| Soul Brother 11.09.2009 13:56 |
1) Played Sun City 2) Collaborated with 5ive 3) Decided that it was a good idea to release 'Greatest Hits 3' 4) Come up with 'The Miracle' album cover 5) Written and performed 'Cool Cat' Any thoughts/additions/different takes? Was unsure what to drop for the Breathru video but decided to leave those 5 in there! |
| mike hunt 11.09.2009 14:10 |
well, I like cool cat, so you could change that, lol. For me queen were from 1971 to 1991 or 95, so I'll keep within those years. 1. let roger's songs be on Jazz, his 2 songs bring down the album 2. lets loser in the end be on queen2 3. release body language as a single 4. hot space should have been like the live version, heavier. |
| Russian Headlong 11.09.2009 14:12 |
1. Turning away from their heavy metal roots in the 80's by releasing pop crap like Hot Space and other awful lightweight drivel. 2.The 5ive collaboration. 3. The Robbie Williams Collaboration (note 2 and 3 can only really be blamed on Brian and Roger) 4. Freddie had come out and said he had aids earlier. Holly Johnson and Magic Johnson both were HIV positive, perhaps, just perhaps earlier awareness may have stopped him having full blown aids or slowed his illness 5. Belouis Some supporting at Knebworth, truly fucking terrible. |
| Angeline 11.09.2009 15:14 |
I love Hot Space - it was mildly disappointing from Queen, but is in general a great album. Cool Cat is a chilled-out sng and I love it, it reminds me of cocktails in the sun. 1. If you can't beat em on Jazz (I really hate it) and 'In Only Seven Days' and More of That Jazz. 2. Freddie wearing breasts on stage in Brazil. [3. Not going through with freddie's idea of riding a giant cock into a mustachioed mouth over wembley stadium 1986 (tehee).] 3. Choosing wrong record label in US who didn't promote them properly. 4. Freddie not having protected sex. 5. Sorry but everything after Made In Heaven. |
| mike hunt 11.09.2009 15:33 |
freddie not having protection while having sex isn't a Queen decision, it was plain stupid. waste of talent. freddie is probably saying the same thing from the other side, though no ones perfect, so lets not Judge. i could make the same stupid mistake....hot space was disapointing, but it's still a fun album. cool cat is among freddie's best vocal performances IMO... I think almost everything post freddie (I like made in heaven) is not very good. One big mess. |
| Angeline 11.09.2009 15:36 |
I know, I meant from the effect it had on Queen (as in QPR, Robbie Williams etc would never have happened), but yes your right, technically it's not appropriate. My tongue was firmly wedged in my cheek anyhow |
| mike hunt 11.09.2009 15:38 |
I know |
| lalaalalaa 11.09.2009 15:44 |
I wish they made more of an attempt with Flash Gordon :P |
| Bo Rhap 11.09.2009 15:59 |
The Hot Space album Allowing John Farham near We Will Rock You Freddie dying of Aids(what a waste of fabulous talent) The collabaration with 5ive Allowing Robbie Williams anywhere near a Freddie song |
| vadenuez 11.09.2009 16:58 |
Queen should've never... ... included film excerpts in the Flash Gordon album, flawing an interesting instrumental soundtrack with speeches from a movie no one remembers or watches anymore. ... included The Loser in the End in Queen II. ... thought that The Miracle cover was a good idea. ... thought that plaguing GH3 with solo music was the concept of what a GH albums should be. ... decided to keep calling themselves Queen after 1995. As a result, every single mistake they done onwards got the fancy 'Queen' label stuck on it. |
| onevsion 11.09.2009 20:07 |
1 Put "Leaving Home Ain't Easy" on record. Terrible song. 2 Have the same setlist over and over again within a tour. I wish they would have had a more roling setlist 3 Release most post Made In heaven crap 4 Not videotape the feeds from the big screens from concerts like Knebworth 1986 5 Hire Greg Brooks. |
| PauloPanucci 11.09.2009 22:07 |
decided to make the Hot Space album |
| JacquesDaniels 11.09.2009 23:41 |
Another negatively energetic topic. Hooray. Just to keep in mind that it really is a matter opinion on this particular topic, I'll try to voice my thoughts as personally as I can, without any reference to reality and the current happenings whatsoever. But I have to defend Queen's rights as artists in a couple of things first. To quote Freddie about Hot Space, "it's only a bloody record..." To be sure, as is evident enough even today, people tend to get way too excited about relatively unimportant things that are beyond their control. I happen to like it all the more for the reason that so many of you guys hate it. But it's definitely more interesting, musically speaking, than any Queen members' solo efforts (sans Barcelona) and definitely stands on its own however awkwardly. Music is an artform, it's meant to cause feelings. The extremer, the better. If it doesn't raise your ire or earn your esteem, and instead causes a bland "meh", then it has failed in its mission. Most of modern music is such. Same goes for the Miracle cover art, really. You can form a definite opinion of it, hence it works. If it can be horribly bad in someone's opinion, then logically it is brilliant in someone else's. I don't love it, but at least it's different. Anyway, my Top 5 Things I Wish Queen HADN'T Done... 5. Release Live Magic, when they could have just as well released the Wembley show in its stead in 1986. Or perhaps even compile a full length live album of the tour, in a similar vein to Live Killers, but with comprehensive liner notes. On that note, they should've put more information on Live Killers as well. 4. Written so many blatantly regular straightforward rock songs. Instead they could have explored the progressive, ethnic, folk and classical approaches to their music a lot more. Not to mention, the r'n'b/funk/disco material. Without synths and drum machines. 3. Released so many uncalled for compilation albums. 2. Waited until the last possible minute to release the so-called bookend material. 1. Quit existing as the entity of the original four. Unfortunately, some things could not be avoided. |
| dragon-fly 12.09.2009 05:21 |
Right now I can remember just two: - release "Body Language" as a single - a lot what happend after 1997 |
| peterkoz1 12.09.2009 06:53 |
what the Boys did in there personal life remains for them to decide but music/production here goes: 1: invisible man (absolute trash) 2: not release knebworth 3: terrible video for WATC 4: terrible video for dont stop me now 5 Absolute Greatest ?? whats the point |
| Holly2003 12.09.2009 09:07 |
Lots of bits and pieces, but mainly I wish they had saved their solo careers until after Queen finished. If a lot of the solo songs they worked on were given the Queen treatment, we (probably) would've had better quality albums in the 1980s, double studio albums, better b-sides etc. I also wish they wouldn't have relied so much on synths in the 1980s. It made them lazy. Can't imagine Brian making the work of genius that is 'Good Company' in quite the same way if the 'no synths' policy wasn't operating. |
| ok.computer 12.09.2009 09:08 |
Folks, gotta get over the negativity about the endless compilations. Once a band splits, someone dies, they quit, whatever, the compilation is the main method of keeping the existing music recycled. It's pure marketing. Nothing more. Not everyone is the dedicated fan that we purport to be. "5. Release Live Magic, when they could have just as well released the Wembley show in its stead in 1986." Marketing again. This was at a time - which is kinda still there - that double albums simply didn't sell big. |
| john bodega 12.09.2009 09:08 |
Shitty collaborations. There's more than 5 so I don't need to elaborate. |
| PauloPanucci 12.09.2009 09:39 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Shitty collaborations. There's more than 5 so I don't need to elaborate. yah... how i forghot about collaborations.... it was so bad too! |
| coops 12.09.2009 10:03 |
1. Leotards 2. Between-song banter like "You lot of old tarts", "were gonna do something in the funk, black catagory", "We were gonna have an oechestra" etc etc. Just sing already. 3. Kashoggis ship, Party, Hitman. 4. The video for Backchat 5. Those awful mimed performances in San Marino |
| dragon-fly 12.09.2009 11:21 |
For me, things like leotards and "old tarts" are the whole fun of Queen :) |
| Angeline 12.09.2009 12:44 |
The video for Backchat is hilarious - but I thought it wasn't released at the time, no? Surely they've done worse things... |
| QUEENexpert 12.09.2009 13:22 |
here are 5 things i wish roger hadnt done. 1.)had sex before marriage 2.)cheated on his girlfriends. 3.)decided to marry dominique 4.)cheated on his girlfriends 5.)used his temper to get i'm in love with my car the b-side to bo rhap and i do realize i said cheated on his girlfriends twice |
| catqueen 12.09.2009 15:05 |
1. Not keeping so much of their old, unused material, both songs and video footage. 2.Rereleasing Greatest Hits innumerable times instead of pushing their original albums more. 3. Changing names of different releases of the same thing - there are two live in Rio dvds with different names and different pictures on the covers. I looked at the newer one and there is no indication that it was remastered or anything, seemed to be exactly the same. 4. Bonus material on dvds could be more unique - one dvd has about 9 tracks of a concert in Japan, which is great, but there were only 14 or 15 tracks in the release of the Japanese concert, meaning that you're stuck paying for intro, WWRY, WATC and God Save the Queen and only a couple of others if you get the Japanese dvd. 5. tempted to say TCR, but I am glad they toured and I like bits of the album, I don't wish it hadn't been done, I just wish it had been done differently. |
| Saint Jiub 14.09.2009 00:20 |
Release Montreal for the 47th time. Announce intent to release 4 live concerts on video. Announce intent to release BBC sessions. Continually delay the box sets. Release of the recycled 4 volume Singles box sets. Bonus answer: Hire Greg Brooks. |
| mike hunt 14.09.2009 01:37 |
Obviously, The boxsets is right up there. What the hell are they waiting for?....Queen productions isn't even talking about the boxsets anymore. It's gonna be at least another 5 years. |
| ILoveQueen20 14.09.2009 06:58 |
" I Deleted" |
| FlorianS 14.09.2009 07:59 |
I am just talking about Queen as Brian, Freddie, Roger and John and not about the time after 1991: -Playing Sun City -Releasing Hot Space -Loosing interest in the USA -Releasing Pain is so close to Pleasure as single in the US instead of a kind of Magic -Too many pop songs in the 80s |
| Togg 14.09.2009 08:38 |
In no particular order... Produced themselves on News of the World Recorded Body Language Given up on the USA Stopped touring in 86 Taken so long to get back playing again |
| Angeline 14.09.2009 09:54 |
ILoveQueen20 wrote: (Only my Opinon) I have seen SO many thread's critizing Queen and their music! I'm Sorry but what is the actual point in this thread?? Queen have already done what they did & you can't change it (aka the past!) THINK about it if they had'nt of made those "mistakes" or "bad songs" mabey everyhting about them would be different mabey they woudl of been a bad band! :-O, they learned from their mistakes & atleast they were experimental some things worked other things did'nt (just like with all bands) Why dont u discuss your favourite Queen songs ect nstead of beinf so darn negative about Queen Lighten up a little bit, huh? |
| ILoveQueen20 14.09.2009 10:09 |
Angeline wrote: ILoveQueen20 wrote: (Only my Opinon) I have seen SO many thread's critizing Queen and their music! I'm Sorry but what is the actual point in this thread?? Queen have already done what they did & you can't change it (aka the past!) THINK about it if they had'nt of made those "mistakes" or "bad songs" mabey everyhting about them would be different mabey they woudl of been a bad band! :-O, they learned from their mistakes & atleast they were experimental some things worked other things did'nt (just like with all bands) Why dont u discuss your favourite Queen songs ect nstead of beinf so darn negative about QueenLighten up a little bit, huh? Haha well I'll try that in future thanks! xD! but I wrote that when I was annoyed earlyer, but whatever people can say what they like and I did say "IMO" ,Sorry. |
| ILoveQueen20 14.09.2009 10:11 |
Lighten up a little bit, huh? Haha well I'll try that in future thanks! xD! but I wrote that when I was annoyed earlyer, but whatever people can say what they like and I did say "IMO" ,Sorry. |
| PauloPanucci 14.09.2009 16:29 |
i didn't like HotSpace(don't mean i don't like, it is just the worst Queen album)... but have many people here who critize all Queen stuffs, it's not good! I don't like people how enter in a queen Forum to say crap of Queen! We have to know what say!ILoveQueen20 wrote: (Only my Opinon) I have seen SO many thread's critizing Queen and their music! I'm Sorry but what is the actual point in this thread?? Queen have already done what they did & you can't change it (aka the past!) THINK about it if they had'nt of made those "mistakes" or "bad songs" mabey everyhting about them would be different mabey they woudl of been a bad band! :-O, they learned from their mistakes & atleast they were experimental some things worked other things did'nt (just like with all bands) Why dont u discuss your favourite Queen songs ect nstead of beinf so darn negative about Queen |
| doxonrox 15.09.2009 00:39 |
lalaalalaa wrote: I wish they made more of an attempt with Flash Gordon :P I wish they made NO attempt with Flash Gordon. |
| doxonrox 15.09.2009 00:45 |
JacquesDaniels wrote: Another negatively energetic topic. Hooray. Just to keep in mind that it really is a matter opinion on this particular topic, I'll try to voice my thoughts as personally as I can, without any reference to reality and the current happenings whatsoever. But I have to defend Queen's rights as artists in a couple of things first. To quote Freddie about Hot Space, "it's only a bloody record..." To be sure, as is evident enough even today, people tend to get way too excited about relatively unimportant things that are beyond their control. I happen to like it all the more for the reason that so many of you guys hate it. But it's definitely more interesting, musically speaking, than any Queen members' solo efforts (sans Barcelona) and definitely stands on its own however awkwardly. Music is an artform, it's meant to cause feelings. The extremer, the better. If it doesn't raise your ire or earn your esteem, and instead causes a bland "meh", then it has failed in its mission. Most of modern music is such. Same goes for the Miracle cover art, really. You can form a definite opinion of it, hence it works. If it can be horribly bad in someone's opinion, then logically it is brilliant in someone else's. I don't love it, but at least it's different. Anyway, my Top 5 Things I Wish Queen HADN'T Done... 5. Release Live Magic, when they could have just as well released the Wembley show in its stead in 1986. Or perhaps even compile a full length live album of the tour, in a similar vein to Live Killers, but with comprehensive liner notes. On that note, they should've put more information on Live Killers as well. 4. Written so many blatantly regular straightforward rock songs. Instead they could have explored the progressive, ethnic, folk and classical approaches to their music a lot more. Not to mention, the r'n'b/funk/disco material. Without synths and drum machines. 3. Released so many uncalled for compilation albums. 2. Waited until the last possible minute to release the so-called bookend material. 1. Quit existing as the entity of the original four. Unfortunately, some things could not be avoided. Oh piss, another negative energy topic. Let's piss on everyone that's posted, and then let me piss on my own five things I wish Queen hadn't done. Get off your soapbox, hypocrite. You've just made a fool of yourself. |
| Grantcdn1 15.09.2009 01:20 |
1-thinking they were Invincible and could put out substandard material after The Game.....(Flash, Hot Space, filler on Magic) 2-the Hot Space album (should have been shelved until they had much better material - what were they thinking??!! invincible?) 3- Break Free Video in drag for USA (killed them in US)2nd single should have been Hammer to Fall 4 - No Heavy Rock single like Hammer to Fall immediately after Break Free (would have been their life support - when Hammer was released it was too late) 5 - Freddie contracting AIDS - not a Queen thing but likely a personal lifestyle decision - carelessness 5+ Not working extra hard to create even more material with Freddie before he died....allowing the Made In Heaven album to include previously released Freddie solo songs and B sides....for me there are only 5 songs on that cd.....and no rocking songs at all - sad... More: Not doing at least one live performance with the Miracle songs - even a benefit concert of some kind or a special London show would have been great....or a tv special....realize it would have been impossible for Innuendo |
| Grantcdn1 15.09.2009 01:28 |
ahh yes -even more - Not touring North America after 82.....(really glad at least Roger and Brian came back as QPR) for one of the comments above Florea (Sp?) A kind of Magic was released in the US and Canada Pain is so Close to Pleasure was also released to radio after..... btw shame that cd wasn't stronger - the Highlander songs were amazing as was One Vision...and then the other songs were filler....Don't Lose Your Head is actually much better as the instrumental A Dozen Red Roses for My Darling (highlander) - the vocals actually takes away from the music....lost their heads I guess |
| john bodega 15.09.2009 01:44 |
I wish they hadn't lowered their standards. 25 years ago, Freddie was doing coke. The best Brian can do is Pepsi. |
| Micrówave 15.09.2009 02:23 |
I wish Queen hadn't: 1) let Freddie break up with Mary 2) dropped out of school 3) replaced Roger with a drum machine 4) put vaseline all over themselves for a music video 5) cut their hair |
| tcc 15.09.2009 03:57 |
1. Sitting on their bottoms with regard to releasing CDs/DVDs of their old concerts e.g. Houston 1977 2. Creating stocks of unsold vinyl releases, singles box sets, Absolute Greatest Hits (old materials) 3. Diverting attention from releasing new materials of old concerts to clearing stocks as stated in (2) above 4. Tolerating a staff who comes to a fan site to scold the fans instead of speaking nicely to them (the customer is king) :-) |
| mike hunt 15.09.2009 04:02 |
I couldn't blame greg for coming here to put down the fans. The so called fans on Queenzone are a bunch of miserable SOB's. Complain about everything, put down the band members on a regular basis, put down majority of the music.... I'm glad greg comes on Queenzone to dish out a little love to the losers on this site. |
| Angeline 15.09.2009 04:47 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I wish they hadn't lowered their standards. 25 years ago, Freddie was doing coke. The best Brian can do is Pepsi. hahahahahahaha Almost as good as the Sun City post. |
| Angeline 15.09.2009 04:55 |
mike hunt wrote: I couldn't blame greg for coming here to put down the fans. The so called fans on Queenzone are a bunch of miserable SOB's. Complain about everything, put down the band members on a regular basis, put down majority of the music.... I'm glad greg comes on Queenzone to dish out a little love to the losers on this site. Personally (although I do not consider myself to be one of those miserable SOBs) I find the more I love or admire something, the more critically reflective I tend to become - I like to be assured my passions aren't slipping into dogma. Like the way one is harsher on one's family or one's partner. But I agree to the extent that it is boring to listen to miserable people moan and rant. HOWEVER - surely you cannot deny that some people just have no sense of humour - some of the jokes here are hugely funny, often I take them as meant as a criticism or a piss-take of those that don't 'get' them, rather than the band itself. |
| ILoveQueen20 15.09.2009 05:57 |
Angeline wrote:
ILoveQueen20 wrote: (Only my Opinon) I have seen SO many thread's critizing Queen and their music! I'm Sorry but what is the actual point in this thread?? Queen have already done what they did & you can't change it (aka the past!) THINK about it if they had'nt of made those "mistakes" or "bad songs" mabey everyhting about them would be different mabey they woudl of been a bad band! :-O, they learned from their mistakes & atleast they were experimental some things worked other things did'nt (just like with all bands) Why dont u discuss your favourite Queen songs ect nstead of beinf so darn negative about QueenLighten up a little bit, huh? Welll actaully Im kinda not "sorry" cos it's IMO afterall, telling me to "lighten up" whens its MY OWN OPINION, wait... so 'm not allowed to express my opinions & people critizing their "Fav" band are?? erm Ok.... & "cut their hair" Haha I agree! still atleast F.M grew that legendary tash to make up for it!!!!!! xD! |
| Angeline 15.09.2009 06:06 |
Can I repeat myself? Lighten up, it's all in good humour. Including this comment. |
| Angeline 15.09.2009 06:10 |
Sorry to be pedantic, truly I mean you no harm, but... One can only really suggest that someone lightens up in relation to say, their outlook on life or their opinions. No one can lighten up fact. If you had said what you were saying was FACT and NOT in your own opinion, then I would have said you were wrong, or right. Not lighten up. Anyway I was feeling pretty light when I said it, with a twinkle in my cyber eye. Wish I hadn't bothered. |
| ILoveQueen20 15.09.2009 07:10 |
Ok.....Well I just could'nt tell what you meant "by lighten up" when you said it thats all, and how am I meant to know it was a jokey's, text can't tell emotion! lol Well I'll try & see it as humour in future! XD |
| Angeline 15.09.2009 07:19 |
I'm mostly humorous! x |
| LucTonnerre 15.09.2009 10:33 |
1. QUEEN DANCE TRAXX2. QUEEN ROCK MONTREAL3. QUEEN + FIVE4. COMPILATIONS LIKE QUEEN ROCKS, THE SINGLES BOXES (on vinyl this would have made some sense after all) or ABSOLUTE GREATEST5. THE WHOLE PAUL RODGERS CRAP |
| Yara 15.09.2009 11:23 |
I can't think of anything, really. I find joy even in the poorest material. For sure there are things I wished they had done way better, but ultimately I'm glad they did exactly what they did, musically speaking. |
| A Word In Your Ear 17.09.2009 17:44 |
1. Get stuck in a rut with the set list for the 2008 tour. 2. Not ( supposedly ) keeping the footage of Freddies last Queen Gig at knebworth 3. Not tease us with that they are going to release a box set one billion years ago. 4. Keep releasing "Rehashes" of stuff we already have. 5. Sing "Meoww" on a Queen Track. |
| PauloPanucci 17.09.2009 19:05 |
not Queen, But Freddie have taken AIDS ): |
| rodge-fred-bri-deaky 20.09.2009 18:06 |
5. (Freddie) whoever the hell had HIV. 4. (roger) Looked ridiculously feminine in the mid 70s 3. (Roger) Not released Two Sharp pencils (XD)or One Night Stand 2.(John) retired 1.(Roger) given my friends cause to call him gay (cos of the falsetto and throwing hissy fits where he locked himself in cupboards etc. etc.) |
| rodge-fred-bri-deaky 20.09.2009 18:08 |
Someone's jealous. |
| mechaman89 21.09.2009 02:02 |
1)not giving me 2 free tickets 2 see them at Kemper Arena in 82... 2)release A Kind Of Magic...???.I was all ready for a new Queen album in 86,but instead of a studio album,we got the Highlander soundtrack and 1 song from Iron Eagle that had already been released as a single the year before,plus my 2 absolute least favorite Queen songs. |