cjhill 19.12.2009 18:48 |
Hi all, Im new to this board and also have only really been a serious Queen fan for a year or so. I came across the 'Wembley 86' concert on one of the sky music channels. I was just blown away by the whole thing and eventually bought the DVD Since then my ipod has become cluttered with queen songs, i love them all. Hammer To Fall and Tie your mother down have to be 2 of my favs. Just out of pure interest i bought the Q+PR live in Ukraine dvd not expecting it to be that good but man i was wrong! Brian and Roger still have what it takes to perform infront of an audience and if anything i thought they were perhaps better than in the wembley dvd, Rogers' drumming was nothing short of phenomenal. Although Paul Rodgers does a great job as lead singer, nobody will ever replace Freddie, nor should they every try! It seems now though since the split with PR that Brian is reluctant to tour whilst Roger still has the bug. They are both well....lets say...'getting on a bit' and that leaves me thinking that if they're ever going to tour again it'll have to be in the next 2-4 years (ruling out a 2010 tour). I know they dont need to to this for money or publicity but they proved over their last few tours that they can still bring in the crowds and if the demand is there, surely thats encouraging. Somehow i cant see it though, after the split with PR, would they even dare teaming up with anyone again? There was a mention about them doing a few shows with Freddie singing on big screen with Roger and Brian also sharing vocals, that would be better than nothing. My biggest regret is that i missed the 05,06,08 tours. I just wanna see Queen perform live, bet its an awesome experience |
TheRobin 19.12.2009 19:18 |
cjhill wrote: Hi all, Im new to this board and also have only really been a serious Queen fan for a year or so. I came across the 'Wembley 86' concert on one of the sky music channels. I was just blown away by the whole thing and eventually bought the DVD Since then my ipod has become cluttered with queen songs, i love them all. Hammer To Fall and Tie your mother down have to be 2 of my favs. Just out of pure interest i bought the Q+PR live in Ukraine dvd not expecting it to be that good but man i was wrong! Brian and Roger still have what it takes to perform infront of an audience and if anything i thought they were perhaps better than in the wembley dvd, Rogers' drumming was nothing short of phenomenal. Although Paul Rodgers does a great job as lead singer, nobody will ever replace Freddie, nor should they every try! It seems now though since the split with PR that Brian is reluctant to tour whilst Roger still has the bug. They are both well....lets say...'getting on a bit' and that leaves me thinking that if they're ever going to tour again it'll have to be in the next 2-4 years (ruling out a 2010 tour). I know they dont need to to this for money or publicity but they proved over their last few tours that they can still bring in the crowds and if the demand is there, surely thats encouraging. Somehow i cant see it though, after the split with PR, would they even dare teaming up with anyone again? There was a mention about them doing a few shows with Freddie singing on big screen with Roger and Brian also sharing vocals, that would be better than nothing. My biggest regret is that i missed the 05,06,08 tours. I just wanna see Queen perform live, bet its an awesome experience Oh, don't get me started, I feel the exact same way! I really do wish I had been a fan much earlier, because I could have attended the concerts with Paul Rodgers. I have the Ukraine DVD as well and I too was completely blown away! Sadly I wasn't even born, much less thought about, when Queen, with Freddie, did the last concert at Knebworth in 1986. I REALLY do hope that they tour again! I'm going crazy at the prospect of seeing Queen live in person! Having Freddie on the big screen singing the alphabet is enough to satisfy me. I'd love to hear Brian May and Roger Taylor singing their songs as well. I just wonder if they are going to get another singer or are they going to do it on their own. Whatever they choose to do I'm going to the show regardless. I don't even care what country it's in, I'm going! My biggest hope for a concert is hearing Brian perform '39, I will be singing my ass off! |
queenfanbg 20.12.2009 02:13 |
"Will Queen ever tour again???" Actually , last time was 1986 and i believe they wont tour again. |
mike hunt 20.12.2009 03:32 |
yes, 86 was the last queen show, but I hope brian and roger tour with a guest singer. Under a different name of course. Put the Queen name to rest. Go on as "the brian may and roger talyor band" with guest singer?.....hopefully not paul rodgers!....the singer from extreme or that soto guy. |
Back2TheLight 20.12.2009 04:57 |
I saw them in San Diego in '06, and hands down was the best show I ever saw. We can only hope...but no guarantees... |
dragon-fly 20.12.2009 10:07 |
Queen will never tour again. May & Taylor & X ? My crystal ball is tarnish right now... |
Major Tom 20.12.2009 18:03 |
Queen + Chris Cornell(fingers crossed) Queen + DAVID BOWIE!(Where is the old bastard?) Queen + Robert Plant(not gonna happen though it'd be fucking sweet) Queen + Tim Staffell(Smile, anyone?) And yes, even though I wish the same as you all do, that they lay the Queen name to rest, it's not gonna happen. |
redspecialusa 20.12.2009 19:38 |
I never thought about Chris Cornell (seriously) but I do know from hearing a Soundgarden track that Brian guested on that those two things go very well together (the voice & guitar). I think a Smile reunion would be really cool...no Queen fan in their right mind would slam that. Bowie & Plant just don't have it anymore...I've even less cared for Plant's voice...I like his group called 'The Strange Sensation?' that he's been doing stuff with though. I saw 'em live in Washington in '06. Best concert I've ever been to...and I've seen a majority of the BIG veteran classic rock acts that are still touring. I agree w/ 'cjhill' & 'TheRobin.' It would be a travesty for them to stop playing music. |
john bodega 21.12.2009 03:06 |
I hope so but I hope not. I want to see them, but I know that they'll only choose a disappointing format (backup singers, predictable set, another irritating guest vocalist) so if that's the case then I'd rather they didn't. I'd sell my liver to be able to see Brian and Roger live, doing what they're good at, but if the proviso is that I have to put up with an irrelevant lead vocalist who can't even read the words from an auto-cue, then I'll stick to watching them on Youtube. |
mike hunt 21.12.2009 03:29 |
lol, paul rodgers is a great vocalist, but he's not good for brian and roger. I don't think it worked. I even remember david lee roth said that when he had his show here in ny. That paul didn't fit with queen. |
Togg 21.12.2009 05:47 |
Will they tour I would say baring an unforseen situation it is pretty much set in stone that thye will go out again at somepoint before bowing out completely, will it be a full tour...? I doubt it, but maybe, I would imagine a few warm up gigs in th UK and maybe something around Europe if it goes well...then who knows? But my guess is something 2011 but nothing before except the odd pop up appearance Hopw you get to see them, they are still awsome |
Major Tom 21.12.2009 06:35 |
redspecialusa wrote: I never thought about Chris Cornell (seriously) but I do know from hearing a Soundgarden track that Brian guested on that those two things go very well together (the voice & guitar). I think a Smile reunion would be really cool...no Queen fan in their right mind would slam that. Bowie & Plant just don't have it anymore...I've even less cared for Plant's voice...I like his group called 'The Strange Sensation?' that he's been doing stuff with though. I saw 'em live in Washington in '06. Best concert I've ever been to...and I've seen a majority of the BIG veteran classic rock acts that are still touring. I agree w/ 'cjhill' & 'TheRobin.' It would be a travesty for them to stop playing music. I have no idea wheter David's still got it, and neither should you. Unless you know him. No offence dude but have you seen the Realitytour DVD? If he got it five years ago aswell as forty years ago, I'm pretty sure he still got it. The only problem is to find the stone he's hiding under :) Zebonka12 wrote: I hope so but I hope not. I want to see them, but I know that they'll only choose a disappointing format (backup singers, predictable set, another irritating guest vocalist) so if that's the case then I'd rather they didn't. I'd sell my liver to be able to see Brian and Roger live, doing what they're good at, but if the proviso is that I have to put up with an irrelevant lead vocalist who can't even read the words from an auto-cue, then I'll stick to watching them on Youtube. I hear you. Two words: One Vision. |
redspecialusa 21.12.2009 12:38 |
Major Tom wrote:redspecialusa wrote: I never thought about Chris Cornell (seriously) but I do know from hearing a Soundgarden track that Brian guested on that those two things go very well together (the voice & guitar). I think a Smile reunion would be really cool...no Queen fan in their right mind would slam that. Bowie & Plant just don't have it anymore...I've even less cared for Plant's voice...I like his group called 'The Strange Sensation?' that he's been doing stuff with though. I saw 'em live in Washington in '06. Best concert I've ever been to...and I've seen a majority of the BIG veteran classic rock acts that are still touring. I agree w/ 'cjhill' & 'TheRobin.' It would be a travesty for them to stop playing music.I have no idea wheter David's still got it, and neither should you. Unless you know him. No offence dude but have you seen the Realitytour DVD? If he got it five years ago aswell as forty years ago, I'm pretty sure he still got it. The only problem is to find the stone he's hiding under :) You do realize that for Zeppelin's reunion gig at the O2, they had to lower the key of most of the material they played? When he performed w/ Queen at the Freddie tribute concert, (as of 1992) he still had it (the vocal range)...& made Paul Rodgers looked like he near perfect memory of the lyrics to Queen's material. I haven't seen the Realitytour DVD, I will definitely check it out. Peace, man. |
Major Tom 21.12.2009 14:09 |
I was talking about Bowie but hey, they're both in their 60s right? I do realise that they lowered the songs for the O2 gig and I have no doubt whatsoever that Freddie would have to do the same, had he been still with us and touring. I think, talking Led Zep now, they all did a exelent job that night, and I'm sure the'd fill stadiums around the world, had they toured it. By "got it" I ment they still have the stamina, will and phyche to do it. Not being able to sing the songs they recorded back in the 70's in their "right" key, is less important, IMO. |
PauloPanucci 21.12.2009 14:45 |
roger said 2010... so.... i'll wait |
philip storey 21.12.2009 15:25 |
I don't know what everybody is getting their knickers in a twist over ! Yes Roger & Brian will tour again in some form or other ,its what they do !! No i don't think its a good idea to have Freddie singing on a big screen.I would like a live show with live vocals.Hire a good vocalist there are lots of singers who would jump at the chance to work with Brian and Roger.When the shows happen, just enjoy them for what they are and don't come online wetting your pants cos it ain't as good as Freddie !! Cheers to all our readers have a Very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year and now i really must go and take a peake at my mervyns !!!!!!!!!!!! |
coops 21.12.2009 18:50 |
I feel for some of you young guys. I was fortunate to have seen them in 1976, several times in the 80's and twice with PR. Enjoyed every damm one of them, particularly the last show in Jax Florida coz we were front row at the end of the T and PR winked at my wife. Perhaps he was winking at me? Naw. |
john bodega 21.12.2009 23:07 |
redspecialusa wrote: You do realize that for Zeppelin's reunion gig at the O2, they had to lower the key of most of the material they played?I personally do not think they 'had' to. There were points during the set at which Plant hit the notes that would have been required of him had the whole set been in the original keys. I'm assuming that changing the keys was a sort of insurance policy, as maybe he felt he wouldn't make the whole show, and fair enough. But each song taken by itself is still within his reach - whether he's aware of that or not. Singing is as much a mental thing as a physical one though, of course. |
pittrek 22.12.2009 06:47 |
coops wrote: I feel for some of you young guys. I was fortunate to have seen them in 1976, several times in the 80's and twice with PR. Enjoyed every damm one of them, particularly the last show in Jax Florida coz we were front row at the end of the T and PR winked at my wife. Perhaps he was winking at me? Naw. You're very lucky. I was born 1 year before their Milton Keynes gig and I "almost" got to their Budapest gig, unfortunately my parents thought it's not a good idea to let a 5 years old to a rock concert ;) |
Vali 22.12.2009 07:05 |
pittrek wrote:coops wrote: I feel for some of you young guys. I was fortunate to have seen them in 1976, several times in the 80's and twice with PR. Enjoyed every damm one of them, particularly the last show in Jax Florida coz we were front row at the end of the T and PR winked at my wife. Perhaps he was winking at me? Naw.You're very lucky. I was born 1 year before their Milton Keynes gig and I "almost" got to their Budapest gig, unfortunately my parents thought it's not a good idea to let a 5 years old to a rock concert ;) hehe, same happened to me with their Barcelona '86 gig; I was dying for attending that show, but I was only 10 years old and my parents also thought it was no good idea :( btw Peter, I've been on holidays; I'll start working on your last request soon :) |
redspecialusa 22.12.2009 18:18 |
Major Tom wrote: I was talking about Bowie but hey, they're both in their 60s right? I do realise that they lowered the songs for the O2 gig and I have no doubt whatsoever that Freddie would have to do the same, had he been still with us and touring. I think, talking Led Zep now, they all did a exelent job that night, and I'm sure the'd fill stadiums around the world, had they toured it. By "got it" I ment they still have the stamina, will and phyche to do it. Not being able to sing the songs they recorded back in the 70's in their "right" key, is less important, IMO. Well, if you put it that way. Then I absolutely agree w/ you. |
redspecialusa 22.12.2009 18:21 |
You made a good point as well earlier, Zebonka. |
Sheer Brass Neck 22.12.2009 23:35 |
Major Tom wrote: Not being able to sing the songs they recorded back in the 70's in their "right" key, is less important, IMO. Interesting, IMO, it's crucial to enjoying a show. There are loads of comments on this site about Seal, George Michael, et al from the tribute singing in a key below Freddie's because they couldn't do it in the original key. I personally disliked IWTBF dropped a key on the last tour. I like to hear things the way they were recorded. Apart from WWTLF, Queen played every song in the original key live. IF they don't, it's because their physical capabilities have diminished (same with slowing songs down due to fitness of playing at a faster pace.) I don't want to see David Beckham play soccer at 60 years old when he's walking around the pitch due to age, I don't want to hear groups dropping keys or slowing down because they can't physically do what they once did. Detracts from my enjoyment, but that's entirely my feelings, others may not or probably don't give a shit. |
john bodega 23.12.2009 01:37 |
It's 50/50 for me. I always feel a twinge at the start of a song which has been dropped in key. It really is admitting defeat; whereas you have a live performance like this one, and even though he mightn't have the voice for the song, he still gave it a bloody good go. I personally will always consider effort as being of equal importance to the end result. When you have ambition as a performer, and take risks, then it stands to reason that not everything you do will be perfect, but on the nights where it DOES work, you have solid gold. That's how The Who treated it, and that's the kind of live act I will always respect the most, no matter how off their off nights are. |
beautifulsoup 24.12.2009 14:17 |
Speaking from a classical and opera singer's point of view, I have to say that in the genre I sing, it's perfectly acceptable (and preferred) that one sings in a key that is the best/most comfortable/makes the voice sound "prettiest;" it depends on the singer. More true in Art Songs than oratorio or opera. Although, there are opera arias that are traditionally taken down a half step from the keys in which they were originally written. Or roles that, if sopranos sing instead of mezzo-sopranos, the keys of arias may be taken up. Wow, I'm sounding boring. And off topic, sorta. Anyway, my point is, key changes are acceptable in that genre; I don't blink an eyelash at it. Maybe it's less acceptable in rock and pop? Although, it would be good to stay at least pretty close to the original key; say, a minor third at the most. After that, it might just sound too weird. As to the topic question, I have my doubts that they'll ever tour again - but I hope they prove me wrong, |