myself try & collect worldwide editions & early print runs of the CD albums where I can, although at a reasonable price of course :) Oddly enough for me The Miracle & Innuendo are the ones I'm most excited about as there's quite a few extra tracks known to exist from the sessions of these albums. I'm also rather interested to hear the Queen versions of There Must Be More To Life Than This, Love Kills, Man Made Paradise, Heaven For Everyone (from the AKOM sessions) and would also like to see a proper release of those demos that have existed online for the last 5-10 years but without the tape hissing & compression. |
cmsdrums 05.01.2011 11:24 |
I have now got both new 2011 remasters (wouldn’t have bought them myself, but they were a present, which was nice!) – I have listened to GH1, and can give my own comments/opinion, for what it’s worth. The first thing I think that’s worth pointing out, is that some people’s expectations of a Queen remaster are way above what the end result is ever likely to be. We have to remember that when compared to a lot of the bands of the era (by which I mean early to late 1970’s) Queen’s records were already, for the most part, far superior sonically in terms of the recording techniques used, the quality of the original mixes, and the mastering carried out at the time. As a result, any new remastering of the already very good Queen audio product will usually be carried out with the aim of adding some clarity, ‘sparkle’, definition etc, rather than providing a drastic reimagining that some people expect to hear. However, some bands have albums from the ‘70’s really sound dated, dull, etc… and those are the ones that can benefit far more from a very thorough and completely different remastering, almost to the point of making the actual mixdown sound different. With the above in mind, I am pleasantly pleased with the GH1 remaster on first listening. Without breaking down each track individually, some of the things that have stood out to me are as follows; The early tracks – Seven Seas of Rhye, Killer Queen and Now I’m Here – are the tracks here most in need of some treatment to balance out the tracks on their own, and also make them fit with the rest of the compilation. I think these have been greatly improved in this regard, and the things that didn’t ‘sit’ right in previous remasters seem to have been addressed. The drums have been improved and have more life and clarity, and sit far better in the overall mix. The hi-hats and cymbals especially have a new brightness without being harsh, and the snare seems to new represent more of that ‘Roger Taylor’ sound. Subtleness in the drumming (ghost notes etc..) are more easily noticeable. Sheer Heart Attack, Queen II and A Day At The Races have always seemed to haver ‘big’ tom tom sounds, which whilst my personal preference found this fine, they did seem high in the mix/master in past versions, and tended to boom somewhat in places. The toms have now been toned down and sit far better with the songs. Generally across the board, piano sounds have been made brighter (although this may have made the Seven Seas…intro sound slightly thin?). Stand out individual points to me so far (I emphasise on first listen are); · Freddie’s repeated/echo vocals on the intro of Now I’m Here are much clearer and can be heard fading to the distance · Freddie’s lead vocals on quieter passages (eg Save Me and Play The Game first verses) have far more clarity, and you get the ‘breathiness’ of his delivery as if you are stood next to him · Killer Queen – the kick drum has more life and presence in the song, which makes a difference · The Jazz Tracks; the horribly overloud/poor sounding snare has been tamed somewhat (though this can never be completely eradicated without a remix), and again the toms are reigned in slightly, meaning that the kit sounds more a whole single instrument, which it never has done on previous versions · Flash – the piano, bass and kick drum on the ‘stab’ signature part are more individually identifiable · We Are The Champions: The ride cymbal ‘ping’ can really be determined now, as opposed to before when it often became a ‘wash’ throughout the chorus Remastering to really try to accentuate parts that are buried in the mix, but without ruining the original feel and sound of an album is very tricky. Especially with a band like Queen, where certain frequencies may need enhancing, but to do so may change inherent other key signature parts of the song. If frequencies are enhanced/reduced for example to boost vocals or piano, the sound of Brian’s guitar could easily be affected, thereby really trashing the track. This has been carefully considered here I feel. Whilst I could give a more comprehensive breakdown, I will cap off by stating that (whilst this isn’t a project that we welcomed in front of other releases) the remasters (to my ears) seem the best overall to date, and are a plus to the Queen catalogue. Overall, the tracks sound ‘alive’, fresh and coherent in a way that they may not have done before. I am heartened to think that Island/Universal/QPL between them may just surprise us yet when I consider the effort Bob Ludwig has put into these masters, and I can’t wait for March when the first five gems can be reassessed afresh. I hope this may be of help, and if there is call for it I could provide my thoughts on GH2 after a listen? Cheers |
Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) 05.01.2011 20:58 |
CMSDrums, Your opinions on GH2 would be appreciated here. Mine should be arriving from the UK in 2 weeks. |
AlexRocks 05.01.2011 21:24 |
Wow! What a great write up CMSDrums! Thanks! That was really cool and informative without getting too deep! Rock on! |
silver_salmon 05.01.2011 21:36 |
The thing here, for me, is not make happy the fans but just avoid to give more money to Emi, so now if "new generations" of people interested wants to buy a Queen compilation, will be the Universal copy, nothing more....there is no understanding about what the fans wants to listen. Queen is over along time ago. |
joesilvey 05.01.2011 23:06 |
thank you, CMSdrums for the report... EXACTLY what i wanted to know. I don't need a better booklet... i just want to hear the music i love in the best possible way... |
Soundfreak 06.01.2011 13:46 |
I just got the new versions "borrowed" and put them in a multitrack system. And what I hear and see leads to one conclusion: Keep your old ones ! So far I compared some key tracks of the new GH1 to the version of 2000. Obviously the strategy was to adjust the tracks to each other and also adjust the quieter parts to the louder sections within same songs. Bohemian Rhapsody: Here the loudness of the different parts has been adjusted. Unlike before the ""Life had just begun" part nearly reaches the same level as the "So you think you can stone me" part. That means the original dynamic is lost. Some parts have been turned up to 4 dB. We are the Champions: As in BoRap the verses are slightly louder now and the whole song goes up 1 dB. Also the frequencies around 300 to 600 Hz have been raised. If you do that yourself with the old version you will hear no difference. Seven Seas of Rhye: This one is very interesting as it plays faster now. The "old" version always played a bit off-key, those trying to play along at home may have noticed this. The new master is closer to the correct speed. Nearly 5 dB were added with the peaks limited. And this may lead to the impression that some things from the background seem louder now. But they aren't. Bicycle Race: Also 3,5 dB louder than before and interestingly some frequencies were reduced here, mainly the 300 - 600 Hz range and the mid-range of 3-6000 Hz. So it sounds louder and yet softer and less sharp than before. Good old fashioned Loverboy: Also slightly faster now, but not as much as Seven Seas. And again the level was raised nearly 5 dB. So far it's obvious that the strategy of Bob Ludwig was to make all the songs sound a bit more like a "unit" and bring them to a similar loudness level without changing too much. It's okay, it's a way to go and will make new customers happy. But if you search for some real improvement you won't find it here. The best sounding versions of GH 1 and 2 are still to be found on the DVDs. |
tcc 06.01.2011 18:09 |
The Abxolute Greatest Hits album was also remastered by Bob Ludwig. Do the songs in GHI and GH2 sound the same as those in AGH ? |
brians wig 06.01.2011 18:34 |
One would hope that the sound on the Greatest hits albums has been specially done to make them ipod and radio friendly (!), and that the actual studio albums are nearer to what we actually want. I have to raise the obvious question though, and that is how exactly have the albums been "remastered"? Different people on different forums all seem to have their own opinions and some seem to contradict each other. What exactly IS a "remaster" if the songs have not been "remixed"? IF the sound is much clearer and crisper, then surely that implies that Bob has actually worked on the multitracks and NOT, as some are suggesting, been given a stereo copy and played around with a few frequencies. For me, the albums need to have been re-mixed from the original multitracks (as much as possible) to gain nice crisp, clean audio. What I'm expecting are the albums to sound like the "Japanese Jewels" (?) release of Teo Torriatte, which sounds extraordinary. Maybe someone should email Brian and ask him what's been done. |
Soundfreak 07.01.2011 03:15 |
Brians wig wrote: I have to raise the obvious question though, and that is how exactly have the albums been "remastered"? Different people on different forums all seem to have their own opinions and some seem to contradict each other. What exactly IS a "remaster" if the songs have not been "remixed"? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Read my report above. There is no remixing, it's all just EQ and loudness. You can achive all this with simple sound restoring programms. Although I'm convinced that they used the professional versions - which in the end are not that much better than the consumer versions. Everyone else hearing "different sounding drums" or "different voices" ....it's wishful thinking and just the result of EQ and compression. You have no idea what you can make of the "Jazz" album with the right tools... I may add more comparisons on GH2 later or tomorrow. |
cmsdrums 07.01.2011 07:19 |
Soundfreak wrote: Everyone else hearing "different sounding drums" or "different voices" ....it's wishful thinking and just the result of EQ and compression. . It's not wishful thinking - the whole point is exactly as you say; by adding different EQs, compression etc.. you can make certain frequencies within the stereo mix (whether is be a snare drum, bass guitar, vocal etc..) sound vastly different, and that's exactly what's been done here (although not vastly, but subtlely) |
cmsdrums 07.01.2011 07:32 |
brians wig wrote: What exactly IS a "remaster" if the songs have not been "remixed"? IF the sound is much clearer and crisper, then surely that implies that Bob has actually worked on the multitracks and NOT, as some are suggesting, been given a stereo copy and played around with a few frequencies. For me, the albums need to have been re-mixed from the original multitracks (as much as possible) to gain nice crisp, clean audio. What I'm expecting are the albums to sound like the "Japanese Jewels" (?) release of Teo Torriatte, which sounds extraordinary. For a "remix", the actual multitracks are revisited, where the level of each individual instrument or part can be adjusted within the overall mix of the song (and treated to sound differently etc) A "remaster" only starts at the point of the original stereo mixdown, and therefore the individual levels of parts cannot be changed. However, if, for example the bass guitar is present mainly at a frequency of 200Hz, and the bass is reqired to be louder, then Bob Ludwig can apply a program that will boost or accentuate anything in the stereo mix that is at a frequency of 200Hz, thereby giving the impression that the bass is more prominent in the mix. The Teo Torriate you refer to was actually a full remix from multitracks, and so therefore could be changed completely, hence why it sounds so different to the original mix. If remastering is done thoroughly and carefully, it CAN enhance certain parts within the mix. Whilst some will say it is a science, others call it an art, I'm halfway between the two. It's all well and good comparing the scientific aspects of the actaul track against another earlier version to say 'this has increased by 5DB etc..' but the proof is in actually listening to it and hearing the differences. Obviously the above is a crude summary, but hopefully gives the idea behind the difference between mastering and mixing. |
Soundfreak 07.01.2011 10:21 |
It's all well and good comparing the scientific aspects of the actaul track against another earlier version to say 'this has increased by 5DB etc..' but the proof is in actually listening to it and hearing the differences. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< That's exactly what I do, I put the old and the new track into the multitrack-system and try to make the old one sound like the new one. And then I can see quite exactly what has been done. There is no proof in "actually listening to it" - cause that is totally subjective. I have once attended a press listening session for the Beatles remasters and it was hilarious how people tried to hear so many differences - when there were actually none. The only difference was, that they may have never heard these songs so loud over a PA-System ..... |
Adam Baboolal 07.01.2011 20:09 |
As much as Soundfreak's original post put me off listening to his further thoughts on this, I did read his follow ups after CMS' "review" post and mainly agree with quite a lot of what he (Soundfreak) says. I had a listen to the GH1 remaster online at We7.com and there are some nice remastered tracks on it. But as highlighted by SF, sometimes the dynamic is changed and messes with the overall feel of the track. Even parts may seem highlighted more than normal - I'm reminded of the Killer Queen solo where, one of the harmony guitars seemed a little more prominent than normal. However, I still come away feeling pretty positive about what I listened to. It's not all bad and I do believe there are some nice changes to certain tracks. Now, I can't be bothered re-listening and listing each track with my own observations, so, no go there! Anyway, while it's interesting for us all to listen to and maybe think it's maybe all bad, I actually believe in what someone else said, i.e. the albums versus greatest hits 2011 remasters will be the ones we fans want to listen to. I think that, because, I remember being surprisingly happy with the 2005 ANATO remaster (also by Ludwig?) and looked forward to the idea of him doing the rest. Looks like that time has finally come... Adam. |
brians wig 08.01.2011 06:06 |
cmsdrums wrote: A "remaster" only starts at the point of the original stereo mixdown, and therefore the individual levels of parts cannot be changed. The Teo Torriate you refer to was actually a full remix from multitracks, and so therefore could be changed completely, hence why it sounds so different to the original mix. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's what i feared. If that's the case with the albums, then they STILL haven't done the job right and I'll be keeping my money and dreaming of that alternate universe where the surround mixes took off and every album was done... :( |
Adam Baboolal 08.01.2011 21:19 |
brians wig wrote: cmsdrums wrote: A "remaster" only starts at the point of the original stereo mixdown, and therefore the individual levels of parts cannot be changed. The Teo Torriate you refer to was actually a full remix from multitracks, and so therefore could be changed completely, hence why it sounds so different to the original mix. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's what i feared. If that's the case with the albums, then they STILL haven't done the job right and I'll be keeping my money and dreaming of that alternate universe where the surround mixes took off and every album was done... :( ------------- Dream on Mr Wig........ |
dowens 08.01.2011 22:30 |
Anyone know the official date in March for the first five albums?! |
brians wig 09.01.2011 04:12 |
14th of March I believe. |
Soundfreak 09.01.2011 04:54 |
I found time to go a bit into the new GH2 vs the old GH2. It's also very interesting what can be found here. Once again I'd like to point out, that I'm not putting down the work, it's a way to go. But it doesn't make the old versions worthless. Remember - when they were done they were also sold as "the best ever".... Basically on GH2 the levels have been pushed up extremely. In case of Innuendo nearly 8dB were added to the loud parts while the middle section was only raised around 4 dB. The higher frequencies from 6 to 16 Khz have been slightly reduced. Most interesting is, that the track plays slightly slower while the final chord is faded earlier. A Kind of Magic was also lifted nearly 8dB without other notable changes Under Pressure never really sounded good in my ears and still does not here. Nearly 6 dB louder and with slightly reduced frequencies in the middle and top end. Hammer to fall is treated similar with the middle range around 3 to 6 Khz slightly lifted. The track still plays off-key. I don't want to bore you with further details. As I said before the idea behind those remasters is obviously to adjust the tracks to each other and to be louder than ever. In a way it was also done for the "Rocks" album years ago. The result is a more equal listening experience although the original dynamics of many songs are no longer in it's original form. The problem is less in the change of the recordings. The real problem is, that music with little dynamics, where everything has the same level, is very tiring for human ears. It may sound impressive at first, but after half an hour of listening it's not much fun anymore. So I hope Queen won't go further in this direction than they have done here. |