| Simulator 17.07.2010 11:47 |
Hello Queenzoners, Actually I'm looking for some new videos for my collection, but I'm only collecting official or at least legal releases (no bootlegs or pirates) and so I got a bit confused by that many DVD releases available. First "Queen Live in Rio" There exists an official Release on VHS and Laserdisc. But there ist also a dvd release around: link It's released by Queen Films Ltd. (as is the Rare Live VHS) and Masterplan. So to my eyes it seems to be at least legal. But perhaps it's more worthy buying the official VHS as this DVD is stated to have a corporate logo and copying VHS->DVD isnt that complicated. Than "Queen Final Live In Japan" 1985 On queenconcerts.com it is stated as official release on VHS, LD and DVD. But you shall take care of brasil pirates. So I found following releases: 1. link from Queen Films Ltd. / WOWOW (japanese TV Staion ???) POBE-3200 this seems to be legal to my eyes. 2. link seems almost identical to the first one 3. link this one is stated as being from Quantum Leap ??? what is that ? So in this case I'd prefer the first one. "Queen Live In Japan" 1982 queenconcerts.com states this as official VHS and LD release in Japan. I found two versions of the laserdisc link and link and one vhs link to me these seem to be official. I also found this DVD link but couldn't find out anything further about it. Who made it ? Does that one have the rights to release it ? In this case I'd prefer buying the VHS although it seems very hard to find. "Queen Live In Budapest" In this case I could only find the official VHS, LD. I'd prefer buying the VHS. Just wondering there seems no kind of DVD release of this one around. So what items would you prefer from a "collecting official/legal stuff" view ? I've seen none of all these videos yet. Having a look at the video and audio quality, do these DVDs differ a lot from the official VHS videos or are some even just copies from VHS ? And finally: Are there any other official/legal concert videos I missed beside these four and of course Wembley, Bowl, Montreal, Freddie Tribute, Return Of The Champions, Super Live In Japan, Live In Ukraine, Rainbow (Box Of Trix), Rare Live and perhaps Live Aid, 46664 and Party At The Palace ? many Thanks Simulator |
| The Real Wizard 17.07.2010 12:54 |
Any "official" Japan 82/85, Rio and Budapest LDs or DVDs are direct copies of the VHS. Sorry to disappoint ! |
| Wiley 17.07.2010 13:35 |
Aren't LDs from Japan original releases? I mean, the ones listed here: link. Perhaps they don't offer any additional quality upgrade from the VHS but they must not be copies FROM the VHS, but taken from the same "master" or something (which COULD be a VHS, maybe, I don't know). It's NOT like those shady Brazilean DVD releases which are COPIES from the Laserdiscs, or is it? |
| deleted user 18.07.2010 03:23 |
Sir GH wrote: Any "official" Japan 82/85, Rio and Budapest LDs or DVDs are direct copies of the VHS. Sorry to disappoint ! Reply: In content maybe, but the quality on the laserdisc versions is obviously vastly superior. I have the official japan 85 release on DVD, this is the one to get link Avoid the master plan version of Japan 85 - it has an on screen logo throughout. The best versions of Japan 82, Rio 85 and Budapest 86 on DVD would all be pirated laserdisc rips. There is a master plan laserdisc transfer version of Rio on DVD (again with an on screen logo) Laserdiscs have been released in the UK, Japan and the US. For other release details see here link |
| pittrek 18.07.2010 05:34 |
AVOID MASTERPLAN ! Those fuckers should be shot for ruining absolutely everything they touch :-( They simply transferred the official VHS tapes to digital, made them look like pure garbage, added a logo (!) to the video and released it "under exclusive license by Queen Film Ltd. " (who the f*** is Queen Film Ltd. ???) When I bought my first DVD player, the first DVDs I bought were Queen DVDs, and I of course bought the Masterplan releases, because I didn't check them online and I didn't have a clue they're all pirate DVDs. It is absolutely incredible that they're still being sold, I wrote about it to Amazon maybe 10 years ago and they STILL sell those :-( Maybe it's a good idea to report them to Brian's soapbox ? To the topic starter - get the official VHS tapes if you still have a video player, or in case of Final Live In Japan buy the official DVD, simply AVOID MASTERPLAN |
| deleted user 18.07.2010 06:42 |
Or buy a second hand laserdisc player. |
| Marknow 18.07.2010 10:27 |
pittrek wrote: released it "under exclusive license by Queen Film Ltd. " (who the f*** is Queen Film Ltd. ???) QUEEN FILMS LIMITED Key Company Details Company Number:02674407 Company Category:Private Limited Company Status:Active Date of Incorporation:30/12/1991 Address:************** LONDON W1M 5HE Country of Origin:United Kingdom Previous Names: Date Name ChangedPrevious Name 11/03/2003Q.M. PRODUCTIONS LIMITED 16/03/1992SPEED 2275 LIMITED Account Details Account Ref. date: Next Due Date:30/06/2011 Overdue:NO Last Made Up Date:30/09/2009 Account Category:DORMANT Document Available:Yes (see below) Annual Returns Next due date:17/01/2011 Overdue:NO Last Made Up Date:20/12/2009 Document Available:Yes (see below) SIC Information:7499 - Non-trading company SIC Information:9231 - Artistic & literary creation Last Full Mem Date:20/12/2009 Has Appointments:Yes Company Reports DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ROGER MEDDOWS TAYLOR / 20/12/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR BRIAN HAROLD MAY / 20/12/2009 COMPANY NAME CHANGED Q.M. PRODUCTIONS LIMITED CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 11/03/03 SECRETARY RESIGNED;NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED 07/08/1995 28/07/1993(1)SECRETARY RESIGNED;NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED 30/03/1992 DIRECTOR RESIGNED/NEW DIRECTOR APPOINTED 30/03/1992 COMPANY NAME CHANGED SPEED 2275 LIMITED CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 16/03/92 13/03/1992 SECRETARY RESIGNED;NEW SECRETARY APPOINTED; 26/02/1992 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE DECLARATIONOF COMPLIANCE MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION 30/12/1991NEWINC |
| pittrek 18.07.2010 12:32 |
No Mark, their releases are "licensed" by Queen FILM Ltd, NOT Queen FILMS Ltd. The "S" is important :-) |
| Marknow 18.07.2010 13:51 |
pittrek wrote: No Mark, their releases are "licensed" by Queen FILM Ltd, NOT Queen FILMS Ltd. The "S" is important :-) OOPS. Did not notice the missing "s", that was cheeky of them alright wasnt it. |
| Marknow 18.07.2010 13:51 |
pittrek wrote: No Mark, their releases are "licensed" by Queen FILM Ltd, NOT Queen FILMS Ltd. The "S" is important :-) OOPS. Did not notice the missing "s", that was cheeky of them alright wasnt it. |
| Simulator 20.07.2010 17:20 |
Hello many thanks for the reply. That Queen Film(s) thing seems really tricky. So I'm going to buy the Japan 1985 DVD as mentioned above. In the case of Japan 1982, Rio and Budapest I'll buy the original VHS or LD. LD seem very interesting cause they have a digital 44 kHz audio signal, but are more expensive. I'll think about that. thanks Simulator |
| Rick 23.07.2010 03:11 |
The last proper DVD release is an astonishingly six years ago. As a Queen fan, this is quite saddening. |
| Dane 29.07.2010 14:14 |
Just a question.. Would there be interest in DVD transfers of official VHS tapes that have never been released since their original release? Brian May Starlicks, Works Video EP, Rare Live etc.... ? I have most of them, and am willing to transfer them to DVD if it is allowed. |
| deleted user 30.07.2010 05:00 |
Dane wrote: Just a question.. Would there be interest in DVD transfers of official VHS tapes that have never been released since their original release? Brian May Starlicks, Works Video EP, Rare Live etc.... ? I have most of them, and am willing to transfer them to DVD if it is allowed. Reply: OFFICIAL means OFFICIAL |
| Dane 30.07.2010 12:07 |
Just to get my facts straight.. These things are not legal to share; - Single edits - 12'' Extended Versions - Music Video edits - B-sides as they have all been officially released? I have noticed there is no clarity about this at all in this forum. |
| deleted user 15.08.2010 11:00 |
Dane wrote: Just to get my facts straight.. These things are not legal to share; - Single edits - 12'' Extended Versions - Music Video edits - B-sides as they have all been officially released? I have noticed there is no clarity about this at all in this forum. Reply: OFFICIAL means OFFICIAL |
| The Real Wizard 15.08.2010 12:08 |
kurgan100 wrote:
Reply: OFFICIAL means OFFICIALYes, we know... but nowhere here does it actually state that sharing official material is prohibited. |
| Micrówave 15.08.2010 16:56 |
So why doesn't someone take a page from the book of Queen Film LTD. Start a Queenstone.com website and share everything, official or not. When the law starts closing in, just change the name to Queenbone.com. I think Freddie would support Queenbone.com. Let me get this straight. Queen (apparantly) doesn't have a problem with Pirate sites shlepping their DVDs, but if someone uploads a CD quality "Hangman" on Queenzone, then all hell breaks loose? Why? |
| deleted user 17.08.2010 14:20 |
Micrówave wrote: So why doesn't someone take a page from the book of Queen Film LTD. Start a Queenstone.com website and share everything, official or not. When the law starts closing in, just change the name to Queenbone.com. I think Freddie would support Queenbone.com. Let me get this straight. Queen (apparantly) doesn't have a problem with Pirate sites shlepping their DVDs, but if someone uploads a CD quality "Hangman" on Queenzone, then all hell breaks loose? Why? Reply: I missed the CD quality Hangman again - dammit |