| pittrek 13.11.2010 07:09 |
Since we all now have the complete video from the first night at Earls Court 1977, it would be nice to have an "as complete as possible" version of the second night, too. What is "OUT" already ? "Thank you good evening all you rock'n'rollers" by Freddie - I "guess" this belongs after the opening medley, so maybe between Ogre Battle and White Queen ? What do you think ? Brian's "Do you like the gimmicks ?" + Killer Queen - comes from Rare Live The second half of "You Take My Breath Away" - from Champions of the world Freddie's vocal improvisation between White Man and The Prophet's Song - I'm pretty sure I have seen it in one of the many, many documentaries - does anybody know in which one ? Rock 'n' Roll medley - various unofficial sources, best quality video comes from a bootleg DVD called "Rare Live 2", but still has pretty bad quality parts of Jailhouse Rock - Magic Years God Save The Queen - the same bootleg video as the r'n'r medley beginning of God Save The Queen - Magic Years Are there any other sources ? I don't care how long they are, or how SHORT they are :-) I just think it's simply a good idea to collect all information on one place |
| cmi 13.11.2010 07:13 |
I think you have already mentioned all surfaced stuff from this night. Never know about 'Vocal Improvisation' stuff to be leacked. |
| pittrek 13.11.2010 07:33 |
I'm pretty sure that I have seen (here ? ) a thread where another short piece of footage from a documentary was identified as being from the second night, I'll try to find it. |
| Rick 13.11.2010 09:15 |
The second night complete would be a dream come true. Didn't they play Sweet Lady? Also, the camera angles are much better than the first night. Plus, John is seen hitting the triangle ;-) |
| The Real Wizard 13.11.2010 14:20 |
The video of released with the Absolute Greatest package had a few more seconds of chatter before Killer Queen. |
| Ale_Pisa 13.11.2010 14:58 |
I think the video is a shot, 1 minute, on the chmapions of the world doc... I don't remember if this video is YMBF |
| MERQRY 13.11.2010 18:05 |
Also there's a bit of freddies champagne toast from the Second Night (he spilled all his champagne ha ha) In this video also there are many spots (Without Original Audio) from the Second Night Mixed with the fist Night dubbed with the Good Old-Fashioned Lover boy Audio: link Greetings! |
| pittrek 14.11.2010 03:39 |
Thanks for the champagne bit, could you remind me where it can be originally (means pre-Youtube) found ? Thanks |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 11:52 |
It's on disc 2 of Greatest Video Hits 1. The footage of Freddie singing and playing the first two verses is definitely from the second night, and of course the champagne bit is too. I think at this point we can be pretty sure the entire show exists in the QP archive. |
| pittrek 14.11.2010 12:29 |
Yep. If somebody from QP reads this, both nights would make an excellent bonus to the new remaster of Races :-) |
| MERQRY 14.11.2010 16:42 |
No,no the Good old-fashioned Lover Boy of the video is from Greates Flix I (Vhs version) ... The GVH second disc has the "live" mimed performance From Top of the pops. |
| MERQRY 14.11.2010 17:57 |
Oh,i'm also pretty sure that a complete recording of the second night exist In the archives! But i don't know why they posted "you take my breath away" from first night (in conjuntion with the absoulute greatest) if the version from the second night is a bit better cause doesn't has the blow amp noise (that they had to remove).... Greetings! |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 19:39 |
oops, double post |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 19:40 |
MERQRY wrote:
But i don't know why they posted "you take my breath away" from first night (in conjuntion with the absoulute greatest) if the version from the second night is a bit better cause doesn't has the blow amp noise (that they had to remove)....Maybe there's something wrong with the master tape of the second night by that point. Or maybe they just thought the first night's performance was better. |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 19:54 |
MERQRY wrote:
No,no the Good old-fashioned Lover Boy of the video is from Greates Flix I (Vhs version) ... The GVH second disc has the "live" mimed performance From Top of the pops.Of course you're right about GVH1.. ! But look at this scan of the back cover of Greatest Flix - the track isn't included. Nor is it on this version, based on one of the customer reviews.. link So where does this video come from.. ? It uses footage that isn't accessible to collectors, so surely it came from QP at some point.. |
| MERQRY 14.11.2010 20:51 |
The video (on fact the youtube video was made and subtituled in spanish for me) is from a Rare Version from the Greatest flix released Specially and only in Usa.. Apparently Was called "Greatest Hits" and The set list is this: Will Rock You We Are The Champions Another One Bites The Dust Killer Queen Somebody To Love Fat Bottomed Girls Bicycle Race You're My Best Friend Crazy Little Thing Called Love Now I'm Here Play The Game Seven Seas Of Rhye Body Language Save Me Don't Stop Me Now Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy I Want To Break Free Bohemian Rhapsody (Original Version) We Will Rock You - 1991 Remix (Credits) And here there's an image from "snow producciones" web page: link The web master from Snow P. say me a long time ago is a "Do ro" Version of the greates flix but i can't asegurate this cause i don't have any copy of this Vhs. The web master also say me he has a complete (and with excelent quality...altought SP has a little confuse "parameter" for excelent quality ha ha) "Bring back that leroy brown" video From the earls court second night... But again i can't asegurate nothing... Greetings! |
| MERQRY 14.11.2010 21:05 |
Sir GH wrote: MERQRY wrote: But i don't know why they posted "you take my breath away" from first night (in conjuntion with the absoulute greatest) if the version from the second night is a bit better cause doesn't has the blow amp noise (that they had to remove).... Maybe there's something wrong with the master tape of the second night by that point. Or maybe they just thought the first night's performance was better. Or maybe they simply chosed randomly a video from each night (You take from First Night And Killer Queen From The second) QP has a very rare criteria,I must say..... Greetings! |
| GT 14.11.2010 23:08 |
Yes, the video footage from the second night does exist. |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 23:18 |
MERQRY wrote:
The video (on fact the youtube video was made and subtituled in spanish for me) is from a Rare Version from the Greatest flix released Specially and only in Usa.. Apparently Was called "Greatest Hits"Of course, the pink Greatest Hits. I grew up on that CD, and the video had the same track listing. It wasn't rare in the US and Canada. You could buy it anywhere when it came out in the early 90s. The web master also say me he has a complete (and with excelent quality...altought SP has a little confuse "parameter" for excelent quality ha ha) "Bring back that leroy brown" video From the earls court second night...Well, we'll see if that's true. He's done nothing to earn anyone's trust. Cheers! |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 23:21 |
Yes GT, we know it exists. We've seen it ourselves. What we want to know is how much exists? Is the quality consistent? Is there a multi-track of audio in the archives to make a DVD release possible? Even if they just have a mono video feed, that's still good enough for a DVD. It was good enough for The Who for the Kilburn 1977 release. These are the questions we want answered, GT.. not vague responses that amount to nothing more than carrot dangling. You gave a similar (but much more snide) response in a thread related to Paris 2-27-79. Who are you trying to amuse? |
| GT 14.11.2010 23:37 |
The 'Greatest Hits' VHS (Hollywood HR401443) that you mention was released in conjunction with the CD of the same name in the USA in 1992, after the success of the 'Classic Queen' compilation CD and VHS. Here's a pic. |
| The Real Wizard 14.11.2010 23:56 |
GT, at first you seemed like a breath of fresh air, but now it seems like you and Greg are two heads from the same monster, talking mostly about the Greatest Hits packages, giving only the easy answers, and nothing that interests the true fans. Thanks for posting the scan to confirm the VHS situation, but your initial comment was completely uncalled for. If you scroll through this thread, and this forum as a whole, you see a bunch of people dedicated to locating every small piece of footage, with obvious gaps to fill in, and you choose to go out of your way to indicate that you have the ability to help but won't. Very classy. When will the dialogue between fans and Queen Productions finally become meaningful.. ? Ever? |
| GT 15.11.2010 00:20 |
I would like to keep details about certain shows for inclusion in the 'Queen Live: A Concert Documentary' book. Everything you ever wanted to know about Queen in the live domain will be revealed in this publication. People always go off on a tangent in any topic. My help with the 'Greatest Hits' CD/VHS was in response to somebody's question....just like you answered. |
| The Real Wizard 15.11.2010 00:49 |
GT wrote:
Everything you ever wanted to know about Queen in the live domain will be revealed in this publication.Not likely. There are plenty of recordings in the hands of fans and stealth tapers that QP doesn't have copies of. No book will ever tell all. The fact that you spent some time downloading audience recordings from this very website clearly indicates that you didn't have all the necessary information at your disposal. All that aside, do you honestly think your book will sell less copies if you post information on a forum? People always go off on a tangent in any topic.This thread is about Earls Court 77, and the tangent was the Greatest Hits VHS. You responded only to the tangent. Pot, meet kettle. |
| Queenman!! 15.11.2010 03:33 |
GT wrote: I would like to keep details about certain shows for inclusion in the 'Queen Live: A Concert Documentary' book. Everything you ever wanted to know about Queen in the live domain will be revealed in this publication. People always go off on a tangent in any topic. My help with the 'Greatest Hits' CD/VHS was in response to somebody's question....just like you answered. ========================== Dear GT, 1) About certain shows? May I say we will gonna see the old trick happening? So all the info that is already known by the public concerning the footage and snippets that can be seen on the various released DVD's and documentaries 2) Or ....all the videos, snippets, interviews and audioconcerts that are known to be in the archives of QP, the BBC, Brian May (like the multitracks of the Crazy tour topic) etc ? Hope you can aswer my question... will it be option 1 or 2? Best |
| Ghostwithasmile is BACK! 15.11.2010 05:02 |
Here is more info about the Good Old fashioned loverboy. At some point this was released on a videocd as well and featured besides the doro version of Good Old Fashioned loverboy , also the DORO versions of SEVEN SEAS OF RHYE (dubbing with tokyo 85) and A WINTERS TALE (various footage) and the TOO MUCH LOVE WILL KILL YOU.... Was there a video from Classic Queen as well ? I remeber that 1992 (hollywood) rockumentary..... Here is precise info about the good old fashioned loverboy. link |
| Hangman_96 15.11.2010 15:50 |
I have very strange feeling that I saw the moment where Freddie wore a mask during performing some song (it very seems that it was Brighton Rock) from the Earls Court but since first night video doesn't match this moment, it can be from the second night. |
| The Real Wizard 15.11.2010 15:54 |
ghostwithasmile wrote:
Here is precise info about the good old fashioned loverboy. linkCool, thanks for the info. It all makes sense now. |
| The Real Wizard 15.11.2010 17:03 |
missman wrote:
I have very strange feeling that I saw the moment where Freddie wore a mask during performing some song (it very seems that it was Brighton Rock) from the Earls Court but since first night video doesn't match this moment, it can be from the second night.This could be interesting. Where did you see the video? Are you sure it was an actual video, and not some home-made youtube video that used a photo of Freddie with the mask? |
| inu-liger 16.11.2010 01:41 |
So Gary, getting back on track off your tangent, there are questions waiting to be answered... |
| GT 16.11.2010 01:55 |
Dear GT, 1) About certain shows? May I say we will gonna see the old trick happening? So all the info that is already known by the public concerning the footage and snippets that can be seen on the various released DVD's and documentaries 2) Or ....all the videos, snippets, interviews and audioconcerts that are known to be in the archives of QP, the BBC, Brian May (like the multitracks of the Crazy tour topic) etc ? Hope you can aswer my question... will it be option 1 or 2? Best Hi Queenman, It will be option 2. |
| Queenman!! 16.11.2010 02:47 |
GT wrote: Dear GT, 1) About certain shows? May I say we will gonna see the old trick happening? So all the info that is already known by the public concerning the footage and snippets that can be seen on the various released DVD's and documentaries 2) Or ....all the videos, snippets, interviews and audioconcerts that are known to be in the archives of QP, the BBC, Brian May (like the multitracks of the Crazy tour topic) etc ? Hope you can aswer my question... will it be option 1 or 2? Best Hi Queenman, It will be option 2. ============== Gary, Thank you for being clear on that. Appreciate it. As being said on that particular topic (Crazy Tour) it seems that there is still Queen stuff (multitracks, memorabilia etc) in the personal vaults of Brian May and/or Roger or John that seems to be NOT in the official archive yet of Greg B and QP and known to exist official nor that it has been digitalized and copied Is this true and will all this info be added to the book? update: Sorry for asking.. I just read in that Crazy tour topic, according to user Strangefrontier, that GB knows what's in the personal vault of Brian. |
| Hangman_96 16.11.2010 05:43 |
Sir GH wrote: This could be interesting. Where did you see the video? Are you sure it was an actual video, and not some home-made youtube video that used a photo of Freddie with the mask? =============== Probably in some documentary but I'm not 100% sure if I really saw it. My confused imagination could give me fake thoughts based on this famous photo of Freddie in mask. Hope I really saw it! |
| Bad Seed 16.11.2010 06:44 |
missman wrote: Sir GH wrote: This could be interesting. Where did you see the video? Are you sure it was an actual video, and not some home-made youtube video that used a photo of Freddie with the mask? =============== Probably in some documentary but I'm not 100% sure if I really saw it. My confused imagination could give me fake thoughts based on this famous photo of Freddie in mask. Hope I really saw it! ================= I think I might have seen this before, but I'm also wondering if im confusing it with a photo? There was actually two different edits of COTW, one had more Earls Court footage in it. I remember lending my friends copy which he bought it on the day of release in '95. When I bought it 6-12 months later I remember being disappointed because my version had less EC stuff. Maybe it was on that? If I did see it I'm sure it was just a short clip with different audio playing over the top |
| Queenman!! 16.11.2010 06:57 |
Bad Seed wrote: missman wrote: Sir GH wrote: This could be interesting. Where did you see the video? Are you sure it was an actual video, and not some home-made youtube video that used a photo of Freddie with the mask? =============== Probably in some documentary but I'm not 100% sure if I really saw it. My confused imagination could give me fake thoughts based on this famous photo of Freddie in mask. Hope I really saw it! ================= I think I might have seen this before, but I'm also wondering if im confusing it with a photo? There was actually two different edits of COTW, one had more Earls Court footage in it. I remember lending my friends copy which he bought it on the day of release in '95. When I bought it 6-12 months later I remember being disappointed because my version had less EC stuff. Maybe it was on that? If I did see it I'm sure it was just a short clip with different audio playing over the top ========================= This one? Freddie mostly worn his Glitter Leotard during the Rock and Roll Medley. So it could be the 2nd night. |
| Queenman!! 16.11.2010 06:57 |
sorry; double post |
| Queenman!! 16.11.2010 07:42 |
and this one... |
| Hangman_96 16.11.2010 08:48 |
Queenman!! wrote: This one? Freddie mostly worn his Glitter Leotard during the Rock and Roll Medley. So it could be the 2nd night. ================ It's not from the Earls Court. This is most likely from NOTW tour because stairs near Roger's drums on this tour. Second photo you've sent here is from the Earls Court. |
| The Real Wizard 16.11.2010 09:37 |
missman wrote:
Second photo you've sent here is from the Earls Court.The first photo is from the Jazz tour - look at Roger's bass drum skin. And how can we be sure the second picture is really from Earls Court ? GT could probably confirm since he likely has seen all the footage from the second night, but that wouldn't be part of his game plan here, would it? |
| Hangman_96 16.11.2010 10:21 |
Sir GH wrote: The first photo is from the Jazz tour - look at Roger's bass drum skin. And how can we be sure the second picture is really from Earls Court ? GT could probably confirm since he likely has seen all the footage from the second night, but that wouldn't be part of his game plan here, would it? =================== Sorry, I didn't notice bass drum skin. As for the second picture I think it can be only from the Earls Court because on the shows before EC Freddie was wearing black and white costume. Freddie was wearing his green and orange and white costume in the Earls Court and in Spring of 1978 but who wanted to use photo of Spring 1978 for the Earls Court DVD cover when this is a real photo of this same costume from EC? GT, you say a lot of rubbish! |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 16.11.2010 10:34 |
GT You are big liar yes it is true, darling |
| Benn 16.11.2010 10:55 |
Sir GH, Don't bother wasting your time and energy responding to GT or trying to engage him in any kind of dialogue which might lead him to believe that, somewhere along the line, he will add value to this forum. As we've seen before on all sorts of threads he'll dip his toe in from time to time and make some kind of generic comment which will give rise to some people here believeing their opinion counts or that GT, himself, is really being helpful. He's admitted now to his "Queen Live" book being "option 2" and, therefore, only as complete as he and Greg can make it without having to persuade QPL to part with any cash in order for the book to be made more complete through obtaining material previously unavailable to them. The fun of this forum is in the scope of speculation that goes on and the debate it generates - trying to engage "officials" in any of it to confirm or deny topics and their contents kind of ruins the fun and gives them more legitimacy than they really warrant. |
| The Real Wizard 16.11.2010 11:44 |
Missman wrote:
As for the second picture I think it can be only from the Earls Court because on the shows before EC Freddie was wearing black and white costume.Good point, but it could also be from any of the other UK shows (Bristol, Southampton, Stafford, Glasgow, Liverpool), but we don't have any pictures from those shows. And great post, Benn. Cheers for that. |
| Hangman_96 16.11.2010 14:38 |
Sir GH wrote: Good point, but it could also be from any of the other UK shows (Bristol, Southampton, Stafford, Glasgow, Liverpool), but we don't have any pictures from those shows. ================= Hope one day someone will upload pictures from those shows :-) |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 16.11.2010 14:41 |
GT Well, you're lying, dude. You yap or a man of his word? If you snitch you've got the full video of the second night, then upload your video |
| Hangman_96 16.11.2010 14:46 |
GT, liar nobody believes, liar they bring you down before you begin, now let me tell you this, now you know you could be dead before they let you |
| The Real Wizard 16.11.2010 16:59 |
I guess you two don't realize that GT works with Greg Brooks, so he definitely has seen the footage. |
| Queenman!! 17.11.2010 01:41 |
So...property of Queen Productions |
| pittrek 17.11.2010 03:35 |
Very "intelligent" comments, guys. Do you have an idea who GT is ? If no, check the linear notes to any Queen release from last x years. When he says that the full video exists, it means that it DOES exist |
| Hangman_96 17.11.2010 08:31 |
At first I didn't understand who is GT but now I start understanding who is really he and now I believe him so sorry |
| Bad Seed 17.11.2010 15:01 |
Somewhere between 2000 and 2006 there was a documentary on UK TV which had footage of Bo Rap from Earls Court. No idea what night it was. Can anyone remember this, or shed any light on which doc it was? Been searching through old tapes but cant find it anywhere. |
| Rick 17.11.2010 15:07 |
Another book? Are you serious? Queen is music, not literature. |
| Marknow 17.11.2010 15:26 |
@Bad Seed Might be this? Bo-Rap info at the end of the page. link |
| Marknow 17.11.2010 16:03 |
I share in peoples frustration with the lack of information, but if I was co-writing a book for publishing next year, I wouldn't be posting specific information from it, in the heartland of my target audience. Gary(if you are still here) Do you think it would be possible for you, and maybe even Greg, to do a Q&A here (not QOL)post book release? Just a single thread where fans can ask a few questions about anything the book might throw up, or any other reasonable questions we might have? |
| DGAA 18.11.2010 07:55 |
Missman wrote: I have very strange feeling that I saw the moment where Freddie wore a mask during performing some song (it very seems that it was Brighton Rock) from the Earls Court but since first night video doesn't match this moment, it can be from the second night. I found this one but probadly it's from first night but edited link min 7:59-8:30 |
| Hangman_96 18.11.2010 08:21 |
DGAA wrote: I found this one but probadly it's from first night but edited link min 7:59-8:30 ================== Yes, this is from the first night and Freddie isn't in mask |
| Bad Seed 18.11.2010 08:55 |
Marknow wrote: @Bad Seed Might be this? Bo-Rap info at the end of the page. link ============== Yeah thats it, thanks. Spent bloody hours going through tapes the other day. Never thought for a second it would be in the last 5 minutes of a 95 min doc. Bo Rap is from the 1st night on this btw. Starting to doubt if I have seen the mask footage now. |
| Goodoldfashionedloverboy 08.12.2010 08:27 |
?orrect me if I'm wrong, but the Earl 's Court in 1977 has never been shown on television. If this so, then from where appeared this bootleg? |
