qrock 19.05.2010 09:53 |
In my opinion quite a good album What do you think of it? What were the highlights? Etc |
plumrach 19.05.2010 09:58 |
I think the album is great highlights for me in order WWTLF AKOM One year of love princes of the universe Friends will be friends One Vision |
The_CrY 19.05.2010 10:20 |
My favorite Queen album from the 80s with an even greater cover art. Favorites: - A Kind of Magic - One Year of Love - Who Wants to Live Forever - Princes of the Universe And the rest is great as well. Good album. |
mike hunt 19.05.2010 11:01 |
oh boy, 3 good reviews for a kind of magic....I have a feeling it's all downhill from here. not a queenzone favorite by any means......It's a mixed bag for me....Like all the their 80's stuff it could of and should have been better. i'll start with the good. the good ones One vision a kind of magic Who wants to live forever? Princess of the universe one year of love Average Friends will be friends gimme the prize Bad ones don't lose your head pain and pleasure |
mike hunt 19.05.2010 11:04 |
I also like the cover art for some reason...pretty cool stuff. |
N0_Camping4U 19.05.2010 18:11 |
Easily the worse 80's album! |
plumrach 20.05.2010 03:00 |
What album do you like then? |
Micrówave 20.05.2010 03:13 |
Pain Is So Close To Pleasure is one of Freddie's finest moments. |
Vali 20.05.2010 08:16 |
aaaaaah ..... ok, not my fave of the entire discography but ..... AKOM was the FIRST Queen album I bought just after its release. Having met - and liked - the band a couple of years before with Radio Ga Ga and IWTBF I had no doubts and went for AKOM , falling inmediately in love with it and deciding to get the rest of the band's albums ... and becoming a fan ! So, yeah, it's not my fave album now but I really appreciate it for sentimental reasons. And of course .... Princes Of The Universe is GREAT!!!! |
pittrek 20.05.2010 08:52 |
Pure crap. The only good song is Who Wants To Live Forever |
mike hunt 20.05.2010 09:02 |
Micrówave wrote: Pain Is So Close To Pleasure is one of Freddie's finest moments. are you being sarcastic?....... |
mike hunt 20.05.2010 09:07 |
pittrek wrote: Pure crap. The only good song is Who Wants To Live Forever now that i disagree with....the album is a bit weak by queen standards but that doesn't make it crap.....the only crap here is you're stupid post.......go listen to that crap band metallica "st anger" the worst album of all time. |
dragon-fly 20.05.2010 09:13 |
At first I liked it a lot. Now - this album dropped out of my favs. Who Wants To Live Forever and Princes Of The Universe are the best tracks on it. |
jamster1111 20.05.2010 10:02 |
I think there are some pretty good tracks (like every queen album), but the rest are just somewhat average, not bad though Best: Who Wants to Live Forever Friends Will be Friends Gimme the Prize A Kind of Magic Worst: Don't Lose Your Head One Vision One Year of Love Princes of the Universe |
anthony mallan 20.05.2010 15:11 |
mike hunt wrote: pittrek wrote: Pure crap. The only good song is Who Wants To Live Forever now that i disagree with....the album is a bit weak by queen standards but that doesn't make it crap.....the only crap here is you're stupid post.......go listen to that crap band metallica "st anger" the worst album of all time. Whoa !, calm down you two, c'mon lads we're' all Queen fans here. Queens albums all have their idiosyncracies, generally their is no bad album, in my opinion 'dont lose your head is an excellent track from an excellent album. Once again i'll ask the same question on QZ, 'Are you sure you like Queen ? Master Marathon Runner. |
Micrówave 20.05.2010 15:55 |
mike hunt wrote: are you being sarcastic?.......No I'm not. If you're a fan of Freddie's falsetto, which I take it you're not, this song is right up there with Cool Cat. |
mike hunt 21.05.2010 05:59 |
Micrówave wrote: mike hunt wrote: are you being sarcastic?....... No I'm not. If you're a fan of Freddie's falsetto, which I take it you're not, this song is right up there with Cool Cat. Actually I love freddie's falsetto....vocally couldn't agree with you more, but the music?.....not so great.....Cool cat vocally is one of his best for sure, and also the music is cool. |
pittrek 21.05.2010 07:57 |
mike hunt wrote:pittrek wrote: Pure crap. The only good song is Who Wants To Live Forevernow that i disagree with....the album is a bit weak by queen standards but that doesn't make it crap.....the only crap here is you're stupid post.......go listen to that crap band metallica "st anger" the worst album of all time. Well you really LOVE that album, don't you ? :-) But honestly, I used to like the 80's albums - in the 80's and early 90's. But after hearing the 70's albums for the first time, I never could like the 80's albums again. |
ITSM 25.05.2010 06:55 |
I think it's maybe the worst Queen album (A Kind of Magic). But I like Pain is so Close to Pleasure. And also Don't Lose Your Head and A Kind of Magic... |
andreas_mercury 25.05.2010 12:00 |
queen's greatest work and a sad reminder as a lot of the lyrics point to the fact of freddie knowing he had AIDS already... |
The_CrY 25.05.2010 14:20 |
andreas_mercury wrote: queen's greatest work and a sad reminder as a lot of the lyrics point to the fact of freddie knowing he had AIDS already... ================ What do you mean? Are you talking about A Kind of Magic here or about Innuendo? |
The Real Wizard 25.05.2010 14:50 |
It's entirely possible Freddie knew he was ill while recording AKOM. He certainly knew it during the Magic tour. |
Gregsynth 25.05.2010 15:00 |
Sir GH wrote: It's entirely possible Freddie knew he was ill while recording AKOM. He certainly knew it during the Magic tour. He looked fine! I doubt he knew during recording, but probably suspected it while out on tour. |
pittrek 25.05.2010 15:22 |
Peter Freestone claimed that Freddie knew it from 1987, but he probably could at least suspect that he has AIDS. If I recall correctly, some of his former sex partners died on AIDS in the 80's so he could be simply afraid of knowing the truth. OK, enough speculations |
Gregsynth 25.05.2010 15:30 |
Here's my last "speculation:" He did not have AIDS in 1986. |
mike hunt 26.05.2010 15:07 |
of course he had aids in 1986, duh!....he found out he had the virus in 87 and takes years for aids to show up in your system. I think he got it in the early 80's. About 81 or 82. |
GratefulFan 26.05.2010 16:19 |
Barbara Valentin claimed he had symptoms (a persistent growth/enlargement in his throat/neck - swollen lymph glands? ) and perhaps even a private test as far back as 1985. I remember in one biography or another an interviewer recounting meeting Fred for an interview (1985 or 1986? - pre diagnosis anyway) and being struck from across the room by his healthy, glowing appearance that belied his years - until he approached and noticed Freddies tongue covered by a shockingly thick white coating. Could have been oral thrush, which is another common early symptom of transitioning from HIV infection to AIDS. The KS that prompted the diagnosis in '87 is generally a later progression symptom, relatively speaking. Average time between infection and AIDS is about 9 years. It's my (completely speculative) belief that the 81/82 period people usually assume for infection is too late. My guess is the late 70's, in America, around the time he was with Joe F (who he probably infected, resulting in Joe's death following relatively soon after Freddie's) and that he became seriously privately worried about his health in the later Munich years and that he knew for sure (whether officially or unofficially) by the Magic Tour. The psychological burden must have been extreme for some time. It really is an amazing part of the story of his life when you realize the pressures, panic and hysteria of those years. |
Gregsynth 27.05.2010 18:09 |
GratefulFan wrote: Barbara Valentin claimed he had symptoms (a persistent growth/enlargement in his throat/neck - swollen lymph glands? ) and perhaps even a private test as far back as 1985. I remember in one biography or another an interviewer recounting meeting Fred for an interview (1985 or 1986? - pre diagnosis anyway) and being struck from across the room by his healthy, glowing appearance that belied his years - until he approached and noticed Freddies tongue covered by a shockingly thick white coating. Could have been oral thrush, which is another common early symptom of transitioning from HIV infection to AIDS. The KS that prompted the diagnosis in '87 is generally a later progression symptom, relatively speaking. Average time between infection and AIDS is about 9 years. It's my (completely speculative) belief that the 81/82 period people usually assume for infection is too late. My guess is the late 70's, in America, around the time he was with Joe F (who he probably infected, resulting in Joe's death following relatively soon after Freddie's) and that he became seriously privately worried about his health in the later Munich years and that he knew for sure (whether officially or unofficially) by the Magic Tour. The psychological burden must have been extreme for some time. It really is an amazing part of the story of his life when you realize the pressures, panic and hysteria of those years. ====================================================== link There's the interview with an "ill" Freddie. The AIDS/thrush theory does make alot of sense, but I just looked it up, and the thrush that accompanies AIDS/HIV, strikes during the intial HIV infection stage. There's no way he could have had AIDS (let alone full-blown AIDS) during 1985! link Now, those symptoms that you described above completely match "acute HIV infection" (when you first get infected). I'm guessing he got infected with the virus around 1985 and the symptoms (swollen lymph nodes, thrush, etc) he showed during that interview were consistent with it. The guy was the picture of health during the mid 80s (at least on the outside), leading me to thinking that that he didn't progress to AIDS until the mid/late 80s. |
GratefulFan 27.05.2010 23:27 |
There are a great many sources out there that do a better job than Wikipedia at describing early AIDS symptoms and symptoms at transition from HIV to AIDS, which definitely include persistently swollen lymph glands. The acute stage is short and self contained, and thrush is a less common symptom in that stage. It's a very common symptom of early AIDS, even according to your Wiki article that states in the AIDS section that Typically, resistance is lost early on to oral Candida species [and to Mycobacterium tuberculosis], which leads to an increased susceptibility to oral candidiasis (thrush) The 'mushroom' (that's what Freddie and Barbara called the growth in Freddie's throat in 1985) was persistent over time. There are other 'maybes' that are highly speculative. An often very subtle symptom of advancing HIV infection is a loss of lean muscle mass and tone, something I believe you can definitely see from, say, Montreal to Live Aid. Of course aging along with many lifestyle factors could cause that as well, so that's really just mentioned as a possibility for interest. The vast, vast majority of infected people develop AIDS between 8 and 10 years after initial exposure and appear very healthy to themselves and observers for nearly all of that time. Infected in 1985? I don't think so. Beginning to be symptomatic in 1985 after a typical latency period and then diagnosed with an AIDS defining opportunistic infection (Kaposi's Sarcoma in FM's case) by early 1987 makes a great deal more sense. See the later (8-9 years post infection) and latest (10 or more years post infection) time periods from the Mayo Clinic: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hiv-aids/ds00005/dsection=symptoms |
andreas_mercury 27.05.2010 23:47 |
one we can all be certain of, is that he caught AIDS and eventually died |
Gregsynth 28.05.2010 00:17 |
GratefulFan wrote: There are a great many sources out there that do a better job than Wikipedia at describing early AIDS symptoms and symptoms at transition from HIV to AIDS, which definitely include persistently swollen lymph glands. The acute stage is short and self contained, and thrush is a less common symptom in that stage. It's a very common symptom of early AIDS, even according to your Wiki article that states in the AIDS section that Typically, resistance is lost early on to oral Candida species [and to Mycobacterium tuberculosis], which leads to an increased susceptibility to oral candidiasis (thrush) The 'mushroom' (that's what Freddie and Barbara called the growth in Freddie's throat in 1985) was persistent over time. There are other 'maybes' that are highly speculative. An often very subtle symptom of advancing HIV infection is a loss of lean muscle mass and tone, something I believe you can definitely see from, say, Montreal to Live Aid. Of course aging along with many lifestyle factors could cause that as well, so that's really just mentioned as a possibility for interest. The vast, vast majority of infected people develop AIDS between 8 and 10 years after initial exposure and appear very healthy to themselves and observers for nearly all of that time. Infected in 1985? I don't think so. Beginning to be symptomatic in 1985 after a typical latency period and then diagnosed with an AIDS defining opportunistic infection (Kaposi's Sarcoma in FM's case) by early 1987 makes a great deal more sense. See the later (8-9 years post infection) and latest (10 or more years post infection) time periods from the Mayo Clinic: link =========================================== I'm not saying that what you wrote didn't make sense! It's very accurate and does describe Freddie's situation! I never noticed loss of muscle mass/tone from 1981/1985 (I was too busy watching his voice-LOL). Could you send me some pictures, so I can analyze? It is true that the median time of HIV/AIDS progression is 8-10 years. But also, there's the possibility that Freddie was one of those less common, and tragic cases where HIV/AIDS progressed much more quickly (probably life-style had something to do with it). I also read that a Russian soldier named Nicolai infected Freddie and Kenny Everett in 1984? But overall, you are right: There's lots of maybes and speculation! |
GratefulFan 28.05.2010 22:48 |
I was also quite busy watching his voice, but very very occasionally, between notes, I might have been just very slightly distracted by those white Levis as viewed from the rear. I mean, being honest, wasn't everybody distracted? No? Okay, never mind. Anyway, by Live Aid the view was a lot less distracting because the main attraction of that particular angle was largely gone. Like literally gone from where it had reliably been for a decade or more. And around the same time Jim described him as having 'the thinnest legs he'd ever seen'. But like I said before, a potentially completely meaningless and pointless observation on my part. We'll never know when Freddie's fate was sealed for sure, but Occam's razor applied says he (and Joe) were probably an awful lot like everybody else. Asymptomatic for 8 or 9 years, with an AIDS defining opportunistic infection by 10 years. There's little compelling reason to think anything else. Fred had none of the risks associated with early development of AIDS (impoverished nation/living conditions, poor nutrition over time, poor general health over time, IV drug user with compromised immune system etc. etc.) He was the picture of glowing health and robustness right up until he wasn't. HIV had been silently circulating from at least the late 1960's and Fred was active by 1975 and had fully embraced the scene in both the UK and America within a short period. I personally think the pieces of information we do have tell one clear and consistent story, but in the end it's just one opinion on the wind. |
andreas_mercury 29.05.2010 10:27 |
it was a russian sailor, not soldier and yes it is probable that him was the one to convey the HIV viros to freddie's asshole. it is a damn shame he is gone :( |
Holly2003 29.05.2010 10:59 |
andreas_mercury wrote: it was a russian sailor, not soldier and yes it is probable that him was the one to convey the HIV viros to freddie's asshole. it is a damn shame he is gone :( Be careful: you can also get HIV by playing drums in a shitty band, especially becasue you're at the back and have to look at everyone else's arses in front of you. Have you had your innoculations yet? If not, take a copy of my email to the hospital and ask them to stick the biggest fucking needle they have in your eye. Best of luck. |
andreas_mercury 29.05.2010 13:47 |
that is not even as funny as my short black joke, you are just crude and retarded. |
Holly2003 29.05.2010 13:58 |
andreas_mercury wrote: that is not even as funny as my short black joke, you are just crude and retarded. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ...says the man who makes jokes about AIDS and Fred's derriere. |
qrock 09.12.2010 05:14 |
Certainly not one of Queen's magic moments. One Vision - 9/10 A Kind of Magic 10/10 One Year of Love 8/10 Pain is so Close to Pleasure - 8/10 Friends Will Be Friends - 9/10 Who Wants to live Forever - 10/10 Gimme the Prize - 8/10 Don't Lose Your Head - 7.5/10 Princes of the Universe - 10/10 |
ole-the-first 09.12.2010 06:50 |
One Vision — 9/10 (good as rocker but it ain't one of Queen's best songs) A Kind of Magic — 7/10 (original is much better) One Year of Love — 7/10 (good experiment) Pain is so Close to Pleasure — 9/10 (I like it) Friends Will Be Friends — 6/10 to album version and 8/10 to extended version (overrated song, but good guitar intro in extended version makes it more interesting) Who Wants to Live Forever — 10/10 (great symphonic ballad) Gimme the Prize (Kurgan's Theme) — 1/10 (awful song) Don't Lose Your Head — 1/10 (awful song) Princes of the Universe — 10/10 (truely gem of the album) Forever — 9/10 (good variation, but original is better) Pain Is So Close to Pleasure (Single Remix) — 6/10 (much worse than album mix) Blurred Vision — 1/10 (boring) A Dozen Red Roses for My Darling — 5/10 (a little bit entertaining) A Kind of Magic (Original Version) — 10/10 (good energic song, much better than poppy album version) |
Bigfish 10.12.2010 03:56 |
Following hot on the heals of their Live Aid triumph 'A Kind Of Magic' could be viewed as a missed opportunity to re cement Queens position as the best act in the world. It's a bit of a hotch-potch really. Doesn't really feel like an album because it includes songs from the excellent Highlander movie. This makes for a very uneven and confusing listening experience. There are some fine moments particularly the rocking 'One Vision' and the title track is one of their best 80's pop moments but 'Friends will be friends' is quite dreadful, shallow mawkish lighter waving at it's worst. |
McNulty 10.12.2010 07:04 |
Don't Lose Your Head is awful, but I enjoy the rest of it. Princes Of The Universe is probably my favourite Queen song. It's a real man's song. Makes me want to beat my chest. |