Did Freddie's vocal nodules limit his range live?

Gregsynth 02.10.2009 11:16	Did Freddie's vocal nodules limit his range live? Or did he purposely sang lower because he knew he couldn't lose his voice during a long tour/show.
mike hunt 02.10.2009 11:23	no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time.
Gregsynth 02.10.2009 11:26	Yeah, but some reason from the Crazy Tour to the Hot Space tour, Freddie would "go for it" when he had a high note.
mike hunt 02.10.2009 12:00	yea, that early 80's freddie was unstoppable live.
Gregsynth 02.10.2009 12:06	Completely agree! His vocals on Rock Montreal and Live at the Bowl were amazing!
PauloPanucci 02.10.2009 12:52	mike hunt wrote: no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time. Queen had to post pone lots of gigs because Freddie can't sing!
john bodega 02.10.2009 13:53	The coke can't have helped.
mike hunt 02.10.2009 16:20	or the cigs
Carlos 02.10.2009 17:31	He also claims to have smoked because it made his voice huskier.
Angeline 02.10.2009 17:41	Zebonka12 wrote: The coke can't have helped. Apparently the women from fleetwood mac used to have it blown up their ass for that reason. Or it could just have been for the sheer debauchery...
Dan C. 03.10.2009 05:59	Oh, that Stevie Nicks!
Micrówave 03.10.2009 13:34	According to Mick's book, Stevie actually had a "hired hand", if you'll pardon the pun, who administered her coke anally during the Tango In The Night tour. No details on exactly how that was administered. It made me think. If Freddie had done this, perhaps he could have hit those high notes with much more authority. So, guys, the next time the prostate exam comes up, try singing Little Lies.
mooghead 03.10.2009 17:42	QueenPaulo wrote: mike hunt wrote: no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time. Queen had to post pone lots of gigs because Freddie can't sing! Suggest you improve your english.
wilk 04.10.2009 09:46	His voice was affected by the amount he swallowed.
mike hunt 05.10.2009 00:09	Carlos wrote: He also claims to have smoked because it made his voice huskier. I know freddie said that, but I don't believe him. He smoked because he had no control. Eventually that lack of control caught up too him.
PauloPanucci 05.10.2009 12:32	mooghead wrote: QueenPaulo wrote: mike hunt wrote: no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time. Queen had to post pone lots of gigs because Freddie can't sing! Suggest you improve your english. any problem????????
Micrówave 05.10.2009 17:19	The only thing I saw wrong is you spelled 'postpone' as two words and it should have been in past tense. But I understood what you were trying to say. Let's look at Mike's first post in this thread... no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time 1. "no" should have been capitalized 2. "Question" should not have been 3. A comma belongs after "question" 4. The word BUT is a conjunction. A compound sentence is joined by the conjunction BUT in sentence two, but it is NOT a compound sentence. "Not in the studio" does not have a subject or predicate and therefore is not a complete thought and therefore the use of BUT is incorrect. 5. it AFFECTED his voice, not effected it. Mike Hunt's English is far worse than yours and he lives in an English speaking country. Kinda tells you a little bit about the youth of today. I'd say Mike Hunt is blowing hot air.
PauloPanucci 05.10.2009 18:07	Micrówave wrote: The only thing I saw wrong is you spelled 'postpone' as two words and it should have been in past tense. But I understood what you were trying to say. Let's look at Mike's first post in this thread... no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time 1. "no" should have been capitalized 2. "Question" should not have been 3. A comma belongs after "question" 4. The word BUT is a conjunction. A compound sentence is joined by the conjunction BUT in sentence two, but it is NOT a compound sentence. "Not in the studio" does not have a subject or predicate and therefore is not a complete thought and therefore the use of BUT is incorrect. 5. it AFFECTED his voice, not effected it. Mike Hunt's English is far worse than yours and he lives in an English speaking country. Kinda tells you a little bit about the youth of today. I'd say Mike Hunt is blowing hot air. tkx Micro ;D
mike hunt 06.10.2009 01:58	Micrówave wrote: The only thing I saw wrong is you spelled 'postpone' as two words and it should have been in past tense. But I understood what you were trying to say. Let's look at Mike's first post in this thread... no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time 1. "no" should have been capitalized 2. "Question" should not have been 3. A comma belongs after "question" 4. The word BUT is a conjunction. A compound sentence is joined by the conjunction BUT in sentence two, but it is NOT a compound sentence. "Not in the studio" does not have a subject or predicate and therefore is not a complete thought and therefore the use of BUT is incorrect. 5. it AFFECTED his voice, not effected it. Mike Hunt's English is far worse than yours and he lives in an English speaking country. Kinda tells you a little bit about the youth of today. I'd say Mike Hunt is blowing hot air. was that called for?......Mr. hot space is the greatest album man!....lol....It's easy being tough sitting behind a computer....lol. You wouldn't last a minute with me Mr. hot space!...Are you from ny?...if you are I'll prove it too you.
Micrówave 07.10.2009 12:54	So you wanna fight because (1) you accused a Queenzoner of bad English skills and (2) I showed yours are far worse. Okay. When and where, Mr. New York tough guy? I have a hard time believing someone named Mike Hunt is not a p*ssy. In a state with that big a population, there are plenty of kitty kats in New York. I live in Dallas TX. You give me your flight number, and I'll pick you up at DFW airport. We'll drive to Dallas Cowboys Stadium and I will buy you a pink Tony Romo jersey. Then I can show you the Oak Lawn area, which you would be very comfortable in. After a few drinks with the "boys", then maybe you'll have enough courage. Then you can change your user name to Mike Bitch, because you will be mine. I already know you're Mike Hunt. In your defense: You know Rocky wasn't that smart either, tough guy. It IS easy sitting behind the computer and acting tough. But it is DIFFICULT sitting behind the computer and making grammatical sense, isn't it Mr. New York? Instead of skipping class to beat people up, maybe you should have stayed in school. "Well, the world needs ditch diggers too, Danny." - Judge Smells
dragon-fly 07.10.2009 13:39	Ahem, excuse me dears. But Mike didn't say anything bad about Queenpaulo's English (at least in this thread). It was Mooghead's quote.
PauloPanucci 07.10.2009 16:57	dragon-fly wrote: Ahem, excuse me dears. But Mike didn't say anything bad about Queenpaulo's English (at least in this thread). It was Mooghead's quote. Just Because i'm Brazilian and have people who think in Brazil just leave monkeys in a Jungle!
Micrówave 07.10.2009 17:07	I know Mike Hunt didn't criticise QueenPaulo. I was just pulling another example of worse grammar from the thread. I didn't know it would rouse Mike Hunt into action and get his fisticuffs ready. I simply responded the way "tough guys" like to be talked to. Do I want to have a sanctioned bout against Mike Hunt? No. I don't want to resort to violence towards Mike Hunt. Mike Hunt is usually nice... maybe it's that time of the month. Most of the time, if I have a problem with Mike Hunt, it clears up after a couple of days. The lesson to be learned here: Mike Hunt is mine and I am proud of Mike Hunt. I should be able to use Mike Hunt the way I want to. I will try to keep Mike Hunt more in line.
mike hunt 08.10.2009 00:32	Like i would ever resort to violence over this nonsense. If I ever met microwave in the street I would give him a nice fat kiss, and a huge hug.
mike hunt 08.10.2009 00:43	Micrówave wrote: So you wanna fight because (1) you accused a Queenzoner of bad English skills and (2) I showed yours are far worse. Okay. When and where, Mr. New York tough guy? I have a hard time believing someone named Mike Hunt is not a p*ssy. In a state with that big a population, there are plenty of kitty kats in New York. I live in Dallas TX. You give me your flight number, and I'll pick you up at DFW airport. We'll drive to Dallas Cowboys Stadium and I will buy you a pink Tony Romo jersey. Then I can show you the Oak Lawn area, which you would be very comfortable in. After a few drinks with the "boys", then maybe you'll have enough courage. Then you can change your user name to Mike Bitch, because you will be mine. I already know you're Mike Hunt. In your defense: You know Rocky wasn't that smart either, tough guy. It IS easy sitting behind the computer and acting tough. But it is DIFFICULT sitting behind the computer and making grammatical sense, isn't it Mr. New York? Instead of skipping class to beat people up, maybe you should have stayed in school. "Well, the world needs ditch diggers too, Danny." - Judge Smells oh, look what I came across. How did mike hunt miss this.?.... Who accused a Queenzoner of bad english?...not me!.... I couldn't give a flying fuck if someone mispells something, or doesn't use good grammer, it's a fucking music forum, ....who gives a rats ass about that!.... I bet I went further in school than this asshole microwave did, Afterall, he doesn't know how to read....... how stupid are you Mr. Microwave?
mike hunt 08.10.2009 00:46	dragon-fly wrote: Ahem, excuse me dears. But Mike didn't say anything bad about Queenpaulo's English (at least in this thread). It was Mooghead's quote. Thanks, Good looking out!.... Queenpaulo's is one of my favorite Queenzoners.
dragon-fly 08.10.2009 03:48	QueenPaulo wrote: dragon-fly wrote: Ahem, excuse me dears. But Mike didn't say anything bad about Queenpaulo's English (at least in this thread). It was Mooghead's quote. Just Because i'm Brazilian and have people who think in Brazil just leave monkeys in a Jungle! And who are those people? Next Olympic Games are going to be in Brazil! If you want to know, I think that your English got much better since your first post. You are headling in right direction. Just go ahead Queenpaulo!
dragon-fly 08.10.2009 03:50	mike hunt wrote: Like i would ever resort to violence over this nonsense. If I ever met microwave in the street I would give him a nice fat kiss, and a huge hug. Ah, that's nice...
Holly2003 08.10.2009 04:43	dragon-fly wrote: QueenPaulo wrote: dragon-fly wrote: Ahem, excuse me dears. But Mike didn't say anything bad about Queenpaulo's English (at least in this thread). It was Mooghead's quote. Just Because i'm Brazilian and have people who think in Brazil just leave monkeys in a Jungle! And who are those people? Next Olympic Games are going to be in Brazil! If you want to know, I think that your English got much better since your first post. You are headling in right direction. Just go ahead Queenpaulo! Oh Lordy. One joke on The Simpsons (okay, maybe two) and now Brazil has a chip on its shoulder about its monkey problem. Sheesh! Just catch the damn things, can't you? Stop playing football for a minute, or waxing your beavers, and go get some monkey nets! :)
buffypython 08.10.2009 11:08	I'd love to hear how grammatical errors and monkeys have anything to do with Freddie's vocal nodules. Geez, is it possible to have a single thread on QZ without someone bad-mouthing someone else?! Do what I do, if someone uses bad English, just do what I do: 1) If English is their 2nd language, put on your big girl panties and deal with it. 2) If it's their 1st language, who gives a crap? This is a *QUEEN* forum, not a grammatically-correct-English forum. In fact, we could all speak Chinese if we wanted to since this is just a Queen forum! As for the question at hand, whoever asked it, I'm sorry for all the chaos surrounding your thread and I hope someone is able to answer you kindly (I don't know the answer, but I would guess yes since I've heard the Sun City audio).
john bodega 08.10.2009 13:01	Micrówave wrote: So you wanna fight because (1) you accused a Queenzoner of bad English skills and (2) I showed yours are far worse. Okay. When and where, Mr. New York tough guy? I have a hard time believing someone named Mike Hunt is not a p*ssy. In a state with that big a population, there are plenty of kitty kats in New York. I live in Dallas TX. You give me your flight number, and I'll pick you up at DFW airport. We'll drive to Dallas Cowboys Stadium and I will buy you a pink Tony Romo jersey. Then I can show you the Oak Lawn area, which you would be very comfortable in. After a few drinks with the "boys", then maybe you'll have enough courage. Then you can change your user name to Mike Bitch, because you will be mine. I already know you're Mike Hunt. In your defense: You know Rocky wasn't that smart either, tough guy. It IS easy sitting behind the computer and acting tough. But it is DIFFICULT sitting behind the computer and making grammatical sense, isn't it Mr. New York? Instead of skipping class to beat people up, maybe you should have stayed in school. "Well, the world needs ditch diggers too, Danny." - Judge Smells Oh God not another one. What have you done with the real Microwave?
PauloPanucci 09.10.2009 15:31	buffypython wrote: 2) If it's their 1st language, who gives a crap? This is a *QUEEN* forum, not a grammatically-correct-English forum. In fact, we could all speak Chinese if we wanted to since this is just a Queen forum! i agree with you!
redspecialusa 12.10.2009 18:43	Well yes & no. Yes in that it hurt him to go high in his vocal range...No, in that he in fact could go that high.
Gregsynth 13.10.2009 11:08	LMFAO! I love how everyone's getting into arguements about grammar errors!
mike hunt 14.10.2009 00:54	Only an idiot would bring up grammer errors on a music forum. We all know who that idiot is.
Micrówave 14.10.2009 16:26	Only a moron would be dwelling on this for a week.
Gregsynth 29.10.2009 17:11	Lets just get back on topic. lol
mooghead 01.11.2009 15:05	"It was Mooghead's quote. " Hey... careful. Someone comes on a Queen fansite and says Freddie cant sing then they get an 'improve English' warning. Couldn't give a shit if English is their second language. (and yes, their English is better than my.... whatever they speak) This is all tongue in cheek by the way. I know how some numpties on here take everything literally.
Thistle 01.11.2009 16:17	What was the question again? I got lost in the argument.....oh yes, it was Freddie's range - what the fuck is a vocal nozzle? lol I think that Freddie sang whichever way he wanted to anytime he wanted to, there were no other factors than his own personal choice or how he felt at the time. If he wanted to go for it, he would, if he wanted to calm it a little, he would - there was always at least one real gem of a show from each tour and one that was all over the place vocally....but it always came across that he was just experimenting with different ranges. As for the other discussion on this thread, it has been quite entertaining - by far the most intelligent and classy quotes from Microwave I've come across yet. I'm actually beginning to like this guy! (Big hug and kiss from me too, then lol)
The Real Wizard 02.11.2009 11:34	Thistleboy 1980 wrote: What was the question again? I got lost in the argument.....oh yes, it was Freddie's range - what the fuck is a vocal nozzle? lol It's 'nodule' - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_fold_nodule I think that Freddie sang whichever way he wanted to anytime he wanted to, there were no other factors than his own personal choice or how he felt at the time. Look up clips from Tokyo 79 on youtube, and you definitely won't be convinced that his voice was ever in poor shape by choice. He was very up and down in the 70s, solid in the early 80s, but by the mid-80s his smoking limited his voice greatly... most high notes were reached only by shouting. He wouldn't go for the first note in It's A Hard Life not because he didn't want to hit it... it was because he couldn't. In the studio you get as many takes as you want, and you can rest for however long you need, but live you get one chance. Live is where the real voice comes to say hello. While he had his countless moments of brilliance, it wasn't always pretty. For those in the know, here's something I've always wondered... did Freddie take vocal lessons before the Barcelona sessions in 1987? Or was he just able to turn on and off the opera influence like a light switch?
john bodega 02.11.2009 12:07	I've never heard anything indicate that he took lessons at that time. I think he treated the opera thing like any genre or pastiche that he'd approached previously, in that he did a spiffing job of it for what he was (an untrained singer) but I guess if you were to hold him up against the standard of real opera singers it wasn't very good. Not that I'd give a toss myself, I appreciate his Barcelona singing for what it is and not what it isn't...
The Real Wizard 02.11.2009 13:06	Agreed. Purists of any genre will always cut a guy like him to shreds for not having the right technique or whatever, but he tried out more genres than most other singers are even aware of.
Thistle 02.11.2009 15:07	Sir GH wrote: Thistleboy 1980 wrote: What was the question again? I got lost in the argument.....oh yes, it was Freddie's range - what the fuck is a vocal nozzle? lol It's 'nodule' - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocal_fold_nodule I was joking man, I don't need Wikipedia to improve my vocabulary lol
Gregsynth 13.11.2009 13:05	Freddie got them on the Sheer Heart Attack tour.
4 x Vision 14.11.2009 09:23	Thistleboy 1980 wrote: What was the question again? I got lost in the argument.....oh yes, it was Freddie's range - what the fuck is a vocal nozzle? lol I think that Freddie sang whichever way he wanted to anytime he wanted to, there were no other factors than his own personal choice or how he felt at the time. If he wanted to go for it, he would, if he wanted to calm it a little, he would - there was always at least one real gem of a show from each tour and one that was all over the place vocally....but it always came across that he was just experimenting with different ranges. As for the other discussion on this thread, it has been quite entertaining - by far the most intelligent and classy quotes from Microwave I've come across yet. I'm actually beginning to like this guy! (Big hug and kiss from me too, then lol) OFF TOPIC - Ha Ha, not sure what's rarer... a PT fan on a Queen site... or a PT fan in general? I stay across from the stadium lol (I support the bigger team though... the Green and White one, i'll not say who lol). Glad to have you here.
4 x Vision 14.11.2009 09:25	Micrówave wrote: The only thing I saw wrong is you spelled 'postpone' as two words and it should have been in past tense. But I understood what you were trying to say. Let's look at Mike's first post in this thread... no Question it did effect his voice. Not in the studio, but live it effected his voice big time 1. "no" should have been capitalized 2. "Question" should not have been 3. A comma belongs after "question" 4. The word BUT is a conjunction. A compound sentence is joined by the conjunction BUT in sentence two, but it is NOT a compound sentence. "Not in the studio" does not have a subject or predicate and therefore is not a complete thought and therefore the use of BUT is incorrect. 5. it AFFECTED his voice, not effected it. Mike Hunt's English is far worse than yours and he lives in an English speaking country. Kinda tells you a little bit about the youth of today. I'd say Mike Hunt is blowing hot air. WTF is it with you and grammar? Your text messages must take a week to read?
Thistle 15.11.2009 21:32	Van Basten 9 wrote: OFF TOPIC - Ha Ha, not sure what's rarer... a PT fan on a Queen site... or a PT fan in general? I stay across from the stadium lol (I support the bigger team though... the Green and White one, i'll not say who lol). Glad to have you here. lol, cheers mate! Been a PT fan longer than I have a Queen fan, I love them both dearly. Across from our beautiful stadium? lol, what a view you must have!!! The world is such a small place man, here I am on the WWW queen site and end up talking to a hoops fan from 20 mins away lol. Reminds me of a time a few years back when I was trading the old CDRs and got chatting online with this guy who wanted a few of my shows, we traded several e-mails over a lengthy time and ended up trading shows and when I finally got round to sending his stuff, he was practically round the corner from me and already knew my mates, hehe.

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Did Freddie's vocal nodules limit his range live?