| kruh 06.12.2010 11:35 |
Hi ! I am new at that forum, but i only got one question. Why was the Hyde Park 76 newer released? I simply dont belive because of bad quality. I think that in our days, the music business have all the tehnology to improve this show (if is realy such a bad qualuity) I think that Queen fans all over the world must make pressure on the Queen record house to do such a think. There is too much compilations, and all we need is a good live album, and Hyde park is a very good live show, so i suggest that we Queen fans do such a think. P. S. Sorry for my bad english! |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 07.12.2010 05:52 |
kruh wrote: Hi ! I am new at that forum, but i only got one question. Why was the Hyde Park 76 newer released? I simply dont belive because of bad quality. I think that in our days, the music business have all the tehnology to improve this show (if is realy such a bad qualuity) I think that Queen fans all over the world must make pressure on the Queen record house to do such a think. There is too much compilations, and all we need is a good live album, and Hyde park is a very good live show, so i suggest that we Queen fans do such a think. P. S. Sorry for my bad english! Hello, no bad quality, there is bad managment QP |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 07.12.2010 06:17 |
I would also like to see Hyde Park in high quality. |
| kruh 07.12.2010 06:23 |
So what can we do about it? I do not want yet another compilation or live album from the eighties. There is enough of this kind of material. Do not get me wrong i love Montreal and Live at the Bowl, but there is nothing from the 70. This is not good and we must do something about that. Does anyone have any suggestions, something must be done, there is also a few other concerts in the seventies, which are worthy of official release. But please not live at the hammersmith, because playlist of the Hyde park and some other concerts is a lot better. Thanks and best regards. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 07.12.2010 06:32 |
You could ask such a question to Gary Talor or Gregory Brooks but they either keep silent or say that the remaining members of the group did not give them authority to speak about such things |
| Sebastian 07.12.2010 06:43 |
That concert does not feature Under Pressure, A Kind of Magic, Radio Ga Ga, I Want to Break Free, Another One Bites the Dust or Crazy Little Thing Called Love. QP think they wouldn't sell shite without those tracks. They're wrong, but do they care? |
| kruh 07.12.2010 06:59 |
So we have to make pressures on the group or the manegmant, but I do not know how. I can not do this alone. Hence, this must be linked to more people. Now is the perfect opportunity because it is approaching forty years anniversary of the group. We have to be intrusive, I see no alternative options. Now is the time to do something! |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 07.12.2010 07:38 |
I don't think tha somethin change in future. If we will press that it's seems to me that new record company ? QP said to us " Fuck off dear fans and enjoy the fact that you buy from bootleggers and do not ask us about a new type of material that you never seen before |
| Bigfish 07.12.2010 08:13 |
I've seen and heard bit and pieces over the years ('39, Bo rhap, Sweet lady, prophet song etc.) and frankly it's just not a good performance. Same goes for Hammy '75. I don't want to see QP or the band promoting inferior product just to satisfy die hard fans - it can only damage the bands reputation. Just be happy with the bootlegs on You tube.. |
| The Real Wizard 07.12.2010 10:15 |
Sebastian wrote:
Radio Ga Ga, I Want to Break Free, Another One Bites the DustDo they actually realize that it's largely because of these very tracks that their popularity suffered in the US? Most fans on this side of the pond remember the 70s Queen, not 80s Queen. If there was a good DVD from their heyday to buy, maybe more people would appreciate them more and put them up there with the Stones, Zeppelin, etc. Until then, to the man on the street they'll be that pop band with the moustached guy, instead of that innovative 70s rock band. |
| The Real Wizard 07.12.2010 10:35 |
Bigfish wrote:
I've seen and heard bit and pieces over the years ('39, Bo rhap, Sweet lady, prophet song etc.) and frankly it's just not a good performance. Same goes for Hammy '75. I don't want to see QP or the band promoting inferior product just to satisfy die hard fans - it can only damage the bands reputation. Just be happy with the bootlegs on You tube..Hyde Park is the closest thing to a bad show they ever did, since they were so nervous. But most of the bad you hear on youtube is the recording - it's a really bad mix. If they have the multitracks, they could make every song sound about as good as this -> link They've already cleaned up Hammersmith 75 and broadcast it on TV last year. |
| mike hunt 07.12.2010 11:22 |
Sir GH wrote: Sebastian wrote: Radio Ga Ga, I Want to Break Free, Another One Bites the Dust Do they actually realize that it's largely because of these very tracks that their popularity suffered in the US? Most fans on this side of the pond remember the 70s Queen, not 80s Queen. If there was a good DVD from their heyday to buy, maybe more people would appreciate them more and put them up there with the Stones, Zeppelin, etc. Until then, to the man on the street they'll be that pop band with the moustached guy, instead of that innovative 70s rock band. Even in the states, Queen will alway's be considered One of the better Bands of all time. Not the top 5 of the beatles, Stones, Zep, The Who, Hendrix, but the next pack of groups. That will never change here. At least worldwide they're considered a top 5 or 10 of the best. I don't want to date myself, but i remember the late 70's clearly. Queen were pretty freakin huge. Everyone around my way loved them until Hot space. After That they were forgotten. It's not like these days. back then either you liked Rock or Disco., Queen fans felt betrayed, a bit silly isn't it?.... but that's how youngster's were back then....... Pop Stars like Duran Duran came around, and Rock fans Started to discover new hard rock/metal like Iron Maiden. |
| mike hunt 07.12.2010 11:33 |
Sir GH wrote: Bigfish wrote: I've seen and heard bit and pieces over the years ('39, Bo rhap, Sweet lady, prophet song etc.) and frankly it's just not a good performance. Same goes for Hammy '75. I don't want to see QP or the band promoting inferior product just to satisfy die hard fans - it can only damage the bands reputation. Just be happy with the bootlegs on You tube.. Hyde Park is the closest thing to a bad show they ever did, since they were so nervous. But most of the bad you hear on youtube is the recording - it's a really bad mix. If they have the multitracks, they could make every song sound about as good as this -> link They've already cleaned up Hammersmith 75 and broadcast it on TV last year. Great video of Sweet lady............ |
| jamster1111 07.12.2010 12:13 |
To be honest. It's probably because musically, the show wasn't very good but the environment was incredible. The main reason why they don't want to release it is because Freddie's singing at that show is off key in a lot of spots. |
| Gregsynth 07.12.2010 12:52 |
jamster1111 wrote: To be honest. It's probably because musically, the show wasn't very good but the environment was incredible. The main reason why they don't want to release it is because Freddie's singing at that show is off key in a lot of spots. ================== His intonation was fine for the most part. My biggest complaint is the damn FLUTTERING on the video, but that mix/matrix that was shared awhile back was awesome (most of the fluttering was gone). Then again, we were treated with Queen: Dubbed At Wembley, I think we can handle a few wrong notes (that are live) at Hyde Park. |
| persuejder 07.12.2010 14:04 |
kruh ti si pa ziher slovenc :)))) |
| persuejder 07.12.2010 14:22 |
well I think that hyde park is not in such poor quality. I belive that listening this version (I downloaded) is slide form that time, like old black/white picture. I can't see point to make it color. it has their own charm. As the matter of fact I am happy to has this gig. Freddies falceto in "You take my breath away" is very rare (only Edinburg has is too). |
| jamster1111 07.12.2010 14:34 |
Greg: Ya but even without the fluttering, he was still off key and songs like Sweet Lady and Flick of the Wrist we're unstable as hell especially with background vocals. If you feel you can't go by the soundboard, just listen to the audience recording. Hyde Park won't be released the same reason why Earls Court won't released. The quality and remastering is not an issue. The real issue is their overall background vocals. |
| kruh 07.12.2010 14:49 |
Ej persuejder. Sem Slovenec saj vidiš, da se matram s to anglešcino. To, da sem kruh nisem mel pojma, foruma nisem še uporabljal. No kaj praviš na to, misliš, da bo kaj iz tega. Malo verjetno ne. Pa naj izdajo kaj drugega iz sedemdesetih, ce že tega ne morejo. To kar eni pravijo, da gre za slabo kvaliteto vokalov najbrž ne drži saj so par pesmi uporabili na dvd- ju A night at the opera. Daj se oglasi kaj, ce te je volja. Ajd pozdrav, se še kaj cujeva. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 07.12.2010 14:58 |
Calm down you. The new record company is not planning to release Queen concerts as it not commercially profitable.Under the label the new company will release remastered albums (I hope that there will be bonus material) will remove film and everything. Nobody knows about future plans |
| Gregsynth 07.12.2010 15:38 |
jamster1111 wrote: Greg: Ya but even without the fluttering, he was still off key and songs like Sweet Lady and Flick of the Wrist we're unstable as hell especially with background vocals. If you feel you can't go by the soundboard, just listen to the audience recording. Hyde Park won't be released the same reason why Earls Court won't released. The quality and remastering is not an issue. The real issue is their overall background vocals. ============ Who cares about that stuff anyway? If you can't listen to a whole show without pinpointing stupid errors like being off key/unstable/wrong notes, then why watch a live concert? I'd take Hyde Park and Hammy 1975 over Dubbed At Wembley. BTW, I have heard the audience recording (Msmamapapa), and the matrix/mix version (on my channel), the vocals are like 95% good. I think we should cut Queen a break because they organized the whole damn event, played for free, and they were nervous as hell (biggest audience of their career up to that point). I think Hyde Park was a great show considering the circumstances. Like what Bob said, most of the "off parts" were audio faults. Any other fault is just stupid to talk about. |
| jamster1111 07.12.2010 18:32 |
Greg: I never said anything about Hammersmith 1975. Now you're just bringing your usual strawman argument. Hammersmith 1975 is a fantastic concert musically. Yes I understand that they were extremely nervous because they were playing in front of 130,000 people for the biggest (so far) concert of their career (and hell, anyone would be nervous), but that's why it's not a good idea to release these types of things. Of course I could watch or listen to a concert without pinpointing certain mistakes or flubs, and I can't stand Dubbed and Wembley just as much as you, but still, I think it would have been much better if they would have filmed one of the Edinburgh gigs of 1976 or perhaps Cardiff, as those would probably make a much better release. I'm still hoping one day that they'll release Rainbow '74, Hammy '75, or Hammy '79, as musically those concerts are incredible. |
| Gregsynth 07.12.2010 19:30 |
I know you didn't bring up Hammy 1975, but the point is still valid because like Hyde Park, nervousness affected the band's performance in some way (it also didn't help that Freddie and Brian were ill). So I didn't straw-man argument! As for Wembley, I like it--but there's better concerts on that tour that I would gladly take over that. |
| MERQRY 07.12.2010 23:19 |
Sir GH wrote: Bigfish wrote: I've seen and heard bit and pieces over the years ('39, Bo rhap, Sweet lady, prophet song etc.) and frankly it's just not a good performance. Same goes for Hammy '75. I don't want to see QP or the band promoting inferior product just to satisfy die hard fans - it can only damage the bands reputation. Just be happy with the bootlegs on You tube.. Hyde Park is the closest thing to a bad show they ever did, since they were so nervous. But most of the bad you hear on youtube is the recording - it's a really bad mix. If they have the multitracks, they could make every song sound about as good as this -> link They've already cleaned up Hammersmith 75 and broadcast it on TV last year. Hey Bob! Anyway this Sweet lady footage (from the 25th ANATO 2° DVD) Not is from the QP master but from the " Don Kirshner's Rock Concert " Tapes... if you watch this video link you can see the mix (video and audio) is Equal... so,i think Is probably (i hope) the QP master tapes with multitracks have much better quality (Or better audio mix at least ) that this sweet lady version Greetings! |
| jamster1111 07.12.2010 23:40 |
Greg: IMO, Hammersmith 1975 is a much better performance than Hyde Park. Freddie's voice isn't as unstable. |
| Gregsynth 07.12.2010 23:47 |
I know Hammy 1975 is better than Hyde Park--but like Hyde Park, there's better (overall) shows that weren't filmed. Dundee and Liverpool come to mind. Hammy 1975 and Hyde Park 1976 are alike in the sense that they are good shows (Hammy's being better), but there's better shows from their respective tours. Also, there's factors that impacted the shows slightly (Band nervousness on both, and illness at Hammy). |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 01:39 |
They were nervous only when performed in London. When they played in other cities, they are not nervous. But is not the case. Why do such as concerts, Hyde Park 19760, live at the Rainbow1974, Hammersmith Odeon 1975 and 1979 are not released, only because that group members were nervous? |
| kruh 08.12.2010 04:15 |
Hello! I am the initiator of this forum to make Hyde park 76 officially released. However, if this is not possible it should be possible to released another concert from this period (but not Hammersmith 75 this is quite good quality already and the playlist is not so attractive) Playlist must contain songs such as Liar, Modern Times Rock 'n' Roll, Seven Seas of Rhye, Stone Cold Crazy, White Queen and so on. The fact that the band was nervous is not an argument because these are only the beginnings of their careers and the fans also need to hear that too. Another fact is that the group has not released anything from this early period, and that is sad, this is because during this period they created the best music. I apologize for bad English. Respected greeting! |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 04:58 |
I agree with you. proponent, but from your desires are very little dependent |
| kruh 08.12.2010 05:38 |
I know that I can not do anything alone. There must be more of us! |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 05:50 |
More of us what you mean? |
| kruh 08.12.2010 06:15 |
I do not know I'm open to suggestions |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 06:28 |
I do not think that your topic is relevant. |
| Rick 08.12.2010 06:38 |
MERQRY wrote: Sir GH wrote: Bigfish wrote: I've seen and heard bit and pieces over the years ('39, Bo rhap, Sweet lady, prophet song etc.) and frankly it's just not a good performance. Same goes for Hammy '75. I don't want to see QP or the band promoting inferior product just to satisfy die hard fans - it can only damage the bands reputation. Just be happy with the bootlegs on You tube.. Hyde Park is the closest thing to a bad show they ever did, since they were so nervous. But most of the bad you hear on youtube is the recording - it's a really bad mix. If they have the multitracks, they could make every song sound about as good as this -> link They've already cleaned up Hammersmith 75 and broadcast it on TV last year. Hey Bob! Anyway this Sweet lady footage (from the 25th ANATO 2° DVD) Not is from the QP master but from the " Don Kirshner's Rock Concert " Tapes... if you watch this video link you can see the mix (video and audio) is Equal... so,i think Is probably (i hope) the QP master tapes with multitracks have much better quality (Or better audio mix at least ) that this sweet lady version Greetings! Very interesting. On the other hand, fragments of other songs performed at Hyde Park exist in good quality: Boh Rhap, Prophet's Song, Keep Yourself Alive, '39 and Flick Of The Wrist. |
| BobbytheCat 08.12.2010 09:17 |
it would be great if they would release something like a box set of 70's shows Rainbow 1974 Hammersmith 1975 Hyde Park 1976 Earls Court 1977 Houston 1977 Hammersmith 1979 maybe with some extra's and interviews they would sell like crazy every Queen fan would want to have it in good quality I would pay good money to have it better quality than I have (with all respect to the makers of them) I just hope it will happen while I'm still alive... |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 09:59 |
Dreaming is not bad. Harmful not to dream. I do not think that Universal will release a box set with these concerts. I am afraid that they will be preying only on audio, I mean studio albums Queen |
| kruh 08.12.2010 10:16 |
I am afraid that also. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 12:25 |
Universal music probably is not profitable and not profitable to release box set of concerts the seventies, because probably there is a risk that it does not pay off, |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 14:28 |
I'd like to mistake |
| kruh 09.12.2010 08:35 |
Publisher will issue the first five albums of the group. This means that we do not get anything new. Long live capitalism. The sad, sad that all the time we get one and the same. Is there anyone buys it at all? |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 09.12.2010 12:21 |
If released and somebody share in torrent I will download |
| kruh 09.12.2010 12:57 |
I would probably do the same. But why they do not make any official release from the seventies (live album), this I really can not understand. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 09.12.2010 14:02 |
Better gift for us,fans this is release concerts 70's |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 10.12.2010 08:08 |
Operator filmed this concert nerd. on Fault of his picture sometimes jumping like old TV and sound is bad Is it interesting to me, this concert was broadcast on television? |
| The Real Wizard 10.12.2010 10:21 |
No it wasn't. Please stop asking that about every show. TV is not the only source for a video to come out. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 10.12.2010 10:29 |
Sir GH wrote: No it wasn't. Please stop asking that about every show. TV is not the only source for a video to come out. Why are you so angry? |
| The Real Wizard 10.12.2010 10:36 |
I'm not angry. I'm just trying to kindly explain to you that not every video comes from TV. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 10.12.2010 10:39 |
Sir GH wrote: I'm not angry. I'm just trying to kindly explain to you that not every video comes from TV. I understood you, I'm sorry if my questions and my english is bad |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 11.12.2010 05:23 |
What songs concert in Hyde Park in 1976, were filmed with a normal racurs and quality? |
| kruh 11.12.2010 06:39 |
Probably all because for the documentary A night at the oprera they cleaned Sweet Lady, Bohemian Rhapsody, The Prophet's Song and that is probably no coincidence. Only the songs from this album for this documentary are cleaned. I therefore conclude that it could clear the whole concert. But they simply do not want this (managment or group). And so will remain until we fans will stay silent. As I have said before it is not necessary to issue this concert. Surely they could issue at least one concert from the early period. But until fans will buy one and the same things thay wont do that. So we must blame ourselves as well. I would much rather have a live album from the early period than, Absolute Greatest or Gretest hits. But this is unlikely to happen soon, if ever. |
| kruh 11.12.2010 08:28 |
Does anyone know where to get the Queen at the Hyde Park remastered. It is much better quality than what I got on queenzone (and no offense to one which it is offered). Look on Youtube. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 11.12.2010 09:29 |
kruh wrote: Does anyone know where to get the Queen at the Hyde Park remastered. It is much better quality than what I got on queenzone (and no offense to one which it is offered). Look on Youtube. I don't think that somebody give you answer on your question because nobody knows or just don't want to talk about it |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 12.12.2010 02:40 |
If anyone watched the documentary A making of A Night At the Opera , we can see that there flashed footage concert in Hyde Park, in good quality. Although perhaps their specially restored for this film. |
| tinawong1226 14.12.2010 06:27 |
Can anyone tell me what illness Fred or Brian caught at the time of Hyde Park show 1976? In my impression, Fred was always healthy and strong those days.. Thanx~ |
| Soundfreak 14.12.2010 09:03 |
It may have economic reasons why they kept the 70s video archive locked. If they had already opened their audio archive, they would have not got the same contract when going to Universal. And the 70s concert archive is another "treasure", that keeps publishing companies interested.... Also we do not know, what quality their tapes are in. It may well be, that they only have the same poor quality from Earls Court as we know. Paul McCartney recently put out a long lost live documentary called "One hand clapping" from 1974 on DVD. It's been available on numerous bootlegs for ages. And to my big surprise the official version is in the same quality as those bootlegs featuring the same drop outs with slightly corrected colours. It was obviously restored from a bootleg source. That made me think........ |
| kruh 15.12.2010 01:35 |
I simply do not believe that quality can not be corrected at least one of these go early appearances. I do not believe, period. |
| pittrek 15.12.2010 01:45 |
It can't be CORRECTED. It can be only OVERDUBBED, which means FAKED. |
| kruh 20.12.2010 01:58 |
Better to be rapired. We do not need a new compilatons or the issue of the old albums. |