QueenZone discussion #1221720

Finally, knowing what you have in your video collections - what footage would you include in such a release?

pittrek wrote:

Finally, knowing what you have in your video collections - what footage would you include in such a release?

Procession - intro from the film "Live at the Rainbow" Son And Daughter - Rainbow 31.3.1974 Modern Times Rock'n'Roll - Rainbow 31.3.1974 Stone Cold Crazy - Rainbow xx.11.1974 Now I'm Here - Budokan 1.5.1975 White Queen (As It Began) - Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975 Liar - Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975 Bohemian Rhapsody (intro) - Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975 Bohemian Rhapsody (the rest) / Ogre Battle - Hyde Park 18.9.1976 The Prophet's Song - Hyde Park 18.9.1976 White Man / The Prophet's Song reprise - Earls Court 6.6.1977 Doing Alright - Earls Court 6.6.1977 Rock'n'roll medley - Earls Court - 7.6.1977 The Millionaire Waltz - Houston 11.12.1977 Let Me Entertain You - Paris 28.2.1979 If You Can't Beat Them - Paris 1.3.1979 Teo Torriate - Budokan 25.4.1979 Jailhouse Rock / We Will Rock You (fast) - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Mustapha / Death On Two Legs / Killer Queen / I'm In Love With My Car / Get Down Make Love / You're My Best Friend - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Don't Stop Me Now - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Keep Yourself Alive / drum solo / guitar solo / Silent Night / Brighton Rock reprise - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Sheer Heart Attack - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Need Your Lovin' Tonight - Buenos Aires, 1.3.1981 Another One Bites The Dust - Sao Paolo, 20.3.1981 Staying Power - Milton Keynes, 5.6.1982 Somebody To Love - Milton Keynes 5.6.1982 Save Me - Milton Keynes, 5.6.1982 Crazy Little Thing Called Love - Tokorozawa, 3.11.1982 Rock In Rio Blues / A Hard Life - Rio De Janeiro, 19.1.1985 Love Of My Life - Rio De Janeiro, 19.1.1985 We Will Rock You - Wembley, 13.7.1985 A Kind Of Magic - Budapest, 27.7.1986 One Vision - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 Tie Your Mother Down - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 Hammer To Fall - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 We Will Rock You / Friends Will Be Friends / We Are The Champions / God Save The Queen - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 Enough ?

brians wig wrote: You are correct about some of the video work being less than professional on some concerts, but PLEASE don't start talking about "rare live vol2" as someone from Queen Productions will think that's a great idea and before we know it that'll be another waste of time release we get.... [img=/images/smiley/msn/sad_smile.gif][/img]

peterkoz1 wrote: Year 2011 - Queen Rock Band

2012 - Queen Lego 

2013 - Queen Greatest Hits 1,2,3 DVD special Box Set

2020 - Queen The Magical Years 70, 80, 90,s 10cd , demos b- sides outakes + 2dvd of a concert from each era in super hd/ 3d (the one we have all been waiting for) I will be only 48 !!!

£3.99p low quality crap

Negative Creep wrote: Earls Court has already been spruced up hasn't it? A clip was shown on something recentlyish with newly remixed audio - perfectly releaseable and the picture quality pisses all over Milton Keynes and Wembley. There's 2 nights of audio and visuals to choose from, so there's gonna be no problems is there? If QPL don't (for reasons only known to themselves) believe material like that won't sell that well - as a trial, advertise it as a limited edition via QOL and sell direct or release several gigs in a boxset along with a sampler type thing for the general market. QPL know there are hundreads of thousands of fans interested in these gigs - why only release excerpts? And of course - they could always try giving value for money and release full gigs as bonus material like the Who did with their last DVD. The Coliseum show is great to watch - despite the footage not being 100% amazing and the audio clearly being sourced from a vintage mono mix.

pittrek wrote:

Finally, knowing what you have in your video collections - what footage would you include in such a release?

Procession - intro from the film "Live at the Rainbow" Son And Daughter - Rainbow 31.3.1974 Modern Times Rock'n'Roll - Rainbow 31.3.1974 Stone Cold Crazy - Rainbow xx.11.1974 Now I'm Here - Budokan 1.5.1975 White Queen (As It Began) - Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975 Liar - Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975 Bohemian Rhapsody (intro) - Hammersmith Odeon 24.12.1975 Bohemian Rhapsody (the rest) / Ogre Battle - Hyde Park 18.9.1976 The Prophet's Song - Hyde Park 18.9.1976 White Man / The Prophet's Song reprise - Earls Court 6.6.1977 Doing Alright - Earls Court 6.6.1977 Rock'n'roll medley - Earls Court - 7.6.1977 The Millionaire Waltz - Houston 11.12.1977 Let Me Entertain You - Paris 28.2.1979 If You Can't Beat Them - Paris 1.3.1979 Teo Torriate - Budokan 25.4.1979 Jailhouse Rock / We Will Rock You (fast) - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Mustapha / Death On Two Legs / Killer Queen / I'm In Love With My Car / Get Down Make Love / You're My Best Friend - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Don't Stop Me Now - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Keep Yourself Alive / drum solo / guitar solo / Silent Night / Brighton Rock reprise - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Sheer Heart Attack - Hammersmith Odeon 26.12.1979 Need Your Lovin' Tonight - Buenos Aires, 1.3.1981 Another One Bites The Dust - Sao Paolo, 20.3.1981 Staying Power - Milton Keynes, 5.6.1982 Somebody To Love - Milton Keynes 5.6.1982 Save Me - Milton Keynes, 5.6.1982 Crazy Little Thing Called Love - Tokorozawa, 3.11.1982 Rock In Rio Blues / A Hard Life - Rio De Janeiro, 19.1.1985 Love Of My Life - Rio De Janeiro, 19.1.1985 We Will Rock You - Wembley, 13.7.1985 A Kind Of Magic - Budapest, 27.7.1986 One Vision - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 Tie Your Mother Down - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 Hammer To Fall - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 We Will Rock You / Friends Will Be Friends / We Are The Champions / God Save The Queen - Knebworth Park 9.8.1986 Enough ?

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Right guys, I know that a lot of us have been speculating over, dreaming about and arguing the point of the release of new live material.  Whether it is snippets from Knebworth, the full Hammy '75 show, Houston '77 or something from the Crazy Tour, we've spoken it over again and again. Tonight, I was trawling through some of the booted DVDs  I currently own, and can perhaps see the point of why Queen aren't releasing this stuff.  I know there's some clips here and there in the so-called archives, but let's face it - the only full recordings that exist and have not yet seen DVD or HD release are Rainbow '74 (ok, not exactly full but most has survived); Hammersmith '75 and '79, Hyde Park'76; Earls Court and Houston '77; Sao Paolo, Buenos Aires and Caracas '81; Japan '82 and '85; Rio '85 and Budapest '86 and WE ALL already have this in some form or other. Look back on your footage - it's LESS than great.  I know the original generations will be in better quality, but I'm talking more along the lines of the actual professionalism of the recordings - for example, during "White Queen" at Earls Court, the camera only appears to focus on Brian. Also the sound cuts during several parts of the show and there are many instances where the shots are out of focus.   Hyde Park is full of imperfections also, and this really does continue throughout most of the recordings I've seen (and that includes such footage owned by the "big-hitters").  For me, they just didn't capture the live atmosphere one would expect, like the Wembley and Budapest Shows did. And, apart from that - and I hate to say it - the performances aren't always spot-on either...

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Spruced up how mate?  You say you saw a clip, but maybe that clip was taken from what footage is actually salvagable from the show

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: Releasing full but lesser-quality shows to the general public may (probably) just bring more poor sales and further detriment to the Queen name.

during "White Queen" at Earls Court, the camera only appears to focus on Brian. Also the sound cuts during several parts of the show and there are many instances where the shots are out of focus.

Soapy Gonad wrote:  Hello QweenZ, I have some rare footage on 8mm film that I would like to submit to an archive, but I lost it up my oathole so now I don't have it anymore. It was of John Deacons fusting himself before stepping on stage to deliver a powerful lecture on how high a bass guitar should be worn. He also got lost up my oathole. When I was listening to Hot Space last night I funked like a demon on a picture of Brian May. I can't stop singing that Ford song he did. It's tits! SG x

Sir GH wrote: I strongly disagree.  People understand that old footage may not be great quality.  Record sales will never slow down because of DVDs that aren't up to snuff. - Hi Bob!  I didn't mean that the quality of the material would result in poor sales.  What I was getting at, as we kind of already know about Queen, is that they don't have the cred anymore for stuff like this to generate huge sales through general release - apart from us, nobody cares.  If a CD of their greatest can't cut it amongst new buyers these days, then the vintage stuff that we know and love certainly won't.  We all, or at least the majority of us (despite the moaning lol) bought AG and Cosmos Rocks, and it still wasn't enough to bolster the Queen name....we all know that, regardless of the quality, we would buy an Earls Court or Hyde Park show if it was released officially (fuck, most of us would buy a recording of Freddie's greatest farts if available) but no one else really gives a toss.  We are a dying breed mate, and even at that, we can't agree amongst ourselves.  There are about 10 DVDs of Hendrix shows, mostly from 1969 and 1970.  There's no way there isn't enough Queen footage in their vaults that isn't at least equal quality to Hendrix footage that's 5-10 years older. That's a great point, but unfortunately we are living in the age of morons mate - it's not cool to like Queen because the singer was, well, a queen who died of Aids.  That's laughed at by most of the people I know - it's a running joke to everyone that I like Queen.  Even those who maybe like some of their music won't openly admit it - there's a sort of stigma attached to liking Fred.  However, it's cool to like a guitarist who snorted himself to death - that's more enviable than dying of a homo-related illness, you know.  So that's why, IMHO, Hendrix sells better - apart from the guys who are genuine fans and buy it because any collector will, all the little plebs think it's cool.  If it was the other way round, I don't think we'd see the amount of Hendrix releases we have.

during "White Queen" at Earls Court, the camera only appears to focus on Brian. Also the sound cuts during several parts of the show and there are many instances where the shots are out of focus.

This video we have is most likely the feed that was shown live on the two screens at the concert.  Even if that isn't the case, the footage the other cameras filmed should still be in the archives, provided that they've stood the test of time. The footage I have on my boot DVDs appears to be the same footage used when small segments of it are placed as clips in documentaries or the likes of rare live - if they had better, wouldn't they have used that already?  

  Sir GH wrote: They definitely did.  Someone just sent me a review of the second night (6-7-77) that wrote about the video screen being used, so that's a pretty huge find. link

Sir GH wrote: They definitely did.  Someone just sent me a review of the second night (6-7-77) that wrote about the video screen being used, so that's a pretty huge find. link

Negative Creep wrote: I'm not sure why some Queen fans are so obsessed with seeing the audience to be honest.

Thistleboy 1980 wrote: That's a great point, but unfortunately we are living in the age of morons mate - it's not cool to like Queen because the singer was, well, a queen who died of Aids.  That's laughed at by most of the people I know - it's a running joke to everyone that I like Queen.  Even those who maybe like some of their music won't openly admit it - there's a sort of stigma attached to liking Fred.

The footage I have on my boot DVDs appears to be the same footage used when small segments of it are placed as clips in documentaries or the likes of rare live - if they had better, wouldn't they have used that already?

Bad Seed wrote: I thought the cameras were there to film for a potential release. Its now quite possible that the only footage available is the feed to the screens. This would explain why we have zero shots of the crowd as there was no need to film them.

              Sir GH wrote: Indeed.  But luckily there are two nights, so there most likely is enough footage to compile an Earls Court 77 DVD even with mono sound.  It would sell as well as any 70s concert DVD from popular bands of the time.  People understand that old footage isn't perfect blue-ray quality.  Old footage has a certain charm to it.  It's a document of 1977, not of 2007.  The Who did it with their 1977 Kilburn concert.  It's mono sound, it looks old, but it's beyond awesome.