| Lisser 14.10.2009 13:13 |
Is anyone going to see this movie? I bought my tickets the day they came out. I'm excited to see it but I know it will be sad. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 14.10.2009 15:31 |
I haven't got tickets yet, but I will soon. |
| john bodega 15.10.2009 14:43 |
I hope there's plenty of scenes with that guitarist woman. |
| i-Fred 15.10.2009 18:50 |
this is it will probably be a rip of, copy of some other movie that was out ages.... maybe the matrix... |
| Mr.Jingles 15.10.2009 21:21 |
Part of me is extremely curious to see this, and the other part of me finds that it would be wrong to fill in the pockets of AEG executives even more, after they pushed Michael Jackson to play 50 dates when he wasn't physically capable to do so, and only took advantage of his humongous debt. Now they are trying to capitalize on the gigantic global interest on MJ after his death, and they will do anything to squeeze every single penny from his fans. Don't get me wrong, I will admit that Michael Jackson was possibly the one who was the most to blame for getting himself into so much debt and the whole drug addicting mess that ended his life. However, I also believe that a lot of people exploited him when he was put in a weak position, and that's just wrong. |
| john bodega 16.10.2009 00:22 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Now they are trying to capitalize on the gigantic global interest on MJ after his death, and they will do anything to squeeze every single penny from his fans .That extends to releasing a rather ho-hum single that isn't even new material. And hyping it to the best of their ability. And forgetting to cut Paul Anka in on royalties until he complained... I found the funeral embarrassing enough (with the exception of Jermaine's performance of "Smile"). I honestly wouldn't have been surprised if they'd strung him up to fulfill the 50 date thing. Having said that, I hope they did a decent job of his movie. It entirely depends on what angle they're going on I guess. |
| inu-liger 16.10.2009 03:04 |
I already bought tickets for myself and my girlfriend to go see it after work on the 28th. Can't hardly wait! Mind you, I'm pretty peeved t the same time that they pulled a Queen Productions when it came to the movie's CD "companion"........*cough* regurgitated GH *cough* |
| Lisser 16.10.2009 10:46 |
I'm excited to see the movie but I know it will be sad to see if not for anything other than how thin he is. I know there is hype about filling the pockets of AEG execs. With any production of a star there is a snake somewhere that will be profiting off of it. Michael Jackson's life is a sad situation no matter how you look at it and no matter which part of his life you examine, the whole thing is sad. I just know that I love his music and I love to watch him perform and I'm going to at least experience this movie. If I don't like it, I won't watch it again or buy a DVD if it comes out. I agree that he probably did not want to do 50 shows, infact he probably didn't even want to do 10. If you look back and watch the program he did years ago, I think it was called, "Living with Michael Jackson" where he shows old home movies and stuff..he says he hates to tour. He says he goes through "hell" when he tours and the only reason he does it is so he can be close to the fans. There are a group of fans that claim they were close to him during the last few weeks of his life, gathering outside of the rehearsals, etc. They claim he talked to them and brought them inside to watch and they all say how frail and thin he was. They also say he did not want to do 50 shows at all and he said it was "killing him." They even have a website called "This is not it." I read their testimonies but you just don't know what you can and can't believe. I choose to just listen to the music and watch him perform. It's all you can do as a fan....I don't judge. |
| inu-liger 17.10.2009 02:39 |
I thought that This Is Not It video on YouTube was twistedly funny in a way, until I saw that there sadly was an actual site based on that... |
| ParisNair 17.10.2009 06:39 |
I don't think I'll be able to watch, or rather suffer through this movie. It will be just too much for me emotionally. When he died I was extremely shocked. I spent weeks listening to only to his music and watching his videos, and everyone, even at work noticed how saddened i was. I just don't want to go back into that mode. And this move would probably be a sympathetic look at this life and his last days, aiming exactly at bringing out those very emotions out of the fans. Do yo feel they'll hve the guts to show his finak days of rehearsal in all honesty? According to many, he was too frail and not in perfect health, etc, and if he didn't like touring anyways, wouldn't it end up showing the producers in bad light? |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 06:57 |
ParisNair wrote: Do yo feel they'll hve the guts to show his finak days of rehearsal in all honesty? According to many, he was too frail and not in perfect health, etc, and if he didn't like touring anyways, wouldn't it end up showing the producers in bad light?Put it this way; were Freddie's final years shown in full honesty (at the time)? |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 17.10.2009 07:27 |
Lisser wrote: I choose to just listen to the music and watch him perform. It's all you can do as a fan....I don't judge. |
| ParisNair 17.10.2009 07:44 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Put it this way; were Freddie's final years shown in full honesty (at the time)? You think its the same situation? Our Freddie brought his untimely death upon himself (by being careless or reckless, whatever), and if his final years were not shown in full honesty, it was to preserve his own privacy, and on his own standing instructions. In case of poor Micheal, his untimely death was brought upon him by others as much as, if not more, by himself. If his final days are not shown in full honesty, it would be to avaoid showing how the organisers of the london concerts were squeezing life out of him. The guy was physically unwell, possibly mentally not in the right frame of mind either. And they still went ahead and took advantage of his financial crisis to make filthy money for themselves. |
| john bodega 17.10.2009 08:27 |
I don't think the situation is the same, exactly, but the result was the same - we didn't hear what was really going on with Freddie until a while later. "This Is It" wouldn't have the remotest chance of being screened if it were to show things as they really were/are. (ie. half dead man dragged off to do 50 dates that he would've pulled out of anyway). To me it's no less embarrassing than Elvis' last few years anyway .. if I were going to an Elvis show I'd want it to be him and five other players - tops. A really kicking rhythm section and that's about it. Dancers?? Backup singers?? You can keep all of that shit. I didn't find the first glimpses of MJ's rehearsal video to be all that compelling because (in that clip where they're rehearsing "They Don't Care About Us") he was only doing a halfbaked job of dancing (rightly so, it was just rehearsal) and he was miming the vocal (it's the studio vocal to a new backing - they were probably only using that while planning stuff out but still ... not very interesting viewing). I hope, in this movie, that there's some rehearsal stuff where he's actually singing. One thing he always had was a damned fine voice. |
| YourValentine 18.10.2009 06:13 |
ParisNair wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: Put it this way; were Freddie's final years shown in full honesty (at the time)?You think its the same situation? Our Freddie brought his untimely death upon himself (by being careless or reckless, whatever), and if his final years were not shown in full honesty, it was to preserve his own privacy, and on his own standing instructions. In case of poor Micheal, his untimely death was brought upon him by others as much as, if not more, by himself. If his final days are not shown in full honesty, it would be to avaoid showing how the organisers of the london concerts were squeezing life out of him. The guy was physically unwell, possibly mentally not in the right frame of mind either. And they still went ahead and took advantage of his financial crisis to make filthy money for themselves. A lot of judgement in this post.... How can you say that Freddie brought his death on himself at a time when nobody knew about AIDS and the worst thing you could get by unprotected sex was syphilis which was easily treatable. We do not know how he would have behaved if he had known about AIDS in the late 70s/early 80s but it's easy to put a verdict 20 years later. It was not the fault of the organizers of the London shows that Michael Jackson was bankrupt. It's their job to organize concerts and to make money from them. Also, Michael Jackson did not die from facing 50 London concerts, he died from an overdose of narcotics which should not have been given to him at home. Certainly MJ was surrounded by lots of people who wanted to take advantage of him but his death was the result of a many unfortunate events and you really cannot lay the blame on concert promoters. Back to topic: if I were a fan of MJ I would definitely go and see the movie and I would not care who makes money out of it. Since I am not a fan I am not interested to see the movie and that is all there is to it. Let his fans enjoy the movie, they did not have many opportunities to see MJ in the last years, anyway. |
| john bodega 18.10.2009 06:14 |
Maybe you've met more promoters than I have, but I personally wouldn't place more faith in them than I had to ... I guess that's down to personal experience though! |
| YourValentine 18.10.2009 07:02 |
They are businessmen, right? Not the mafia. They cannot possibly force an artist to do concerts if he does not want to (or needs to due to money problems). The only concert promoter I ever met in person was a music fanatic who simply loved the bands he promoted but he was an old guy from the 70s/80s, so no - I have no personal experience with promoters. All I am saying is that there are no such simple cause-and-effect descriptions of peoples' lives. Many events were responsible for the early death of MJ and you cannot just pick one of them. |
| john bodega 18.10.2009 07:21 |
YourValentine wrote: They are businessmen, right? Not the mafia.Ask a mafioso what he is and he'll probably say 'businessman'. Heh. |
| ParisNair 19.10.2009 17:22 |
YourValentine wrote: A lot of judgement in this post.... How can you say that Freddie brought his death on himself at a time when nobody knew about AIDS and the worst thing you could get by unprotected sex was syphilis which was easily treatable. We do not know how he would have behaved if he had known about AIDS in the late 70s/early 80s but it's easy to put a verdict 20 years later.My apologies if my comments sound offensive or disrespectful. I love our Freddie as much as anyone else on this forum. I became a fan of Queen after Freddie died, infact I did not know Queen existed in 1991. In a way I'm thankful for that becuase I'm a very emotional person and if Michael Jackson's death shook me and go numb for a few days, our Freddie's death would have made me go into deep depression. Probably you are right in saying that my post is judgemental, but I saw it as fact. I'm sure I have read somewhere that in the mid-80s when AIDS was becoming "popular" as a deathly disease inflicting the gay people Freddie made the comment "I'm f*ing everyone and anyone" in the context that he was not taking any extra precautions or safety measures to avoid getting infected. And also, that often he would have a panic attack in the bathroom after a session and then scrub himslef vigorously, as if he could wash away the virus if it was in him. I'm 100% sure I read these things through some credible source, and I'd say he did not particularly try not to catch the virus. Anyway, if anyone is responsible for our Freddie's early departure from earth, its God and Freddie himself. |
| ParisNair 19.10.2009 17:51 |
YourValentine wrote: It was not the fault of the organizers of the London shows that Michael Jackson was bankrupt. It's their job to organize concerts and to make money from them. Also, Michael Jackson did not die from facing 50 London concerts, he died from an overdose of narcotics which should not have been given to him at home. Certainly MJ was surrounded by lots of people who wanted to take advantage of him but his death was the result of a many unfortunate events and you really cannot lay the blame on concert promoters. Back to topic: if I were a fan of MJ I would definitely go and see the movie and I would not care who makes money out of it. Since I am not a fan I am not interested to see the movie and that is all there is to it. Let his fans enjoy the movie, they did not have many opportunities to see MJ in the last years, anyway.Michael might have died from a drug overdose, but that's like saying a man stabbed in the heart dies of cardiac-arrest. My point was that for sure the mpvie wil have to show that Micheal was very enthusiastic about the concerts and could not wait to get on the stage in London. Probably they'd have some interviews to prove it too. However, the reality may be somehting different, and the makers of this movie cannot afford to show this. |
| mike hunt 20.10.2009 04:24 |
Mr.Jingles wrote: Part of me is extremely curious to see this, and the other part of me finds that it would be wrong to fill in the pockets of AEG executives even more, after they pushed Michael Jackson to play 50 dates when he wasn't physically capable to do so, and only took advantage of his humongous debt. Now they are trying to capitalize on the gigantic global interest on MJ after his death, and they will do anything to squeeze every single penny from his fans. Don't get me wrong, I will admit that Michael Jackson was possibly the one who was the most to blame for getting himself into so much debt and the whole drug addicting mess that ended his life. However, I also believe that a lot of people exploited him when he was put in a weak position, and that's just wrong. It's his own fault for letting those leaches into his life!....michael and mike tyson share the same type of stories. Tyson admits he's the one too blame because he let in those leaches who sucked everything out of him. Also, let's not make michael out to be a saint. He loved spending money, and in the end it bit him in the fanny........ What did freddie say?...."all my mistakes are on me" pretty much sums it up. |
| john bodega 20.10.2009 08:08 |
Right on. I think MJ had the odds against him when you look at his formative years but ultimately one's life is their own business and if they don't fix it themselves, you can't blame anyone else. Though you can certainly call the hangers-on and yes-men on the bullshit that they do... |
| Mr.Jingles 20.10.2009 08:55 |
Lisser wrote: There are a group of fans that claim they were close to him during the last few weeks of his life, gathering outside of the rehearsals, etc. They claim he talked to them and brought them inside to watch and they all say how frail and thin he was. They also say he did not want to do 50 shows at all and he said it was "killing him." They even have a website called "This is not it." I read their testimonies but you just don't know what you can and can't believe. I choose to just listen to the music and watch him perform. It's all you can do as a fan....I don't judge. Given that Michael was such a reclusive individual, I find it hard to believe that anyone would be allowed to come in during rehearsals. Unless of course they are fans who knew him on a personal level way before. |
| Mr.Jingles 20.10.2009 09:02 |
YourValentine wrote: They are businessmen, right? Not the mafia. Many times businessmen operate like the mafia. I mean, look at AIG! I'm don't want to stereotype by saying that all heads of corporations and business managers are greedy, corrupt, and sleazy, but the truth is that many of them want to profit at the sole expense of their own benefit, and they are willing to exploit anyone to get their way. I mean, look at the history of artists who have been robbed by their management, and that includes Queen's experience with Trident. The reason why artists fall into the trap is because they know nothing about business. |
| YourValentine 20.10.2009 10:13 |
ParisNair wrote:YourValentine wrote: A lot of judgement in this post.... How can you say that Freddie brought his death on himself at a time when nobody knew about AIDS and the worst thing you could get by unprotected sex was syphilis which was easily treatable. We do not know how he would have behaved if he had known about AIDS in the late 70s/early 80s but it's easy to put a verdict 20 years later.My apologies if my comments sound offensive or disrespectful. I love our Freddie as much as anyone else on this forum. I became a fan of Queen after Freddie died, infact I did not know Queen existed in 1991. In a way I'm thankful for that becuase I'm a very emotional person and if Michael Jackson's death shook me and go numb for a few days, our Freddie's death would have made me go into deep depression. Probably you are right in saying that my post is judgemental, but I saw it as fact. I'm sure I have read somewhere that in the mid-80s when AIDS was becoming "popular" as a deathly disease inflicting the gay people Freddie made the comment "I'm f*ing everyone and anyone" in the context that he was not taking any extra precautions or safety measures to avoid getting infected. And also, that often he would have a panic attack in the bathroom after a session and then scrub himslef vigorously, as if he could wash away the virus if it was in him. I'm 100% sure I read these things through some credible source, and I'd say he did not particularly try not to catch the virus. Anyway, if anyone is responsible for our Freddie's early departure from earth, its God and Freddie himself. First of all there is no need to apologise for voicing your opinion. It's funny how you suggest that the drug overdose was not the immediate cause of MJ's death ( I agree that many other events added up leading to Michael's death) but you are so sure about Freddie being responsible for his illness and consecutive death. It's obvious that Freddie had probably not contracted HIV had he not been gay. The fact that he had numerous sexual contacts increased the danger to get the virus. However, it was not his fault that he caught the virus at a time when the general public was totally unaware of the dangers of unprotected sex. Let's not forget that AIDS is a viral infection with a retro virus that takes up to ten years to develop the first symptoms. At the time when the first tests were available (1985) sexually active gay men were either unlucky or lucky, i.e. infected (Freddie) or not infected (Elton John). I have witnessed people die of AIDS and they did not have the choice. They caught a vicious virus at a time when nobody was aware of it and they were not irresponsible, reckless people - they were just unluckily living between the time when AIDS had not yet spread and the time when the public was well informed and able to protect themselves. Now a lot has been said about Freddie's sexual activities post 1985 when he could have known that he was probably a danger for other people. There has been a lot of finger pointing about who gave the virus to whom - mainly by people who have no business whatsoever except for being curious about the scandal in the life of a celebrity. Most likely there was careless behaviour between Freddie and his post 1985 lovers but they were all adults and it was their own business and IMO not for us or anyone else to pass judgment on them after over 20 years. It is well possible that they closed their eyes and did not face the unspeakable until they really had to. |
| YourValentine 20.10.2009 10:21 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:YourValentine wrote: They are businessmen, right? Not the mafia.Many times businessmen operate like the mafia. I mean, look at AIG! I'm don't want to stereotype by saying that all heads of corporations and business managers are greedy, corrupt, and sleazy, but the truth is that many of them want to profit at the sole expense of their own benefit, and they are willing to exploit anyone to get their way. I mean, look at the history of artists who have been robbed by their management, and that includes Queen's experience with Trident. The reason why artists fall into the trap is because they know nothing about business. I agree with your general opinion about the music business. I just think that the concert promoters surely tried to make a lot of money with the MJ concerts and had little sympathy for the artist but they definitely did not kill him. |
| ParisNair 20.10.2009 16:58 |
YourValentine wrote: First of all there is no need to apologise for voicing your opinion. It's funny how you suggest that the drug overdose was not the immediate cause of MJ's death ( I agree that many other events added up leading to Michael's death) but you are so sure about Freddie being responsible for his illness and consecutive death. It's obvious that Freddie had probably not contracted HIV had he not been gay. The fact that he had numerous sexual contacts increased the danger to get the virus. However, it was not his fault that he caught the virus at a time when the general public was totally unaware of the dangers of unprotected sex. Let's not forget that AIDS is a viral infection with a retro virus that takes up to ten years to develop the first symptoms. At the time when the first tests were available (1985) sexually active gay men were either unlucky or lucky, i.e. infected (Freddie) or not infected (Elton John). I have witnessed people die of AIDS and they did not have the choice. They caught a vicious virus at a time when nobody was aware of it and they were not irresponsible, reckless people - they were just unluckily living between the time when AIDS had not yet spread and the time when the public was well informed and able to protect themselves. Now a lot has been said about Freddie's sexual activities post 1985 when he could have known that he was probably a danger for other people. There has been a lot of finger pointing about who gave the virus to whom - mainly by people who have no business whatsoever except for being curious about the scandal in the life of a celebrity. Most likely there was careless behaviour between Freddie and his post 1985 lovers but they were all adults and it was their own business and IMO not for us or anyone else to pass judgment on them after over 20 years. It is well possible that they closed their eyes and did not face the unspeakable until they really had to.While I understand the above comments, my point of view is that our Freddie paid the price (unknowingly, ofcourse) for the lifestyle he chose for himnself (I'm talking about his promiscuity, not homosexuality), of his own free will. MJ, on the other hand, was a victim of circumstances. I guess that's what I've been trying to say all along. |
| Mr.Jingles 20.10.2009 21:00 |
This whole talk about Freddie contracting AIDS made me think of a silly quote from 'Family Guy': "In 1956 AIDS didn't exist yet. AIDS was invented many years later by the government in order to get rid of the homosexual population" Silly as it seems, I wouldn't be surprised if some extremist U.S. government insider (of which there have been many and still we have some) wanted to create a virus to kill homosexuals. I know we can't believe 100% on conspiracy theories, but it makes me wonder why a virus would target specifically homosexuals and not so much a broader heterosexual population. |
| mike hunt 21.10.2009 02:39 |
ParisNair wrote:YourValentine wrote: First of all there is no need to apologise for voicing your opinion. It's funny how you suggest that the drug overdose was not the immediate cause of MJ's death ( I agree that many other events added up leading to Michael's death) but you are so sure about Freddie being responsible for his illness and consecutive death. It's obvious that Freddie had probably not contracted HIV had he not been gay. The fact that he had numerous sexual contacts increased the danger to get the virus. However, it was not his fault that he caught the virus at a time when the general public was totally unaware of the dangers of unprotected sex. Let's not forget that AIDS is a viral infection with a retro virus that takes up to ten years to develop the first symptoms. At the time when the first tests were available (1985) sexually active gay men were either unlucky or lucky, i.e. infected (Freddie) or not infected (Elton John). I have witnessed people die of AIDS and they did not have the choice. They caught a vicious virus at a time when nobody was aware of it and they were not irresponsible, reckless people - they were just unluckily living between the time when AIDS had not yet spread and the time when the public was well informed and able to protect themselves. Now a lot has been said about Freddie's sexual activities post 1985 when he could have known that he was probably a danger for other people. There has been a lot of finger pointing about who gave the virus to whom - mainly by people who have no business whatsoever except for being curious about the scandal in the life of a celebrity. Most likely there was careless behaviour between Freddie and his post 1985 lovers but they were all adults and it was their own business and IMO not for us or anyone else to pass judgment on them after over 20 years. It is well possible that they closed their eyes and did not face the unspeakable until they really had to.While I understand the above comments, my point of view is that our Freddie paid the price (unknowingly, ofcourse) for the lifestyle he chose for himnself (I'm talking about his promiscuity, not homosexuality), of his own free will. MJ, on the other hand, was a victim of circumstances. I guess that's what I've been trying to say all along. I disagree!....Remember michael was a drug addict. popping pills like it's going out of style. Don't you think all those pills have a negative effect on the heart?....has anyone been charged with murder?......In freddie's case, By 1985 people knew about aids. freddie and his friends should have known better. I'm not being Judging, I'm Just being real. All our mistakes come down to us. god knows I'v made some fucking big ones. No Exuses!.... |
| ParisNair 21.10.2009 05:14 |
mike hunt wrote: I disagree!....Remember michael was a drug addict. popping pills like it's going out of style. Don't you think all those pills have a negative effect on the heart?....has anyone been charged with murder?......In freddie's case, By 1985 people knew about aids. freddie and his friends should have known better. I'm not being Judging, I'm Just being real. All our mistakes come down to us. god knows I'v made some fucking big ones. No Exuses!....Didn't Michael and our Freddie's friendship suffer when MJ came to know of the latter's cocaine use? Michael's addiction was for precription drugs. Michael started taking drugs because of the physical pain he suffered. He started with pain killers after the burn incident in late 80s and then moved on to otehr drugs prescribed by his doctors. Probably by the time he realised his dependencs on these drugs, he was addicted. You could argue that he was responsible for the addiction himself, and you'd be right. But Michael, IMO, did not have the ability to think straight in regular matters and could not make decisions for himself in life becuase his life was controlled through-out by other people, right from childhood. In the Oprah interview in the 90s he said his father still scared the shit out of him. On another note, there are some psychiatrists who believe that Michael suffered from a mental illness called "alienation of the existential self" which apparently affects many afro-americans. I'm with you when you say no excuses can be offered for the screw-ups in our own lives. |
| mike hunt 22.10.2009 10:18 |
ParisNair wrote:mike hunt wrote: I disagree!....Remember michael was a drug addict. popping pills like it's going out of style. Don't you think all those pills have a negative effect on the heart?....has anyone been charged with murder?......In freddie's case, By 1985 people knew about aids. freddie and his friends should have known better. I'm not being Judging, I'm Just being real. All our mistakes come down to us. god knows I'v made some fucking big ones. No Exuses!....Didn't Michael and our Freddie's friendship suffer when MJ came to know of the latter's cocaine use? Michael's addiction was for precription drugs. Michael started taking drugs because of the physical pain he suffered. He started with pain killers after the burn incident in late 80s and then moved on to otehr drugs prescribed by his doctors. Probably by the time he realised his dependencs on these drugs, he was addicted. You could argue that he was responsible for the addiction himself, and you'd be right. But Michael, IMO, did not have the ability to think straight in regular matters and could not make decisions for himself in life becuase his life was controlled through-out by other people, right from childhood. In the Oprah interview in the 90s he said his father still scared the shit out of him. On another note, there are some psychiatrists who believe that Michael suffered from a mental illness called "alienation of the existential self" which apparently affects many afro-americans. I'm with you when you say no excuses can be offered for the screw-ups in our own lives. A drug addict is a drug addict!...it doesn't matter how you became one or if it's pills or cocain. Plus, that's only a rumor about michael and freddie. freddie had his own demons Just like michael, and the rest of us. Zebonka was right when we said we overate our idols as people. I'm not a michael fan, I actually think he's grossly overated, but you can't make exuses for everything these guys do. Including freddie, who was plain stupid for sleeping around without a condom. |
| Crazy LittleThing 22.10.2009 13:31 |
mike hunt wrote: Zebonka was right when we said we overate our idols as people. OK, just so long as you're not saying Zebonka is overrated. |
| john bodega 22.10.2009 13:39 |
(stands up in front of mike hunt and everyone else in the thread) I'm gonna let you guys finish and everything, but I am so much more overrated than you guys. Is all I'm saying. |
| Lisser 22.10.2009 13:54 |
No no no Zeb!! It's IMMA letchooo finish...IMMA...you can't use proper grammar!!! Get it right, get it tight. Wurd. |
| john bodega 22.10.2009 14:22 |
Grammar doesn't care about Zebonka people :( |
| Crazy LittleThing 22.10.2009 20:22 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Grammar doesn't care about Zebonka people :(Oh you got THAT right, Homes. Yo. |
| Crazy LittleThing 22.10.2009 20:26 |
Lisser wrote: No no no Zeb!! It's IMMA letchooo finish...IMMA...you can't use proper grammar!!! Get it right, get it tight. Wurd.Oh no you di'int! You go girl. Oh yeah, you tell him, girlfriend! |
| mike hunt 23.10.2009 10:52 |
we're all overated!...even Zebonka. |
| mike hunt 23.10.2009 11:45 |
Lisser wrote: Is anyone going to see this movie? I bought my tickets the day they came out. I'm excited to see it but I know it will be sad. The only thing that's sad is little girls like you making such a big deal out of this man!....If you want to spend your money on good music check out the blues. howlin wolf and muddy waters meant way more to music than micheal Jackson. |
| john bodega 23.10.2009 12:33 |
I hear there's a twist at the end. |
| Crazy LittleThing 23.10.2009 14:21 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I hear there's a twist at the end. No spoilers! Let me guess. He doesn't do the fifty consecutive O2 gigs and the promoters try to keep the money for the concert tickets by claiming the tickets are "collectors' items"? Oh, come ON, dude! That would NEVER happen! Oh, wait . . . |
| Mr.Jingles 23.10.2009 15:37 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I hear there's a twist at the end. MJs dead body pops out of the casket, then he's joined by hundreds of cemetery corpses, and they do the 'Thriller' dance. |
| john bodega 24.10.2009 02:47 |
Life imitates art imitates life! |
| ParisNair 24.10.2009 16:30 |
mike hunt wrote:Funny thng about this discussion is that I don't disagree with anything u or YourValentine have said on the topic. Well, there's nothing more for me to add, other than saying again that MJ's mistakes were mostly due to the pressing circumstances. Ofcourse, he should have known better, but that's the way it is.ParisNair wrote:A drug addict is a drug addict!...it doesn't matter how you became one or if it's pills or cocain. Plus, that's only a rumor about michael and freddie. freddie had his own demons Just like michael, and the rest of us. Zebonka was right when we said we overate our idols as people. I'm not a michael fan, I actually think he's grossly overated, but you can't make exuses for everything these guys do. Including freddie, who was plain stupid for sleeping around without a condom.mike hunt wrote: I disagree!....Remember michael was a drug addict. popping pills like it's going out of style. Don't you think all those pills have a negative effect on the heart?....has anyone been charged with murder?......In freddie's case, By 1985 people knew about aids. freddie and his friends should have known better. I'm not being Judging, I'm Just being real. All our mistakes come down to us. god knows I'v made some fucking big ones. No Exuses!....Didn't Michael and our Freddie's friendship suffer when MJ came to know of the latter's cocaine use? Michael's addiction was for precription drugs. Michael started taking drugs because of the physical pain he suffered. He started with pain killers after the burn incident in late 80s and then moved on to otehr drugs prescribed by his doctors. Probably by the time he realised his dependencs on these drugs, he was addicted. You could argue that he was responsible for the addiction himself, and you'd be right. But Michael, IMO, did not have the ability to think straight in regular matters and could not make decisions for himself in life becuase his life was controlled through-out by other people, right from childhood. In the Oprah interview in the 90s he said his father still scared the shit out of him. On another note, there are some psychiatrists who believe that Michael suffered from a mental illness called "alienation of the existential self" which apparently affects many afro-americans. I'm with you when you say no excuses can be offered for the screw-ups in our own lives. About the movie...the movie hall nearby has declared they'll be showing it for 2 weeks in Nov. I'm still in no mood to watch it (for reasons stated before) but I'm not discounting that curiosity may get the better of me. Gettting tickets, even current, should not be a problem I think. |
| ParisNair 24.10.2009 16:32 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: I hear there's a twist at the end.MJs dead body pops out of the casket, then he's joined by hundreds of cemetery corpses, and they do the 'Thriller' dance. I won't be surprised if we actually see that in some spoof movie. |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 25.10.2009 04:41 |
just seen the trailor on tv here in the UK and it appealed to my warped sense of humour. no,not the film itself but the writing at the bottom of the screen to advise viewers of its content: WARNING,CONTAINS OCCASSIONAL SCARY IMAGE now,is that due to the show or his plasticy surgically 'enhanced' face? plus,the film is a bit like Titanic isnt it? we all know how its gonna end.. Uri Gellar appears and says "you must all love Michael" Oliver! appears and says "fuck that,im the Daddy!" and VH1 plays the film non-stop for 6 months on its channel until Justin Timberlake kicks the bucket and dies.. |
| john bodega 25.10.2009 04:46 |
ParisNair wrote: I won't be surprised if we actually see that in some spoof movie.If I had the money I would've made it already. |
| Mr Mercury 25.10.2009 06:36 |
Mr.Jingles wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: I hear there's a twist at the end.MJs dead body pops out of the casket, then he's joined by hundreds of cemetery corpses, and they do the 'Thriller' dance. That will be why the film is coming so close to Halloween.............. Mystery solved Mr Jingles!! |
| Bo Rhap 25.10.2009 07:07 |
I heard that there already is a follow up film being made at this moment. Called This Is Shit. |
| john bodega 25.10.2009 07:24 |
Bo Rhap wrote: I heard that there already is a follow up film being made at this moment. Called This Is Shit.You know, I've been posting that same joke on every MJ video I can find for about a month now, and it hasn't gotten a reaction yet! |
| Lisser :) 25.10.2009 13:20 |
mike hunt wrote:Lisser wrote: Is anyone going to see this movie? I bought my tickets the day they came out. I'm excited to see it but I know it will be sad.The only thing that's sad is little girls like you making such a big deal out of this man!....If you want to spend your money on good music check out the blues. howlin wolf and muddy waters meant way more to music than micheal Jackson. I can spend my money on whatever I want ass. If I enjoy Michael Jackson's music and performances that is my right to do. Suck it!!!!! |
| Holly2003 25.10.2009 13:27 |
Lisser :) wrote:mike hunt wrote:I can spend my money on whatever I want ass. If I enjoy Michael Jackson's music and performances that is my right to do. Suck it!!!!!Lisser wrote: Is anyone going to see this movie? I bought my tickets the day they came out. I'm excited to see it but I know it will be sad.The only thing that's sad is little girls like you making such a big deal out of this man!....If you want to spend your money on good music check out the blues. howlin wolf and muddy waters meant way more to music than micheal Jackson. :D lol! |
| Bo Rhap 25.10.2009 14:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Bo Rhap wrote: I heard that there already is a follow up film being made at this moment. Called This Is Shit.You know, I've been posting that same joke on every MJ video I can find for about a month now, and it hasn't gotten a reaction yet! Maybe they are all just ignorant bastards. Anyway.What i mean by that silly joke is a reference to all the people that are gonna make a fast buck outta MJ's death.In much the same way as all the shitheads that cashed in on Freddie after he died. |
| mike hunt 26.10.2009 01:58 |
Sadly, these clowns are gonna make millions on this mans death. Freddie's death was not nearly as overblown as micheals was. If freds death was like this I would say freddie was way overated too. No one deserves that much coverage, especially a pop star with an average voice. Did muddy waters or howlin wolf get any coverage when they died?....That's all they did was influence greats like eric clapton, hendrix, the stones, the beatles, the doors, while michael gave way to the next justin timberlake. No disrespect to Mr. Jackson, he was a hell of a dancer/perfomer, but man, he's overated. |
| john bodega 26.10.2009 11:00 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: plus,the film is a bit like Titanic isnt it? we all know how its gonna end..They sure had me on the edge of my seat with the whole Heart of the Ocean thing. Oh boy, who would've guessed that the old slut had it in her pocket the entire time! |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 26.10.2009 12:46 |
Zebonka12 wrote:i hate to think where she hid it to get it through customs :-pJoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: plus,the film is a bit like Titanic isnt it? we all know how its gonna end..They sure had me on the edge of my seat with the whole Heart of the Ocean thing. Oh boy, who would've guessed that the old slut had it in her pocket the entire time! |
| john bodega 26.10.2009 13:25 |
Young Rose? I'm all ears. Old Rose - EWWWWWWWWWWWW |
| Lisser 28.10.2009 15:18 |
Ok...movie is tonight!!!! |
| Lisser :) 29.10.2009 08:21 |
The movie was EXCELLENT!!! Anyone who is remotely a fan should see it. |
| john bodega 29.10.2009 08:59 |
I'm not even remotely a fan but I think my ISP is being watched so I don't want to torrent anything. I might go see it if I can tear myself away from the video editing for a couple of hours. |
| inu-liger 29.10.2009 11:23 |
Lisser :) wrote: The movie was EXCELLENT!!! Anyone who is remotely a fan should see it. I highly cannot agree more! Best moments for me personally were "Human Nature" (got MAJOR goosebumps all over, which is very rare for me! It was very emotional), "Thriller", and "Black Or White". Though all the songs were good nonetheless. And it was very nice to see snippets of "Speechless" and "Threatened" in there - wasn't totally expecting that! All I can say was, this really was it, and we lost the opportunity to see probably one of THE best shows of all time! :-( |
| The Mir@cle 29.10.2009 11:50 |
I should convince Marialvy to go and see it with me. |
| Lisser :) 29.10.2009 19:20 |
inu-liger wrote:Lisser :) wrote: The movie was EXCELLENT!!! Anyone who is remotely a fan should see it.I highly cannot agree more! Best moments for me personally were "Human Nature" (got MAJOR goosebumps all over, which is very rare for me! It was very emotional), "Thriller", and "Black Or White". Though all the songs were good nonetheless. And it was very nice to see snippets of "Speechless" and "Threatened" in there - wasn't totally expecting that! All I can say was, this really was it, and we lost the opportunity to see probably one of THE best shows of all time! :-( Absolutely 110% agree with you. |
| its_a_hard_life 26994 30.10.2009 09:29 |
I STILL HAVEN'T WATCHED IT YET. I WILL DO ON MONDAY. [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
| Aisha Sweetness 30.10.2009 19:42 |
IT'S TRUELY AWESOME...LOVED IT... |
| Lisser :) 31.10.2009 22:37 |
its_a_hard_life wrote: I STILL HAVEN'T WATCHED IT YET. I WILL DO ON MONDAY. [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] You HAVE to see it!! Let me know what you think!! |
| mike hunt 01.11.2009 01:55 |
he's Bad!...and he knows it!....If queen wrote a song with those lryics it would be trashed as garbage, crap, shit, but it was written by the so called king of pop so it's ok. |
| mooghead 01.11.2009 07:42 |
link Am loving this out take from the Beat It video.... |