cacatua 29.09.2009 10:34 |
Not that I expect many here to run out and preorder it, but sales of Adam's yet unnamed album in one day's time, by word-of-mouth, as there was no official release that it was available for preorder, has risen to #2 on Amazon's list, ahead of even the Beatles. Barbara Streisand's latest album is #1. It promises much. I am curious to see if it delivers. I have my preorder in. link |
Saif 29.09.2009 11:27 |
As great a singer he is, I'm not going to listen to his album because it's probably going to be a genre I won't like, something like contemporary pop/disco/dance whatever. As much as I hate to admit it, Gene Simmons is right, there's no way I can see Adam Lambert doing rock. Normally I listen to metal so this is a "skip"-on-sight. |
john bodega 29.09.2009 11:40 |
cacatua wrote: Not that I expect many here to run out and preorder it, but sales of Adam's yet unnamed album in one day's time, by word-of-mouth, as there was no official release that it was available for preorder, has risen to #2 on Amazon's list, ahead of even the Beatles.Still a bit of catching up to do in the long run (!) but that's pretty neat. More power to him! |
cacatua 29.09.2009 12:00 |
I've heard things like electronic pop/rock, and disco that make me queasy, but it all depends on how it is done. One of the songs called Strut has been praised by some who have heard it as being a self-empowering, anthem type of song, and I think will be the single, but there have been no leaks on YouTube or anywhere else to hear. So we wait.......... |
Saif 29.09.2009 23:33 |
'm only really interested in hearing the song he did for 2012(the movie). Brian described it as "epic". Now, I know that Brian is hard to take seriously nowadays but I really want to find "epic" in what way.. |
john bodega 30.09.2009 02:35 |
He used that same word for some of the TCR tracks. I don't have a blind, irrational hatred of the album - it has some great moments - but I don't really think any of it qualifies as epic. |
Yara 30.09.2009 09:25 |
Wasn't "Strut" the song that stirred Brian into a cloud of whipped cream? |
cacatua 30.09.2009 09:57 |
Yara wrote: Wasn't "Strut" the song that stirred Brian into a cloud of whipped cream? No. That one was the song for the movie 2012, title of which is Time For Miracles. He is actually credited on the movie poster, below the other regular credits, which is kind of odd, considering he doesn't actually have a career yet, it being mostly all potential and anticipation at this point. After Brian's gushy statement about that recording, we are all hoping that the song will be released ahead of the movie, which is due out on October 25th, I think, so we get to hear some of the results of all of that anticipation and potential, as his album isn't due out for another month. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~EDIT Make that the movie 2012 is due out on November 13th. Seems like everything is happening in November, though Adam's song is expected to be released in mid to late October. |
cacatua 30.09.2009 10:02 |
Just read another google alert, and apparently Adam's album hit #1 at amazon yesterday afternoon. Don't know how long that will last but it is kinda cool, I guess. It brings the Queen song Under Pressure to mind as well. |
its_a_hard_life 26994 30.09.2009 10:26 |
I'll probably download it. If I don't like it, I'll delete it. If I do, I'll keep it. |
PauloPanucci 30.09.2009 12:28 |
its_a_hard_life wrote: I'll probably download it. If I don't like it, I'll delete it. If I do, I'll keep it. better download than buy it! agree with you!!!! |
cacatua 01.10.2009 11:42 |
2012 MOVIE THAT FEATURES ADAM LAMBERT'S SONG PLANS MEDIA BLITZ ON OCTOBER 1ST On Thursday night, October 1st, nearly 450 television and cable stations will be airing a new 2-minute preview for the end of the world movie 2012. All at about the same time. The big cliffhanger scene will air across the county between 10:50 - 11:00 p.m. EST/PST, between 9:50 - 10:00 p.m. CST/MST and between 8:50 - 9:00 p.m. Mountain Time. The multi-million dollar promotion is expected to be seen by nearly 110 million. The preview will air on the three major broadcast networks (ABC, CBS and NBC), 89 cable networks, local TV stations in the top 70 markets and Spanish-language networks across the country. 2012 is an epic adventure about a global cataclysm that brings an end to the world and tells of the heroic struggle of the survivors. It will be released in theaters on November 13th. Adam Lambert's song "Time For Miracles" is in the movie and soundtrack and is rumored to be heard during this media blitz. |
cacatua 02.10.2009 17:04 |
Well, after seeing the 2012 spot, I can say it will be a disaster extravaganza, but it shed no light on Adam's song. It probably did get more people watching for it, just in case. |
cacatua 09.10.2009 22:03 |
Here is the teaser for the movie 2012, with a bit of Adam's song, the one that Brian raved about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-LdUWuVBgM&feature=player_embedded |
Saif 09.10.2009 23:19 |
Not sure what to expect. Sounds better than I expected. A bit trite. It's curiously refreshing though. |
cacatua 09.10.2009 23:50 |
Saif wrote: Not sure what to expect. Sounds better than I expected. A bit trite. It's curiously refreshing though. After seeing what Brian said about the performance, I had to wonder if anything could live up to that. You are right about the refreshing part. That's a good description. It is off to a rather grand beginning, and is stuck in my head now. Damn them for not giving up the whole thing! |
cacatua 11.10.2009 10:51 |
cacatua wrote:Here is a link for the mp3 download preview clip at Amazon, which will be available for sale on Oct 20th. It is much better than the movie clip.Saif wrote: Not sure what to expect. Sounds better than I expected. A bit trite. It's curiously refreshing though.After seeing what Brian said about the performance, I had to wonder if anything could live up to that. You are right about the refreshing part. That's a good description. It is off to a rather grand beginning, and is stuck in my head now. Damn them for not giving up the whole thing! http://www.amazon.com/Time-For-Miracles/dp/B002SB3AT2/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1255271749&sr=1-7 EDIT: Went back to watch the movie clip again, and I'd have to say that they are not the same section, though the theme repeats of course. Both worth listening to. The Amazon clip is less cluttered by the movie stuff. |
beautifulsoup 11.10.2009 12:49 |
Saif wrote: Not sure what to expect. Sounds better than I expected. A bit trite. It's curiously refreshing though. Which is why it will be a radio mega-hit. |
cacatua 13.10.2009 20:45 |
Adam helped announce the American Music Award nominees today, and later in an interview with Ryan Seacrest, Adam said he would be performing whatever single they go with from his upcoming album on the show on November 22nd. |
cacatua 13.10.2009 23:53 |
Here is an interesting video of an interview with Rob Cavallo about working with Adam and his upcoming album: http://mjsbigblog.com/adam-lambert-producer-rob-cavallo-spills-the-details.htm |
john bodega 14.10.2009 09:14 |
I was kinda hoping for something that wouldn't sound like every other song ever written... but on the other hand he puts in a fantastic vocal, no doubts there. |
cacatua 14.10.2009 10:01 |
In the interview, Rob Cavallo said that Adam's vocal range covers every note from lowest to highest on the guitar. I know from what I have heard that he has a terrific range, but does anyone think that is even possible? |
cacatua 17.10.2009 17:01 |
A full version of Adam's Time For Miracles, from the movie 2012 has turned up on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iynAEemI4&feature=rec-LGOUT-farside_rn-HM |
john bodega 18.10.2009 01:06 |
cacatua wrote: In the interview, Rob Cavallo said that Adam's vocal range covers every note from lowest to highest on the guitar. I know from what I have heard that he has a terrific range, but does anyone think that is even possible?There's singers who can go further in either direction. Myself, I've not yet heard him sing anything that would prove that statement. Also depends on the guitar. Hell, if it had 18 frets then I could say the same thing about myself, hahaha... |
cacatua 18.10.2009 16:04 |
Try this one. At the very least it will be something totally different than you have likely heard out of Adam. Actually this one blows me away more than most of the other stuff because you really have to be able to sing to do it like this: link |
GratefulFan 18.10.2009 21:09 |
It's very, very lonely being wholly indifferent to Mr. Lambert. But I like it. [img=/images/smiley/msn/devil_smile.gif][/img] |
john bodega 18.10.2009 23:18 |
cacatua wrote: Try this one. At the very least it will be something totally different than you have likely heard out of Adam. Actually this one blows me away more than most of the other stuff because you really have to be able to sing to do it like this:Oh trust me, something I've never doubted is his singing ability! I can't quite understand people who dismiss him purely as an Idol flash in the pan ... okay, he might be one, but he also happens to be one of the ones that can actually do his trade. |
cacatua 19.10.2009 00:09 |
BTW Greatful Fan, thank you for keeping the topic bumped back to the top! Z.......well I just had to establish that. I have no idea who else, if anyone, checks out this thread. I thought there were a couple others here who were somewhat interested in Adam, so I have kept updating the thread with the addition of some links to events as they unfold. Hey, maybe nobody else gives a rat's ass! Both my ol' man and I think Adam is the best singer we have heard in a coon's age, and he reminded us of Freddie in certain ways before we started seeing that other old farts like us were on the same wave length. Speaking for myself, besides the great singing, he is like watching some exotic creature. Right now it is a real hoot that he has made the cover of another magazine called Details. I never heard of it before, but they have a whole run of pictures of he and a naked gal, which are quite racy. Who'd have thought that they would feature the gay guy in this fashion? Perhaps they want to keep the fantasy alive for all of the girls who are going crazy over him in spite of him being gay. I like the link above to him singing in Brigadoon if for no other reason than that I can actually hear his voice, rather than the over-produced Time For Miracles from 2012. But it is a disaster movie, so what else would one expect? Well, enough! |
john bodega 19.10.2009 00:55 |
Ha! I must be nuts, I don't mind a bit of overproduction here and there ... I just think the song itself could've been a little less generic, but that's the balance one has to strike when they're trying to sell something. There's no denying his talents either way - that's a voice you can't create in the studio. 'Tidy up', maaaaybe, but I know vocal fuxing when I hear it and there isn't much going on there. |
mike hunt 19.10.2009 02:39 |
Must admit he sounds good in this song. Much better than expected. He reminds me of michael crawford a bit. |
john bodega 19.10.2009 03:36 |
mike hunt wrote: Must admit he sounds good in this song. Much better than expected. He reminds me of michael crawford a bit.I had the same thought, wouldn't mind hearing him tackle some of that stuff. |
cacatua 19.10.2009 11:28 |
Zebonka12 wrote:mike hunt wrote: Must admit he sounds good in this song. Much better than expected. He reminds me of michael crawford a bit.I had the same thought, wouldn't mind hearing him tackle some of that stuff. Yeah, I can see that. He'd be a tenor, and who knows where his career will take him now? He is not quite the babe-in-the-woods about the music scene that many AI contestants probably are, and he has definite ideas about how he wants to proceed, that have him striking a balance between art and commercial appeal. So will see what happens. I don't think that anyone here needs to worry about him becoming a frontman for Queen, though I hold out hope for an appearance yet. |
Matias Merçeauroix 20.10.2009 19:14 |
Capo Adam |
cacatua 21.10.2009 10:14 |
Video for Time For Miracles released: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=64424781 |
Matias Merçeauroix 21.10.2009 18:48 |
Loved the song, loved the video. Adam is fucking great. |
cacatua 21.10.2009 20:57 |
I've seen comments running from one extreme to the other today about the TFM video. As far as the song and video - they are what they are, which is pretty commercial. When Brian was raving about having heard Adam singing TFM, he was speaking about Adam's performance, not about the song itself, which is OK but nothing to write home about. If Adam wasn't singing it I wouldn't be paying any attention to it. But I think his rendition of the studio version of Feelin' Good from AI were more impressive, but it is a better song too. |
cacatua 27.10.2009 18:54 |
Well get out your amunition folks! Here is the cover of Adam's upcoming album. Hmmmmmmmmmmm................................. |
Dan C. 27.10.2009 21:42 |
O.O |
Knute 27.10.2009 22:59 |
Elink an awful cover. Who on earth told him it would be a great idea to look like a lead singer in an all girl 80's cover band? For a second there I thought I was looking at the bass player for the Go-Gos. :P |
cacatua 27.10.2009 23:55 |
Hehehe. I guess that's the androgynous look, with lots of airbrush? Overcompensation for the photoshoot with the mostly naked gal in Details? A percentage at Adomofficial were kind of speechless too - jaws on floor I guess. Adam does pretty much as he pleases with this stuff, and I guess he will either sink or swim because of it. Wasn't what anyone was expecting, but he did that on Idol too. Rock one week, ballad the next, then maybe something jazzy or soul next time - keep 'em guessing. So I guess it is something of an MO. |
cacatua 28.10.2009 00:09 |
Oh, there's like 21 pages of mostly unkind remarks about Adam's cover at communitylivejournal-ohnotheydidn't too. So you guys will have to sharpen up your tongues quite a bit! [img=/images/smiley/msn/devil_smile.gif][/img] |
john bodega 28.10.2009 05:39 |
The 2012 song is pretty dull. What a bloody performance though! Great stuff on his part. |
cacatua 28.10.2009 09:33 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The 2012 song is pretty dull. What a bloody performance though! Great stuff on his part. I certainly won't disagree. He's saying that the single from his album will be released for download next week - supposedly a previously unreleased Pink song, What Do You Want From Me. I'd rather see him in front of a band with real instruments and musicians who are all contributors, and all having something to offer than accompanied by artificial music. But one thing at a time. Let's see where he is going........... |
ParisNair 28.10.2009 10:04 |
Its hadr to bel;ive that that really is the cover for his debut album. Maybe its just a prank? Thanks for providing the regular posts Cacatua : ) Its llike reading RSS updates. |
beautifulsoup 28.10.2009 10:22 |
I said this in General, so I may as well say it here in PersonaL: That cover looks like an ad for a bad drag show - from the picture, right down to the cheesy lettering. All it needs now is time, place, and cover charge. [img=/images/smiley/msn/confused_smile.gif][/img] |
cacatua 28.10.2009 10:42 |
Well, I thought it sort of looked like a billboard ad for some escort service. I think Adam is mostly screwing with people and having fun, but he has been into costume/make-up since he was a small boy. His mother said she could never put away the Halloween costume box because Adam liked to mess with that stuff all year around, making himself into one character or another. The photos with the gal in Details looked tongue-in-cheek to me - just a little over the top stylewise. |
cacatua 28.10.2009 15:18 |
By now I have read the good, bad, and often ugly things that have been said of the album cover. Here is what Adam says about it: Thank you to those who appreciate and understand that the album cover is deliberately campy. It’s an homage to the past. It IS ridiculous. For those that don’t get it: oh well… Glad to have gotten your attention. Androgyny. Rock n Roll. |
GratefulFan 28.10.2009 23:22 |
To get it is to like it, and to not like it is to not get it. What a facile world Mr. Lambert inhabits on this issue. |
john bodega 29.10.2009 03:37 |
It's like Paul Stanley had a child with Elvis! I think it's a hilarious cover and it's brilliant, when you consider the purpose for which it was made ... to riff on shitty covers. I just dunno how well that joke will translate - myself I think that in 30 years time it will be with TCR in lists of shitty album covers. The difference being that this seems to be deliberate. Bravo though, it's very well done. |
The Fairy King 29.10.2009 06:03 |
There's gonna be a song on his debut album by Muse called "Soaked". U can listen to the Muse version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkTCzxF_xM |
cacatua 29.10.2009 09:38 |
The Fairy King wrote: There's gonna be a song on his debut album by Muse called "Soaked". U can listen to the Muse version here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONkTCzxF_xM Yeah, I saw that listed yesterday. Thanks for the link. I see that someone had to pounce right on it and get the two linked on youtube. I can hear Adam singing that. It should be good. Adam is going to be on Oprah today, though by long distance. She's doing a show about reality TV stars. |
beautifulsoup 29.10.2009 11:30 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It's like Paul Stanley had a child with Elvis! I think it's a hilarious cover and it's brilliant, when you consider the purpose for which it was made ... to riff on shitty covers. I just dunno how well that joke will translate - myself I think that in 30 years time it will be with TCR in lists of shitty album covers. The difference being that this seems to be deliberate. Bravo though, it's very well done. But using a joke for his first album cover ever - and for people who have never even heard of him, it could translate as something totally different....I don't know how well it will translate to them. On the other hand, I s'pose one shouldn't judge a CD by its cover, anyway. |
cacatua 29.10.2009 16:45 |
beautifulsoup wrote:But using a joke for his first album cover ever - and for people who have never even heard of him, it could translate as something totally different....I don't know how well it will translate to them. On the other hand, I s'pose one shouldn't judge a CD by its cover, anyway. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Zebonka12 wrote: It's like Paul Stanley had a child with Elvis! I think it's a hilarious cover and it's brilliant, when you consider the purpose for which it was made ... to riff on shitty covers. I just dunno how well that joke will translate - myself I think that in 30 years time it will be with TCR in lists of shitty album covers. The difference being that this seems to be deliberate. Bravo though, it's very well done. It is a gamble I suppose, but Adam has quite a sense of humor and has at least always said that he was determined to be himself and do things the way he wanted, which is what he did on AI, and it worked for him. So now he continues. If it doesn't work, or if he can't pull it off, then at least he will have only himself to blame. And either the recordings will be good enough to make people take notice and find out who he is so that he can continue his adventure or he will fade to obscurity. Idol gave him exposure, which was what he wanted. It's a pretty safe bet that not too many here have read the interview in Details, which was better than the pictures, but he said he went through a depression in 2006 after a break-up and did a lot of partying and drugs and was in general a "slutbug". In 2007 he was cast in Wicked as an understudy and making enough to support himself, about $1800 a week. He didn't get to go on stage much, which was humbling, and he wasn't happy. So that summer he went to the Burning Man Festival on sort of a spiritual quest and while doing acid for the first time: I had a spiritual epiphany about the world and where I fit into it and what I am supposed to be doing. And my epiphany was, I can't be afraid anymore, I have to take life by the balls and make crap happen. |
cacatua 29.10.2009 18:05 |
I had to laugh at the Oprah appearance because she chose to show a clip of Adam doing Born To Be Wild, which I thought was one of the things he did on Idol that didn't work well, because his voice is just not suited to it IMO. I just don't think he has enough bottom end for that one. But he was the most-requested reality show contestant for her to have on the show, and will be there in November to perform his single I guess. Today's appearance was via Skype, and was taped last week, if memory serves. |
cacatua 30.10.2009 11:32 |
Well I just heard Adam's single from his upcoming album. It was sprung on the Ryan Seacrest show this morning. IMHO it SUCKS! All the teeny-boppers seem to love it, but it is a bunch of electronic ricky-ticky, ricky-ticky crap that doesn't even sound like he has a real voice most of the time! What a waste! [img=/images/smiley/msn/angry_smile.gif][/img] I don't have a decent link to it now, but I'm sure there will be one later. |
john bodega 30.10.2009 12:04 |
One can only hope that it's the only big concession he makes to the well-moneyed morons out there that say what gets on the charts these days ... |
cacatua 30.10.2009 14:13 |
Zebonka12 wrote: One can only hope that it's the only big concession he makes to the well-moneyed morons out there that say what gets on the charts these days ... It flies in the face of everything I was expecting to be sure, Z. When I have time later I will have to see what is being said elsewhere, but this is the sort of thing that would drive me away for sure, and I have to think others also. Yeah, we can hope................What's the point of having a great voice and then turning it into C3PO?! |
cacatua 30.10.2009 17:41 |
If anyone wants to hear this, and hasn't yet, just go to: http://www.adamofficial.com/us/home It should be streaming. |
Matias Merçeauroix 30.10.2009 17:43 |
The song is so common, SO common. I thought it was ok but of course I wasn't expecting 'ok' from Adam. Basically because it has ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY nothing to do with he did on American Idol or The Zodiac Show, or even his performances at the Upright Cabaret. Nor it has anything to do with his pre-Idol recordings (which, btw, have pretty good songs). It has nothing to do with Adam, at all. It's like Queen and The Cosmos Rocks. It's quite dissapointing. |
cacatua 30.10.2009 20:16 |
Nearly everyone else seems to think it is wonderful, by their comments. Even at communitylivejournal-ohnotheydidn't where they have been roasting Adam royally there are now converts. As far as I am concerned it is just FUBAR. I expected the electronic beat stuff, but not the electronic voice. I thought, well his singing will make up for the detested electronic crap. Who'd have thought he/they would screw that up? I will still leave my order for the album and hope this is the worst of it, but my expectations are lowered considerably. |
john bodega 31.10.2009 04:55 |
Hmmm.. listened to about 50 seconds of it and I figured that's basically the song - if I missed out on anything interesting let me know. As I figure it, this sounds like dozens of other songs that are out now, or have been big in the past couple of years (I think whoever popularised that swing-without-actual-swing rhythm from "I Kissed A Girl" has a LOT to fucking answer for ...) and if he wants to make any money I guess that's a quick way to do it. I would hope that his album has some decent tunes on it though. He is capable, to put it lightly. |
cacatua 31.10.2009 09:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Hmmm.. listened to about 50 seconds of it and I figured that's basically the song - if I missed out on anything interesting let me know.As I figure it, this sounds like dozens of other songs that are out now, or have been big in the past couple of years (I think whoever popularised that swing-without-actual-swing rhythm from "I Kissed A Girl" has a LOT to fucking answer for ...) and if he wants to make any money I guess that's a quick way to do it. I would hope that his album has some decent tunes on it though. He is capable, to put it lightly. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Funny, my husband had the same reaction. You didn't miss a thing! Yeah, Adam was working with a lot of people who are a part of that scene. I was rightly concerned about it, and I know that money does figure in as well. I have adjusted to being disgusted with the song by today. Two years ago a politician I was volunteering for here (first and last time I do that!) in the primaries wrote in my copy of his book to "keep the faith", and he is now at least Vice President of the US, so I guess I will now do the same for Adam's album, holding out hope that this song is not representative of the entire thing. |
mooghead 01.11.2009 14:46 |
I swear on the life of my newborn son I have absolutely no idea who Adam Lambert is. |
cacatua 01.11.2009 17:04 |
mooghead wrote: I swear on the life of my newborn son I have absolutely no idea who Adam Lambert is. Sorry about that, as it seems to bother you. You DO know how to Google something? Or is that part of your dysfunctionality? At any rate, if you wish to find out then you will. Otherwise - Ehh! |
john bodega 02.11.2009 03:03 |
mooghead wrote: my newborn sonOh ...... crud. |
GratefulFan 02.11.2009 13:49 |
Zebonka12 wrote:mooghead wrote: my newborn sonOh ...... crud. LOL |
john bodega 02.11.2009 14:17 |
All in jest I assure you! |
GratefulFan 02.11.2009 14:27 |
mooghead wrote: I swear on the life of my newborn son I have absolutely no idea who Adam Lambert is. Oddly, you've pinpointed the root of my issues with the talented Mr. Lambert. I don't think he has any idea of who he is as a performer. All the glitter and makeup and hair dye and platform boots and emoting in the known universe can't change the fact that what he excels at is theatre and power ballads, and not the harder edged rock and pop rock he aspires to. Far from being edgy and interesting to me, he's predictable and skin deep. In my mind the North American culture in particular is really being manipulated on this one by the powers that be - the Idol makers, the silly magazine spreads, the memes, the horrible, wasteful single. Back in May, Joe Caraminica hit it here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/arts/music/22idol.html "Finally both contestants sparred fruitlessly with “No Boundaries,” a genuinely unpleasant spatter of treacle written by Cathy Dennis, Mitch Allan and Ms. DioGuardi. A studio recording of it is Mr. Allen’s first cash-in single, already available on iTunes. Losing spared Mr. Lambert this particular indignity and probably did no damage to his future prospects as a recording artist. Mr. Jackson once suggested that Mr. Lambert could make a record like one by the operatic emo band My Chemical Romance, but that presumes an emotional depth that he never displayed. Performative fireworks aside, Mr. Lambert does not seem to be a deep thinker, and his best appearances this season were also his most straightforward, his exceptional voice notwithstanding. (There’s no way, and little reason, to cover up an instrument so fascinating and dexterous.) Instead the theatrically trained Mr. Lambert was often saddled by muddled, conflicting signifiers. His reference points came in flurries: David Bowie and Freddie Mercury and Led Zeppelin, glam and goth and Broadway. His hairstyle changed by the week. His rock moves were vivid, but rarely completely convincing, the results-night performance with Kiss a notable exception. He only truly hit his stride toward the end of the season, leaving bizarre versions of “Ring of Fire” and “Play That Funky Music” and more in his wake. Those songs got him noticed, but they were too odd to sustain him. That he shined on softer material — “Mad World,” “Feeling Good,” “One” — demonstrates a little-acknowledged truth about Mr. Lambert. Histrionics aside, he’s just an old-fashioned song-and-dance man, without the dancing. A lifetime in and around musical theater will do that to you. “Idol” wanted him to be something more, and he may well have wanted that for himself. So if he was hiding something, it wasn’t his sexual preference, it was his conservatism. If only he had let America see the real him." |
cacatua 02.11.2009 20:31 |
GratefulFan, I don't know that you are off base with this assessment. Adam said that he wanted more control over doing material that he likes than he got in the theater, and I'm not at all sure - is there a demarcation where theatrics end and individual artistry as a vocalist begins? I've never understood that. Doesn't one draw on his feelings to sell a song, theater, pop, rock or whatever? But in the end it IS an act. Is it necessary that a rocker, or whomever, claw his/her way up, as I am told Lady Gaga has done. I certainly don't like the results there, and for all I know she may have popped up like a mushroom somewhere from what I see and hear and I am not inclined to find out any more about her, but just to turn her off. I am disillusioned with Adam still, after his release of FYE, though I can if I want come up with all sorts of reasons why he did this, not the least of which is for the money. But to me this song has all of the appeal of what Lady Gaga does. My feelings are that those who have a good voice use it, and those who don't bury it in this sort of gimmicky electronic crap. The idea that there are a lot of people out there who actually LIKE this sound mystifies me. It is sort of like Alvin and the Chipmunks when I was a kid - maybe new and interesting for a time but only a fad, and nobody else did it that I recall - thank goodness! Perhaps the older you get the more quality enters into what you like. I don't see quality in this kind of thing. I'm not particularly fond of Sheer Heart Attack, but when I played it yesterday it sounded pretty good to me by comparison to what Adam just released. It sounded real at least. Adam is supposed to perform this song at the AMA's, coming up. Now just how will he do that - lip sync it? Boooooo!! I thought the young lad had a clearer idea of what he wanted, but I can see where even if he did he has been so bombarded with things since Idol that would turn most people inside out that perhaps he has lost his way or changed his way of thinking. I don't know where he is going. This has been a relatively sudden change in his life. In that sense, I see some validity to your point of view, as he has not slowly developed himself along the way, building himself into a certain personna with his own distinct sound and direction. Instead he experimented on Idol to see what worked, and then he was plunged into a sort of instant stardom in that particular market which he wants to expand and take advantage of to get himself established. Perhaps he will just sell out to the highest bidder, so to speak. I really don't know. I wait to see what happens and what else is on the CD when it is released. |
cacatua 04.11.2009 10:41 |
Now, totally out of the blue, song previews of all of the songs on Adam's album are available at the Mp3 download page at Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=Adam+Lambert&x=10&y=24 Some of these do sound like they have possibilities, despite the artificial music. |
Mr.Jingles 04.11.2009 20:59 |
That album cover is so gay that Elton John called Adam Lambert and said... YOU'RE SUCH A FAG! |
GratefulFan 06.11.2009 12:17 |
cacatua wrote: Now, totally out of the blue, song previews of all of the songs on Adam's album are available at the Mp3 download page at Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=Adam+Lambert&x=10&y=24 Some of these do sound like they have possibilities, despite the artificial music. I'm glad you're feeling perhaps a little more encouraged cacatua. I know you were looking forward to this, and hopefully you still are. Roger Taylor just reiterated again the other day that they'd like to work with him at some point. Gives me the willies, I must admit, but I do work hard to keep an open mind. He blew Adam's name - called him 'Adam Bolton', which made me laugh right out loud. |
cacatua 06.11.2009 14:16 |
GratefulFan wrote:cacatua wrote: Now, totally out of the blue, song previews of all of the songs on Adam's album are available at the Mp3 download page at Amazon UK: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Ddigital-music&field-keywords=Adam+Lambert&x=10&y=24 Some of these do sound like they have possibilities, despite the artificial music.I'm glad you're feeling perhaps a little more encouraged cacatua. I know you were looking forward to this, and hopefully you still are. Roger Taylor just reiterated again the other day that they'd like to work with him at some point. Gives me the willies, I must admit, but I do work hard to keep an open mind. He blew Adam's name - called him 'Adam Bolton', which made me laugh right out loud. Haha! Poor Roger - so many names flying around that he can't keep up. Thanks for the kind words. I can only wait and see what happens. |
cacatua 06.11.2009 20:50 |
Here is a new interview that is pretty good. Sorry - not one mention here of either Queen or Freddie. Perhaps in retaliation for Roger getting his name wrong. ;o) http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-adam-lambert8-2009nov08,0,4198012,full.story |
cacatua 22.11.2009 23:58 |
After being quite disenchanted with Adam's album, and the title song single he released, For Your Entertainment, I find that it is all a matter of perspective. We just suffered through the entire American Music Awards program, as Adam's performance of FYE closed the show as it turned out. I had no idea that popular music these days was so ghastly! No wonder I don't listen to it. And the worst of all was Lady Gaga, in a performance that was just plain ugly from the costumes through to the bitter end. I suppose that someone tomorrow will say that playing a piano that you have set on fire is original, but Jerry Lee Lewis did it years ago. I thought Adam's performance was a bit sleazy, but it was less electronic sounding when he had to sing it live, and of all of the other crap considered, it was one of the better performances. Comparing it to Queen in their prime would leave much to be desired though. Small wonder old people croak - they just can't stand the shock of change any more, and it's time to pack up and get the hell outa here!! I feel like an old curmudgeon brandishing my cane at it! |
magicalfreddiemercury 23.11.2009 09:26 |
cacatua wrote: Small wonder old people croak - they just can't stand the shock of change any more, and it's time to pack up and get the hell outa here!! I feel like an old curmudgeon brandishing my cane at it! Too funny... though I agree completely. |
john bodega 23.11.2009 12:26 |
HAHAHA .... ah ah . .AHAHAHAH .... Well no one can accuse him of miming. I was just watching that video of his big stage show, and the bit where he's on the big platform and he does a roll ... while singing .... and you hear the "TUMBLE TUMBLE FLOP" noise as he's rolling ..... Class, pure class. I'm glad there's a performing artist out there whose mic is at least turned on. I can't stop laughing though, ahhaha. |
john bodega 23.11.2009 12:43 |
I can't stand the song. Which is a pity because if you listen to what his voice is actually capable of ... fuck ... this guy could be doing some serious fuckin' tunes. |
cacatua 23.11.2009 14:15 |
Zebonka12 wrote: HAHAHA .... ah ah . .AHAHAHAH ....Well no one can accuse him of miming. I was just watching that video of his big stage show, and the bit where he's on the big platform and he does a roll ... while singing .... and you hear the "TUMBLE TUMBLE FLOP" noise as he's rolling ..... Class, pure class. I'm glad there's a performing artist out there whose mic is at least turned on. I can't stop laughing though, ahhaha. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I guess he tripped and then rolled as a recovery. I didn't realize that was what happened. It looked like part of the act. Apparently as well as kissing that guy in the band, and shoving the other guy's face in his crotch and having that gal reach through his legs and grab his crotch he also found time to flip the bird and dig at another gal's crotch, who was over his head on a pole. Hey not bad for your debut! I have read many reviews on this time-sucking vampire todayand had this performance called everything from a train wreck to a triumph. Rolling Stone gave him a decent review, but having had him on their cover and all I feel they have a vested interest. Many are unkind. It's a feeding frenzy at votefortheworst.com. I've heard that there were problems with the sound system all night, but that sounds a lot like making excuses. Most feel that his vocals were not up to par, and some that he shouldn't have sang live with all of the other stuff going on. I feel that it was too shocking for network TV - especially Disney-owned ABC. I'm expecting repercussions. But if he wanted attention he's certainly getting it. |
GratefulFan 23.11.2009 16:21 |
@cacatua It's funny how two people with clear musical common ground (Queen) can look at at something else and feel exactly opposite things. You viscerally dislike Lady GaGa and find her persona and her music manufactured and gimmicky, but see authenticity and artistry in Lambert, and I'm precisely the opposite. Funny how that goes! |
cacatua 23.11.2009 17:57 |
GratefulFan wrote: @cacatua It's funny how two people with clear musical common ground (Queen) can look at at something else and feel exactly opposite things. You viscerally dislike Lady GaGa and find her persona and her music manufactured and gimmicky, but see authenticity and artistry in Lambert, and I'm precisely the opposite. Funny how that goes! I don't like the direction Adam appears to be headed in. I think he has great potential, but I don't know if he will fulfill that. He's very fond of the electronic, clubby dance music. I think it sucks. I feel as though I have been a victim of bait-and-switch at this point. Every time I hear one of his electronic creations it just makes Queen sound so much more priceless. You are right about the Gaga thing though. Her act made Adam look good! (IMHO) I'm not saying she doesn't have talent, but just that what she does is so repulsive to me that it really doesn't matter. |
Matias Merçeauroix 25.11.2009 13:03 |
I liked the album. It's not OMFG but it has some cool songs. |
john bodega 25.11.2009 13:11 |
Honestly, hearing what he's capable of with his voice, I wish he hadn't spent so much energy fucking about on the stage and given a bit more thought to the singing. |
cacatua 25.11.2009 14:52 |
I saw him live on CBS this morning, singing Whataya Want From Me, with his band & and some background assist. It was pretty good, with real singing and real music. As to the merits of the songs, I need time to hear them all and see how they sort themselves out for me. I do find the electronic stuff so disagreeable that if a song is comprised of a good portion of that then I can't get past that to hear anything else. The music video is out for FYE. It is infinitely better than the AMA performance. I'll rummage around and see if I can find a link........ http://www.aceshowbiz.com/video/download/00010915/ It's back to electro-singing, but at least there isn't that dorky suit he was wearing on the AMA's! |
beautifulsoup 25.11.2009 16:07 |
Much better singing to be found here; his appearance on "The Early Show" this morning. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al-i2_GV7EQ I could do without the interview, though. |
cacatua 25.11.2009 16:22 |
Though she's cool and has always been very supportive, it struck me as being a little odd that his mother was there too - not too many "rock stars" are accompanied by their mothers, are they? |
cacatua 09.12.2009 18:30 |
My Adam Lambert CD arrived a week or so ago from Amazon. I played it once in my shop and then went back to Queen. But I had about 3 hours of road time on the weekend, so I thought I would get better acquainted with it. Mid-way through the second playing, I went back to Queen. Couldn't stand the electronic sound any longer. It is a given that I dislike the electronic music, autotune and so on. Perhaps I've mentioned that before. ;o) Getting past that, I like three songs on the CD: Time For Miracles. I agree with Brian that Adam did a spectacular job of singing it. Really don't care about what anyone thinks about the quality of the song. Aunt Marie told me one day when I was patching cracks on these old walls and painting that she believed in wallpaper because it covered up a lot of sins. Same with mediocre songs and great singing. Soaked. Same as above, only a better song. Pick U Up. My favorite. It combines great singing with what I consider to be the best and most interesting song on the album. The rest of it is fodder as far as I am concerned at this point. Perhaps becoming more familiar with the songs would bring out more nuances that would improve my opinion. Will that happen? Dunno. |