| mike hunt 16.08.2010 11:05 |
The New York yankees, or was it freddie's stab at the critics and the media, That the band made it without their help?........ |
| Bo Rhap 16.08.2010 11:23 |
Could be.Critics and the media that is. Freddie always said that it was"a real winners song" and that he was surprised that nobody else had ever written a song like that before. |
| coops 16.08.2010 13:52 |
Freddie said to Brian "We are the champions" while discussing the success of their recent tour. |
| lalaalalaa 16.08.2010 14:46 |
I hate it when people call it a "gay anthem" I think they're just jealous. |
| queen79luca 16.08.2010 15:09 |
..a FUCKING GREAT MIND ! |
| rhyeking 16.08.2010 16:44 |
Brian has said the band were always looking for ways to connect with the audience in live situations, which was a big reason "We Will Rock You" came into existence. "Champions" was written during "A Night At The Opera" sessions, but Freddie didn't present it until later, probably following the same train of thought as Brian (connect with the audience more). As for inspiration, it was probably no one thing, just some different ideas that morphed and evolved into a song about triumphing over adversity. Freddie generally dismissed his songs as being autobiographical and I believe very few of his lyrics relate directly to him. Just as Stephen King can write dozens of books about supernatural things, just on sheer imagination, Freddie's imagination fueled dozens of songs and characters singing from different points of view. |
| mike hunt 16.08.2010 17:22 |
lalaalalaa wrote: I hate it when people call it a "gay anthem" I think they're just jealous. Those people ar Just ignorant to the band. They know nothing about Queen other than the hits, and all think the whole band was GAY, ect. Another One Bites the Dust was another so called gay anthem, that one wasn't even written by freddie. |
| rhyeking 16.08.2010 17:54 |
You want a laugh, check this out: link You can practically see the author foaming at the mouth as he condemns Freddie and Queen. |
| Tim June 16.08.2010 20:20 |
There was recently a interesting interview with Brian... He talks a lot about the creation and inspiration of We Will Rock You and a bit about WATC. Link to the interview-thread: link and heres for the transcribed interview: link. ... here is a short quote taken from the interview: " GROSS: That's Queen's "We Will Rock You," which was written by my guest, Brian May, who was the lead guitarist for the band. So what inspired that song? I mean, it's been played at so many sports stadiums over the decades. What were you thinking about when you wrote it? Were you thinking of it as a sports anthem? Dr. MAY: No, not really. I was thinking of it more as a rock anthem, I suppose, and a means of uniting an audience or taking advantage, you know, enjoying the fact that an audience is united. And I didn't realize that it would transfer to sports games. This is quite an amazing thing. It's wonderful for me to see what "We Will Rock You" has done. You know, "We Will Rock You" and "We Are the Champions," of course, have kind of transcended the normal framework of where music is listened to and appreciated. They've become part of public life, which I feel wonderful about. It's fantastic to me if I go to a, you know, a football game or a soccer game or basketball or whatever or anyplace all around the world, and there it is. And I think, my God. Most people don't even realize that I wrote it. Most people don't realize that it was written. GROSS: That's right. (Soundbite of laughter) Dr. MAY: It's sort of become one of those things that people think was always there. You know, it sort of goes back into pre-history. So in a way, that's the best compliment you could have for a song. GROSS: Well, I think, you know, that's - if people don't even realize it was written, it's in part because it almost sounds like an old-school cheerleader cheer, you know, because... Dr. MAY: Yeah. It's become part of the fabric of life. GROSS: ...of that stomp-stomp-clap thing and because it's a chant. Dr. MAY: Yeah, that's right. Well, the stomp-stomp-clap thing, yeah, people think it was always there, but actually it wasn't. And I don't know how it got into my head. All I can tell you is we played a gig sort of the middle of our career in a place called Bingley Hall near Birmingham. Now, Birmingham is the sort of home of heavy metal, as you probably know. You know, Sabbath and Slade and people come from there. And it was a great night. People were just, the audience were just responding hugely, and they were singing along with everything we did. Now, in the beginning, we didn't relate to that. We were the kind of band who liked to be listened to and taken seriously and all that stuff. So, people singing along wasn't part of our agenda. Having said that and then having experienced this wave of participation of the audience, particularly in that gig in Birmingham, we almost to a man sort of reassessed our situation. I remember talking to Freddie about it and saying, look, you know, obviously, we can no longer fight this. This has to become something which is part of our show, and we have to embrace it, the fact that people want to participate. And really, everything becomes a two-way process now. And we sort of looked at each other and went, hmm, how interesting. And he went away that night and to the best of my knowledge wrote "We Are the Champions" with that in mind. I went away and woke up the next morning with this... [...] " |
| mike hunt 16.08.2010 20:53 |
Tim June wrote: There was recently a interesting interview with Brian... He talks a lot about the creation and inspiration of We Will Rock You and a bit about WATC. Link to the interview-thread: link and heres for the transcribed interview: link. ... here is a short quote taken from the interview: " GROSS: That's Queen's "We Will Rock You," which was written by my guest, Brian May, who was the lead guitarist for the band. So what inspired that song? I mean, it's been played at so many sports stadiums over the decades. What were you thinking about when you wrote it? Were you thinking of it as a sports anthem? Dr. MAY: No, not really. I was thinking of it more as a rock anthem, I suppose, and a means of uniting an audience or taking advantage, you know, enjoying the fact that an audience is united. And I didn't realize that it would transfer to sports games. This is quite an amazing thing. It's wonderful for me to see what "We Will Rock You" has done. You know, "We Will Rock You" and "We Are the Champions," of course, have kind of transcended the normal framework of where music is listened to and appreciated. They've become part of public life, which I feel wonderful about. It's fantastic to me if I go to a, you know, a football game or a soccer game or basketball or whatever or anyplace all around the world, and there it is. And I think, my God. Most people don't even realize that I wrote it. Most people don't realize that it was written. GROSS: That's right. (Soundbite of laughter) Dr. MAY: It's sort of become one of those things that people think was always there. You know, it sort of goes back into pre-history. So in a way, that's the best compliment you could have for a song. GROSS: Well, I think, you know, that's - if people don't even realize it was written, it's in part because it almost sounds like an old-school cheerleader cheer, you know, because... Dr. MAY: Yeah. It's become part of the fabric of life. GROSS: ...of that stomp-stomp-clap thing and because it's a chant. Dr. MAY: Yeah, that's right. Well, the stomp-stomp-clap thing, yeah, people think it was always there, but actually it wasn't. And I don't know how it got into my head. All I can tell you is we played a gig sort of the middle of our career in a place called Bingley Hall near Birmingham. Now, Birmingham is the sort of home of heavy metal, as you probably know. You know, Sabbath and Slade and people come from there. And it was a great night. People were just, the audience were just responding hugely, and they were singing along with everything we did. Now, in the beginning, we didn't relate to that. We were the kind of band who liked to be listened to and taken seriously and all that stuff. So, people singing along wasn't part of our agenda. Having said that and then having experienced this wave of participation of the audience, particularly in that gig in Birmingham, we almost to a man sort of reassessed our situation. I remember talking to Freddie about it and saying, look, you know, obviously, we can no longer fight this. This has to become something which is part of our show, and we have to embrace it, the fact that people want to participate. And really, everything becomes a two-way process now. And we sort of looked at each other and went, hmm, how interesting. And he went away that night and to the best of my knowledge wrote "We Are the Champions" with that in mind. I went away and woke up the next morning with this... [...] " I guess that sums it up!.......Freddie and Brian really did feed off each other in their prime, the 70's. |
| rhyeking 16.08.2010 21:58 |
I've heard that interview. And I agree that the fed of each other, at least in this case. I'm sure the whole band did. Freddie, though, very specifically says he wrote "Champions" during ANATO on the 30th Anniversary DVD commentary, obviously taking the clip from a previous interview. I'll try to get the exact quote. Not saying Brian is wrong, but he does say to the best of his memory. What probably happened was after that conversation, Freddie came back with "Champions" (already written years before) and it fit with the theme. |
| mike hunt 17.08.2010 00:59 |
Other cases freddie and brian fed off each other are Bo Rhap and the prophet song...........Flick of the wrist and now I'm here.......Obviously We will rock you and we are the champions........and Fat bottomed girls and Biycle races......They inspired and brought the best out of each other. |
| GratefulFan 17.08.2010 01:32 |
Not just fed off each other, but pushed each other to sometimes uncomfortable places, to great effect. Brian has spoken about being shocked by the lyrics to 'Champions' at first, and a bit troubled by what he perceived as their arrogance. Of the four only Freddie could have written those words I think, and seen in them a rousing anthem that would not translate as self aggrandizing, but make everybody feel like a champion. And to his credit, that "we' never has felt like 'they'. Quite something to pull off when you think about it. |
| scollins 17.08.2010 06:09 |
why does we are the champs always been seen to be have written after the bingley show, DIDNT ROGER once say that fred had the song from the same time they were making sheer heart attack album??? same as the song sheer heart attcak why do they keep changing their story,? |
| Genine Hopkins 17.08.2010 07:46 |
Just watched that horrible website slamming Mercury and his religion. Wow, some people have way too much time on their hands! |
| rhyeking 17.08.2010 13:20 |
scollins wrote: why does we are the champs always been seen to be have written after the bingley show, DIDNT ROGER once say that fred had the song from the same time they were making sheer heart attack album??? same as the song sheer heart attcak why do they keep changing their story,? ++++++++++++++++++++++++ I've never heard then change there story on either song. Like I said, Freddie's statement is quite specific about the period he wrote it. The song Sheer Heart Attack was supposedly started for that album, but wasn't finished or wasn't very good at that stage. But the band liked the title and used it for the album. Personally, I'm fascinated by how songs get started during one period and end up being used later. "Tie Your Mother Down" was started in 1971, between September & October, on the side of Mount Tiede, Tenerife in the Canary Island. He didn't finish it until before the Races sessions. If things had gone differently, it could have been the lead track on Queen rather than KYA. |
| Queen of the Bohemians 19.08.2010 06:22 |
Just looked at the anti-queen website and all that shows is that some people have way too much time on their hands! I've got nothing against christianity, but that's just pathetic-do you thing the guy who wrote it knows how funny it is?! |
| ola975 19.08.2010 07:01 |
rhyeking napisal: Chcesz sie smiac, to sprawdzic : link % 20in % 20America/Rock-n-Roll/freddie_mercury.htm Mozesz zobaczyc praktycznie autora z piana na ustach , kiedy potepia Freddie i Queen. Oh my ... What is this?? Haunted man... ;) |
| Voice of Reason 2018 19.08.2010 10:37 |
Are you sure it wasn't inspired by the time Brentford came back from 2-0 down to draw 2 all with Port Vale thanks to a last-minute equaliser? |
| lifetimefanofqueen 19.08.2010 13:48 |
i read somewere football enspired freddie to write we are the champions. idk cus im not realy much of a football fan. sorry XD |
| tarik 20.08.2010 18:18 |
Lotta people claim it's a gay anthem, well it's maybe true, no disrespect, i'm a big fan but if you take a look at the lyrics, who is freddie talking to? just ask yourself this question, probably a gay anthem or maybe about the band champions of rock |
| Makka 21.08.2010 03:40 |
rhyeking wrote: You want a laugh, check this out: link You can practically see the author foaming at the mouth as he condemns Freddie and Queen. Holy fuck!! hahaha....it's scarey to think there are people like that in this world. Foaming at the mouth indeed! |
| rhyeking 21.08.2010 10:57 |
What is so perverse about so-called Born Again Christian's (and many other "Christian" denominations') position on homosexuality is that despite what they say, it is not condemned by Christianity in the Bible. The quote they often cite from the Bible is: Lev 20:13 If a man also lies with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be on them. This is from the Book of Leviticus, in the OLD Testament. That's key in a way homophobic Christians would rather you ignore. Allow me to explain, for those of you not up on your Christian dogma. The Bible is divided into two sections, the Old Testament and the New Testament, each containing several Books (Genesis, Exodus, Revelations, etc). The Old Testament by itself is, for those of the Jewish faith, simply the Jewish Bible. It contains the Laws, Rules, advice and rather importantly the Ten Commandments, which the Jews are expected to study and follow. The Book Of Leviticus is contained here. It all seems straightforward, but then came Jesus (we're now in the New Testament) and his single act of Crucifixion, dying for our sins, meant that his followers were no longer bound by the Laws and Rules laid out in the Old Testament/Jewish Bible. His was the ultimate sacrifice, so we needed no longer sacrifice animals or do the many things the Old Testament required (not wear cotton and wool together, for example). Bottomline: Jesus' sacrifice negated the Old Covenant (the Jewish Laws) for the New Covenant (Christ's Laws) for his followers. The Leviticus rule quoted above was one such thing no longer binding them. Bigots simply continue to follow it because it serves as an excuse to be homophobic. I'm sure Jesus would be proud. And before you ask, I was raised Catholic. It comes in handy when dealing with people such as the guy whose website that is. |