philip storey 18.09.2009 13:38 |
1]David Gilmour 2]Dr Brian May 3]Jimmy Page 4]Jimmy Hendrix 5]Joe Satriani 6]Mathew Bellamy 7]Jeff Beck 8]Ritchie Blackmore 9] Steve Howe 10] Pete Townsend. What do you think? |
thomasquinn 32989 18.09.2009 13:40 |
Blackmore before Page, perhaps even before Brian. I also think that it's a bit stepford to call him "Dr." when discussing his music. |
masterstroke_84 18.09.2009 13:54 |
Page and Hendrix, combined, and even with supernatural powers... can't play 1% of what Satriani, Vai, Becker... and other 580.876.976 guitarists can play... The 2 most over and over and over-rated guitarists ever... |
dragon-fly 18.09.2009 14:02 |
masterstroke_84 wrote: Page and Hendrix, combined, and even with supernatural powers... can't play 1% of what Satriani, Vai, Becker... and other 580.876.976 guitarists can play... The 2 most over and over and over-rated guitarists ever... You just made them two the most under and under and under-rated guitarist ever... |
iiiibrahiiim 18.09.2009 15:35 |
Top Ten Guitarists Ever? I suppose we're talking about Rockguitarists, if not I don't think many of them will be on the list.... For me it's about playing with much feeling/emotions and good melody too. So Brian May, David Gilmour, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, ...Bettencourt I'd like to add.. are there... I'm afraid I cannot see Mr Vai or Satriani there. I consider them just as guitar teachers playing scales. Pete Townsend??? The Who is the most overrated band anyway along with Coldplay, Oasis,.. When feeling/emotions are not important, but to play fast then we talk about Mr Vai, Satriani, Kilminster,... My top 10: Jeff Beck Brian May Mark Knopfler Eric Clapton Gary Moore David Gilmour Ritchie Blackmore Nuno Bettencourt Steve Howe John Fogerty |
itsmeskc 18.09.2009 15:38 |
brian may and #2 is someone you didnt mention Brian's good friend, TONY IOMMI |
lalaalalaa 18.09.2009 15:44 |
1. Brian May 2. all those other nameless faces :D |
PauloPanucci 18.09.2009 17:13 |
philip storey wrote: 1]David Gilmour 2]Dr Brian May 3]Jimmy Page 4]Jimmy Hendrix 5]Joe Satriani 6]Mathew Bellamy 7]Jeff Beck 8]Ritchie Blackmore 9] Steve Howe 10] Pete Townsend. What do you think?a little desorganized! |
QUEENexpert 18.09.2009 17:58 |
Eric Clapton. |
mike hunt 18.09.2009 18:05 |
anyone who says brian is a better guitarist than hendrix is a steford to me. Brian might make the top ten. It's all opinions, but brian isn't at #2. He's my personal favorite, only because freddie and brians style mixed so perfectly. Even though he's my personal favorite I'm not gonna say he's the best of all time. My problem with brian is that so many people see Queen as freddie mercury. brian gets over shadowed. Did hendrix get over shadowed?...how about page?..how about richards?.....A guitarist who is a definite top 3 doesn't get over shadowed for anyone. That's why I have a problem putting Mr. may in the top 10. |
Micrówave 18.09.2009 19:36 |
Larry Carlton? John McLaughlin? Carlos Santana? Robert Johnson? |
GT 19.09.2009 01:48 |
After Brian (of course) my next three favourites are: Slash Ace Frehley Richie Sambora It's all about variety to me, rather than who plays the fastest or the loudest. It's all personal opinion any way, so nobody is right or wrong. |
shazamrock 19.09.2009 02:19 |
Lindsey Buckingham |
Major Tom 19.09.2009 06:38 |
David Gilmour is a favourite of mine. Also this guy sure can play the ass off most of them. This is a before-video. Before he turned into a monster. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA0kx9ZbOzI&feature=related Great feeling, super-vocals. |
pittrek 19.09.2009 08:12 |
My current opinion (which changes all the time) 1) Brian May 2) Gary Moore 3) Yngwie Malmsteen 4) Zakk Wylde 5) Tony Iommi 6) Ritchie Blackmore 7) Eddie Van Halen 8) Kirk Hammett 9) Carlos Santana 10) Mick Jones |
Saif 19.09.2009 10:14 |
Well, based on technical skill, the ones I think to be among the best are:(not in any relevant order, they all rock) 1. Steve Vai 2. Joe Satriani 3. Paul Gilbert(when he was in Racer X) 4. John Petrucci 5. Yngwie Malmsteen 6. Mohammed Suicmez - Though, most of you guys will say he sucks since you won't like or "get" his music(Technical Death Metal, Necrophagist) 7. Michael Angelo Batio 8. Buckethead 9. Alexi Laiho 10. Marty Friedman Besides them I like Jeff Loomis, Django Reinhardt, Brian May(obviously), Eddie Van Halen, Dimebag Darrell(RIP brother), Richie Blackmore, Eric Johnson, Chris Poland, Chris Broderick, Bumblefoot, Jimmy Page, John Schaffer and so on. My FAVOURITE is probably Marty Friedman. I think David Gilmour and Kirk Hammett are two of the most overrated guitarists ever. I always feel that David Gilmour is only praised because he was in Pink Floyd. Roger Waters was the real genius in that group(and maybe Syd Barrett earlier on). |
mickyparise 19.09.2009 10:28 |
Rhandy Rhodes.........died to soon, and of course Hendrix...... |
Queen On Ice 19.09.2009 10:54 |
I don't wish to be a party pooper, but one question... Why is this topic in 'Queen - Serious Discussion'? Personal section surely? I just don't see why some people are 'lambasted' for posting threads in here when not specifically about Queen and some others do not. That's all. |
philip storey 19.09.2009 11:16 |
After reading a lot of what is so called "Serious Discusion" on these pages which basiclly involves the "serious" Queen fans sending bitchy messages to each other ! I find this sort of topic where we can listen to each others opinons quite refreshing. If you don't Sod you ! |
Queen On Ice 19.09.2009 11:52 |
philip storey wrote: After reading a lot of what is so called "Serious Discusion" on these pages which basiclly involves the "serious" Queen fans sending bitchy messages to each other ! I find this sort of topic where we can listen to each others opinons quite refreshing. If you don't Sod you ! Look at your post carefully. You find your discussion 'refreshing' because it is not about Queen fans 'bitching' at each other, then you go and say 'Sod you' to me. Hypocrisy by any chance? When all I did was RIGHTLY point out that this is not QUEEN - SERIOUS DISCUSSION. If you can tell me HOW voting for the top ten guitarists is SERIOUS DISCUSSION about QUEEN without bringing in what other people do in other threads, then I will accept your pathetic childish 'Sod you' outburst with humility. |
brENsKi 19.09.2009 12:04 |
ritchie blackmore - listen to late purple/early rainbow for how good he was, he also wrote most of purple's 70s songs david gilmour - amazing randy rhoads - played better on two "blizzard" albums than most managed in a lifetime tom scholtz - that great boston analogue sound eric clapton - god george harrison - extremely under- recogonised - late 60s pioneer gary moore - how did anyone leave him out? edward van halen - he does stuff most an only imagine alex lifeson - stunning in places |
mooghead 19.09.2009 12:21 |
Fred Durst link Brilliant. |
philip storey 19.09.2009 13:00 |
Hey i didn't mean to offend "sod you!" is taken from Rogers sleeve notes Fun In Space."Friends will be friends!" |
Queen On Ice 19.09.2009 13:43 |
philip storey wrote: Hey i didn't mean to offend "sod you!" is taken from Rogers sleeve notes Fun In Space."Friends will be friends!" Ok, fair enough now you say that, but it's an awfully obscure reference to expect someone to know it LOL - And I DO have Fun In Space myself too. I was not getting at you with my first post anyway, just the fact that some people make no serious discussion threads here and get blasted by many posters, while others seem to get away with it, and I just think that shows some favouritism - even if the ones that get blasted are trouble-makers or perceived trolls. |
philip storey 19.09.2009 14:22 |
You know that gooooood times are now ! |
queenside 19.09.2009 14:55 |
1 Brian May 2 Tony Iommi (riff god and also great solos) 3 Rory Gallagher (how come no one mentioned him, within few weeks i listen to him he became one of my all time fave guitarists) 4 Ritchie Blackmore 5 Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits, solo) 6 Angus Young (ac/dc) 7 Mathias Jabs (Scorpions) 8 Wolf Hoffmann (Accept) 9 Glenn Tipton (Judas Priest) 10 K.K. Downing (Judas Priest) |
Saif 19.09.2009 15:13 |
brENsKi wrote: ritchie blackmore - listen to late purple/early rainbow for how good he was, he also wrote most of purple's 70s songs david gilmour - amazing randy rhoads - played better on two "blizzard" albums than most managed in a lifetime tom scholtz - that great boston analogue sound eric clapton - god george harrison - extremely under- recogonised - late 60s pioneer gary moore - how did anyone leave him out? edward van halen - he does stuff most an only imagine alex lifeson - stunning in places Good call! Tom Scholz created the Rockman Amp just like John Deacon made the Deacy Amp and it has helped out many a musician find the right tone for their guitars. Besides he had a really unique guitar tone courtesy of his self-made Amp. He was a qualified engineer I think, kind of like Deacon. Really sad that Brad Delp died so soon and abruptly. I wasn't a big Boston fan but I have nice memories of listening to More Than a Feeling as a kid when I didn't know who it was by. :D |
QUEEN1985 19.09.2009 15:20 |
Saif wrote:brENsKi wrote: ritchie blackmore - listen to late purple/early rainbow for how good he was, he also wrote most of purple's 70s songs david gilmour - amazing randy rhoads - played better on two "blizzard" albums than most managed in a lifetime tom scholtz - that great boston analogue sound eric clapton - god george harrison - extremely under- recogonised - late 60s pioneer gary moore - how did anyone leave him out? edward van halen - he does stuff most an only imagine alex lifeson - stunning in placesGood call! Tom Scholz created the Rockman Amp just like John Deacon made the Deacy Amp and it has helped out many a musician find the right tone for their guitars. Besides he had a really unique guitar tone courtesy of his self-made Amp. He was a qualified engineer I think, kind of like Deacon. Really sad that Brad Delp died so soon and abruptly. I wasn't a big Boston fan but I have nice memories of listening to More Than a Feeling as a kid when I didn't know who it was by. :D Saif, sorry for the off-topic, but I see you are from India. Do you have any sales number for Queen in India or any other Asian country? |
iiiibrahiiim 19.09.2009 15:53 |
Well, based on technical skill, the ones I think to be among the best are:(not in any relevant order, they all rock) 1. Steve Vai 2. Joe Satriani 3. Paul Gilbert(when he was in Racer X) 4. John Petrucci 5. Yngwie Malmsteen I think David Gilmour and Kirk Hammett are two of the most overrated guitarists ever. I always feel that David Gilmour is only praised because he was in Pink Floyd. Roger Waters was the real genius in that group(and maybe Syd Barrett earlier on). Based on technical skill I'll agree about Gilmour. But the fact that some (including me) praise him is his extraordinary feeling (especially vibrato). I'd really like to hear those 5 guitarists above playing the Another Brick in the Wall guitar solo and compare. Even the solo from "The Final Cut" would reveal the difference. Like Dave Mustaine said what Yngwie can do with 12 notes, Gilmour can do with one. |
Angeline 19.09.2009 17:27 |
shazamrock wrote: Lindsey Buckingham lindsey buckingham in unbelievable if we are also talking about feeling. Has anyone heard Big Love live 1997. It will blow your mind. For me, Vai and Satriani are technically amazing but I would never put on my headphones and listen to them. I liked the 'guitar teacher' comment. Satriani's music makes me cringe, but I know I'm in no place to criticise and am definitely willing to accept that I may be missing something - the guitar is not an instrument I'm skilled at. |
Angeline 19.09.2009 17:28 |
Queen On Ice wrote:philip storey wrote: After reading a lot of what is so called "Serious Discusion" on these pages which basiclly involves the "serious" Queen fans sending bitchy messages to each other ! I find this sort of topic where we can listen to each others opinons quite refreshing. If you don't Sod you !Look at your post carefully. You find your discussion 'refreshing' because it is not about Queen fans 'bitching' at each other, then you go and say 'Sod you' to me. Hypocrisy by any chance? When all I did was RIGHTLY point out that this is not QUEEN - SERIOUS DISCUSSION. If you can tell me HOW voting for the top ten guitarists is SERIOUS DISCUSSION about QUEEN without bringing in what other people do in other threads, then I will accept your pathetic childish 'Sod you' outburst with humility. Eek - no flame wars but I agree, it's a personal section thread. |
Saif 19.09.2009 18:20 |
QUEEN1985 wrote:Saif wrote:Saif, sorry for the off-topic, but I see you are from India. Do you have any sales number for Queen in India or any other Asian country?brENsKi wrote: ritchie blackmore - listen to late purple/early rainbow for how good he was, he also wrote most of purple's 70s songs david gilmour - amazing randy rhoads - played better on two "blizzard" albums than most managed in a lifetime tom scholtz - that great boston analogue sound eric clapton - god george harrison - extremely under- recogonised - late 60s pioneer gary moore - how did anyone leave him out? edward van halen - he does stuff most an only imagine alex lifeson - stunning in placesGood call! Tom Scholz created the Rockman Amp just like John Deacon made the Deacy Amp and it has helped out many a musician find the right tone for their guitars. Besides he had a really unique guitar tone courtesy of his self-made Amp. He was a qualified engineer I think, kind of like Deacon. Really sad that Brad Delp died so soon and abruptly. I wasn't a big Boston fan but I have nice memories of listening to More Than a Feeling as a kid when I didn't know who it was by. :D The only thing I know is Queen's Greatest Hits is certified 1x Platinum(20,000 legal copies). That was an astonishing figure to me because Queen is not at all popular in India. The most foreign popular bands are Pink Floyd, Iron Maiden, Bon Jovi, Linkin Park, Dire Straits, ABBA and boy bands - Savage Garden, Westlife, Backstreet Boys, Blue, etc. Guns N' Roses also have a small fanbase. Queen is in the lowest of low tiers in terms of popularity. Led Zeppelin isn't that well-known in India but they're more popular. I'm pretty sure Michael Jackson's the only international artist who has sold more than 100,000 legal copies of any albums. To be honest Rock music makes up less than 1% of all album sales in India. I'm not kidding. Most people buy crappy, cookie-cutter Movie soundtracks which consist of recycled pop crap. Queen is much more popular in the rest of Asia, thankfully. Queen is arguably the most popular Western rock band in Japan, Korea and China. Possibly even Singapore and other Southeast Asian countries. |
QUEEN1985 19.09.2009 18:29 |
Saif, mate, thank you for your comment. Do you have any specific figure for any Queen album, notably their hit packages, in any Asian country like Indonesia, China and Korea? Also, would you mind letting me know your mail address? There is something I would like to ask you about, but this isn't the right place. |
Major Tom 20.09.2009 15:28 |
iiiibrahiiim wrote: Well, based on technical skill, the ones I think to be among the best are:(not in any relevant order, they all rock) 1. Steve Vai 2. Joe Satriani 3. Paul Gilbert(when he was in Racer X) 4. John Petrucci 5. Yngwie Malmsteen I think David Gilmour and Kirk Hammett are two of the most overrated guitarists ever. I always feel that David Gilmour is only praised because he was in Pink Floyd. Roger Waters was the real genius in that group(and maybe Syd Barrett earlier on). Based on technical skill I'll agree about Gilmour. But the fact that some (including me) praise him is his extraordinary feeling (especially vibrato). I'd really like to hear those 5 guitarists above playing the Another Brick in the Wall guitar solo and compare. Even the solo from "The Final Cut" would reveal the difference. Like Dave Mustaine said what Yngwie can do with 12 notes, Gilmour can do with one.Have you listened to the "Comfortably numb" solo from the "Pulse" DVD? Do that, then come back to me if you still think that he's overrated. |
Queenfan1995 20.09.2009 15:32 |
Brian may the edge mark knopfler mick jones peter townshead jimi hendrix david gilmor steve jones jimmi page keith levine |
The Real Wizard 20.09.2009 16:25 |
iiiibrahiiim wrote: I always feel that David Gilmour is only praised because he was in Pink FloydListen to his solo album from 1984 called About Face, where he reveals that he is much bigger than Pink Floyd. Maybe it'll give you a different idea of the guy's capabilities. Like Dave Mustaine said what Yngwie can do with 12 notes, Gilmour can do with one. Exactly... which is why I'll listen to Gilmour at least 12x more than either of those guys. |
Holly2003 20.09.2009 16:26 |
Andy Irvine, an Irish folk guitarist, could show some of the people mentioned here a thing or two. |
Micrówave 20.09.2009 19:37 |
Did someone really say "Buckethead"? |
The Real Wizard 20.09.2009 21:51 |
Micrówave wrote: Did someone really say "Buckethead"? Absolutely. He's an exceptional musician, with a wealth of work to show for it. |
teleman 20.09.2009 23:26 |
My usual fist choice is Jeff Beck but I really can never pick one guitarist as being better than the others because it can change on any given day. All it takes is one phrase that turns my ears inside out or evokes an emotional response. Every guitarist mentioned in this thread, whose name I recognize, has my respect as a musician and some have influenced me as a musician. I hope some of the guitarists(and other instrumentalists) on this forum will twist my ear with some good music. |
Saif 21.09.2009 00:16 |
Sir GH wrote:Micrówave wrote: Did someone really say "Buckethead"?Absolutely. He's an exceptional musician, with a wealth of work to show for it. Good to see that someone else likes him. A lot of people don't take him seriously because of the KFC bucket and mask. Me and my friends have had lots of fun in the past with KFC buckets. After finishing the chicken, we used to try and snap shots of ourselves dunking the bucket into unsuspecting friends. Good times. In the end, we all ended up with buckets on our heads once or twice at least. Buckethead rules. And BTW, Major Tom, I know Gilmour has a lot of feeling in his playing. I consider the Comfortably Numb guitar solo the greatest guitar solo. Dave Mustaine is spot on with the 1 note = 12 notes for Gilmour comment but he really is over-rated as a technical player which is what I based my list on in my original post. I'll stand by my original comment. David Gilmour isn't as overrated as say Kirk Hammett, though, who allegedly used all the guitar lessons he got from Satriani as riffs and solos in 'Tallica songs. When Joe found out, he stopped giving him lessons. |
mike hunt 22.09.2009 04:08 |
kirk hammet is overated, as is metallica in general. these little metallica fanboys think death magnetic is a great album, lol. If you want a great comeback metal album check out testament's "formation of damnation" the writing is way better than anything shitallica has done since 1989. |
dragon-fly 22.09.2009 04:53 |
1- Erick Clapton 2- Jeff Beck 3- Jimmy Page 4- Jimmy Hendrix 5- Brian May 6- Steve Vai 7- Eddie Van Halen 8- Tommi Iommi 9- Joe Satriani 10- Mathias Jabs |
lalaalalaa 22.09.2009 07:49 |
mike hunt wrote: kirk hammet is overated, as is metallica in general. these little metallica fanboys think death magnetic is a great album, lol. If you want a great comeback metal album check out testament's "formation of damnation" the writing is way better than anything shitallica has done since 1989. Same goes for Endgame- Megadeth. It's also a great album. Much better than most Metallica albums. |
Saif 22.09.2009 08:42 |
mike hunt wrote: kirk hammet is overated, as is metallica in general. these little metallica fanboys think death magnetic is a great album, lol. If you want a great comeback metal album check out testament's "formation of damnation" the writing is way better than anything shitallica has done since 1989.Yeah, I've heard that album. It's their first album in 9 years. Didn't think anyone in Queenzone would know Testament. You have good taste in music. Indeed, Metallica sucks. FUCK METALLICA! HAIL MEGADETH. Metallica stopped making relevant music after 1986. And of course, Megadeth's Endgame rocks! I had heard it nearly 20 days ago(it leaked). Original band albums are expensive here but Megadeth is a band I'm willing to support with money. |
Queenrockyou 22.09.2009 16:34 |
My own criteria would be guitarist who can produce a very unique sound, that can identify as soon as you hear it.... So, Brian May would be in the list obviously (if not I would not be here on this forum !!). But I think you could add Jeff Beck (good point Teleman), and Jimi Hendrix, without any doubt. Carlos Santana (Microwave's right), and Eric Clapton (God !). I'm OK with Gilmour as a sixth name to this list, as well as Jimmy Page obviously. Malmsteen is very impressive, you're right Peter, even if I prefer Paul Gilbert, much more "fun". Eddie Van Halen. Ritchie Blackmore. Steve Vai & Joe Satriani would be included, no matter what some think, if Jimi Hendrix is there, they contributed also a great lot to guitar playing. I only wonder how Steve Vai can produce those delicious sounds, no matter the quality of the SONGS, the quality of the MUSIC is far above a lot of the names quoted here, not only as far as technique is concerned but also regarding to the way it is written. A very special universe. John Petrucci, I wonder why it took so many posts before his name appeared here ! One point for you Iiiibrahiiim. Zakk Wylde and Slash would be there, but only in the top 20. Competition, men !! But hey, I can't find some names here.... Steve Morse ? Joe Perry ? Nuno Bettencourt (sorry, I think he was already quoted by someone) ? Steve Lukather ? Stevie Ray Vaughn ? John Lee Hooker ? Buddy Guy ? Well, for you Finnish out there, check this out : www.guitarheroes.fi . So goooood !!!! So faaaaast !!! And maybe some can recall Vito Bratta ? Would have been a great guitar player too, had his carreer been a little longer. On your google... get set... go !!! My thoughts go to Tesla's guitarists too, but maybe is it only their massive two-guitar sound... Well, clearly, I am not a man for a Top 10, but more for a Top 20 !!! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
iiiibrahiiim 22.09.2009 16:52 |
Last night I remembered another example of a good guitarist being replaced by technically freak guitarist and leaving the music behind. In 1993(?) I was lucky to attend a Deep Purple Concert of their "Battle Rages On"(?) - Tour with the one and only Ritchie Blackmore on guitar. All the band was at one's best. Ian Gillan had an incredible voice this night and the setlist was great too ("Child in Time",..) It was one of the top 5 concerts I've ever been. I was standing in 2nd row. A friend of mine in the 1st and shaked hands with Blackmore. I'm still a bit jealous. A few weeks later Blackmore and Gillan couldn't bear each other anymore so Blackmore left the band again and was replaced by Joe Satriani for the rest of the tour. Well, there are clips on Youtube about those concerts. You can watch them and decide who you prefer. Can we make a poll? Years later Steve Morse joined Deep Purple and I visited again a concert. I arrived there with good mood but this time I left really disappointed. Why he had to play pinch harmonics in almost every bar of "Smoke on the Water"? The solo I cannot remember... |
iiiibrahiiim 22.09.2009 17:01 |
ruth.olivier wrote: My own criteria would be guitarist who can produce a very unique sound, that can identify as soon as you hear it.... So, Brian May would be in the list obviously (if not I would not be here on this forum !!). But I think you could add Jeff Beck (good point Teleman), and Jimi Hendrix, without any doubt. Carlos Santana (Microwave's right), and Eric Clapton (God !). I'm OK with Gilmour as a sixth name to this list, as well as Jimmy Page obviously. Malmsteen is very impressive, you're right Peter, even if I prefer Paul Gilbert, much more "fun". Eddie Van Halen. Ritchie Blackmore. Steve Vai & Joe Satriani would be included, no matter what some think, if Jimi Hendrix is there, they contributed also a great lot to guitar playing. I only wonder how Steve Vai can produce those delicious sounds, no matter the quality of the SONGS, the quality of the MUSIC is far above a lot of the names quoted here, not only as far as technique is concerned but also regarding to the way it is written. A very special universe. John Petrucci, I wonder why it took so many posts before his name appeared here ! One point for you Iiiibrahiiim. Zakk Wylde and Slash would be there, but only in the top 20. Competition, men !! But hey, I can't find some names here.... Steve Morse ? Joe Perry ? Nuno Bettencourt (sorry, I think he was already quoted by someone) ? Steve Lukather ? Stevie Ray Vaughn ? John Lee Hooker ? Buddy Guy ? Hey man, you're much too kind! I didn't quote John Petrucci (I made a copy-mistake...cause didn't know how to quote one's message) It was Saif ...sorry Saif for misquoting;-) but I quoted Bettencourt...and before I read your post I quoted Steve Morse (though not in a praising way) and later I would have quoted Luke...cause I had a concert experience with Toto too. But I don't like so much of their songs.... |
mooghead 22.09.2009 17:23 |
"My own criteria would be guitarist who can produce a very unique sound, that can identify as soon as you hear it...." I could do that be stretching a piece of string across my living room. |
mooghead 22.09.2009 17:26 |
"Metallica stopped making relevant music after 1986." I think a definition is needed here. Name a Queen song that is relevant.. |
Saif 22.09.2009 23:38 |
mooghead wrote: "Metallica stopped making relevant music after 1986." I think a definition is needed here. Name a Queen song that is relevant..Bohemian Rhapsody, Killer Queen, stuff like that. Anything between Queen I - The Game and then I suppose Innuendo only. Sure, Metallica made some good and passable stuff after Master Of Puppets but most metal bands who claim influence from Metallica refer to the the 1981-86 period. The Black Album isn't even metal while ....And Justice For All was a watered down release compared to the MoP. |
mike hunt 23.09.2009 02:09 |
Saif wrote:mike hunt wrote: kirk hammet is overated, as is metallica in general. these little metallica fanboys think death magnetic is a great album, lol. If you want a great comeback metal album check out testament's "formation of damnation" the writing is way better than anything shitallica has done since 1989.Yeah, I've heard that album. It's their first album in 9 years. Didn't think anyone in Queenzone would know Testament. You have good taste in music. Indeed, Metallica sucks. FUCK METALLICA! HAIL MEGADETH. Metallica stopped making relevant music after 1986. And of course, Megadeth's Endgame rocks! I had heard it nearly 20 days ago(it leaked). Original band albums are expensive here but Megadeth is a band I'm willing to support with money. thanks, it's funny that kirk hamment gets mentioned as a great. How about testaments "scholnick" (Spelling?) he's a solid player with his own sound. I havn't listened to endgame yet, I'll have too check that one out. I do like megadeth much better than metallica these days. |
The Real Wizard 23.09.2009 11:44 |
mike hunt wrote: thanks, it's funny that kirk hamment gets mentioned as a great. How about testaments "scholnick" (Spelling?) he's a solid player with his own sound. Alex Skolnick takes Kirk Hammett to the cleaners in every way. He is a brilliant player. |
Saif 23.09.2009 12:37 |
mike hunt wrote:Saif wrote:thanks, it's funny that kirk hamment gets mentioned as a great. How about testaments "scholnick" (Spelling?) he's a solid player with his own sound. I havn't listened to endgame yet, I'll have too check that one out. I do like megadeth much better than metallica these days.mike hunt wrote: kirk hammet is overated, as is metallica in general. these little metallica fanboys think death magnetic is a great album, lol. If you want a great comeback metal album check out testament's "formation of damnation" the writing is way better than anything shitallica has done since 1989.Yeah, I've heard that album. It's their first album in 9 years. Didn't think anyone in Queenzone would know Testament. You have good taste in music. Indeed, Metallica sucks. FUCK METALLICA! HAIL MEGADETH. Metallica stopped making relevant music after 1986. And of course, Megadeth's Endgame rocks! I had heard it nearly 20 days ago(it leaked). Original band albums are expensive here but Megadeth is a band I'm willing to support with money. Yeah, like Sir GH has said Skolnick runs circles around Hammett. The sad thing is, today's retarded emo kids swoon all over Kirk Hammett like he's some sort of Guitar Lord... I remember I got into a mini-fight on YouTube with this 14 year-old metalcore scene freak just because I posted a link to Judas Priest's Breaking the Law asking him to learn about real metal after he commented that "ENTER SANDNAM IZ SO FCKIN DEEP NIGGA! BEST MEDAL RIFF EVER"(he was apparently talking about the first rhythm fill on that song). That kid was clearly retarded though, he posted on a Morbid Angel video(a death metal band) saying, "OMG!!! GAY!!! WHEREZ DA FUKIN BR00TAL SLAMZ MAN!? HOW KEN IT BE DETH METIL WITHOUT SLAMMIN BRAKEDOWNS?!?" Goddamn mallcore fags(I mean that with no offense to gay people) and their obsession with breakdowns. |
lalaalalaa 23.09.2009 12:40 |
Dave Mustaine is awesome. |
Saif 23.09.2009 14:36 |
lalaalalaa wrote: Dave Mustaine is awesome.Dave Mustaine is GOD. Skin O' My Teeth has helped me through tough times. A Tout Le Monde usually does that for most people but I love hanging on to the skin of my teeth. :P It's a shame that Endgame entered the Billboard Charts at #9 with 45k copies sold. Dave Mustaine deserves a #1. What Endgame sold is 1/10th of the first-week sales of Death Magnetic, an infinitely inferior album. It's a shame Slayer's new album seems like it's going to be crap. I had my hopes up for that one. |
lalaalalaa 23.09.2009 16:15 |
Saif wrote:lalaalalaa wrote: Dave Mustaine is awesome.Dave Mustaine is GOD. Skin O' My Teeth has helped me through tough times. A Tout Le Monde usually does that for most people but I love hanging on to the skin of my teeth. :P It's a shame that Endgame entered the Billboard Charts at #9 with 45k copies sold. Dave Mustaine deserves a #1. What Endgame sold is 1/10th of the first-week sales of Death Magnetic, an infinitely inferior album. It's a shame Slayer's new album seems like it's going to be crap. I had my hopes up for that one. Endgame didn't hit number 1????? CRAP. What does a good band have to do to get a number 1?????????? There isn't a bad song on that album. This country (America) is the worst when it comes to music. |
mike hunt 24.09.2009 02:10 |
Saif wrote:mike hunt wrote:Yeah, like Sir GH has said Skolnick runs circles around Hammett. The sad thing is, today's retarded emo kids swoon all over Kirk Hammett like he's some sort of Guitar Lord... I remember I got into a mini-fight on YouTube with this 14 year-old metalcore scene freak just because I posted a link to Judas Priest's Breaking the Law asking him to learn about real metal after he commented that "ENTER SANDNAM IZ SO FCKIN DEEP NIGGA! BEST MEDAL RIFF EVER"(he was apparently talking about the first rhythm fill on that song). That kid was clearly retarded though, he posted on a Morbid Angel video(a death metal band) saying, "OMG!!! GAY!!! WHEREZ DA FUKIN BR00TAL SLAMZ MAN!? HOW KEN IT BE DETH METIL WITHOUT SLAMMIN BRAKEDOWNS?!?" Goddamn mallcore fags(I mean that with no offense to gay people) and their obsession with breakdowns.Saif wrote:thanks, it's funny that kirk hamment gets mentioned as a great. How about testaments "scholnick" (Spelling?) he's a solid player with his own sound. I havn't listened to endgame yet, I'll have too check that one out. I do like megadeth much better than metallica these days.mike hunt wrote: kirk hammet is overated, as is metallica in general. these little metallica fanboys think death magnetic is a great album, lol. If you want a great comeback metal album check out testament's "formation of damnation" the writing is way better than anything shitallica has done since 1989.Yeah, I've heard that album. It's their first album in 9 years. Didn't think anyone in Queenzone would know Testament. You have good taste in music. Indeed, Metallica sucks. FUCK METALLICA! HAIL MEGADETH. Metallica stopped making relevant music after 1986. And of course, Megadeth's Endgame rocks! I had heard it nearly 20 days ago(it leaked). Original band albums are expensive here but Megadeth is a band I'm willing to support with money. a little love for my man skolnick, I love it. I guess his best is "the new ordor" but the first 3 testament albums were great. also live in london he shows what he's made of. Hopefully he stays in testament for a another album or two. you mentioned slayer, I'm not giving up on the new album yet. I heard 2 songs. One decent song, but that hate worldwide tune doesn't do anything for me. |
Queenrockyou 25.09.2009 04:05 |
We were talking about Zakk Wylde... He has just announced that he parted company with Ozzy Osbourne. So we should now follow Black Label Society, and see what happens ! Regards; Olivier, Belgium. |
ParisNair 25.09.2009 04:38 |
Saif wrote: Queen is in the lowest of low tiers in terms of popularity. Led Zeppelin isn't that well-known in India but they're more popular. I'm pretty sure Michael Jackson's the only international artist who has sold more than 100,000 legal copies of any albums. To be honest Rock music makes up less than 1% of all album sales in India. I'm not kidding. Most people buy crappy, cookie-cutter Movie soundtracks which consist of recycled pop crap. Sad, but true. Great thread! |
Marcelo_argentina 26.09.2009 16:17 |
Thinking in a mix among emotion/technique/melody/originality I'd say 1-Brian May 2-Slash 3-Steve Vai 4-Jimmy Hendrix 5-Yngwie Malsteen ..... I have chosen this 5 musicians just because you recognaise em when you listen only one chord! |
12yrslouetta 26.09.2009 19:08 |
sorry to be all boring but i just had to say this. any guitarist who was around was blown away by jimi hendrix, and that includes all the greats, from clapton, to townsend, to page, to collins (one of the greatest). he took the playing of the guitar to another level. No one had heard anything like it. i guess it depends where youre coming from. robert johnson took the guitar to another level many years before, just as eddie van halen did in another era. BUT saying all of that brian may is brillaint and hugely respected by his peers which has to count for something. Anyway, there you go |
mike hunt 28.09.2009 00:44 |
even blues players like bb king thought hendrix was the best guitarist ever. Slash?....come on guys!....let's be real. Hendrix vs slash?....I understand it's mostly opinions, but sometimes you have to use common sense. |
PauloPanucci 28.09.2009 17:19 |
Marcelo_argentina wrote: Thinking in a mix among emotion/technique/melody/originality I'd say 1-Brian May 2-Slash 3-Steve Vai 4-Jimmy Hendrix 5-Yngwie Malsteen ..... I have chosen this 5 musicians just because you recognaise em when you listen only one chord! i prefer put John Petrucci on slash position! |
Marcelo_argentina 28.09.2009 22:19 |
Hi QueenPaulo, you can do whatever you want to do, it's just a forum, you can express how you feel...let me just add, that, what slash makes me feel when I listen to him, Jimmy Hendrix simply does not in "the same emotional level", is not a matter of common sense, it just a matter of "own sense", isnt it? ...enjoy yoursefl! |
Matias Merçeauroix 21.10.2009 22:07 |
The most important statement before starting: Jimmy Page can't play. At all. Never could, never will. Then, I don't think you could make a true top ten ranking, but I'll give it a shot. 1- Steve Vai, God of the Universe. Best left hand EVER. That's it, the others are not in order: Eric Johnson for amazingly clever phrasing, playing and all the things he takes from other styles and blends into his own. Not only ridiculously clean but also very articulate. And, also very important, he created a very innovative style, very personal. Which not many can do, because it's not just the way he plays but also all the things he puts into the songs and how he applies certain techniques to certain styles of music. True genius. One of a kind. John Petrucci. Spectacular playing. Even tho his phrasing is not as good as Vai's or Johnson's, it still kick ass. Veeeery clean and great use of different timbres. Really great. Paul Gilbert. Even tho I don't personally like his lines. Unbelievable picking technique and immaculate fingering. It's funny how he seems to play his string skipping licks with such ease that he makes them seem easy to play. Shawn Lane. There is not much to say. He's pretty much inhuman on everything. And Brian May, of course. For many reasons. First of all, being that he can play most of guitar techniques and his phrasing, which is totally out of this world. Not only in terms of playing but also for his perfect use of different timbres and his completely unusual way of playing certain lines. Brilliant, absolutely original. Even tho he completely sucked in The Cosmos Rocks. And then, I dunno... I can't think of others. I could say Nuno Bettencourt, maybe. There are lots, of course, I just can't think of any others right now. But people like Malsteen, Satriani and many others... I dunno. Great players, amazing players... but I listen to them and it seems like they're playing over a backing track. Specially Malmsteen. They don't get into the song as those other ones (except Gilbert, but he's mind-blowing). What I mean is that, I've never heard people playing songs the way Steve Vai does. He sometimes plays the same melody over and over on a song, and he's constantly changing the way of playing the piece. Like he's always thinking how to play each melody, each section. And sometimes he's completely un-guitaristic with his lines and his fingerings and how he plays every part of a song, you can tell when he's playing. He never goes the easy way, but HIS way, with absolutely incredible technique. And that makes him the most clever player I've ever heard. Jimmy Page also plays his lines in a different way every time, yet he manages to always sound the same: CRAP. Cheers to all. |
Sheer Brass Neck 21.10.2009 22:13 |
Nuno Bettencourt is the man. Amazing rhythm, and arguably more influenced by Brian than anyone else regarding his lead playing. Check out some stuff from Extreme's last tour on YouTube. He is ridiculously talented. |
redspecialusa 21.10.2009 22:33 |
My top 10 Guitarists: -Brian May -Roy Buchanan -Jimi Hendrix -Frank Zappa -Jeff Beck -Freddie King -Chet Atkins -Andres Segovia -Wes Montgomery -Phil Keaggy |
redspecialusa 21.10.2009 22:35 |
redspecialusa wrote: My top 10 Guitarists: -Brian May -Roy Buchanan -Jimi Hendrix -Frank Zappa -Jeff Beck -Freddie King -Chet Atkins -Andres Segovia -Wes Montgomery -Phil Keaggy If we were talking about rock: then surely Clapton, Gilmour, Iommi, & Blackmore would be on that list. But Jimmy Page?! FUCK NO! HE IS OVERRATED. |
Libor2 24.10.2009 20:31 |
Well, maybe I looked it over, but nobody had mentioned Steve Hackett? Umm, strange. And yes, Brian ig good enoug, although probably not the best. If I could name some great guitar players (without saying, who's the best), they'd be there: Eric Clapton, Brian May, Steve Hackett, Steve Howe, Ritchie Blackmore, Jimmy Page, Dave Gilmour and Tommy Iommi. Vai, Satriani, Romeo, Petrucci, Malmsteen etc. are fine, but speed isn't all. |
Matias Merçeauroix 24.10.2009 21:42 |
Well, that last statement only proves you've probably NEVER listened to Steve Vai. |
Sebastian 24.10.2009 22:34 |
Assuming we're only about rock guitarists, then: 1. Joe Satriani 2. Steve Vai 3. Yngwie Malmsteen 4. Paul Gilbert Then, in no particular order: Buckethead, Petrucci, Howe, Johnson, Beck and maybe Carlton. |
mike hunt 27.10.2009 01:03 |
Freddie mercury is the best guitarist ever!....His guitar work on CLTCL is amazing! |
tcc 27.10.2009 09:56 |
mike hunt wrote: Freddie mercury is the best guitarist ever!....His guitar work on CLTCL is amazing! But he only knew three notes ! That's what he said :-) |
Sebastian 27.10.2009 11:27 |
Notes and chords are not the same. And of course he meant that tongue in cheek... FYI, when Fred said 'I dress to kill' he didn't mean he was a murderer. |
Amazon 02.12.2009 13:52 |
For me the ten best would be in no specific order, apart from the top spot: 1)Jimi Hendrix 2)Jeff Beck 2)Brian May 2)Jimmy Page 2)Eric Clapton 2)Eddie Van Halen 2)Frank Zappa 2)Eddie Hazel 2)David Gilmour 2)Stevie Ray Vaughn 2 honourable mentions: Chuck Berry (I think he was better than Robert Johnson and he was certainly as influential as Johnson) and George Harrison (one of my favourite musicians and my favourite Beatle). Tony Iommi, Carlos Santana, Keith Richards, Mark Knopfler, Steve Vai and Steve Howe are others who are unlucky to miss out. Also Ritchie Blackmore and Duanne Alman. |