| GT 25.06.2010 04:36 |
Hi fellow Queenzoners. Here is the information and a request about the third edition of the Queen Live book 'A Concert Documentary'. Hoping you can help with this. Queen Live: A Concert Documentary by Greg Brooks and Gary Taylor. In 2011 a completely revised third edition of the book 'Queen Live: A Concert Documentary' will be issued. The book is the work of Greg Brooks, as you know, but this time with the help of Queen expert Gary Taylor. We have been working together on every aspect of the book, and I have contributed some stuff that did not appear before. With GB's blessing I have covered quite a bit of new ground, and also researched certain things that GB wanted to include in the first edition but couldn't, because the info wasn't available or reliable enough then. This new work is a VERY different edition to everything that's gone before. Anything in error has been corrected, lots of changes, news photos and memorabilia, has lots of new data - generally much information added to make this the most comprehensive and complete story of Queen in the live domain ever published. From the clubs in 1970 to the last ever concert with Freddie at Knebworth Park in 1986, this new edition will include more information than ever before. More set lists have been added and the Queen archive has been scrutinised to detail not only the band's on-stage banter at certain points of the show, but also to differentiate what was said and played at multiple nights at the same venue, like the Rainbow in 1974, Paris in 1979 and Rio in 1985. For a band that spent a lot of time and effort to dress for the occasion and make their shows the most spectacular, for the first time details of the band's, especially Freddie's, stage costumes have been gathered as well as information on their stage production and lighting rigs. In addition to the original book, we will add more memorabilia, singles, albums, posters, concert nostalgia, and video releases, reviews, support bands, TV appearances and Documentaries, musical equipment used and a complete Live discography have also been included in detail as well as more quotes from band members and people who were around at the time. Also detailed are what shows have been bootlegged over the years, not just on audio, but filmed on video from audience members who were lucky enough to be present at a particular concert, who also had the foresight to smuggle in their 8mm camera in order to capture rare footage for the rest of us to enjoy. So that leaves us with some help from you guys. We are looking to include in this new and much expanded edition as many photos of the band on stage that you (the fans) have taken over the years. Or you can include photos of yourselves backstage with a band member. It can be the whole group or an individual photo taken at any concert from throughout their career. We would like any detail you can remember too, the venue, date, correct year etc and we will give your photo and name a credit in the book. We have seen many photos over the years from various websites especially, but would really like you to come forward and donate anything you have rather than us include a photo without a credit or have to chase around asking for permission to use a particular photo. You can send any comments and photos to garytaylortqy@aol.com |
| brians wig 25.06.2010 06:30 |
Brilliant. This sounds like what Greg wanted all those years ago but didn't quite succeed in doing. I'll send you through some (reasonable sized) thumbnails of some unreleased live 70's photos that I have in my collection (like sheffield 1974), and if you want to use any of them I'd be happy with a co-sharing credit with the guy who originally took them and who parted with said originals many years ago... |
| cmsdrums 25.06.2010 06:31 |
Hi You state that the book covers everything up to Knebworth 86, but then ask for any pics we may have covering their "entire career". Can you clarify if you want ONLY photos up to 1986, or can pics that feature only Brian, John, and/or Roger be included that were taken after 86, such as at solo shows, or at the Q+PR shows? In addition, if you only want pics up to '86, can these still include guest appearances (such as Brian with Def Leppard) or must they be at Queen shows/events only?? Cheers |
| GT 25.06.2010 07:58 |
Thank you brianswig and cmsdrums. You state that the book covers everything up to Knebworth 86, but then ask for any pics we may have covering their "entire career". Can you clarify if you want ONLY photos up to 1986, or can pics that feature only Brian, John, and/or Roger be included that were taken after 86, such as at solo shows, or at the Q+PR shows? In addition, if you only want pics up to '86, can these still include guest appearances (such as Brian with Def Leppard) or must they be at Queen shows/events only?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By their entire career I meant in their touring life, although we do include the FM tribute gig in the book too. So yes only up to 1986 with Queen only. There won't be any guest appearances mentioned and there wont be any solo live shows or QPR covered. |
| The Real Wizard 25.06.2010 09:42 |
Can't wait to count the errors like last time. I'll also include a tally for things plagiarized off the internet. |
| rhyeking 25.06.2010 09:53 |
I've got the 1st edition. Can I send it in for a free "upgrade" to the new edition? |
| GT 25.06.2010 12:07 |
There is hardly anything plagiarized from the internet. Practically every show has been listened to in it's entirety for words spoken and songs played. The costumes and stage show productions are all based on looking at photos and videos and my own knowledge, as well as talking to people who were there at the time. A labour of love for nearly two years now. Hopefully all errors have been corrected too....lol. |
| The Real Wizard 25.06.2010 12:58 |
GT wrote: "Practically every show has been listened to" So they *did* record every show, from about 1974 onwards? Are we talking about 500, 600 raw mono soundboard recordings here? |
| Benn Kempster 25.06.2010 13:47 |
Sir GH, re: >>So they *did* record every show, from about 1974 onwards? Ha ha - so, either Greggy-weggy has been lying to us in his oft-trotted out spiel regarding the lack of material in the archive, or they've simply had a good session of downloading from QZ and transcribed stuff straight from bootlegs. Either way, the book will be yet another standard QPL re-hash of material we all have access to. I reckon they'll sell, what, 85 copies at something like £15.00 a pop? |
| Marknow 25.06.2010 13:50 |
Best of luck compiling the book. I'm sure the pressure must be on both of you to get it right, and avoid the assembling firing squad. Sounds like a real labour of love, something really nice to look forward to. As long as you list Slane '86 as Meath, not Dublin, then you won't hear any complaints from me! |
| GT 25.06.2010 14:13 |
Lol...yes Marknow things like that have been corrected. We really don't mind getting complaints and abuse from people who might not like the idea of a third edition or another re hash of a Queen project. I personally like all comments and welcome feedback from anyone who has an opinion.....good or bad. The listening of tapes does not mean there is any more than what you already know about in the archive. I have been a collector of their bootlegs since I first got into them in 1975. Thankfully over the years and with use of the internet more shows have come to light and can now be shared and heard by everyone who is interested in their live work. |
| The Real Wizard 25.06.2010 15:15 |
GT wrote: "I have been a collector of their bootlegs since I first got into them in 1975. Thankfully over the years and with use of the internet more shows have come to light and can now be shared and heard by everyone who is interested in their live work." Do you have any recordings you could contribute to the announce section here at Queenzone? Sometimes old tapes are the best kind. After downloading plenty of shows, perhaps you could give something back..? :-) |
| Queenrockyou 25.06.2010 16:18 |
Hello Gary & Greg. 1/ Good luck for the book. I'll support any idea of compiling information about Queen, and will buy one to show my support. Let's hope you'll prepare something nice eventually, I can't wait to see your progress on the 3rd edition. It's always good to see that sort of things done, and improved. Everyone has the right to make errors, but everyone can improve something that sounds like a real nice thing. Let's see ! 2/ Can't help with photographs, but I try regularly to help Martin on queenconcerts.com with information about old unknown shows, or unsure dates. So I know we can still try and find some information fron the early days, the most interesting ones I guess. I'm sure you can find helpful information here and there, never stop working on that, and I'll be ready to buy a fourth edition if needed. 3/ I second Bob's request. If there is something we don't have here on Queenzone, we'd be happy at least to know what shows / recordings you talk about, and we would be happy to get that from you, a serious collector with a large knowledge about Queen live. Should be a good way to "promote" the book here on Queenzone. But it's up to you ! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| Yamaguchi 25.06.2010 20:47 |
Will it be sold in Japan? I hope |
| poppo 26.06.2010 11:07 |
Is there going to be an epub version? |
| GT 26.06.2010 14:37 |
3/ I second Bob's request. If there is something we don't have here on Queenzone, we'd be happy at least to know what shows / recordings you talk about, and we would be happy to get that from you, a serious collector with a large knowledge about Queen live. Should be a good way to "promote" the book here on Queenzone. But it's up to you ! Sorry but all the tapes I got from that time are now readily available in better quality. Remember with tapes they used to wear - the tape would stretch and the sound would speed up or down. The first tape I made (well it was my sister really) was a recording on my Dad's tape machine with the mic as close to the mono TV's speaker - that was the Hammersmith Odeon gig in 1975. After I got in touch with likeminded fans and we swapped and traded pictures in magazines and 7" singles for other live tapes etc. |
| The Real Wizard 26.06.2010 23:06 |
Thanks for the response, GT. I sent you a private message. Hope to hear from you, either through here or by email. |
| brians wig 27.06.2010 10:26 |
Sir GH wrote: Thanks for the response, GT. I sent you a private message. Hope to hear from you, either through here or by email. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How come the PM service works for you? It hasn't worked for me for nigh on 6 months and it's blinkin annoying :( |
| Marknow 27.06.2010 11:05 |
@ brians wig If you go to your messages, select the send message tab, and manually enter the name of the person you want to mail, then it should work. That's how I was able to pm you too. Takes a couple of days though, I think. |
| The Real Wizard 28.06.2010 10:28 |
Sometimes messages don't send, though. Be sure to copy your message to your clipboard and be ready to paste it in again if it doesn't say "message sent" after you try to send it. |
| GT 28.06.2010 10:33 |
Sorry SirGH but I never received a message.....wanna use my email address? |
| The Real Wizard 28.06.2010 12:01 |
Shall do. |
| neokaden 29.06.2010 20:56 |
Excellent, this will be a safe buy. A question that arises for me, since in the Queen's official website, mentions that disc will, and video. "Will some unreleased recordings of crazy tour? or better yet, is there any unreleased video of the concert by the people of Kampuchea (Cambodia)? (Silent Night or Bohemian Rhapsody) It would be great if they were, as this tour is perhaps the best tour of all time Queen, on the other hand, is not integrated in this great concert video, and many fans, but this mono acting, I would like to hear. |
| queenboot 30.06.2010 08:23 |
.... Perhaps you should give us a download version of the book before release. For corrections. Nothing against you, but after all, Greg has his hands in the game.............................................................. |
| Mkls 30.06.2010 12:19 |
queenboot wrote: .... "Perhaps you should give us a download version of the book before release. For corrections. Nothing against you, but after all, Greg has his hands in the game.............................................................. " Somehow I had the same in my mind when read the news... |
| GT 01.07.2010 15:08 |
Perhaps you should give us a download version of the book before release. For corrections. Thanks queenboot but I think all corrections have been made now. |
| GT 01.07.2010 15:10 |
While I'm on here I would just like to say thanks to everyone who has contributed photos and other pix. Not only through here but the other Queen sites too. Some of them are excellent and will make the book all the better. Thanks again. |
| on my way up 01.07.2010 15:31 |
GT wrote: While I'm on here I would just like to say thanks to everyone who has contributed photos and other pix. Not only through here but the other Queen sites too. Some of them are excellent and will make the book all the better. Thanks again. <<<< We all hope the book will be amazing! A band as good as Queen live certainly deserves that. Also, try to write something about the quality of the performance (be honest). Was Freddie's voice in great shape or did he have a cold? Was Brian having a great night or was he rather uninspired? etc. Such things are nice to read, especially for shows of which we (fans without acces to the almighty archive/rare audience recordings) have no audio recording. |
| e-man 01.07.2010 15:46 |
will the book be 1970 - 1986 or will it include the tours with Paul as well? sorry - didn't read the thread thoroughly |
| GT 02.07.2010 02:35 |
Also, try to write something about the quality of the performance (be honest). Was Freddie's voice in great shape or did he have a cold? Was Brian having a great night or was he rather uninspired? etc. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ I think that to cram the book with personal opinion from the authors about any of the guy's performance on a given night is not what this book is about. It is a factual account of what happened over the years from 1970 to 1986 and we don't want to make comments about certain gigs as this is all subjective and would not be shared by everyone else. I have listened to many shows and thought wow this is great....but another person is not of the same opinion....so who is right? There are a few comments in the book obviously about some shows but the majority do not have an opinion. |
| pittrek 02.07.2010 03:25 |
I seriously enjoyed the second edition, even when it included tons of both "errors" and "bulls*t" . A few suggestions - more information about the most important concerts - like Knebworth, Freddie's Tribute, which concerts were filmed professionally ... |
| queenboot 02.07.2010 04:33 |
GT wrote: Thanks queenboot but I think """"all"""""" corrections have been made now That was what I thought….. The Greg virus (arrogance, self-assertion, impeccability ) is contagious Go to a doctor soon and let you give a jab against. Maybe it's not too late for you… I hope so I wish you a speedy recovery |
| GT 02.07.2010 05:44 |
I seriously enjoyed the second edition, even when it included tons of both "errors" and "bulls*t" . A few suggestions - more information about the most important concerts - like Knebworth, Freddie's Tribute, which concerts were filmed professionally ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you liked the last edition then you will love this one. What you suggested has been done. Thanks. |
| Benn Kempster 02.07.2010 06:25 |
Gary, Does the new book refer to the existance of ALL live, recorded material in existance in the band's and their private archives. Both audio and video? |
| cmsdrums 02.07.2010 07:02 |
GT wrote: Also, try to write something about the quality of the performance (be honest). Was Freddie's voice in great shape or did he have a cold? Was Brian having a great night or was he rather uninspired? etc. ____________________________________________________________________________________________ I think that to cram the book with personal opinion from the authors about any of the guy's performance on a given night is not what this book is about. It is a factual account of what happened over the years from 1970 to 1986 and we don't want to make comments about certain gigs as this is all subjective and would not be shared by everyone else. I have listened to many shows and thought wow this is great....but another person is not of the same opinion....so who is right? There are a few comments in the book obviously about some shows but the majority do not have an opinion. That's fair enough GT It would however be good to see 'one off' factual events covered though, like: Did Brian break a string and have to use his John Birch copy guitar, and if so on which songs? DId Freddie's voice fail (not personal opinion, but fact) and so Roger had to cover lead vox? Did Freddie ever sing I'm In Love With My Car to cover Roger forgetting vox? Did lights or PA ever fail and plunge the venue into silence/darkness mid gig? Did the band trash any gear, if so what instruments and on what songs (and why if known)? Did any special guests appear on stage with them? (eg Fish in 1986?) What 'celebrities' or other musicians were in attendance at which gigs (if known?) It would be nice to know which of their peers and contemporaries attended their shows. I know some of the above have happened, whilst others are just examples of one off events that could happen. Can you let us know if these types of factual events can/will be covered? Cheers |
| Planetgurl 02.07.2010 07:59 |
Will the format (size in dimensions) of the new book be of a similar size to the first edition? I do hope so... I thought the layout in the first edition was better because the book was of a larger size. |
| GT 02.07.2010 08:36 |
Thanks cmsdrums All the points you raise have been covered.....in fact most were in the book already. I have just added a few more. If you know of any other celebs that came to watch them live apart from who was mentioned before then do let me know. Also any other bits of info you think fans would want to know about, then just get in touch. Thanks again. |
| GT 02.07.2010 08:38 |
Does the new book refer to the existance of ALL live, recorded material in existance in the band's and their private archives. Both audio and video? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Everything we know about is mentioned in the book. |
| GT 02.07.2010 08:43 |
Will the format (size in dimensions) of the new book be of a similar size to the first edition? I do hope so... I thought the layout in the first edition was better because the book was of a larger size. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Planetgurl, Yes the book will go back to the larger size format and be a lot thicker than before too. Nothing is confirmed yet. The cover will be different and much better too. After all this is going to be the ultimate 'Queen Live' book and the extra detail and layout will be the best that we can make it. |
| Vali 02.07.2010 09:52 |
many tks for the details you're providing, Gary. It looks promising ! I have the first edition and will be purchasing this new one for sure. |
| pittrek 02.07.2010 10:29 |
This looks REALLY interesting :-) |
| splicksplack 02.07.2010 10:40 |
Hi GT I have some very interesting Earls Court pics. A couple have been displayed but taken off various websites. I would be happy for you to use them with a credit. How can I discuss with you privately? |
| splicksplack 02.07.2010 10:42 |
SSorry, forget the last post. I've just seen your email. I'll be in touch. |
| Planetgurl 03.07.2010 12:35 |
GT wrote: Will the format (size in dimensions) of the new book be of a similar size to the first edition? I do hope so... I thought the layout in the first edition was better because the book was of a larger size. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Planetgurl, Yes the book will go back to the larger size format and be a lot thicker than before too. Nothing is confirmed yet. The cover will be different and much better too. After all this is going to be the ultimate 'Queen Live' book and the extra detail and layout will be the best that we can make it. Brilliant - thanks very much. |
| GT 03.07.2010 16:09 |
Hi guys, If you need to send me any photos or contact me in any way then please use my email address on the first page of this thread. I can't seem to access my PMs on here which means I can't reply. Thanks. |
| Queen Archivist 03.07.2010 17:02 |
Gary, there is some really good stuff in this thread. I'm glad to see people treating the thread, and you for that matter, with appropriate respect. Some good and constructive responses, and interesting offers of photos.... GREAT to see. Earls Court, not least. Good to see you NOT getting dragged into the more provocative silly comments, as I probably would. This is really encouraging. I hope it continues to come in. Reviews of concerts, and/or even the support acts, photos, funny stories, bad stories, recollections of anything that happened to fans enroute to gigs, etc. This reminds me... have you asked Jimmy J for his stories of following Queen around Europe on tour?? We should defo get some of his anecdotes. These things will bring a whole new dimension to the book. Queen on tour AND THE FANS WHO FOLLOWED THEM. Keep it coming. Great stuff GT.... as always. GB |
| brians wig 03.07.2010 18:17 |
Queen Archivist wrote: Gary, there is some really good stuff in this thread. I'm glad to see people treating the thread, and you for that matter, with appropriate respect. Some good and constructive responses, and interesting offers of photos.... GREAT to see. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Greg. You were treated with respect by most people here until the day you took offence at someone's pathetic comment and threw the dummy out. Since then, that's all you seem to do and you've done it again today in response to a comment made by Sir GH. Come on Greg, just leave it. It's not worth the grief and stress you end up putting yourself under and your SHOUTY replies and sarcastic comments just make everyone think you're a petulant child. Break the circle and just don't react. Gary doesn't get publically upset and he answers questions fairly as best he can. If you start doing that again you'll soon regain respect. |
| GratefulFan 05.07.2010 09:59 |
Queen Archivist wrote: Gary, there is some really good stuff in this thread. I'm glad to see people treating the thread, and you for that matter, with appropriate respect. Some good and constructive responses, and interesting offers of photos.... GREAT to see. Earls Court, not least. Good to see you NOT getting dragged into the more provocative silly comments, as I probably would. This is really encouraging. I hope it continues to come in. Reviews of concerts, and/or even the support acts, photos, funny stories, bad stories, recollections of anything that happened to fans enroute to gigs, etc. This reminds me... have you asked Jimmy J for his stories of following Queen around Europe on tour?? We should defo get some of his anecdotes. These things will bring a whole new dimension to the book. Queen on tour AND THE FANS WHO FOLLOWED THEM. Keep it coming. Great stuff GT.... as always. GB ========================================== Yeah, I guess if I was GT I would't give you my phone number or email address either... |
| Wiley 05.07.2010 10:59 |
So, is Mr. Greggy Brooks kissing his possible replacement's ass? |
| Benn 05.07.2010 11:58 |
Note how Greggy-Weggy just couldn't resist having a reserved jab at everyone in that little reply. What's the matter Greg? What prompted a public reply on what could simply be a PM? Gary not returning your endless voicemails? |
| John S Stuart 05.07.2010 12:05 |
Gary; Thanks for the polite and positive replies. I think you have brought a proper sense of gravitas to a very worthy and laudable project. For the record: Would it be possible to include a comprehensive list of all shows "professionally" recorded? I accept that these may well be far fewer than expected, and that many of these shows will never be commercially released, but let's be frank with each other. What I really want to know from such a publication (and before parting with any of my hard-earned cash) is: What recordings exist, what are the best sources of these recordings (official or otherwise), and are these recordings video/ and or audio only? If this is NOT to be the case, as a fellow collector, I think your labour of love will not be appreciated - after all eveything else can be obtained freely on the internet - or in cheap second hand copies of older sources. |
| Negative Creep 05.07.2010 13:57 |
John S Stuart wrote: For the record: Would it be possible to include a comprehensive list of all shows "professionally" recorded? I accept that these may well be far fewer than expected, and that many of these shows will never be commercially released, but let's be frank with each other. What do you mean by professionally recorded? They're never going to officially confirm the existance of soundboard recordings they have of every gig - but then, is a simple soundboard recording "professional"? I'm sure there aren't that many gigs that exist as soundboard recordings. |
| cmsdrums 05.07.2010 14:02 |
I agree with John S Stuart - it would be lovely to know exactly which shows were professionally filmed (either by QPL or local TV stations). Even if the film is not in the archives, or not held by QPL anymore, it would be good to know that at least once upon a time the gig existed in pro video format. I'd like to think from that kind of list that gigs that QPL think are long since deleted or erased, may just turn up from private collections, or from fans being able to access TV stations, film companies etc.. in their localities that QPL just can't reach. Cheers |
| GT 05.07.2010 16:24 |
Any live footage on video either pro filmed or amateur is mentioned in the book. As a collector myself this is one of my specialities....we have gone through multiple nights at certain shows to decipher what songs are from what nights that eventually made it onto a home video release, ie Rainbow and Rio and what songs are from what nights at other shows like Paris 79, Earls Court 77 and others, and where you can find bits and pieces of these shows on compilations too. |
| Bo Rhap 05.07.2010 16:49 |
GT wrote: Any live footage on video either pro filmed or amateur is mentioned in the book. As a collector myself this is one of my specialities....we have gone through multiple nights at certain shows to decipher what songs are from what nights that eventually made it onto a home video release, ie Rainbow and Rio and what songs are from what nights at other shows like Paris 79, Earls Court 77 and others, and where you can find bits and pieces of these shows on compilations too. ============================================================================================== Thanks GT for all the info you are giving us on this book. Seems as though you have put an awful lot of time,space,energy,blood,sweat and tears into this Much appreciated. |
| inu-liger 05.07.2010 18:04 |
GT wrote: Any live footage on video either pro filmed or amateur is mentioned in the book. As a collector myself this is one of my specialities....we have gone through multiple nights at certain shows to decipher what songs are from what nights that eventually made it onto a home video release, ie Rainbow and Rio and what songs are from what nights at other shows like Paris 79, Earls Court 77 and others, and where you can find bits and pieces of these shows on compilations too. ==================== You still haven't answered the questions regarding live audio recordings, sir. |
| cmsdrums 06.07.2010 04:46 |
Thanks GT. It'll be nice to get a definitive list of video footage, and confirmation of how things like Rio and Rainbow are made up. Will you also provide answers to WHY some songs were chopped in mid song too (such as Now I'm Here from Rio) - was it that the film or audio failed, purely for reasons of a better performance on a certain part etc..? Do you know how DoRo got dates, venues, events etc.. SO wrong when compiling things like Rare Live, Champions of The World, The Queen Phenomenon, etc..??? (Were original master tapes labelled wrongly, or were they just lazy and incompetent?) Thanks |
| Benn 06.07.2010 08:26 |
cmsdrums, re: >>Do you know how DoRo got dates, venues, events etc.. SO wrong when compiling things like Rare Live, Champions of The World, The Queen Phenomenon, etc..??? (Were original master tapes labelled wrongly, or were they just lazy and incompetent?) It's likely that this was left to "fact checkers" and DoRo had no input on the captions. It's entirely likely that whoever WAS responsible for this element at QPL simply decided that as long as there was SOMETHING to annotate the footage, then the bulk of people would be more than happy and unconcerned that the collecting community would raise eyebrows. After all, none of the films released have been aimed at the serious fan, after all..... |
| GT 08.07.2010 01:50 |
Thank you Bo Rhap....it really has been a labour of love though. A big improvement on what was a good book anyway. |
| GT 08.07.2010 01:55 |
You still haven't answered the questions regarding live audio recordings, sir. Hi Inu-liger, I expect that any mention of what sound board recordings exist will be a last minute decision and won't be up to us anyway as they are unreleased recordings that are owned by the band. All the private recordings that have surfaced over the years and bootlegs do get a mention though. |
| GT 08.07.2010 02:05 |
To cmsdrums and Benn, I agree with you both about the lack of attention to detail and general shoddiness on the home video releases made by DoRo over the years. I don't think they did have someone checking the facts on the screen info before the video went out as there wouldn't of been so many if they did. Then again the way they compile their footage in a quick 'cut and paste' fashion makes sure that a lot more footage is included on a home video and although we don't get to see a whole performance we do get proof of what is out there from over the years. |
| cmsdrums 08.07.2010 03:10 |
Hi GT Is there anything in the following thread that is of any significance to your book? link |
| GT 08.07.2010 03:16 |
Yes I am in touch with this guy regarding these early days, thanks anyway. |
| inu-liger 08.07.2010 03:56 |
GT wrote: You still haven't answered the questions regarding live audio recordings, sir. Hi Inu-liger, I expect that any mention of what sound board recordings exist will be a last minute decision and won't be up to us anyway as they are unreleased recordings that are owned by the band. All the private recordings that have surfaced over the years and bootlegs do get a mention though. ============================================ Thanks for the answer, Gary. Fairly understandable, I do understand already that the archive does not necessarily includes copies of private personal tapes from the members. Would be nice if they agree to something at the last minute. |
| Benn Kempster 08.07.2010 04:19 |
GT, re: >>I expect that any mention of what sound board recordings exist will be a last minute decision and won't be up to us anyway as they are unreleased recordings that are owned by the band. This is a curious response, given that you've already stated reference "will" be made to all existing live footage in the band's archive. Couple of questions if you have the time to answer Gary: Why would audio recordings not be refered to when film footage is referenced? In terms of the archive referenced, is this limited to JUST the band archive or to the archives of the individual members and someone like Trip Khalaf too? Thanks again for your time Gary. Benn |
| GT 08.07.2010 04:36 |
That's because the live video footage is already 'out there' in some form or another, even if it's only a short clip on the home videos. The audio stuff has not been released in any form apart from the odd cut that made the 'Live Killers' album. |
| Benn 08.07.2010 11:06 |
Thanks for this Gary, so, anything that hasn't appeared as a clip or snippett OFFICIALLY will not be referenced or mentioned? |
| Benn Kempster 13.07.2010 02:03 |
As I thought then........nothing new or revelatory......or, in fact, even remotely interesting enough to bother shelling out more hard-earned for. |
| Bad Seed 13.07.2010 03:57 |
Hello Gary. Have you ever thought of contacting local papers? I live in Sunderland and often see letters from people who are busy writing books asking for info about various bands who have played here. Queen played the Locarno in '74, and as far as i'm aware no info has ever surfaced about this show. A simple letter to the Sunderland Echo asking for the public's help might just bring out a recording, some photo's or at least a story? |
| GT 26.07.2010 07:59 |
After a few weeks of announcing a request for your photos of the band for this Live book, I have to say A VERY BIG THANK YOU to all who have contributed....the response was excellent and we'll have some great photos to share in the book now. If anyone still wants to send photos to me, or knows of anyone who has some personal photos from 1970 to 1986 (+ the FM Tribute concert) then please send / contact me at garytaylortqy@aol.com Thanks again. |
| Pim Derks 26.07.2010 10:37 |
If the new edition would include solo shows and the QPR tours I could've been tempted to buy it. But I guess I'll pass on this one. |
| Marknow 26.07.2010 11:03 |
Pim Derks wrote: If the new edition would include solo shows and the QPR tours I could've been tempted to buy it. But I guess I'll pass on this one. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As an average Queen fan I wouldn't agree with you tbh. I have zero interest in most of the solo stuff from all four members, for whatever reason I just never got into it. The Q+PR concerts are already well documented on the net anyway. I'm not trying to disparage their solo work, or the work done under Q+PR. I do feel it would make the book less attractive to me, and others. Plus on the logistical front that book you propose would need to be around six - eight inches thick to accommodate the information you would expect to see in it. Just my two cents. |
| Pim Derks 26.07.2010 14:32 |
Yeah, like any casual fan is interested in knowing that Queen performed a rare Back Chat/Under Pressure medley in Urk '83... I think most of the people who would buy a book like this must be pretty serious about the band and it's members. Anyone else will just buy a "The Definitive Biography" by Laura Jackson-type of book. |
| GT 27.07.2010 05:18 |
Sorry, I also meant to ask for your stories too as well as any photos. |
| GT 27.07.2010 05:21 |
And yes Marknow if we had of included the solo and QPR years the book would have to be huge and would of taken another few years to produce. Anyway there is a very nice photo book of Queen + Paul Rodgers coming soon, which looks like it's going to be excellent work from the photographer who has made this book. Thanks again. |
| GT 30.07.2010 02:04 |
Regarding unheard live audio recordings. As you know if you have the previous books, that some of these unreleased audios are mentioned and the stage banter quoted at each show. We have gone further with this edition and added new on stage banter the band, especially Freddie and Brian, said at these shows, especially on the European tour 1979. |
| Luke 1982 30.07.2010 15:41 |
even better will be include some unreleased live recording as a bonus :P (yes,fromCrazy Tour'79) |
| GT 15.08.2010 02:23 |
Thanks again guys for all your input with photos and stories etc. Could I request some good quality scans of Queen concert reviews from anywhere in the world - the ones that were printed in newspapers and magazines at the time? I have many UK ones from my own collection and many from the USA (thanks Nino), so it would be good to have some from Holland, Spain, Germany, South America and any other country that reviewed a show at the time......from any year. It doesn't matter if the reviews are in a native language, it doesn't have to be in English. Some will be used for the book and some for another idea that we hope will happen. You can send these to garytaylortqy@aol.com Once again, thanks. |
| Queen Archivist 17.08.2010 17:02 |
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| tcc 18.08.2010 01:45 |
Queen Archivist wrote: .. Cheshire cat ? Phantom of the Opera ? The QA in a burqa ? |
| brians wig 18.08.2010 03:43 |
Queen Archivist couldn't think of anything intelligent to say! |
| GT 20.09.2010 16:09 |
Here is an update about how we are getting on with the Live book. I'm looking to wrap up the photos part of the book soon and concentrate on other areas. I have had loads of colour and b/w photos from practically all the live years from you kind people out there, and some I might add look stunning. You will love what you see. I am looking to find more photos from: * any Japanese shows from any year, * UK tour 1975, * Australia / New Zealand 1985, and, it's a long shot, * anything from 1973 and earlier. If anybody knows a friend or somebody they know who has any photos from these years, then please ask them if they would be interested in having them published and to get in contact with me at garytaylortqy@aol.com Thanks again. |
| Benn 21.09.2010 09:37 |
Whilst you're searching for yet more free input from the fan base, any danger of either you or Brooksy heading over to this thread and perhaps contributing answers? link |
| pittrek 21.09.2010 09:59 |
Hey, Greg & Gary, do you have these pics / books ? link link |
| GT 21.09.2010 10:09 |
Yeah, thanks Pittrek. I do have these books, but we can't just take out photos and reproduce them without the permission of the photographer who took them. If need be we shall go down this route, but would like to get all the fan photos done and dusted first. And they must be living on another planet to start the bidding at that high amount. Do they really think they will sell? |
| deleted user 21.09.2010 12:10 |
GT - Sent you a few 1975 pics via email |
| inu-liger 21.09.2010 17:45 |
GT wrote: Yeah, thanks Pittrek. I do have these books, but we can't just take out photos and reproduce them without the permission of the photographer who took them. Yes, they are living on another planet. I'm VERY sure I could those same magazines for far MUCH less than what these buggers are asking, on a certain website located directly in Japan! :-) |
| pittrek 22.09.2010 01:30 |
inu-liger wrote: GT wrote: Yeah, thanks Pittrek. I do have these books, but we can't just take out photos and reproduce them without the permission of the photographer who took them. If need be we shall go down this route, but would like to get all the fan photos done and dusted first. And they must be living on another planet to start the bidding at that high amount. Do they really think they will sell? Yes, they are living on another planet. I'm VERY sure I could those same magazines for far MUCH less than what these buggers are asking, on a certain website located directly in Japan! :-)Can you please send me the link to that "certain website" ? I wanted to buy these thingies on eBay but if I can get them cheaper ... :-) |
| inu-liger 23.09.2010 04:49 |
Here's an issue, pitttrek: Do you know how to, or even can you type in Japanese katakana, hiragana, kanji just to search for these items? The site in question does not use a lot of romanized English for the most part! I can offer some help with getting these items (assuming they're on auction at the time) if you've got the cash and badly wanna seek these out :-) |
| inu-liger 26.09.2010 21:57 |
*pokes Pittrek* |
| pittrek 27.09.2010 07:48 |
Actually I can't :-) But yes, I WOULD be interested in HAVING these things :-) |
| GT 30.06.2011 05:46 |
Instead of opening up a new topic, I thought I would go back to my initial thread about the 'Queen Live' book. This is the very last call to anyone out there for any photos that you want included in this book. I will be closing the door on the book very soon and would like to then start sorting out all the photos that have been so generously donated so far. If anyone here, or have friends that don't visit this site, and would like to see their Queen photos published, would you please contact me at garytaylortqy@aol.com Many thanks, GT. |
| cmsdrums 30.06.2011 06:58 |
Hi Gary I jhave just remembered that I have a few live photos of the band from approx 1980/81 (plus at least one of the band performing '39 taken circa mid 70's) at home. I bought them in a backstreet market stool about 25 years ago. They are on photo paper and seem to be genuine original 'photos' as opposed to copies simply put onto the paper. I haven't looked at them in 20 years or more but will dig them out and send you some scans to see if they are of use? (From memory they are pro taken ones, not grainy audience shots, and I have never seen the pics anywhere else in any other publications or online). |
| 4 x Vision 30.06.2011 09:02 |
Does this book cure leprosy? |
| GT 30.06.2011 11:07 |
Sounds good cmsdrums, I look forward to receiving them. Thanks. |
| cmsdrums 01.07.2011 03:12 |
Cheers Gary - I've dug them out and should be able to scan them tonight (there's a really nice one of John!) |
| queenside 03.07.2011 05:08 |
when will this be released? |
| pittrek 03.07.2011 05:50 |
Well I guess you guys already have Pete Still's Knebworth photos, right ? |
| Christian77 13.02.2013 05:54 |
And the completely revised third edition of the book 'Queen Live" ??????? Where is???? GT can you tell me something??? Thanks |
| GT 16.02.2013 12:42 |
This is still being worked on as much more information has come to light over the past year and still getting photos to use from fans. |
| rocknrolllover 17.02.2013 11:47 |
GT wrote: This is still being worked on as much more information has come to light over the past year and still getting photos to use from fans.Hi, Gary Is there any news about Rainbow? Cheers |
| GT 18.02.2013 02:24 |
Yes, it it still being 'worked on'. |
| rocknrolllover 18.02.2013 02:26 |
GT wrote: Yes, it it still being 'worked on'.Thanks for answer. Is there any hope for release this year? |
| GT 18.02.2013 02:31 |
Fingers, tits and toes crossed. |
| rocknrolllover 18.02.2013 02:41 |
GT wrote: Fingers, tits and toes crossed.It means there is no hope Eh. probably again have to clobber up holes VHS with record this gig |
| Hangman_96 18.02.2013 10:59 |
I like tits. |
| Benn 19.02.2013 10:44 |
......yeah. It takes a LONG time to copy and paste and re-format material taken from various websites on the net. |
| GT 19.02.2013 11:20 |
Really? My research involves listening to live shows and interviews with the band from over the years, some of which have never been heard and certainly not recorded at the time. That's as well as interviewing various people around the band and collating new evidence about live concerts that have never been listed or known of before. |
| shannaschaffer 19.02.2013 11:35 |
I wish I had your job, Gary. Sounds like heaven :) |
| . 19.02.2013 14:39 |
GT wrote: Really? My research involves listening to live shows and interviews with the band from over the years, some of which have never been heard and certainly not recorded at the time. That's as well as interviewing various people around the band and collating new evidence about live concerts that have never been listed or known of before.I'm not being pedantic, but how can you listen to something that was never recorded? |
| GT 19.02.2013 16:52 |
I meant recorded by people from the radio at the time. |
| inu-liger 20.02.2013 02:28 |
GT, I think Benn was referring to accusations leveled against Greg Brooks that he lifted various bits of concert info from websites and sources such as QueenConcerts.com yet failing to provide credit at the same time. I think this was with the 2nd revision issue of that Queen Live book. |
| GT 20.02.2013 02:46 |
Mmmmm, that was a different time. But I do know that the guy who runs QueenConcerts.com is thanked in that 2nd edition. It also has to be addressed that many websites lifted info directly from GB's original Queen Live book onto their own sites, as it was the first source about Queen in the live domain, but no big deal was made on GB's behalf. |
| Benn 20.02.2013 11:06 |
GT, re: >Mmmmm, that was a different time. But I do know that the guy who runs QueenConcerts.com is thanked in that 2nd edition. .......as maybe, but it didn't take a genius to work out that it HAD been plagiarised and I'm still not sure there was ever an actual apology from Greggy Boy. >It also has to be addressed that many websites lifted info directly from GB's original Queen Live book onto their own sites, as it was the first source about Queen in the live domain, but no big deal was made on GB's behalf. So they plagiarised plagiarised material; big deal. *Most* of the information in GB's book, that he made money out of, was taken from other sources without thanks or acknowledgement. He set himself up to be fair game. What he did was indefensible in terms of being the 'official' archivist; his 'position' put him ahead of the game in negotiating a publishing deal. He's nothing more than a bootlegger. |
| on my way up 20.02.2013 12:52 |
GT wrote: Really? My research involves listening to live shows and interviews with the band from over the years, some of which have never been heard and certainly not recorded at the time. That's as well as interviewing various people around the band and collating new evidence about live concerts that have never been listed or known of before.Oh, sounds nice! I'm looking forward to the book. I'm also hoping one of those unheard things could be released with it (or as download or something...) |
| inu-liger 20.02.2013 14:05 |
Benn wrote: GT, re: >It also has to be addressed that many websites lifted info directly from GB's original Queen Live book onto their own sites, as it was the first source about Queen in the live domain, but no big deal was made on GB's behalf. So they plagiarised plagiarised material; big deal. *Most* of the information in GB's book, that he made money out of, was taken from other sources without thanks or acknowledgement. He set himself up to be fair game. What he did was indefensible in terms of being the 'official' archivist; his 'position' put him ahead of the game in negotiating a publishing deal. He's nothing more than a bootlegger.Kind of hard for a book published in 1996 to have plagiarized material when the internet was barely starting to make gains, never mind not much existed for Queen fan sites back then. The plagiarism accusations had way more to do with the 2nd edition published in 2005. Please stay in focus, Benn. |
| inu-liger 20.02.2013 14:05 |
Benn wrote: GT, re: >It also has to be addressed that many websites lifted info directly from GB's original Queen Live book onto their own sites, as it was the first source about Queen in the live domain, but no big deal was made on GB's behalf. So they plagiarised plagiarised material; big deal. *Most* of the information in GB's book, that he made money out of, was taken from other sources without thanks or acknowledgement. He set himself up to be fair game. What he did was indefensible in terms of being the 'official' archivist; his 'position' put him ahead of the game in negotiating a publishing deal. He's nothing more than a bootlegger.Kind of hard for a book published in 1996 to have plagiarized material when the internet was barely starting to make gains, never mind not much existed for Queen fan sites back then. The plagiarism accusations had way more to do with the 2nd edition published in 2005. Please stay in focus, Benn. |
| on my way up 10.08.2015 13:02 |
Still work in progress? |
| Barry Durex 10.08.2015 13:45 |
They are waiting for everyone here to die so nobody can spot the mistakes. |
| cmsdrums 10.08.2015 14:23 |
It's coming out on the same day as Greg's 'I Want It All' memorabilia book, which incidentally is the same release date as the Queen Archive Box Set release.... |
| rocknrolllover 11.08.2015 14:38 |
cmsdrums wrote: It's coming out on the same day as Greg's 'I Want It All' memorabilia book, which incidentally is the same release date as the Queen Archive Box Set release....that is, never |
| BETA215 11.08.2015 17:37 |
They are actually releasing stuff from his archive, we have to wait. |
| The Real Wizard 13.08.2015 18:56 |
Barry Durex wrote: They are waiting for everyone here to die so nobody can spot the mistakes. cmsdrums wrote: It's coming out on the same day as Greg's 'I Want It All' memorabilia book, which incidentally is the same release date as the Queen Archive Box Set release....Ha ha ! You guys are the best. |