qrock 14.05.2010 17:08 |
Legendary Drummers such as Neil Peart, John Bonham and Keith Moon would easily make the top three drummers of all time. Roger Taylor maybe an underrated drummer. His width, technique and use of the drum kit as a whole is marvelous. But what do Queen fans think about Roger's drumming? In my opinion songs like Brighton Rock and Sweet Lady are highlights of his music career. By Each Album: Queen I - Liar is Roger's best moment Queen II - Father to Son is amazing with his deep toms and his great use of various symbols. Ogre Battle is outstanding and White Queen percussion is very effective. I love his light touches on Someday One Day and Obiously Loser in the End is explosive. Roger is outstanding on Queen II. Sheer Heart Attack - Brighton Rock is top class. Love Stone Cold Crazy and the smooth conrtol during Now I'm Here. Sheer Heart Attack is one of his highlights. A Night at the Opera - I rate Death on Two Legs highly. Sweet Lady is very complicated (particulary at the end) and the Prophet's song is powerful. A Day at the Races - Great Rock n roll drumming on Tie Your Mother Down. Yet again, Roger's drumming is at a high standard. News of the World - Has some of his best drum work but It's Late is his best performance on the LP Jazz - Great Power during Fat Bottomed Girls, control on Bicycle Race though Dead on Time is fantastic. I love his hi-hat sound. Jazz has some good work from Rog. The Game - I love his sound on Play the Game/Save Me/CLTCL and his fast hi-hat on Dragon Time is very challenging to try but Rock It is his best on this album. Hot Space - Under Pressure would be his highlight during an album where he was fairly quiet. The Works - Machines or Hammer to Fall for me are his two best drum "works" on The Works. A Kind of Magic - One Vision would be the best drum work on Magic. Roger is very quiet throughout the LP. The Miracle - I find Roger's drumming on Breakthru excellent but Khashoggi's Ship is my personel favourite of Roger's Drum Work. His drumming is starting to pick up at this point. Innuendo - The song Innuendo might have some of his best drum work ever. Made in Heaven - Like his drumming on this album. I Was Born to Love You is Roger's most challenging work on this album. |
Micrówave 14.05.2010 17:37 |
I don't think you can pick a song or an album. The one thing that I credit Roger for is the opening of the hi hat while hitting the snare. I believe he was the first to regularly do so. |
Sebastian 14.05.2010 21:43 |
I love the drumming on 'Leaving Home Ain't Easy', probably the most under-rated detail about one of the band's best and most under-rated songs IMO. Now, album by album: Queen: Keep Yourself Alive. Yes, it's too predictable to pick that one, but it's a cliché for a reason. II: White Queen. Perfect way to support all the magic happening. Sheer: Brighton Rock, especially isolated. Opera: Good Company. Races: Somebody to Love. It seems to me that he loved this song and played his heart out, also live. News: It's Late. Very nice dynamics. Jazz: LHAE of course, and Dead on Time as a close second. Game: Need Your Loving. It may not be as flashy as Dragon Attack, but it's also wonderful. Hot Space: Put Out the Fire. Perfect groove for the track. Works: Man on the Prowl, very underrated. Magic: Princes of the Universe. Miracle: Scandal. I know he's not too fond of this song, but still he did a great job. Innuendo: Don't Try So Hard and The Show Must Go On, just magical. Heaven: Maybe the title track. |
GratefulFan 14.05.2010 22:18 |
I kind of like the look of him hammering those barrels in the Man on Fire video. Maybe that's not what you're after... |
jamster1111 15.05.2010 10:34 |
I think Innuendo wins it for his best drumming work. I mean, the flamenco part is in 5/8! |
philip storey 15.05.2010 11:37 |
Roger is awsome!! Better than John Bonham and far more control than Keith Moon. Listen to Airheads,My Country,Love With My Car,Sheer Heart Attack.Best drummer in the world at the moment is Dominic Howard. |
queenside 15.05.2010 13:45 |
i love roger's drumming on all queen albums, he's my fave drummer and i know there are many techically better drummers but roger just does it for me. you listed all great examples of his amazing drum work and i have to add one song that probably no one else would-sleeping on the sidewalk. it's imo one of the most underrated queen songs, i just love the lyrics (how they tell the story of rise and fall of some musician), brian's vocals and guitars and roger's drumming is superb, fantastic drum sound and he is really one of those drummer that are great not just because he knows what to play but also cos he knows when not to over do it. it's even more amazing when you look at the fact that it was recorded in one take |
PrincessofTaylor 15.05.2010 17:11 |
GratefulFan wrote: I kind of like the look of him hammering those barrels in the Man on Fire video. Maybe that's not what you're after... There's a few songs where it sounds like he is drumming on barrels. I must be subliminally thinking of that video when I hear those songs! I'm a 100% non-musical person - I fully admit to knowing nothing about anything when it comes to music. That said, my favorite Roger drumming songs are: Brighton Rock - there's one part in particular during the guitar solo that I just love Now I'm Here Anything where he drums/sings - that just completely astonishes me. |
Soul Brother 25.01.2014 17:14 |
Just fallen into this thread after seeing the DW 'icons' promotion featuring Roger, Neil Peart and Mick Mason. Great thread. Peart is a magnificent drummer and technically a genius, however I think Roger has clearly carved a niche in the history of rock drumming, not just for the stuff very eloquently highlighted above, but I think as the 'singing drummer'. Anyway, great thread. |
Djdownsy 27.01.2014 15:19 |
Micrówave wrote: I don't think you can pick a song or an album. The one thing that I credit Roger for is the opening of the hi hat while hitting the snare. I believe he was the first to regularly do so.Sort of, but Aerosmith's eponymous album has Joey Kramer doing the same thing and that was in 1973, the same year as Queen I. Listen to Mama Kin in particular. |
MackMantilla 27.01.2014 16:02 |
Here are my choices: QUEEN: 'Great King Rat', 'Liar' QUEEN II: Ogre Battle, 'The March Of The Black Queen' SHEER HEART ATTACK: 'Brighton Rock', 'Stone Cold Crazy' A NIGHT AT THE OPERA: 'Sweet Lady', 'The Prophet's Song' A DAY AT THE RACES: 'You and I', 'White Man' NEWS OF THE WORLD: 'Sheer Heart Attack', 'It's Late' JAZZ: 'Bicycle Race', 'Dead On Time' THE GAME: 'Dragon Attack', 'Need Your Loving Tonight' FLASH: 'Football Fight', 'Battle Theme' HOT SPACE: 'Put Out The Fire' THE WORKS: 'Man On The Prowl', 'Hammer To Fall' A KIND OF MAGIC: 'One Vision', 'Princes Of The Universe' THE MIRACLE: 'Kashoggi's Ship', 'Was It All Worth It' INNUENDO: 'Innuendo', 'The Show Must Go On' MADE IN HEAVEN: 'Made In Heaven', 'I Was Born To Love You' |
Wiley 28.01.2014 09:56 |
My favorite Roger drumming per album. This is obviously highly subjective. In some cases it's the pattern, in others the drum sound or the groove/feel. Queen I: Don't like the sound, but Rog's drumming is top notch in Keep yourself alive and Liar. Queen II: Loser in the end and Ogre Battle. Sheer Heart Attack: Brighton Rrrrrrock! ANATO: Death on two legs and You're my best friend. Overall, Roger plays some solid drums throughout the album. Not a dull moment in there. He's always doing 'something', even in the quieter pop songs. ADATR: He shines on Somebody to Love and the drums sound huge in White Man. Just as good as anything he did in ANATO, if not better. NOTW: The band lost some of it's "magic" for this album but it was by design. More straight up rockers than grandiose compositions but this didn't affect Roger. I would go with It's Late on this one. Jazz: Never liked this album too much but I really like his insane drum-roll before the last chorus in Fat Bottomed Girls. All the bad production in the world couldn't mess with it. The Game: Play the Game... like I said earlier, Roger shines on the quiet tracks. There's something really nice about his more understated playing. You can still tell it's him. The intro to Coming Soon has a nice sound also. Flash: Battle theme/The Hero/Flash's Theme (reprise), any track on the album that has the "The Hero" riff in it. Hot Space: Tough call as I'm not even sure in which tracks he is playing and where is a machine playing. Some are very obvious. I'll play it safe and go with Put Out the Fire. ... ... I guess I'll take a stab at the remaining albums later. |
Vocal harmony 28.01.2014 11:56 |
Djdownsy wrote:Gene Krupa did it before both of them. I believe a number of big band drummers used this method to help the snare cut through the volume of the other instruments.Micrówave wrote: I don't think you can pick a song or an album. The one thing that I credit Roger for is the opening of the hi hat while hitting the snare. I believe he was the first to regularly do so.Sort of, but Aerosmith's eponymous album has Joey Kramer doing the same thing and that was in 1973, the same year as Queen I. Listen to Mama Kin in particular. I'm a huge fan of his playing, which has been very underrated in some circles. As far as picking out his best bits. Too many to mention, however RT him self has said in a number of interviews that Now Im Here was the hardest song to play. |
dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 28.01.2014 16:31 |
The thing I like about playing in bands with some drummers is the feeling of playing live but knowingly bringing the tempo down very slightly below what would be natural in a live environment, when normally people's adrenaline can quite often make things become much faster than the studio version. This style of playing slightly slower than normal, empowers band members and tells the whole band that they are in control of the audience rather than the band members trying to do everything they can to please the fans irrespective of how fast they have to play to feel comfortable. I do recall smirking with a couple of drummers in the past, as we all had a (very secret) private chuckle as to how powerful we became when the tempo came down slightly. Roger Taylor is my favourite drummer of all time and in my view he is the best of the best as a drummer. |
Lapetsu 31.01.2014 15:36 |
He sure is quite underrated drummer. He's had always excellent drum bits throughout his career but I personally love his live work in the 70's. Everytime I listen to their concerts from 70's I notice myself listening only his drum work amazed ! He truly was uncontrolled beast at that time. Especially usually before and after Brians solo spot they had this jam where he rolled his toms like madman and with John playing his bass on top of it, they really were the sonic volcano! I've always liked his way to play these fast drum rolls in slow songs, like in I'm in Love With My Car live and in The Show Must Go On bridge. Such a dynamic and exciting player! |
Gregsynth 31.01.2014 18:43 |
Lapetsu wrote: He sure is quite underrated drummer. He's had always excellent drum bits throughout his career but I personally love his live work in the 70's. Everytime I listen to their concerts from 70's I notice myself listening only his drum work amazed ! He truly was uncontrolled beast at that time. Especially usually before and after Brians solo spot they had this jam where he rolled his toms like madman and with John playing his bass on top of it, they really were the sonic volcano! I've always liked his way to play these fast drum rolls in slow songs, like in I'm in Love With My Car live and in The Show Must Go On bridge. Such a dynamic and exciting player!Great post. Kobe 1975 is one of his finest drumming shows (even Freddie mentions it), and his drumming on the 1973 shows is phenomenal. |
Mr.QueenFan 01.02.2014 20:55 |
Micrówave wrote: I don't think you can pick a song or an album. The one thing that I credit Roger for is the opening of the hi hat while hitting the snare. I believe he was the first to regularly do so.And this "little" detail makes such a difference that in my head i can't think of another way of doing it- and i'm not a drummer. Everytime i hear other groups i found out that something it's missing. And it's that detail. I only found out that this was Roger's signature when i heard other drummers pointing that out. I thought everyone did the same - for 6 years of my teenage years i only listened to Queen! My favourite drumming from Roger is "Summer time blues" on the Mick Ronson tribute with Roger Daltrey. Starts 3:13, but if you listen to it on CD with great sound it's even better. Its a beast of a song played brilliantly by Roger. link With Queen in the studio, maybe "Sheer heart attack". LIve i allways thought he was brilliant throughout, but maybe "We are the champions" and "Staying power" stand out for me. Of course the list would be different on another day. |
dragonfly.trumpeter 61319 06.02.2014 18:14 |
Your description of Summer Times Blues leads me to think that you are a bullshitter to me. If Roger's drumming was that great on Summer Times Blues then I would have know about this at 10 years old because my dad is another Live Aid veteran who would have taken the time to introduce me to this music if it had any use or meaning. I am 33 and I have never heard Roger's drumming on Summer Time Blues. This probably means that you are talking complete bollocks. Graham |