Jazz

qrock 17.04.2010 08:29	I have done Topics on ADATR, NOTW and now I'd like to see Fans opinions about the album. I would give the album a rating of 8/10 and is probably the poorest of Queen's 70s albums.
mike hunt 17.04.2010 10:58	I agree it's the most inconsistent of the 70's albums, but the album is still awsome for me. only the 2 roger songs and maybe if you can't beat them brings it down a bit. The production also brings it down....Still, most of the songs are great. mustapha rocks!.....
The_CrY 17.04.2010 11:03	I think Jazz is a great album and certainly not the worst of the 70s albums. It's really diverse and I like that. The two Roger songs are two of my favorites, which probably explains why I like this album so much. And of course there are these great songs like Don't Stop Me Now, Dead On Time, Fat Bottomed Girls, Mustapha; enough to make Jazz yet another classic.
master marathon runner 17.04.2010 11:16	Jazz is an absolute delight, even now , 32 years on, never mind 'that un's poor, this un's weak', it's a bloody good, refreshing work. Master Marathon Runner.
brENsKi 17.04.2010 11:49	knocks the living daylights out of any 80s albums don't stop me now - awesome feelgood track mustapha - great rocker bicycle race - exactly what you'd expect queen to sound like for me the weak moments are in only seven days and and the miserable leaving home ain't easy
beachj 17.04.2010 14:15	I found if fresh,exciting and very different to their previous offerings. Anyway,that was in 1978 ! Today I think it sounds weird and unique,it was recorded in Switzerland with Roy Baker back at the helm. The critics hated it,which probably means that it is a good album.....I like the lesser known tracks like Jealousy,and John's fab If You Can't Beat Them, and Mustapha,who else could write it.......!
skip 17.04.2010 19:53	"Mustapha" - Kind of eclectic crap. "Fat Bottomed Girls" - Rate it a B. Like it, but it's not one of my favorite Queen songs. "Jealousy" - Crap. "Bicycle Race" - Rate it a B-. It's o.k. "If You Can't Beat Them" - Crap. "Let Me Entertain You" - Great song. "Dead on Time" - Don't really care for this one. "In Only Seven Days" - Crap. Deacon's songs are really hit or miss with me. "Dreamer's Ball" - It's o.k. "Fun It" - Absolute crap. Can't believe Roger brought this sound to Queen. "Leaving Home Ain't Easy" - Crap. "Don't Stop Me Now" - Great song. One of my favorite Queen songs. "More of That Jazz" - Crap.
Amazon 17.04.2010 21:21	I love Jazz, but it's a very messy album. While it has arguably among Queen's best work (Fat Bottomed Girls, Bicycle Race, Don't Stop Me Now, In Only Seven Days), it also has among their worst (the two Roger songs, If You Can't Beat Them), which is not such a bad things since alot of Queen albums are inconsistent, but the tracklisting is really badly done. Thus, the inconsistncy is highlighted by the tracklisting. Regarding the tracklisting, I would have Let Me Entertain You open the album, Don't Stop Me Now close, and I would delete the two Roger songs. I would also make a few other changes such as having Bicycle Race come straight after Fat Bottomed Girls. This is what I think of the songs: 1)Mustapha: An interesting song, but all in all, not all that substantial. I would keep it, however it shouldn't be the opener. 2)Fat Bottomed Girls: A masterpiece. One of Queen's best rock songs. 3)Jealousy: A superb and extremely underrated ballad from Freddie. 4)Bicycle Race: One of Queen's very best songs and a brilliant example of Freddie's song-writing genius. 5)If You Can't Beat Them: I love John, but this song was terrible. It should have been rejected. 6)Let Me Entertain You: A terrific song which shold have opened the album. 7)Dead on Time: Good, but not great. 8)In Only Seven Days: A masterpiece. Arguably Queen's single greatest love song. 9)Dreamer's Ball: Very good, I think this is a really nice quiet song. 10)Fun It: Should never have been accepted for the album. It's arguably one of Queen's worst ever songs. 11)Leaving Home Ain't Easy: A really nice song with terrific vocals from Brian. 12)Don't Stop Me Now: A masterpiece. Queenian perfection. It should have closed the album. 13)More of That Jazz: A waste of time.
Queen1973 18.04.2010 01:21	Why are we havin a topic about jazz being a poor album Come on guys if we were to get another queen album with freddies voice would we say its poor. Every queen album is mint because freddie is on it. Bad topic. Make one thats interesting.
Micrówave 18.04.2010 01:41	So you're NOT interested that I'm giving it a 7.4? Other than it being a bridge between the two different Queens, it's kind of a ho-hum for the most part. Amazing to me is that a song like Bicycle Race became a hit. There really wasn't much too it, thought wise. You could have sang "I want to make a Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich..." but somehow it was catchy enough to get us hooked. Dead On Time is my personal favorite off the album. A few of the songs sound like throwaways from earlier sessions.
prescott2811 18.04.2010 06:07	Jazz for me well its one of those Queen albums you have to listen to more than once to get use to. I hated it when i first listened to it. But now its one of my favouriate Queen albums. Its Queen exactly what they are, taking the piss, with umour, not being serious, but being serious in their own way. It has funk, heavey rock, pop, a lil bit of r'n'b in there i would say. Everything you want from Queen. Heres my list of the songs an what i thought 1. Mustapha - What a wierd way to open an album but never the less. Its a great song, love the rocking in it when the guiter kicks in. Didn't like it at first but i do now 8/10 2. Fat bottom girls - Well what can I say? A typical Queen rocker, Its the taking the piss about the fact that woman are great with big bums. Its a great song 1 of the most underrated Queen songs or even 1 of the most underrated rocks songs of all time. 10/10 3, Jealousy - Now this is a great love balled, not 1 of my most favouriate songs by Queen but yet again it somehow fits the album, Just like You take my breath away in A Day At The Races and Love of my life in A Night At The Opera 7/10 4. Bicycle Race - I like this song but still not 1 of my favouriates, I think this where Queen tried a lil r'n'b rap stuff. The fast lyrics make it sound in that sort of direction. its a good song, funny, humour, and a good pop song all round 9/10 5. If You cam't beat them - A good rocker by John here, although he didn't write that many he new how to write a good song. it fits the album n i like it. 8/10 6. Dead on time - Well to me this 1 of the highlights of the album, What a guiter riff n fast drumming. This where Brian n Roger show of their rocking skills. A freddies capeable ability to sing heavey rock. Just like fat bottom girls its great song and 1 of my favourates on the album. An yet again I think 1 of the most underrated rock songs to ever to be written. 9/10 7. In only seven days - Another deakie song here. To me this is a perfect song to come after dead on the time on the album. it settles you down a little bit. Just like Spread your wings on News Of The World. Its a good song. 8/10 8. Dreamers Ball - The first time I ever heard this was on the Live Killers album. I thought wow what a song. Love the love lyrics. Love how brian may plays the guiter in this song. n YEt again another 1 of my favouriates. 9/10 9. Fun it - To me this is a built up to Rock it (Prime Jive) on the The Game album. A great duet with Roger an Freddie. Which I love through - out Queens career is the Duets betweeen Freddie and Roger. This song is hated by fans cos it sounds poor. But just accept it. Its a perfect song for the Jazz album. 7/10 10. Leaving home aint easy - Frist tiem i saw this title i thought it was like Sleeping on the side walk on the News Of The World album. Great singing by Brian. I like it 8/10 11. Don't stop me now - A great song by all means. I like it, very fast moving n very populer in todays world, still played in clubs and bars where ever you go. To me though I think its over rated. I Hardly ever play it maybe due to the fact you hear it so often. 9/10 12. More of the Jazz - Great singing by Roger, I love it. A great way to close n wierd but fantastic album Its regarded for being of the poorest on the album like Fun It. But like I say its a perfect way to fit into the album 9/10
ANAGRAMER 18.04.2010 07:22	Jazz was the first Queen album I bought fresh (having been converted by NOTW) To a teenage boy, it was a HUGE disappointment - released on the crest of NWOHM (new wave of heavy metal) with bands like ACDC, Rush and Judas Priest gaining a real foothold in the UK Queen fans knew they could rock-out with the best of them but, this album (at the time) didn't really deliver Having seen the GHV1 DVD, I think the answer lies there - the mastering/production. The songs themselves are probably no better or worse than a standard Queen album, but what lets the side down is the watery production - there's no oomph or grit in Brian's guitar and the drum sound is particularly papery Lyrically and vocally, it is, in the main, one of Queen's finest albums - Freddie's voice in particular never sounded better Perhaps it was down to scheduling - at the time Queen were (for tex reasons) out of the UK for most of the year, and had an extensive US tour booked - perhaps with a little more time on the production, and maybe the exclusion of More of that Jazz the album could have been a peach Sorry to go on, but in light of the passing years, and subsequent albums - Jazz does stand alone as an anomoly in the Queen catalogue - perhaps not a bad thing.....
rob s 18.04.2010 09:14	At the time that Jazz came out I was disappointed with it. I felt it was the first album they had done that didn't offer anything really groundbreaking or fresh. Over time, my view of the album has softened and I now certainly appreciates its merits and the new things like Mustapha (middle eastern rhythms) that they attempted. Compared to a thoroughly derivative set like "The Works" where every song can be compared to an earlier Queen song, Jazz ranks as one of their better efforts.
wilk 18.04.2010 14:51	It is a very inconsistent album and it sounds to me like most of it was recorded in twos and threes without the whole band being there in one go.
Amazon 18.04.2010 15:22	Micrówave wrote: "Other than it being a bridge between the two different Queens, it's kind of a ho-hum for the most part. Amazing to me is that a song like Bicycle Race became a hit. There really wasn't much too it, thought wise. You could have sang "I want to make a Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich..." but somehow it was catchy enough to get us hooked. Dead On Time is my personal favorite off the album. A few of the songs sound like throwaways from earlier sessions." I consider Bycicle Race to be a work of genius and one of Queen's very best songs. Freddie is extraordinary, the instrumentation is wonderful (I love the ringing bicycle bells), it is musically complex, and it's lyrics are crazy, wild, inventive and creative which I think work.
mike hunt 18.04.2010 16:14	Amazon wrote: Micrówave wrote: "Other than it being a bridge between the two different Queens, it's kind of a ho-hum for the most part. Amazing to me is that a song like Bicycle Race became a hit. There really wasn't much too it, thought wise. You could have sang "I want to make a Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich. Ham Sandwich..." but somehow it was catchy enough to get us hooked. Dead On Time is my personal favorite off the album. A few of the songs sound like throwaways from earlier sessions." I consider Bycicle Race to be a work of genius and one of Queen's very best songs. Freddie is extraordinary, the instrumentation is wonderful (I love the ringing bicycle bells), it is musically complex, and it's lyrics are crazy, wild, inventive and creative which I think work. mustapha- 9.5 out of 10 fat bottomed girls- 10 out of 10 jealousy- 9 out of 10 Bicycle race- 10 out of 10 If you can't beat them- 5 out of 10 let me entertain you- 9 out of 10 dead on time- 8 out of 10 in only seven days- 7 out of 10 Dreamer's ball- 9 out of 10 fun it- 3 out of 10 (Horrible song) leaving home- 7 out of 10 don't stop me now- 10 out of 10 more of that jazz- 5 out of 10
Sebastian 18.04.2010 17:32	I love the album. Very underrated.
Gregsynth 18.04.2010 17:38	I like the Jazz album. It's not my favorite 70s album, but it's still great. I also disagree about some of the ratings for If You Can't Beat Them. I think it's a great song!
dougie 18.04.2010 19:08	I would have titled the album Razzmatazz.
dougie 18.04.2010 19:12	Amazon wrote: Regarding the tracklisting, I would have Let Me Entertain You open the album, Don't Stop Me Now close, and I would delete the two Roger songs. I would also make a few other changes such as having Bicycle Race come straight after Fat Bottomed Girls. _____________________________ Yes! More specifically, I would have opened the album (retitled Razzmatazz) with an extended version of the "Let Me Entertain You" outro.
skip 18.04.2010 19:46	kevinhairsineevans wrote: Why are we havin a topic about jazz being a poor album Come on guys if we were to get another queen album with freddies voice would we say its poor. Every queen album is mint because freddie is on it. Bad topic. Make one thats interesting. A shitty song is a shitty song. Freddie Mercury's vocals isn't going to save a shitty song. Every Queen album isn't mint. Some are better than others. And some are just garbage.
danwhite89 18.04.2010 20:42	Egh its all up and down. First four songs are solid enough, If You Can't Beat Them just sounds like a jam session that they decided not to touch and it's pretty poor. I don't mind Let Me Entertain You but I dont care much for it, likewise with Only Seven Days and Leaving Home Ain't Easy. Overplaying means that I can't listen to Don't Stop Me Now anymore, and Fun It and More Of That Jazz are shocking. Dead On Time and Dreamer's Ball are great, though. Brian is consistant throughout. The album gets a 6/10 from me. By far the worst album from the 70s, and I reckon it's worse than The Game, AKOM and The Miracle.
Holly2003 19.04.2010 01:15	"If You Can't Beat Them just sounds like a jam session that they decided not to touch and it's pretty poor." A "jam session" with a lot of overdubbed vocals and a great extended guitar solo. Works really well live too,
Amazon 19.04.2010 01:23	Sorry, Mike Hunt and dougie, was there a particular reason you quoted me? :D (Don't get me wrong, I'm flattered, however I am also curious.)
Makka 19.04.2010 01:44	Ok, after reading this thread I decided to dig out the old Jazz CD and give it a whirl again after so many years. Definitely not their best album but still some gems on it. Love the guitar riffs for Dead On Time. Classic Brian May. I also enjoy the riff for More Of That Jazz as well, even though the song is a bit hit and miss. I don't find any of these songs as bad as Delilah though. A Day At The Races is for me still Queen at their very best!
mike hunt 19.04.2010 06:54	Amazon wrote: Sorry, Mike Hunt and dougie, was there a particular reason you quoted me? :D (Don't get me wrong, I'm flattered, however I am also curious.) I was gonna comment on something you said then changed my mind....i was gonna agree with you on bicycle race and it's genious.
mike hunt 19.04.2010 06:59	danwhite89 wrote: Egh its all up and down. First four songs are solid enough, If You Can't Beat Them just sounds like a jam session that they decided not to touch and it's pretty poor. I don't mind Let Me Entertain You but I dont care much for it, likewise with Only Seven Days and Leaving Home Ain't Easy. Overplaying means that I can't listen to Don't Stop Me Now anymore, and Fun It and More Of That Jazz are shocking. Dead On Time and Dreamer's Ball are great, though. Brian is consistant throughout. The album gets a 6/10 from me. By far the worst album from the 70s, and I reckon it's worse than The Game, AKOM and The Miracle. no disrespect for you're opinion, Jazz leaves the works, a kind of magic and the miracle in the dust. Not even close IMO. The Game?....not sure, alway's change my mind on that one. The game has better direction, production and had fresh sounds for them at the time, But Jazz has better overall songs I think. I'll go with jazz I think. maybe.
QueenFan76 20.04.2010 11:31	I like the album Jazz. I really don't dislike any album except maybe Flash Gordon and that doesn't really count. True, After Hot Space, I found more and more songs I disliked but Jazz was a good album. My favorites are: Jealousy, If You Can't Beat Them, Let Me Entertain You, Bicycle Race, Dead On Time (Shoulda been a single!), Leaving Home Ain't Easy, Don't Stop Me Now and if i'm in a groovy mood, Fun It. Could go either way on Mustapha, Fat Bottomed Girls, More Of That Jazz & In Only Seven Days ABSOLUTELY HATE: Dreamers Ball. Now I know why Roger & Brian came to blows. (Brian was wrong!) To me, Dreamers Ball is a bad rewriting of My Melancholy Blues. In the sense of the style at least. If You Can't Beat Them and Dead On Time are great, Wish they had done IYCBT live more often cause it cooked live. DOT was hard to play live apparently so they didn't, but it would have been a hit if released instead of ANY of the singles!
GratefulFan 20.04.2010 12:11	I like Jazz a lot. Remember this utterly insane review from RS? Ah haha haha ha! There's no Jazz on Queen's new record, in case fans of either were worried about the defilement of an icon. Queen hasn't the imagination to play jazz—Queen hasn't the imagination, for that matter, to play rock & roll. Jazz is just more of the same dull pastiche that's dominated all of this British supergroup's work: tight guitar/bass/drums heavy-metal clichés, light-classical pianistics, four-part harmonies that make the Four Freshmen sound funky and Freddie Mercury's throat-scratching lead vocals. Anyway, it shouldn't be surprising that Queen calls its album "jazz." The guiding principle of these arrogant brats seems to be that anything Freddie & Company want, Freddie & Company get. What's most disconcerting about their arrogance is that it's so unfounded: Led Zeppelin may be as ruthless as medieval aristocrats, but at least Jimmy Page has an original electronic approach that earns his band some of its elitist notions. The only thing Queen does better than anyone else is express contempt. Take the LP's opening song, "Mustapha." It begins with a parody of a muezzin's shriek and dissolves into an approximation of Arabic music. This is part of Queen's grand design. Freddie Mercury is worldly and sophisticated, a man who knows what the muezzin sounds like. More to the point, you don't. What trips the group up, as usual, is the music. "Mustapha" is merely a clumsy and pretentious rewrite of "Hernando's Hideaway," which has about as much to do with Middle Eastern culture as street-corner souvlaki. But it's easy to ascribe too much ambition to Queen. "Fat Bottomed Girls" isn't sexist—it regards women not as sex objects but as objects, period (the way the band regards people in general). When Mercury chants, in "Let Me Entertain You," about selling his body and his willingness to use any device to thrill an audience, he isn't talking about a sacrifice for his art. He's just confessing his shamelessness, mostly because he's too much of a boor to feel stupid about it. Whatever its claims, Queen isn't here just to entertain. This group has come to make it clear exactly who is superior and who is inferior. Its anthem, "We Will Rock You," is a marching order: you will not rock us, we will rock you. Indeed, Queen may be the first truly fascist rock band. The whole thing makes me wonder why anyone would indulge these creeps and their polluting ideas.
The_CrY 20.04.2010 13:07	Hilarious review!
Soundfreak 20.04.2010 14:41	<<<<<< "Queen may be the first truly fascist rock band" >>>>>>>> A very debatable but interesting review. Especially this line "Queen may be the first truly fascist rock band" is amazing. I once had a similar thought for a moment when I heard the "Laibach"- Version of "One vision". It was shocking to hear them singing the exact lyrics in german and making it sound like a nazi song. I never understood why Queen gave their permission for this recording. But it is a good example, that the same song can get a totally different meaning depending on who performs it. And if you do not like Queen and you don't know much about their background - like the writer of that review - then in fact some lyrics may sound very "strange".
Holly2003 20.04.2010 16:35	Soundfreak wrote: <<<<<< "Queen may be the first truly fascist rock band" >>>>>>>> A very debatable but interesting review. Especially this line "Queen may be the first truly fascist rock band" is amazing. I once had a similar thought for a moment when I heard the "Laibach"- Version of "One vision". It was shocking to hear them singing the exact lyrics in german and making it sound like a nazi song. I never understood why Queen gave their permission for this recording. But it is a good example, that the same song can get a totally different meaning depending on who performs it. And if you do not like Queen and you don't know much about their background - like the writer of that review - then in fact some lyrics may sound very "strange". Agreed. I can see why some people might get that impression of Fred and Queen. However, the line "We Will Rock You is a marching order: you will not rock us, we will rock you" is probably the stupidest thing I've ever read in a music review.
GratefulFan 20.04.2010 17:52	It's particularly stupid in light of the fact that WWRY actually WAS inspired by the audience rocking them while they were backstage. Snap. God forbid a reviewer should make an enquiry or two.
Amazon 20.04.2010 22:43	Rolling Stone is pathetic. As well as calling WWRY fascist, and Radio Gaga Nazi-like, or words to that effect, and suggesting that Fight From the Inside was about a right-wing military junta (which is amazing considering that Roger's views are anything about right wing), they also called Gimme The Prize greedy! How dumb is that? Have they seen Highlander?!!!
mike hunt 21.04.2010 00:57	QueenFan76 wrote: I like the album Jazz. I really don't dislike any album except maybe Flash Gordon and that doesn't really count. True, After Hot Space, I found more and more songs I disliked but Jazz was a good album. My favorites are: Jealousy, If You Can't Beat Them, Let Me Entertain You, Bicycle Race, Dead On Time (Shoulda been a single!), Leaving Home Ain't Easy, Don't Stop Me Now and if i'm in a groovy mood, Fun It. Could go either way on Mustapha, Fat Bottomed Girls, More Of That Jazz & In Only Seven Days ABSOLUTELY HATE: Dreamers Ball. Now I know why Roger & Brian came to blows. (Brian was wrong!) To me, Dreamers Ball is a bad rewriting of My Melancholy Blues. In the sense of the style at least. If You Can't Beat Them and Dead On Time are great, Wish they had done IYCBT live more often cause it cooked live. DOT was hard to play live apparently so they didn't, but it would have been a hit if released instead of ANY of the singles! i could never understand how anyone could dislike Dreamer's Ball...Vintage brian guitar work. It also sounds nothing like my melancholy blues. I don't know where you get that from. One is all piano, while the other is all guitar. also two different songwriters. Strange people on Queenzone. The next thing someone will say is that they were trying to rewrite Bo Rhap with another one bitese the dust. lol.
Amazon 21.04.2010 06:15	QueenFan76 wrote: "ABSOLUTELY HATE: Dreamers Ball. Now I know why Roger & Brian came to blows. (Brian was wrong!) " Could you expand on this? Did Roger not like the song?
mike hunt 21.04.2010 08:09	No disrespect to roger, but his 2 songs on Jazz wern't worthy to be on any Queen album. If i was him I would keep my mouth shut considering how bad half of his 70's songs were.
Soundfreak 21.04.2010 10:27	mike hunt wrote: No disrespect to roger, but his 2 songs on Jazz wern't worthy to be on any Queen album. If i was him I would keep my mouth shut considering how bad half of his 70's songs were. Never forget why he had two songs on the album: it was a question of money. From "News of the world" onwards both John Deacon and Roger Taylor demanded to have two songs on each album. And although they both had their moments they also wrote some pretty weak songs. I think it's highly unlikely that someone will ever put together a compilation of just the Deacon Tracks or the Taylor tracks. This would become pretty boring, although some of their songs become highlights in connection and contrast to the Freddie and Brian songs. In the end it's not easy to run a band like that with so very different writers. And I consider it a miracle that they stayed together for so long.
mike hunt 21.04.2010 11:25	i think that's the reason why some queen albums were inconsistent...They should have gone with the hot hand for their albums. for jazz freddie was on fire, i think even his leftovers in this time period would have been better than fun it. For the The 'game' brian was on fire, so I'm sure his left overs would have been better than 'coming soon'. Why the hell was loser in end on Queen2?....it didn't fit the feel of the album at all, and ruined what should have been the brian may seside freds.Understand it really was a money issue.
The_CrY 21.04.2010 13:26	Understand also that it's not only a money issue, but also a subjective issue. Who says Queen did not like "Fun It" or "More of That Jazz"? Seeing which path Freddie took in the 80s concludes he liked at least "Fun It" and Brian could play that cool riff, also on "Fun It". I think, if they really did not like a song Taylor or Deacon wrote, they would've said so. And for the record, I happen to really like all of Roger's songs (except for his NOTW tracks).
Holly2003 21.04.2010 13:55	mike hunt wrote: i think that's the reason why some queen albums were inconsistent...They should have gone with the hot hand for their albums. for jazz freddie was on fire, i think even his leftovers in this time period would have been better than fun it. For the The 'game' brian was on fire, so I'm sure his left overs would have been better than 'coming soon'. Why the hell was loser in end on Queen2?....it didn't fit the feel of the album at all, and ruined what should have been the brian may seside freds.Understand it really was a money issue. You could say the same about John. He really stands out on The Game, and I'm not just (or mainly) talking about AOBTD. He is great on Sail Away Sweet Sister and obviously having a ball on Rock It and Need Your Lovin Tonight.
Amazon 21.04.2010 14:19	Soundfreak wrote: "I think it's highly unlikely that someone will ever put together a compilation of just the Deacon Tracks or the Taylor tracks. This would become pretty boring, although some of their songs become highlights in connection and contrast to the Freddie and Brian songs." I could probably put together 9 or 10 songs for a Deacon compliation, but nowhere as many for a Taylor compliation. John didn't write that many songs, however with Roger, he has always been my least favourite Queen song-writer. Although I think he got better as he got older; most of his best songs were IMO released during the 80's and 90's. mike hunt wrote:"i think that's the reason why some queen albums were inconsistent...They should have gone with the hot hand for their albums. for jazz freddie was on fire, i think even his leftovers in this time period would have been better than fun it. For the The 'game' brian was on fire, so I'm sure his left overs would have been better than 'coming soon'. Why the hell was loser in end on Queen2" Loser was a terrible choice for Queen II. As for Jazz, John and Roger both annoyed me. Both Roger songs were a waste of space, and while I adore In Only Seven Days (Queen's single greatest ever love song IMO), I hate If You Can't Beat Them. I wonder whether or not Queen's lack of on-album consistency, which doesn't really bother me, has affected their critical reputation. Perhaps not, but then again, considering that they're basically known as a singles band, maybe it has in that aspect. If they had been more consistent on-album, maybe they would't be known as a singles band who also did ANATO.
Amazon 21.04.2010 14:31	The_CrY wrote:"And for the record, I happen to really like all of Roger's songs (except for his NOTW tracks)." Interesting. I'm not a big Roger fan, however Fight From The Inside is my favourite 70's songs of his, and one of my two or three favourites of all his songs. Holly2003 wrote:"You could say the same about John. He really stands out on The Game, and I'm not just (or mainly) talking about AOBTD. He is great on Sail Away Sweet Sister and obviously having a ball on Rock It and Need Your Lovin Tonight." He was wonderful on that album. Do you think that he should have had a couple more songs?
mike hunt 22.04.2010 00:46	Amazon wrote: Soundfreak wrote: "I think it's highly unlikely that someone will ever put together a compilation of just the Deacon Tracks or the Taylor tracks. This would become pretty boring, although some of their songs become highlights in connection and contrast to the Freddie and Brian songs." I could probably put together 9 or 10 songs for a Deacon compliation, but nowhere as many for a Taylor compliation. John didn't write that many songs, however with Roger, he has always been my least favourite Queen song-writer. Although I think he got better as he got older; most of his best songs were IMO released during the 80's and 90's. mike hunt wrote:"i think that's the reason why some queen albums were inconsistent...They should have gone with the hot hand for their albums. for jazz freddie was on fire, i think even his leftovers in this time period would have been better than fun it. For the The 'game' brian was on fire, so I'm sure his left overs would have been better than 'coming soon'. Why the hell was loser in end on Queen2" Loser was a terrible choice for Queen II. As for Jazz, John and Roger both annoyed me. Both Roger songs were a waste of space, and while I adore In Only Seven Days (Queen's single greatest ever love song IMO), I hate If You Can't Beat Them. I wonder whether or not Queen's lack of on-album consistency, which doesn't really bother me, has affected their critical reputation. Perhaps not, but then again, considering that they're basically known as a singles band, maybe it has in that aspect. If they had been more consistent on-album, maybe they would't be known as a singles band who also did ANATO. Roger annoyed me...After writing 2 crap songs for jazz he talks shit?...Brian should have put him in his place if he said anything. at least john wrote "in only seven day's" not a masterpice, but still a lovely little tune. Queen will alway's be an album band for me.... too many amazing album tracks to be considered a singles band. I agree with you on roger's NOTW songs. fight from the inside and sheer heart attack, while far from my favorites, still kick ass compared with his jazz songs.
QueenFan76 22.04.2010 12:53	(Dreamer's Ball) Yeah, Roger thought it was a shitty song. not sure what they fought over though Just according to a few things I read on the song. As for the comparison to MMB, I just mean the same slow jazzy kind of thing. As if Brian heard MMB and thought, I could do better (only it was FAR WORSE) and wrote DB. Maybe poor choice of words or didn't describe correctly what I meant. At least only one of you was rude about it and not more people... As for Roger's songs, I agree that neither was all that memorable but there have been worse songs by him (Loser In The End, though I like it musically) and I also never liked Calling All Girls all that much but its better than More Of That Jazz, and by others (Dreamers Ball, Rain Must Fall, My Baby Does Me, Gimme The Prize, One Year Of Love, Pain Is So Close To Pleasure, I Can't Live With You (Innuendo version) and Cool Cat)
SidedBeef 24.04.2010 14:33	Mustapha - OK song, bad song to open the album with though Fat Bottomed Girls - Awesome. Jealousy - Pretty good. Bicycle Race - Awesome. If You Can't Beat Them - Average. Let me Entertain You - Great live song, OK studio song. Dead on Time - Amazing, one of their most underrated songs. In Only Seven Days - Beautiful song. Dreamer's Ball - Another great song. Fun It - Absolutely horrible. Leaving Home Ain't Easy - Average. Don't Stop Me Now - Easily one of Queen's best songs, outstanding. More of That Jazz - Average.
qrock 09.12.2010 05:38	I think Jazz is an awesome album. Mustapha - 8/10 Fat Bottomed Girls - 10/10 Jealousy - 9/10 Bicycle Race - 10/10 If You Can't Beat Them - 10/10 Let Me Entertain You - 10/10 Dead on Time - 10/10 In Only Seven Days - 9/10 Dreamer's Ball - 9/10 Fun It - 8/10 Leaving Home Ain't Easy - 8/10 Don't Stop Me Now - 10/10 More of that Jazz - 8/10
ole-the-first 09.12.2010 06:31	Mustapha — 9/10 (interesting song) Fat Bottomed Girls — 10/10 (one of my favs, to me it never get boring) Jealousy - 10/10 (very good ballad) Bicycle Race — 5/10 (most overrated Queen's song) If You Can't Beat Them — 7/10 (gray, and inconspicuous) Let Me Entertain You — 8/10 (good as intro rocker) Dead on Time — 7/10 (not bad, and not good) In Only Seven Days — 7/10 (not best) Dreamer's Ball — 5/10 (boring) Fun It — 6/10 (not best Roger's song) Leaving Home Ain't Easy — 9/10 (very good ballad) Don't Stop Me Now — 9/10 (energic and powerful song) More of that Jazz — 10/10 (one of Roger's best rockers, and one of best songs from this album) Fat Bottomed Girls (1991 Bonus Remix by Brian Malouf) — 10/10 (Malouf made another good remix) Bicycle Race (1991 Bonus Remix by Junior Vasquez) — 3/10 (strange remix of overrated song)
Silken 09.12.2010 11:53	"Mustapha" - I love Freddie's vocals. 9/10 "Fat Bottomed Girls" - I like it. 7/10 "Jealousy" - It's one of my favourites. 9/10 "Bicycle Race" - Catchy, but never a favourite. 7/10 "If You Can't Beat Them" - Don't like it. 5/10 "Let Me Entertain You" - OK. 6/10 "Dead on Time" - Nothing to say about it. 5/10 "In Only Seven Days" - Don't like it. 5/10 "Dreamer's Ball" - I absolutely love it! 10/10 "Fun It" - Hate it. 4/10 "Leaving Home Ain't Easy" - Don't like it. 5/10 "Don't Stop Me Now" - Wow. Gives me lots of energy. Queen's most optimistic song. 10+/10 "More of That Jazz" - Don't like it. 5/10
The Real Wizard 09.12.2010 12:02	ole-the-first wrote: Dreamer's Ball — 5/10 (boring) Listen beyond the main melody - it is far from boring. It is one of most musically interesting tracks Brian has ever written.
mike hunt 09.12.2010 13:13	I love Dreamer's ball. An easy 10 star song. The guitar is pure Queen.
danwhite89 09.12.2010 14:00	Every now and then I blast through all of Queen's albums, and Jazz is one of the albums that I'm always reluctant to listen to, even though it contains a number of great songs. It opens with four great songs, the first three of which I feel give an example of how diverse Queen wanted to be and that they weren't afraid to try anything. However what the album really lacks in is the writing talents of both John and Roger. I'm as big a John fan as anybody, but I didn't like either of his songs on the album. IIRC even John disliked "If You Can't Beat Them", while "In Only Seven Days" feels dated, even for the time, and doesn't really belong on the album. As for Roger, the drums on "Fun It" are clearly an indication that he's perhaps getting tired of the sound of the time, which was evident with the sounds he used in "Fun In Space". And then More of that Jazz is just another one of his soapbox-style rants. I'm all for artists using music to relay their opinions (indeed, it's why I love Arcade Fire) but Queen is where, largely, I feel you can get away from this. Credit to Roger, he has the right to be outspoken but I'm not a fan of it. Brian on the other hand really excels in Jazz. Dead On Time is full of energy, power and excitement, a classic rocker and I'm very surprised that they never contemplated doing it live. On the other side of the spectrum you have Dreamer's Ball, a calm, gentle song which is rather classy change in tempo. I even think Leaving Home Ain't Easy is a great song. As for Freddie, his take on the album is performed in true Mercury style. Flamboyance (Let Me Entertain You), daring to go where few would bother to go (Mustapha) and electrifying pizzazz (Don't Stop Me Now, a song I actually dislike but I have overplayedness to thank for that) suggest that Freddie still had as many ideas as ever. However it's somewhat evident that he didn't have as many ideas as he always had, at least that's the opinion I come to when the decision to include synthesisers in The Game was apparent. Jazz, to me, reflects the end of an era that really had to be ended. Freddie did say that he felt that Queen had to move on with the times and while the 70s era is always looked at with great fondness, I agree that moving on was the right thing to do. Jazz has its moments, but as an album it lacks substance and new ideas. If I had to give it a rating, I'd give it a 5.5/10 which is very harsh, but it's the lowest I think I'd ever give a Queen album. It's my least favourite Queen album, not to say I don't mind listening to it at times, but it was definitely a sign to mix things up.

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