QueenZone discussion #1225398

  GratefulFan wrote: ^ I had those thoughts but chased them out of my head as mean and uncharitable.

PrincessofTaylor wrote: Word is that RT is working with Hannah Jane Fox on her album too (she played Scaramouche in We Will Rock You). You can listen to it at this website (http://music.hannahjanefox.com/album/you-got-people). I've listened to Wheel on Water and Jarvis (track on which RT plays drums) and both are exponentially better than what I've heard of Kerry Ellis.

Sir GH wrote: It's amazing how some people just can't be pleased. "Queen should get back together" Then Queen get back together. "I don't like the singer they picked because.." So they go to the show to see for themselves. "The setlists are predictable" Even though the setlists were more varied than almost every Queen tour of the past. "Brian isn't making much music anymore" Then Brian makes music. "Same old Brian" As opposed to a new Brian who doesn't have his trademark sound..

GratefulFan wrote: Not relevant to the thoughts expressed in this thread as far as I can see.

I love Brian May and all have all the respect in the world for him in the countless areas where respect is due, but I don't owe him my sycophantic love for his every creative flutter.

  PrincessofTaylor wrote: I have to say I wasn't terribly impressed either. Kerry Ellis seems to have a stage voice, not a recording voice and the song choices were odd at best. Word is that RT is working with Hannah Jane Fox on her album too (she played Scaramouche in We Will Rock You). You can listen to it at this website (http://music.hannahjanefox.com/album/you-got-people). I've listened to Wheel on Water and Jarvis (track on which RT plays drums) and both are exponentially better than what I've heard of Kerry Ellis. I won't comment on the above posts re: rumors. [img=/images/smiley/msn/omg_smile.gif][/img] Kathleen

Sir GH wrote: It's amazing how some people just can't be pleased. "Queen should get back together" Then Queen get back together. "I don't like the singer they picked because.." So they go to the show to see for themselves. "The setlists are predictable" Even though the setlists were more varied than almost every Queen tour of the past. "Brian isn't making much music anymore" Then Brian makes music. "Same old Brian" As opposed to a new Brian who doesn't have his trademark sound.. If I may put in my two cents... the riff starting at 4:13 is just rocking.  If that's one of the songs Brian wrote, then that's the best riff he's come up with in years.  His playing sounds fresh and vibrant overall.   Yes, Kerry has a very Broadway-sounding voice, but I always like it when people from different backgrounds join forces to create something new.  Good on them.

Penetration_Guru wrote: The riff at 4:13 is not Brian's.  It's a cover of a top 20 hit from 2006. link Some of you need to widen your horizons...

Zebonka12 wrote: The big question is - how many times did she have to chrome his knob to get this gig?

Penetration_Guru wrote: The riff at 4:13 is not Brian's.  It's a cover of a top 20 hit from 2006. link Some of you need to widen your horizons...

Sir GH wrote: It's amazing how some people just can't be pleased. "Queen should get back together" Then Queen get back together. "I don't like the singer they picked because.." So they go to the show to see for themselves. "The setlists are predictable" Even though the setlists were more varied than almost every Queen tour of the past. "Brian isn't making much music anymore" Then Brian makes music. "Same old Brian" As opposed to a new Brian who doesn't have his trademark sound.. If I may put in my two cents... the riff starting at 4:13 is just rocking.  If that's one of the songs Brian wrote, then that's the best riff he's come up with in years.  His playing sounds fresh and vibrant overall.   Yes, Kerry has a very Broadway-sounding voice, but I always like it when people from different backgrounds join forces to create something new.  Good on them.

GratefulFan wrote: I deeply admire and deeply respect Brian May et al and am unwilling to politely applaud doddering around with unremarkable projects simply because they've "joined forces".

Holly2003 wrote:

  GratefulFan wrote: I deeply admire and deeply respect Brian May et al and am unwilling to politely applaud doddering around with unremarkable projects simply because they've "joined forces".

I'm not sure Brian has any "greatness" left in him. It could be the creativity flame has gone out. Some Things That Glitter on TCR was a fine record, but not a great one. The 46664 songs really had potential, with some excellent arrangements and that great OTT Queen sound (although without Fred it was a bit like a Wings song, and the lyrics were bloody awful). I've said it before but maybe we just have to face up to the probabiity that we're never going to get another White Queen or It's Late, and set our expectations accordingly. 

GratefulFan wrote:

I always like it when people from different backgrounds join forces to create something new.  Good on them.

Really?  You're not very discerning then. If I were a great artist I'd understand that some fans are uninterested in lettting me off for anything less than greatness.  I deeply admire and deeply respect Brian May et al and am unwilling to politely applaud doddering around with unremarkable projects simply because they've "joined forces".

Sir GH wrote:

  GratefulFan wrote:  

    I always like it when people from different backgrounds join forces to create something new.  Good on them.

Really?  You're not very discerning then. If I were a great artist I'd understand that some fans are uninterested in lettting me off for anything less than greatness.  I deeply admire and deeply respect Brian May et al and am unwilling to politely applaud doddering around with unremarkable projects simply because they've "joined forces".

To clarify, I meant I like the idea of someone doing that.  Of course I didn't intend to say I automatically like the resulting music.  The idea on paper and the resulting music naturally are two different things.

cacatua wrote: Brian is so fired up about the plight of wild creatures that I emailed him and told him that he had written great anthems like WWRY and IWIA and now he should write one for wildlife as long as he is putting himself out there in their defense anyway. Seems like a marriage made in heaven, though not much for you folks who care nothing about such things. Apparently he didn't exactly jump for joy at the thought  and email me back, so I think you all are safe from having to comment about such a thing.  ;o)

GratefulFan wrote:

cacatua wrote: Brian is so fired up about the plight of wild creatures that I emailed him and told him that he had written great anthems like WWRY and IWIA and now he should write one for wildlife as long as he is putting himself out there in their defense anyway. Seems like a marriage made in heaven, though not much for you folks who care nothing about such things. Apparently he didn't exactly jump for joy at the thought  and email me back, so I think you all are safe from having to comment about such a thing.  ;o)

This is a nutty thread.  A couple of people say they're not feeling the Kerry Ellis thing and that gets extrapolated all over the place. LOL Who doesn't care about animals now?  I care about animals a lot. Certainly enough to wish Brian was serving up a few less plates of steaming crazy on the subject. As a personal philosophy "I want it all and I want it now" should have stayed between Anita and her bathroom mirror or whatever.  Nothing worth making immortal through song IMO.

GratefulFan wrote:

  cacatua wrote: Brian is so fired up about the plight of wild creatures that I emailed him and told him that he had written great anthems like WWRY and IWIA and now he should write one for wildlife as long as he is putting himself out there in their defense anyway. Seems like a marriage made in heaven, though not much for you folks who care nothing about such things. Apparently he didn't exactly jump for joy at the thought  and email me back, so I think you all are safe from having to comment about such a thing.  ;o)

This is a nutty thread.  A couple of people say they're not feeling the Kerry Ellis thing and that gets extrapolated all over the place. LOL Who doesn't care about animals now?  I care about animals a lot. Certainly enough to wish Brian was serving up a few less plates of steaming crazy on the subject. As a personal philosophy "I want it all and I want it now" should have stayed between Anita and her bathroom mirror or whatever.  Nothing worth making immortal through song IMO.

Zebonka12 wrote: As much as I'm sure he could write a Badger song, the world really does not need another "The Call".  I loved the recording, but the lyrics were a clear example of when the song takes a back seat to the message.  Some people can do the preachy thing - Brian can't.  I make "White Man" the exception because the lyrics were way more thoughtful.  It mightn't be everyone's favourite track but at least it doesn't sound like he wrote the whole thing with a rhyming dictionary.

Zebonka12 wrote: As much as I'm sure he could write a Badger song, the world really does not need another "The Call".  I loved the recording, but the lyrics were a clear example of when the song takes a back seat to the message.  Some people can do the preachy thing - Brian can't.  I make "White Man" the exception because the lyrics were way more thoughtful.  It mightn't be everyone's favourite track but at least it doesn't sound like he wrote the whole thing with a rhyming dictionary.

Holly2003 wrote:

  Penetration_Guru wrote: The riff at 4:13 is not Brian's.  It's a cover of a top 20 hit from 2006. link Some of you need to widen your horizons...

Good point. I need to get rid of my Judas priest collection and listen to more boybands... :)

GratefulFan wrote: Cachet, I really believe that's it not at all his involvement with animal issues that people roll their eyes at.   It's the megalomaniacal and nearly reason free approach that really, really throws up barriers between his passion and the people he'd presumably like to motivate. We all suffer from a lack of perfect self awareness to a degree, but Brian has really taken it to a whole new level.

Sir GH wrote:  

   

GratefulFan wrote:     Not relevant to the thoughts expressed in this thread as far as I can see.

 

The last two points are.  I'm just doing a commentary on the fact that there are people who condemn any Queen or Brian-related project to the point that it's almost funny because they're the same people who are complaining about the boys not being busy enough to the degree that they, the fans, would like them to be.  And once they get busy, they find something else to complain about.

  inu-liger wrote:       Sir GH wrote:      

                              GratefulFan wrote:               Not relevant to the thoughts expressed in this thread as far as I can see.              

The last two points are.  I'm just doing a commentary on the fact that there are people who condemn any Queen or Brian-related project to the point that it's almost funny because they're the same people who are complaining about the boys not being busy enough to the degree that they, the fans, would like them to be.  And once they get busy, they find something else to complain about.

Holly2003 wrote:

      inu-liger wrote:               Sir GH wrote:              

                                                              GratefulFan wrote:                               Not relevant to the thoughts expressed in this thread as far as I can see.                              

The last two points are.  I'm just doing a commentary on the fact that there are people who condemn any Queen or Brian-related project to the point that it's almost funny because they're the same people who are complaining about the boys not being busy enough to the degree that they, the fans, would like them to be.  And once they get busy, they find something else to complain about.

And this proves Mr. Brooks right in calling this slight waste of a 'fandom' website "MOANZONE"

PrincessofTaylor wrote: Yup - I've "applied" twice and been ignored. Looks like they are doing a server move in a few weeks and everyone is going to have to reregister. I plan on applying a third time to determine if they are just completely incompetent or if I've done something to seriously piss off the powers that be over there!

  inu-liger wrote: As expected, you guys completely sidestep the issue Sir GH rightfully brought up (which was the fact you guys fucking BITCH to no end about everything, no matter what it is!) and basically accuse myself and few others of having a rose-tinted agenda. Reality check btw: things aren't too much different over at QOL last I checked - people bitch quite a bit over there too, however at least thankfully they actually have mods to step in when things may get very out of hand. Just sayin'

  cacatua wrote:  

      PrincessofTaylor wrote:   Yup - I've "applied" twice and been ignored. Looks like they are doing a server move in a few weeks and everyone is going to have to reregister. I plan on applying a third time to determine if they are just completely incompetent or if I've done something to seriously piss off the powers that be over there!  

My email inquiries were returned as being undeliverable too. This was months ago. I decided they could go fuck themselves.

inu-liger wrote: As expected, you guys completely sidestep the issue Sir GH rightfully brought up (which was the fact you guys fucking BITCH to no end about everything, no matter what it is!) and basically accuse myself and few others of having a rose-tinted agenda. Reality check btw: things aren't too much different over at QOL last I checked - people bitch quite a bit over there too, however at least thankfully they actually have mods to step in when things may get very out of hand. Just sayin'

Zebonka12 wrote: The Call was a 46664 track.

Sir GH wrote: It's amazing how some people just can't be pleased. "Queen should get back together" Then Queen get back together. "I don't like the singer they picked because.." So they go to the show to see for themselves. "The setlists are predictable" Even though the setlists were more varied than almost every Queen tour of the past. "Brian isn't making much music anymore" Then Brian makes music. "Same old Brian" As opposed to a new Brian who doesn't have his trademark sound..