| John S Stuart 25.02.2010 10:56 |
It seems that we have tapped into a vein of goodwill - with some 'zoners willing to contribute to a live fan-made Queen + Paul Rodgers project. (The first of many I hope - but let's learn to crawl first). I see this division of labour as four key stages. Planning Let's talk about what is out there and first decide on a hypothtical best set/disc scanario. Would it be better to focus on solely one gig - or - a 'best of' (Live Killers) generic type set? If it means that it is just a case of tweaking what V. has already produced - then so be it. Contribution Based on the goodwill of those who attended - live video and/or audio contributions can be forwarded to the production stage/committee. Production After the planning and contributions have been recieved - this can be forwarded to the prodution guys. This could be for video and sound together - or as as seperated ventures. Hi-def could be reduced to DVD quality - or DVD upscaled to HD (only so that the production has an even feel to it) without the bouncing around of quality. That would need to be a production decission. Distribution After everyone has agreed on a finalised product (with or without cover art) distributers could be used as bit-torrent seeders (or whatever). Rather than moanzone, or just the negativity of this place being called to question - why not produce something positive? (I know that it's easy for me to say - as I have nothing to contribute this time around - but if this was successful, who knows what the future could bring?) |
| pittrek 25.02.2010 11:21 |
Since my DVDs are quite popular here, I offer my "authoring services" if you want. I will also check if I have any usable photos from Vienna '08 |
| people on streets 25.02.2010 11:25 |
Excellent posts! I'm happy to contribute. From my point of view a compliation from all the seldom played live songs could be great. A quick copy past from queenconcerts.com gives an idea of wich songs i'm talking about: 2005 tour: A Little Bit Of Love (first 6 concerts only) Seagull (first 6 concerts only) Another One Bites The Dust (from Birmingham on) Under Pressure (6 of the UK/Irish gigs) Fire And Water (Belfast, Dublin and Tokyo only) Long Away (one verse only - Pesaro, Budapest, Yokohama, Nagoya, Fukuoka) Tavaszi Szél Vizet Áraszt (part only - Budapest) '39 - two verses (first time in Leipzig, then in several more gigs) Danube Waltz (in guitar solo - Vienna) Molly Malone (in guitar solo - Dublin) Sakura (in guitar solo - Tokyo) Sunshine Of Your Love (part - Newcastle) Imagine (Hyde Park only) Bad Company (Aruba, both US dates + 2 Japanese dates) Rock'n'roll Fantasy (Aruba, both US dates) Teo Torriatte (Japanese dates only) I Was Born To Love You (Japanese dates only) 2006 tour: I Want To Break Free (9 concerts only) '39 (4 concerts only) Say It's Not True (Miami only) Red House (Vancouver only) 2008 tour: Shooting Star (Kharkov and first night in Moscow only) One Vision (Kharkov, 2x Moscow and Riga only) Wishing Well (Kharkov and 2x Moscow only) Warboys (second night in Moscow, Riga and Berlin only) Feel Like Makin' Love (approx. half of the gigs) Time To Shine (Antwerp only) The Stealer (Zurich only) Keep Yourself Alive (in the guitar solo, last gigs of the tour) Barcelona (in the guitar solo, Barcelona only) Las Palabras De Amor (Madrid, Santiago De Chile, Buenos Aires) Concierto de Aranjuez (in the guitar solo, Madrid only) Tavaszi Szél Vizet Áraszt (before the acoustic set, Budapest only) Blue Danube Waltz (before the acoustic set, Vienna only) Fog On The Tyne (in the guitar solo, Newcastle only) Voodoo (6 concerts towards the end of the tour) Maybe It's Because I'm A Londoner (before the acoustic set, London 07.11.2008 only) Under Pressure (last 4 gigs) |
| people on streets 25.02.2010 11:27 |
I can offer my Antwerp '08 'Time To Shine' recording. Shot with a mini dv camcorder (standard def.) some filters and a monopod. |
| e-man 25.02.2010 11:28 |
I really like this idea! should it be one for each tour? |
| people on streets 25.02.2010 11:31 |
I guess the volume of the total set depends on the material that's being donated. |
| bigV 25.02.2010 11:34 |
My recording of "The Blue Danube Waltz" from Vienna is available if anyone wants it. V. |
| Vali 25.02.2010 11:53 |
I recorded Las Palabras De Amor in Madrid with my digital photo cam from 2nd row at the end of the catwalk. The audio should be overdubbed with a better recording, as in my video the audience (including me) goes crazy singing the words. But the shot is so close to Brian and Roger that it's really worthy of giving it a chance. |
| John S Stuart 25.02.2010 12:19 |
I think the thing is let's do something easy and 'do-able' first. So how about starting with the most recent tour 2008? After a Generic (Live Killers) type collection - we can then move onto 2007? BTW: This is not my thread or idea - anyone can contribute. I am just throwing out some ideas for others to consider. So it is really vital that every 'zoner' has a say - so please contribute to the discussion! |
| The Real Wizard 25.02.2010 12:35 |
I'd love to help out, but I don't have any QPR stuff aside from what's been available here. I sincerely hope this is one hell of a project. Give me a ring when a similar project is done for 70s and 80s Queen. |
| Mr Mercury 25.02.2010 12:42 |
people on streets wrote: I can offer my Antwerp '08 'Time To Shine' recording. Shot with a mini dv camcorder (standard def.) some filters and a monopod. I would like to see that!!!! |
| e-man 25.02.2010 13:48 |
are some of the official dowloads regarded as "definitive" versions? I have them all (paid for) and I'll easily contribute them to this project unlesss it's considered official material. (grey zone, I admit) I have some The Who dvds from 2002 where they have taken audience video recordings and dubbed them with official audio bootlegs, and the end result is quite something. |
| people on streets 25.02.2010 15:26 |
Mr Mercury wrote:people on streets wrote: I can offer my Antwerp '08 'Time To Shine' recording. Shot with a mini dv camcorder (standard def.) some filters and a monopod.I would like to see that!!!! If enough queenzoners participate in this project you will see it! There are actually 2 mini dv sources from this song and I can tell you the 2 source edit looks quit nice! |
| bigV 25.02.2010 16:30 |
e-man wrote: are some of the official dowloads regarded as "definitive" versions? I have them all (paid for) and I'll easily contribute them to this project unlesss it's considered official material. (grey zone, I admit) I have some The Who dvds from 2002 where they have taken audience video recordings and dubbed them with official audio bootlegs, and the end result is quite something.Here's an example of that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFMMXxpgaxk This is overdubbed with an official download. But it's not grey area at all. It should not be done or if it is done it shouldn't be shared here. But YouTube videos are okay :-D V. |
| Crazy LittleThing 25.02.2010 18:36 |
Didn't someone organize a multiple camera shoot at the Meadowlands (Arena) gig in New Jersey in October 2005? |
| e-man 26.02.2010 04:45 |
there's a dvd (double) from the meadowlands gig which has obviously been put together by different sources |
| e-man 26.02.2010 04:46 |
to get one thing straight; we are talking about a dvd, right? I have some snippets of film from cardiff 08, shot with a small digital camera, so it's probably no good for a dvd format... |
| people on streets 26.02.2010 06:25 |
yes a DVD. Therefore footage shot with camcorders (normal def. or even High def. ) would be the best source material. I know for a fact that most footage we're looking for is available in camcorder format. The succes of this project all depends on the fact wether the tapers (you know who you are) are willing to donate 1 or two songs of their footage. I wil offer Time To Shine. Who's next? |
| e-man 26.02.2010 07:12 |
fingers crossed, cause this can be an excellent compilation. what about some of the pro shot footage from south america? under pressure, las palabras de amor and voodoo are available in great quality (considering they are bootlegs) |
| people on streets 26.02.2010 10:50 |
Sure, why not? As long as the source material has good quality (bitrate wise and soundwise) I don't see no reason to exclude pro footage! |
| e-man 26.02.2010 11:04 |
the one from chile looks very good. south america not so good sadly |
| pittrek 26.02.2010 11:27 |
bigV wrote:e-man wrote: are some of the official dowloads regarded as "definitive" versions? I have them all (paid for) and I'll easily contribute them to this project unlesss it's considered official material. (grey zone, I admit) I have some The Who dvds from 2002 where they have taken audience video recordings and dubbed them with official audio bootlegs, and the end result is quite something.Here's an example of that: link This is overdubbed with an official download. But it's not grey area at all. It should not be done or if it is done it shouldn't be shared here. But YouTube videos are okay :-D V. Looks and sounds VERY good |
| MercuryArts 26.02.2010 12:07 |
This is a great idea. Im sorry I don't have anything to offer other than what was made available here. I would like to suggest including Brian & Roger singing HTF during the 05 European tour when PR was resting his voice on more songs than usual. The Munich (sp) gig is a great version. I love when Roger sings the bridge. It always gives me chills listening to him take lead on that part. |
| MercuryArts 26.02.2010 12:07 |
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| The Real Wizard 26.02.2010 12:34 |
MercuryArts wrote: This is a great idea. Im sorry I don't have anything to offer other than what was made available here. I would like to suggest including Brian & Roger singing HTF during the 05 European tour when PR was resting his voice on more songs than usual. In that case, another candidate should be a version of I Want It All with Brian singing. I think it was just at Brixton.. ? |
| e-man 26.02.2010 12:38 |
Sir GH wrote:MercuryArts wrote: This is a great idea. Im sorry I don't have anything to offer other than what was made available here. I would like to suggest including Brian & Roger singing HTF during the 05 European tour when PR was resting his voice on more songs than usual.In that case, another candidate should be a version of I Want It All with Brian singing. I think it was just at Brixton.. ? Birmingham as well. I was there...at the same night they debuted another one bites the dust and under pressure (the latter without paul) anyways; dunno what people have regarding picture material (for artwork, stills, etc) - but I have some decent shots from cardiff 08 |
| cmsdrums 26.02.2010 14:52 |
Alas I have no audo or video to offer, but I do have some pretty good still photos from close to the stage that I took at Brixton in 2005. Please feel free to contact me if and when needed |
| John S Stuart 26.02.2010 16:01 |
So what happens now? Can we have a divison of labour please? All volunteers can add their names to the categories below. (I have volunteered for panning and seeding) Contact via PM - or to 'producers' direct. Planners: Contributers: Producuction: Distribution: |
| pittrek 26.02.2010 16:14 |
Volunteer for production / distribution |
| YourValentine 26.02.2010 16:57 |
Contribution: complete Rome 2008 DVD as shared here on QZ. |
| A Word In Your Ear 26.02.2010 17:04 |
I didn't record any footage, but I did record all of the UK leg of the 2008 tour (except Glasgow) on lossless audio. so some of the footage thats out there with bad audio, could be overdubed with tracks from my audios. Sounds like a great project John. |
| GinjaNinja 26.02.2010 19:47 |
I could help with artwork (I'm slightly skilled in Photoshop) |
| people on streets 26.02.2010 22:13 |
YourValentine wrote: Contribution: complete Rome 2008 DVD as shared here on QZ. How about "the Stealer" from Zurich 2008? |
| YourValentine 27.02.2010 03:32 |
What about it, Dennis? |
| e-man 27.02.2010 07:01 |
I have no skills when it comes to dvd authoring or photoshop. (at least compared to what's available on this site). I can contribute photos for artwork / stills. If I may suggest; there are tracks which belong on a compilation like this for which there is bound to be an audio source but no video source. so for a bonus feature - what about the audio of these tracks while there's a photogallery on display? or perhaps settle for video recorded on mobiles/digital cameras when it comes to certain tracks? |
| john bodega 27.02.2010 07:33 |
Brian singing I Want It All, by hook or by crook! |
| people on streets 27.02.2010 08:26 |
YourValentine wrote: What about it, Dennis? Well, I thought it would be a nice addition to this project, Barbara. |
| mcmundy 27.02.2010 09:34 |
I'd be happy to contribute. Fairly extensive Video from the backs of the halls at Brixton, Paris, Hamburg, Birmingham and Wembley 2005 with appaulling sound (1.3 MP camera phone). Video footage from near the stage in Newcastle 05, and Rotterdam and Hyde Park in 05 and 08. Extensive v ideo from second O2 gig on 5mp camera phone with good sound. Probably some Berlin 08 knocking around on a hard drive somewhere too. Photo's from Tokyo 1 & 2, Yokohama 1 & 2, Nagoya, Fukuoka, Riga, Prague 08, Budapest 08 and Luxembourg (front row all shows except Fukuoka). |
| pittrek 28.02.2010 05:58 |
So ideas for a "Live Killers" - type compilation : Everything only from 2005 Track 13 intro (audio from Brixton, video - slideshow from various pictures before concerts - I think it would be a nice idea to see pictures of yourselves before the concert begins) Lose Yourself - Brixton Tie Your Mother Down - Brixton (audio from Mr.Scully's recording, video - a multi-camera mix (I'm working on one)) A Little Bit Of Love (Brixton ???) I Want To Break Free - ??? (I would use one of the early gigs where it was sung by the audience only) Fat Bottomed Girls - ??? Wishing Well - ??? Crazy Little Thing Called Love - ??? Seagull - Brixton Say It's Not True - Brixton ??? '39 - Brixton - multi-camera mix Love Of My Life - Prague ??? Tavaszi Szel - Budapest .. maybe we can start with finding out what's the best version of each song and then continue ? |
| e-man 28.02.2010 08:22 |
pittrek wrote: So ideas for a "Live Killers" - type compilation : Everything only from 2005 Track 13 intro (audio from Brixton, video - slideshow from various pictures before concerts - I think it would be a nice idea to see pictures of yourselves before the concert begins) Lose Yourself - Brixton Tie Your Mother Down - Brixton (audio from Mr.Scully's recording, video - a multi-camera mix (I'm working on one)) A Little Bit Of Love (Brixton ???) I Want To Break Free - ??? (I would use one of the early gigs where it was sung by the audience only) Fat Bottomed Girls - ??? Wishing Well - ??? Crazy Little Thing Called Love - ??? Seagull - Brixton Say It's Not True - Brixton ??? '39 - Brixton - multi-camera mix Love Of My Life - Prague ??? Tavaszi Szel - Budapest .. maybe we can start with finding out what's the best version of each song and then continue ? there's a great version of A little bit of love from Italy 05 - from a gig where roger does the bridge in hammer to fall. dunno whether this was one of the filmed gigs though. there's also a great clip from italy 05 when Brian does a snippet of Long Away (Pesaro) For Crazy little thing called love I would definitely suggest the US Meadowlands gig. multi cameras and very decent audio. same goes for Fat bottomed girls as well. also; these tracks went over really well with the american audience The Stockholm gig is pretty decent looking in terms of video quality - dunno whether anything on the night can be regarded as the definitive versions though....? Vienna 08 was a great gig, and even though the bootleg video is pretty good - it's sometimes very shaky |
| people on streets 28.02.2010 08:55 |
All Italian 05 gigs are filmed. |
| e-man 28.02.2010 10:05 |
are all in circulation? |
| people on streets 28.02.2010 16:50 |
e-man wrote: are all in circulation? Some footage circulates I believe. I have all concerts on video, but some are not for trade. |
| theCro 28.02.2010 19:12 |
people say i'm very good with photoshop so i'm open here and willing to do anything with photos, covers ect. i'm really into it and i want to contribute to this project. COUNT ON ME! |
| pittrek 07.03.2010 14:08 |
So, will we start ? Did somebody start already ? |
| john bodega 08.03.2010 22:47 |
theCro wrote: people say i'm very good with photoshop so i'm open here and willing to do anything with photos, covers ect. i'm really into it and i want to contribute to this project. COUNT ON ME!I think you should be in charge of writing the liner notes too! |
| deleted user 05.11.2010 13:57 |
pittrek wrote: So, will we start ? Did somebody start already ? Reply: I think it started and finished at the same time. |
| Jam Monkey 06.11.2010 12:58 |
It's such a shame these projects never seem to come off, but as usual when everybody takes responsibility no one takes responsibility. I think what is needed is one person to step up to take charge and coordinate everyone else’s efforts. |
| pittrek 07.11.2010 08:07 |
kurgan100 wrote:Yeah, sadly it looks like you're correct :-(pittrek wrote: So, will we start ? Did somebody start already ?Reply: I think it started and finished at the same time. |