QueenZone discussion #1210659

*goodco* wrote: per mike hunt:  "overhyped"......what does one expect? For charisesake, the man is a billionaire?  With endorsements, youth golf foundations, charity foundations receiving millions of dollars if his name is attached, and one says 'overhyped'?  OY I hoped like heck that he simply had a couple of drinks, still suffered from jet lag for being in China and Australia the past couple of weeks, and messed up. Not this.  Loved Jasper Parnevik's response (he introduced Woods and his wife). "Next time, I hope she takes a driver at him instead of a 5 iron." Perfect, and priceless. Thank you, Sir GH, for a very fitting and thoughtful response.

mike hunt wrote: maybe the media should worry about terrorists hitting america again.

I get sick when I see these vultures picking on the lives of other people.

YourValentine wrote: In Europe we have other topics that are similarly blown out of proportions - the current German hype topic is the swine flu where an unprecedented attempt to frighten the public just failed. Although there was special coverage in virtually every news show on TV only 5% of the population fell for it and got a swine flu shot.

Sir GH wrote:

YourValentine wrote: In Europe we have other topics that are similarly blown out of proportions - the current German hype topic is the swine flu where an unprecedented attempt to frighten the public just failed. Although there was special coverage in virtually every news show on TV only 5% of the population fell for it and got a swine flu shot.

People are most obedient when they're afraid.  They've known that for ages and ages. But only 5% !??  Good job, Germany!  I think about 30% of Canadians fell for it, but I'd like to think it was mostly kids and seniors who got it, since they are the higher risk groups.  Otherwise, we have immune systems that work just fine. The regular flu kills 10x more people than H1N1.  The WHO even had to change the definition of "pandemic" to suit their agenda this time, removing the terms "enormous illness and death" from their criteria.  Even they realized that the 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people (and infected 1 in 4 people) was a real pandemic compared to this farce.

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote:

  Sir GH wrote:  

      YourValentine wrote:   In Europe we have other topics that are similarly blown out of proportions - the current German hype topic is the swine flu where an unprecedented attempt to frighten the public just failed. Although there was special coverage in virtually every news show on TV only 5% of the population fell for it and got a swine flu shot.  

People are most obedient when they're afraid.  They've known that for ages and ages. But only 5% !??  Good job, Germany!  I think about 30% of Canadians fell for it, but I'd like to think it was mostly kids and seniors who got it, since they are the higher risk groups.  Otherwise, we have immune systems that work just fine. The regular flu kills 10x more people than H1N1.  The WHO even had to change the definition of "pandemic" to suit their agenda this time, removing the terms "enormous illness and death" from their criteria.  Even they realized that the 1918 Spanish flu that killed 50 million people (and infected 1 in 4 people) was a real pandemic compared to this farce.

      Nope, I have to disagree, people are more obedient when they're educated. Anything I've learned from the media about H1N1 is that it might become a pandemic. Why wouldn't most want to protect and prepare themselves for it in case it did? How does the media benefit from putting fear into the general public about this virus? I think they're obligated to their job and report any news because of  public interest.

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote: Nope, I have to disagree, people are more obedient when they're educated.

Anything I've learned from the media about H1N1 is that it might become a pandemic.  Why wouldn't most want to protect and prepare themselves for it in case it did?

How does the media benefit from putting fear into the general public about this virus?

I think they're obligated to their job and report any news because of  public interest.

Sir GH wrote:

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote: Nope, I have to disagree, people are more obedient when they're educated.

How does that make any sense?  If people are educated they think for themselves and they're less inclined to blindly believe the media or authority figure X when they say something.  They knew this ages ago, which is why people lived under the theocratic rule of the catholic church for over a thousand years until science came along.

Anything I've learned from the media about H1N1 is that it might become a pandemic.  Why wouldn't most want to protect and prepare themselves for it in case it did?

With a vaccine that has not been properly tested?  Vaccines generally come out after years of being developed, not 6 months after the virus is discovered.  Numerous doctors have come out and said the vaccine is poison.  Most health officials have not received the shot.  It's just like politicians saying "let's send our kids to war, but not mine," which is exactly what happens. A few hundred deaths is not a pandemic.  Full stop.  A pandemic (until this June, when the WHO changed the definition) is a virus that affects millions of people worldwide.  When you see football games being canceled because the offensive and defensive lines have H1N1, then it's a pandemic.  That's what happened in 1918 - there was no Stanley Cup awarded because half of the league had the flu.

How does the media benefit from putting fear into the general public about this virus?

The media is just the outlet.  It's the politicians and the people above the politicians who benefit.  The more that people are kept afraid about marginal and overblown issues, the less inclined we are to focus on real issues. That, and the pharmaceutical companies are making money through the wazoo.  Gilead Sciences is the company that licenses the vaccine.  Donald Rumsfeld is ex-chair of Gilead, and now a major stockholder.  This company and its shareholders have made millions off this, if not billions.

I think they're obligated to their job and report any news because of  public interest.

And that's the very problem - the media are the very ones who are telling the public what to be interested in.  They let you know what they think you should know. So yes, let's keep talking about Tiger Woods.  This is ever so important.

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote: You may be lucky and get a mild version of the this flu, but how would you feel if you infected a family member, child or friend if they were to become severely ill? I would think doing nothing is more risky even if the chances are low.

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote: Where do you get your information?

This is not a new virus. Its been around for over 30 years.

First fact of H1N1 is that it does kill, and secondly what few people don't know is that flu itself is far more likely to cause Guillain-Barré syndrome than any flu vaccine. Just ask your physician.

You may be lucky and get a mild version of the this flu, but how would you feel if you infected a family member, child or friend if they were to become severely ill? I would think doing nothing is more risky even if the chances are low.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote: This is personal for me since my mom is now enduring chemo treatments and is in an extremely vulnerable state. H1N1 could kill her. I have never gotten a flu shot, nor have I ever had the flu - that I'm aware of.This year, to protect her from me, I have received both the regular flu shot and the H1N1 shot.

The current H1N1 shot is, btw, missing the deadly ingredient (mercury?) that the original 1970's H1N1 vaccine had so there is really no reason NOT to get it.

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote: No matter how you debate this topic Sir GH, that's your choice and your opinion.

I myself am protected and feel good to know that although I may have a strong immunity system, it gives me peace of mind to know that I will be protected and I will NOT be passing on this deadly virus to those that are weaker than myself .

Sir GH wrote:

«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» wrote: No matter how you debate this topic Sir GH, that's your choice and your opinion.

What in my last post was based on opinion and is debatable?  All I did was provide facts and sources, like you asked.

I myself am protected and feel good to know that although I may have a strong immunity system, it gives me peace of mind to know that I will be protected and I will NOT be passing on this deadly virus to those that are weaker than myself .

I'm glad you have peace of mind then.  But what has made you certain that the vaccination was safe and properly tested? Interesting link there, YV.  If it is indeed accurate, the number of H1N1 cases in the US is about the same as their annual new HIV infections.  Food for thought... ? link According to this link, 2 million people died from AIDS last year, compared to 45,000 people dying from H1N1.  People, where is our focus !??