| Mercuryking 18.07.2010 09:27 |
here you go, led zeppling is more of a fraud than an legendary band. link |
| Holly2003 18.07.2010 09:44 |
You suck. Zeppelin rules! |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 10:59 |
Holly2003 wrote: You suck. Zeppelin rules! treasure moment is 1 million times better than led zeppelin, FACT. |
| andreas_mercury 18.07.2010 11:20 |
funny that you two should talk about theft because you have not even answered my emails yet, send me what is rightflly mine you also owe to me several thousands of dollars ........ |
| Holly2003 18.07.2010 11:21 |
Treasure Moment wrote: Holly2003 wrote: You suck. Zeppelin rules! treasure moment is 1 million times better than led zeppelin, FACT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Only a million: do I sense some self-doubt? Could it be your total failure to gain a recording contract, your inability to play your instruments, your lack of creativity, and the fact your lead singer can't hold a note? Keep the faith bro, there's a market for badly played elavator music somewhere. ps Zeppelin rule! |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 12:04 |
Holly2003 wrote: Treasure Moment wrote: Holly2003 wrote: You suck. Zeppelin rules! treasure moment is 1 million times better than led zeppelin, FACT. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Only a million: do I sense some self-doubt? Could it be your total failure to gain a recording contract, your inability to play your instruments, your lack of creativity, and the fact your lead singer can't hold a note? Keep the faith bro, there's a market for badly played elavator music somewhere. ps Zeppelin rule! as i said its a million times better, im not being arrogant, just speaking the truth. |
| Holly2003 18.07.2010 12:27 |
Zeppelin rule is the truth Otis. |
| andreas_mercury 18.07.2010 12:31 |
interesting that everyone (even me and milidrag) hate your music, max. you suck and you are mean to amir who was the only man of the band to have any talent ..... |
| andreas_mercury 18.07.2010 12:32 |
max better than led zeppelin, sure thing oh PS does anyone remember your karmablade band? quick answer NO thanks |
| andreas_mercury 18.07.2010 12:32 |
and so funny that your song "warrior" ripped off "final countdown" should you really start this thread guys |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 12:51 |
Holly2003 wrote: Zeppelin rule is the truth Otis. if you like an overrated cover band then yeah they rule |
| The Real Wizard 18.07.2010 12:51 |
This so-called "ripping off" occurred in the late 60s and early 70s, when copyright laws didn't exist and people didn't feel "ripped off" when someone quoted their song. It was considered a compliment to have someone incorporate your song into theirs. For decades it was a very common practice in the blues genre to pass music down from generation to generation like this, but Zeppelin were the first band to find great commercial success writing songs this way. By the time lawsuits started by the 80s, Willie Dixon saw dollar signs in his eyes, sued Zeppelin for Whole Lotta Love, and of course he won, but he did an incredible disservice to the genre of music that gave him a name. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 13:17 |
Sir GH wrote: This so-called "ripping off" occurred in the late 60s and early 70s, when copyright laws didn't exist and people didn't feel "ripped off" when someone quoted their song. It was considered a compliment to have someone incorporate your song into theirs. For decades it was a very common practice in the blues genre to pass music down from generation to generation like this, but Zeppelin were the first band to find great commercial success writing songs this way. By the time lawsuits started by the 80s, Willie Dixon saw dollar signs in his eyes, sued Zeppelin for Whole Lotta Love, and of course he won, but he did an incredible disservice to the genre of music that gave him a name. stop defending them, they are disgusting theives. |
| Holly2003 18.07.2010 13:30 |
Treasure Moment wrote: Holly2003 wrote: Zeppelin rule is the truth Otis. if you like an overrated cover band then yeah they rule ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You won't hear Zeppelin played in elevators, although your band might reach those dizzy heights (17th floor?) with a LOT of practice, a new singer who can hit and hold a note and a new keyboard player with 10 fingers. |
| Amazon 18.07.2010 13:40 |
Zeppelin definitely ripped off other artists, but it doesn't really concern me, as what I love about them isn't their originality or creativity, but their playing. They were creative, yes, but wat astonishes me is the quality of their musicalship; Jimmy's masterful playing, the brilliance of JPJ and Bonham and even Plant, whom I don't always love and I think is quite overrated but is often brilliant. They were also extremely talented writers, although they weren't always that original. Still, when I put Dazed and Confused on the cd player and turn it up loud, I don't care whether it was ripped off another song or not. It rocks!!! :D |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 13:43 |
Holly2003 wrote: Treasure Moment wrote: Holly2003 wrote: Zeppelin rule is the truth Otis. if you like an overrated cover band then yeah they rule ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You won't hear Zeppelin played in elevators, although your band might reach those dizzy heights (17th floor?) with a LOT of practice, a new singer who can hit and hold a note and a new keyboard player with 10 fingers. as i said tm's music is 10 times better than zeppelin, thats a FACT |
| andreas_mercury 18.07.2010 13:45 |
so when you ripped off final countdown and made me play drums on it insisting it was a new song never before heard, what were you doing? why is it ok for you to pirate |
| Amazon 18.07.2010 13:56 |
I'm only responding because it annoys me when people confuse fact with opinion. Treasure Moment wrote: "as i said tm's music is 10 times better than zeppelin, thats a FACT" Really? Is that a fact as in 1+1=2 or people who mistake their opinions for facts are fools? I would say the latter. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 13:59 |
Amazon wrote: I'm only responding because it annoys me when people confuse fact with opinion. Treasure Moment wrote: "as i said tm's music is 10 times better than zeppelin, thats a FACT" Really? Is that a fact as in 1+1=2 or people who mistake their opinions for facts are fools? I would say the latter. i know what im talking about, if TM wasnt better i wouldnt say it. zeppelin is a disgusting band, they STEAL other peoples music. |
| Holly2003 18.07.2010 14:00 |
Treasure Moment wrote: as i said tm's music is 10 times better than zeppelin, thats a FACT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nope, you said one million. This time you must've counted using all your fingers and toes and reached a total of 10. |
| john bodega 18.07.2010 14:03 |
I love the video in the original post. Couple of twats who, if they sat down with the source material that Led Zepp ripped off, probably couldn't come up with anything decent. As much as I hate to say it, there is a certain art in making something different from pre-existing material. There did used to be a much clearer tradition of 'quoting' among songwriters. Nowadays, plagiarism is viewed very differently. The fact remains that the talentless dorks in that video would not be able to make a new song out of an old one. Besides the fact that most of the things that Led Zeppelin ripped off were better once they'd been through the Zepp-O-Meter. Same goes for the song that was used to create "Child in Time" by Deep Purple. The original was boring as bat shit. The output was one of the best songs in rock. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 14:04 |
Holly2003 wrote: Treasure Moment wrote: as i said tm's music is 10 times better than zeppelin, thats a FACT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nope, you said one million. This time you must've counted using all your fingers and toes and reached a total of 10. you got the point, its much better music and thats not arrogance, its the truth. |
| john bodega 18.07.2010 14:06 |
Okay, so ... Led Zeppelin are crap plagiarists. When I listen to Treasure Moment music, I can (very easily) hear what you've been ripping off. For argument's sake, what does that make you? |
| Amazon 18.07.2010 14:14 |
Treasure Moment wrote: "i know what im talking about" So do I. Do not make the mistake of believing that you are the world's authority on music. "if TM wasnt better i wouldnt say it." No, you BELIEVE they are better. "zeppelin is a disgusting band" Really? I think they are one of the best half dozen rock bands of all time. Personally, I don't find them to be disgusting at all, but you are entitled to your opinion. Which is what it is. "they STEAL other peoples music." Everybody steals music. As it was, Zeppelin's versions were arguably better than the originals. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 14:30 |
Amazon wrote: Treasure Moment wrote: "i know what im talking about" So do I. Do not make the mistake of believing that you are the world's authority on music. "if TM wasnt better i wouldnt say it." No, you BELIEVE they are better. "zeppelin is a disgusting band" Really? I think they are one of the best half dozen rock bands of all time. Personally, I don't find them to be disgusting at all, but you are entitled to your opinion. Which is what it is. "they STEAL other peoples music." Everybody steals music. As it was, Zeppelin's versions were arguably better than the originals. no not everyone steals music, we dont, only pathetic fucks steal music and zeppelin is pathetic, they are also highly overrated, TM is way above them musically, fact. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 14:30 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Okay, so ... Led Zeppelin are crap plagiarists. When I listen to Treasure Moment music, I can (very easily) hear what you've been ripping off. For argument's sake, what does that make you? TM hasnt ripped off anything, its 100% original melodies. |
| The Real Wizard 18.07.2010 14:32 |
Treasure Moment wrote: "stop defending them, they are disgusting theives." Nice to see you're so open to alternative points of view. Honestly, can someone please ban the three stooges from the forum? They have never once adding something of value to any discussion. |
| Mercuryking 18.07.2010 14:36 |
I dont think people should encourage people stealing anything. I wasnt a fan of Led zepplin but i didnt have anything against them either but now after i found out that they stole plenty of songs , i lost alot of respect for them. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 14:37 |
Sir GH wrote: Treasure Moment wrote: "stop defending them, they are disgusting theives." Nice to see you're so open to alternative points of view. Honestly, can someone please ban the three stooges from the forum? They have never once adding something of value to any discussion. YOU are defending thieves and you want me banned? haha |
| The Real Wizard 18.07.2010 14:39 |
I know children with better cognitive and critical thinking skills than you. You are unable to consider an opinion different from yours as possibly being true, largely because you equate your own opinions with truth. Most ten-year-olds understand that what they think may not necessarily be correct to everyone. I posted an explanation about the art of blues music throughout the 20th century, and you completely ignored it, insisting on blinding calling Led Zeppelin thieves without historical context. You are an absolute fool. |
| Treasure Moment 18.07.2010 14:48 |
man they ripped off songs with complete melodies, that cant be tolerated, they are THIEVES! stop defending them, there is no tolerance for that. |
| andreas_mercury 18.07.2010 15:25 |
ignore max for the lies he is putting here as i have met him in real life and know for full fact he has led zeppelin albums and has led zeppelin songs that he likes to enjoy at. |
| mike hunt 19.07.2010 15:51 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Okay, so ... Led Zeppelin are crap plagiarists. When I listen to Treasure Moment music, I can (very easily) hear what you've been ripping off. For argument's sake, what does that make you? ...howlin wolf/Dixon and muddy waters stuff is every bit as awsome (maybe better) as Lep Zeppelin, but most rock fans are ignorant to this fact. |
| mike hunt 19.07.2010 15:54 |
Zep might have stole some stuff....I'm not a huge fan of them, but let's be honest...they were powerful and original sounding. They did have their own sound. |
| Treasure Moment 20.07.2010 03:14 |
mike hunt wrote: Zep might have stole some stuff....I'm not a huge fan of them, but let's be honest...they were powerful and original sounding. They did have their own sound. their own sound? how the hell can it be their own sound when they STOLE songs? they are pathetic. |
| andreas_mercury 20.07.2010 04:14 |
they sound better than karmablade |
| Amazon 20.07.2010 06:21 |
Treasure Moment wrote: "their own sound? how the hell can it be their own sound when they STOLE songs? they are pathetic." Oh, get off your high horse! Zeppelin had their own sound because the four members were unique. Page, Plant, Bonham and JPJ were each extraordinary musicians and they forged a sound that was unlike anyone else. The reality is that in all art (music, cinema, literature, theatre, art etc...), many people steal/borrow/copy/quote from other artists. They then take what they steal/borrow/copy/quote and they create something new and different. That is what Zeppelin did. |
| andreas_mercury 20.07.2010 06:27 |
max you are the worst guitarist stop dragging amir down as he has the talent in the band, you should just fuck off amir was always the best. |
| Major Tom 20.07.2010 16:56 |
Mercury SingerOfLife wrote: here you go, led zeppling is more of a fraud than an legendary band. link Well. Let me put it this way then. 25 million signed up for their reuninon concert in the O2, IN THE FIRST 24 HOURS. How many came to your gig with Nordman? |
| Bo Rhap 20.07.2010 17:41 |
Treasure Moment wrote: man they ripped off songs with complete melodies, that cant be tolerated, they are THIEVES! stop defending them, there is no tolerance for that. Queen took ideas from other bands as well and did them better. Does that not Queen thieves too? Every band steals off other bands.Including yours!!! |
| mike hunt 20.07.2010 17:57 |
Bo Rhap wrote: Treasure Moment wrote: man they ripped off songs with complete melodies, that cant be tolerated, they are THIEVES! stop defending them, there is no tolerance for that. Queen took ideas from other bands as well and did them better. Does that not Queen thieves too? Every band steals off other bands.Including yours!!! another one bites the dust anyone? |
| The Real Wizard 20.07.2010 22:54 |
No, the real story is Chic invented the time machine, found that Queen would record Another One Bites The Dust, and wrote a song similar to it in 1979. |
| Treasure Moment 21.07.2010 01:09 |
mike hunt wtf are you talking about? go to our site and tell me which melody we have stolen, i dare you |
| andreas_mercury 21.07.2010 11:05 |
"go to our site and tell me which melody we have stolen, i dare you" then i dare you to upload Warrior or maybe i should do it for you because i finally found my copy in my games! you should send me to me e-mail all of the photos i have asked for or i will upload the song for them to laugh in |
| The Real Wizard 21.07.2010 11:56 |
Who better to say it than Robert Plant himself? link Anyone who thinks Zeppelin sucks after watching this is a fool. |
| andreas_mercury 21.07.2010 12:18 |
"go to our site and tell me which melody we have stolen, i dare you" i am daring you now, max, send to me what I want at andreas.mercury@gmail.com or you will be consequences and to sirGHs video i say robert plant is always been a very good poet it is a good tribute whether someone is into the zeppelin or doesn't give two fucks of them, personally i like some of their tunes and do not pay too much attention to max or amir as i have known them to real life OFF this forum, and they both listen to zeppelin for inspiration though in me i think they dont do it enough as it's never worked .... |
| Bo Rhap 21.07.2010 17:17 |
TM. You have "embellished"so many ideas in your music that you have no idea that you have did this. This is FACT. To call LZ thieves would mean you are thieves too. |
| andreas_mercury 22.07.2010 14:24 |
oh look at this then link maybe jimmy page cries himself to his sleep every night because he cant write garbage like this ............ |
| The Fairy King 23.07.2010 01:34 |
Zeppling? |
| Bo Rhap 23.07.2010 03:23 |
andreas_mercury wrote: oh look at this then link maybe jimmy page cries himself to his sleep every night because he cant write garbage like this ............ You're right That is garbage At least JP could participate in writing good music such as Stairway To Heaven,Dazed And Confused,Going To California etc A lot of bands nowadays can learn from LZ on how to write good music. |
| Treasure Moment 23.07.2010 05:07 |
Bo rhap: stop talking out of your ass, TMs music is 100% original. |
| The Fairy King 23.07.2010 05:28 |
OMG TM just STFU. |
| andreas_mercury 23.07.2010 05:51 |
its too bad that the faggot to TM's profile picture? he can only write garbage like this link and he talks about music when he has no knowledge and can only write complete shitty |
| Bo Rhap 23.07.2010 15:07 |
Treasure Moment wrote: Bo rhap: stop talking out of your ass, TMs music is 100% original. =============================================================================================== Ha ha ha ha |
| Treasure Moment 23.07.2010 15:27 |
The Fairy King wrote: OMG TM just STFU. stfu yourself you fairy |
| Bo Rhap 23.07.2010 16:58 |
TM has definitely threw the toys out the pram now WHAT A KNOBHEAD Oh hang on.That makes him useful.XD |
| andreas_mercury 24.07.2010 00:02 |
too bad of TM is just a shit band |
| Mr Mercury 11.08.2010 11:23 |
If Willie Dixon sued LZ for Whole Lotta Love, then did he also sue Small Faces for You Need Loving? For the record, I like the Small Faces as well as LZ. |