| catqueen 29.08.2009 13:12 |
Just a question - this is probably very basic info, but I was just wondering about it. At the end of Seven Seas of Rhye they sing 'O i do like to be beside the seaside...'. I was just wondering, is that only the four voices of Queen or is someone else singing too? I was listening to it today and just wondered. Also, what does he 'seven seas of rhye' refer to? Sorry for the very basic question, I'd just like to know for sure. Thanks! |
| QUEENexpert 29.08.2009 14:36 |
I'm pretty sure Freddie and his sister Kashmira had a magical land called Rhye that they made up when they were kids and he wrote it about that. i think, i'm not 100% sure. and i don't know if thats just the members of Queen or not. Very good question though. |
| Major Tom 29.08.2009 16:16 |
As far as I know, 'O i do like to be beside the seaside...' is an old English folk(please correct me if I'm wrong). It also starts "Brighton Rock" on the album that follows... |
| catqueen 30.08.2009 09:16 |
Thanks for the replies! i thought seven seas of rhye had some deep symbolic meaning or something, maybe not! And yes, I do like to be beside the seaside is part of an old song, i was just wondering about the voices on it. I couldn't make out who it was singing (there are a few places where one voice is louder then some others). I was listening to it in the car though when i wondered about it, and my speakers aren't the best. Maybe i should go somewhere quiet and listen on my ipod, it might be clearer. |
| dragon-fly 30.08.2009 10:28 |
That's just my observation. Maybe it's wrong. I'm not sure. It's about the meaning of "rhye". I saw translation of lyrics from English to Russian. Where it was translated like more common "paradise". I don't know why so, I never found it in a dictionary. Queer... |
| prescott2811 30.08.2009 12:30 |
like every gd rock song.. this is a pure classic by all means :).. it brings u in as soon as the pinao kicks in.. the meaning on the other hand is a typical Freddie Mercury in mind.. We all know we have seven seas.. but rhy like some1 else sed itss bout a magical land lol |
| cacatua 30.08.2009 14:36 |
catqueen wrote: Thanks for the replies! i thought seven seas of rhye had some deep symbolic meaning or something, maybe not! And yes, I do like to be beside the seaside is part of an old song, i was just wondering about the voices on it. I couldn't make out who it was singing (there are a few places where one voice is louder then some others). I was listening to it in the car though when i wondered about it, and my speakers aren't the best. Maybe i should go somewhere quiet and listen on my ipod, it might be clearer. Tor what it is worth, the explanation I see in Queen, Complete Works is: "The words for Seven Seas of Rhye are ambiguous and defiy any explanation; Roger himself said in 1999, I never understood a word of it, and I don't think Freddie did either, but it was just sort of gestures really, but it was a fine song. The words work well together and create an aural painting of mythology; something which fascinated Freddie at this time (consider his other compositions, especially from the first three albums)." This isn't necessarily the last word on the subject, but it is what I could find. |
| catqueen 01.09.2009 15:02 |
Thanks again for the replies, everyone! I guess if Roger couldn't understand it, there's not much hope for me! :) But it sure makes more sense then it did the first time i heard it - "Fear me you sharp and shady secateurs". (Secateurs, however its spelled, are a type of scissors used for gardening, trimming plants, etc!) |
| Angeline 01.09.2009 15:56 |
link I reckon this link is a load of rubbish though... |
| catqueen 01.09.2009 16:12 |
Angeline wrote: link I reckon this link is a load of rubbish though... Aha, aha! i shall look it up! |
| gammerz 24.06.2011 14:12 |
Partial lyrics for "Lilly Of The Valley":- "Messenger from Seven Seas has flown, To tell the King Of Rhye he's lost his throne" It also mentions "Serpent of the Nile" and "Neptune of the seas". It's a shame if it's not based on a real story, because it sounds very intriguing. |
| basti_stays 23.10.2014 08:53 |
First a HELLO to the QueenZone community. This will be my first post :) I found something very interesting: The name Rhye is a short version of the girls name Rhiannon. Rhiannon means "great queen". link link "Rhiannon is a classic figure in Celtic or Welsh Literature, Welsh mythology or British mythology. She appears prominently in the Mabinogi." link link Maybe Freddie was influenced by these books. Or maybe not. I don't know much about british mythology but that Mabinogion seems to be some intriguing piece of ancient literature. |
| The King Of Rhye 23.10.2014 10:38 |
catqueen wrote: Thanks again for the replies, everyone! I guess if Roger couldn't understand it, there's not much hope for me! :) But it sure makes more sense then it did the first time i heard it - "Fear me you sharp and shady secateurs". (Secateurs, however its spelled, are a type of scissors used for gardening, trimming plants, etc!)I used to think it was 'shod and shady scimitars'.......not that makes any more sense.............. |
| The King Of Rhye 23.10.2014 10:42 |
link Theres the article about that little ditty.................. "I Do Like to Be Beside the Seaside" is a popular British music hall song. It was written in 1907 by John A. Glover-Kind[1] and made famous by music hall singer Mark Sheridan who first recorded it in 1909.[2] It speaks of the singer's love for the seaside, and his wish to return there for his summer holidays each year. It was composed at a time when the yearly visits of the British working-class to the seaside were booming. So there you have it..................I was actually watching the NCIS episode where Ducky started singing it................really took me by surprise! lol................... And for the longest time I never realized that that was what was whistled at the start of Brighton Rock! :) And by the way..........I remember someone saying here a long time ago that Freddie took "Rhye" from H.P. Lovecraft's "The Call of Cthulhu"...........the fictional lost city of R'lyeh.............I seriously doubt that, however............(good story tho!) |
| noorie 23.10.2014 11:13 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:The word is 'senators'! Not secateurs or scimitars. :)catqueen wrote: Thanks again for the replies, everyone! I guess if Roger couldn't understand it, there's not much hope for me! :) But it sure makes more sense then it did the first time i heard it - "Fear me you sharp and shady secateurs". (Secateurs, however its spelled, are a type of scissors used for gardening, trimming plants, etc!)I used to think it was 'shod and shady scimitars'.......not that makes any more sense.............. |
| The King Of Rhye 23.10.2014 14:26 |
noorie wrote:We know that..............now! lol...........that could be another topic right there............misheard Queen lyrics............I used to think the line in The Miracle was 'deaths to babies being born'............(kinda morbid, I know.....)The King Of Rhye wrote:The word is 'senators'! Not secateurs or scimitars. :)catqueen wrote: Thanks again for the replies, everyone! I guess if Roger couldn't understand it, there's not much hope for me! :) But it sure makes more sense then it did the first time i heard it - "Fear me you sharp and shady secateurs". (Secateurs, however its spelled, are a type of scissors used for gardening, trimming plants, etc!)I used to think it was 'shod and shady scimitars'.......not that makes any more sense.............. |
| Sebastian 23.10.2014 15:49 |
As for who's performing ... it's the band plus some studio crew, including Roy Baker on stylophone... which incidentally is a type of synthesiser, therefore they DID use synths before The Game! |
| scallyuk 24.10.2014 05:01 |
Seb , A stylophone is not a bloody synthesiser in the accepted definition of the word both then and now. Its a toy, a noisemaker . Yes it makes sounds but it doesn't "synthesise" them" its a tuned buzzer.. You may as well say a doorbell is a synthesiser |
| musicland munich 24.10.2014 23:46 |
Freddie himself labelt "Rhye" as a fantasy land were only good and nice things happen. |
| thomasquinn 32989 25.10.2014 05:58 |
scallyuk wrote: Seb , A stylophone is not a bloody synthesiser in the accepted definition of the word both then and now. Its a toy, a noisemaker . Yes it makes sounds but it doesn't "synthesise" them" its a tuned buzzer.. You may as well say a doorbell is a synthesiserA stylophone creates notes by means of VCOs (voltage-controlled oscillators) linked to a metal keyboard. A circuit is closed by touching a 'key' with a stylus, generating a note by means of a VCO and a resistor. A larger model of the stylophone, the 350S, allowed for different voices by means of a multi-oscillator setup. Sebastian is right - it's a synthesizer. The way a stylophone generates notes is exactly the same as any other analogue synthesizer, only with far fewer filters and other ways to tweak the sound. |
| The King Of Rhye 25.10.2014 11:04 |
musicland munich wrote: Freddie himself labelt "Rhye" as a fantasy land were only good and nice things happen.Hey I lost my throne there, that wasnt nice.......LOL |
| noorie 25.10.2014 14:20 |
^^^^^^ very funny! |
| brENsKi 25.10.2014 16:51 |
noorie wrote:you'd think that...but then this kinda fits the theme:The King Of Rhye wrote:The word is 'senators'! Not secateurs or scimitars. :)catqueen wrote: "Fear me you sharp and shady secateurs". (Secateurs, however its spelled, are a type of scissors used for gardening, trimming plants, etc!)I used to think it was 'shod and shady scimitars'.......not that makes any more sense.............. "shear me you shearing privet counsellors" |
| thomasquinn 32989 26.10.2014 13:47 |
Using both "shear" and "shearing" in the same line is a stylistic no-no, second only to letting a word rhyme with itself in terms of how much grief it would inflict on Lord Byron to read said line. I like to believe Freddie was above that. |
| noorie 26.10.2014 14:52 |
brENsKi wrote: you'd think that...but then this kinda fits the theme: "shear me you shearing privet counsellors"Or perhaps, 'Shear me you secateur wielding senators'..? |
| The King Of Rhye 26.10.2014 15:01 |
thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Using both "shear" and "shearing" in the same line is a stylistic no-no, second only to letting a word rhyme with itself in terms of how much grief it would inflict on Lord Byron to read said line. I like to believe Freddie was above that.LOL..........I was just listening to War Pigs by Black Sabbath the other day.............always thought it was kinda weird how they rhymed 'masses' with 'masses'.................... |
| Oscar J 26.10.2014 15:47 |
What are you guys talking about? These lyrics aren't anywhere in the song. |
| noorie 26.10.2014 16:56 |
^^^ Just being silly! How about, 'Smite me you scimitar wielding saboteurs'... |
| ITSM 27.10.2014 02:46 |
In the horror movie, Funny Man (1994), they sing Beside the Seaside in a creepy way (took me by surprise). link |
| thomasquinn 32989 28.10.2014 07:54 |
The King Of Rhye wrote:Yeah, really nice song, but a couple of...awkward...moments lyrically :)thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Using both "shear" and "shearing" in the same line is a stylistic no-no, second only to letting a word rhyme with itself in terms of how much grief it would inflict on Lord Byron to read said line. I like to believe Freddie was above that.LOL..........I was just listening to War Pigs by Black Sabbath the other day.............always thought it was kinda weird how they rhymed 'masses' with 'masses'.................... |