john bodega 19.08.2009 15:35 |
I ask you; do you ever write a song which (I guess) isn't particularly good but is the best thing you could possibly write at a point in time because it is so peculiarly 'you'? (shrugs) Just curious. |
lalaalalaa 19.08.2009 15:50 |
I've started a thread like this except it was Share Your Songs. Nobody participated :( Yes I'm a songwriter. |
john bodega 19.08.2009 16:07 |
That's ok, I don't expect people will participate in this - and I certainly can't share mine, it's not recorded yet! It's just a peculiar feeling I got. After months with no songs to offer (my bandmate on the other hand has about 10) I had an epiphany last night and this fully formed song shot out. And it's just so .... er .... apt. I wasn't even trying. Just wondering how y'all felt about that kind of experience, heh. |
lalaalalaa 19.08.2009 16:18 |
I've written around 70+ songs in only one year. Is that impressive? I think it's a good start. I have about 20 recorded (instrumental version anyways) I want to form a band but the band my friends are in have about 7 people already. I need to put some advertisements out and start auditioning sometime. There's plenty of time for that though. I am only 16 |
Yara 19.08.2009 16:59 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I ask you; do you ever write a song which (I guess) isn't particularly good but is the best thing you could possibly write at a point in time because it is so peculiarly 'you'?It's a very interesting thread and it would be sad if people didn't share their experiences. I have absolutely no talent for writing songs. None at all. I have some physical, motor skills but there's actually nothing musical inside of me: I'm as dry as a dead fallen thin branch in the ruthless summer sunshine. The closest to this experience you describe I ever had was borne out of a failure in the execution of a stupid canon I had already played hundreds of times before. I started to feel a pain in one of my left-hand fingers and was tired, it was one of the last presentations; I wrongly tried to reposition my hands to relieve the pain and my left-hand ended up slipping over some three keys and I immediately changed the second voicing to a different mode and for about 0:30 seconds I developed the melody in this way. I knew the second I did it that it sounded nice, at least to me. After the thing, I was exhilarated. I remember going to a bar of sorts inside the theater and ordering a coke or something. I took some time to rejoin the band at the backstage (it sounds fancy, but it was actually just a wooden structrure and table on which there was water and some food for part of the band; it was never enough for the whole band!). As I walked up the plataform I look at one of my teachers and I was frozen with fear. The relief arrived when he came to give me a very brief (hehe) hug and said: "Great job there!" Those who had noticed it, especially a dear friend of mine, congratulated me on the "exquisite variation". --- So that's it. It wasn't something particularly good, it was, in fact, borne out of a mistake I had made, I didn't know, and don't know, up until today how I managed to recover the shape of the melody, but I knew it had been my greatest artistic output at that time. No one cared about it the day after the performance, but it kept being important to me as an endearing moment of my life and a reminder that I might do something which, albeit absolutely little and even insignificant to others, meant a lot to me and showed me that I had something more than a score printed in my mind. |
dragon-fly 20.08.2009 06:53 |
I actually don't write songs, but I write poems. I could write the lyrics for a song- but nobody need it. Besides- it's important to participate with other musicians. About the writing- sometimes it comes quickly. It's like a flash in my head. Sometimes I can't write for a couple of months. Mostly it depends on my mood and ideas. |
thomasquinn 32989 20.08.2009 06:54 |
I write music, but not songs. Unless "songs without words" still count as songs. I prefer instrumental music. |
john bodega 20.08.2009 07:37 |
Ha! I still count instrumentals as songs. Marwa Blues anyone? |
lalaalalaa 20.08.2009 15:53 |
I might share some lyrics here if you guys promise to comment on them (good comments and bad comments are both acceptable) |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 20.08.2009 15:58 |
ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing. and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters? "can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p |
lalaalalaa 20.08.2009 16:17 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing. and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters? "can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-p lol wow. Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them Everywhere I look I see another star in the stormy skies tonight. Everywhere I go I find another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light I've walked around the grassy plains I've ran across the desert lands only to find a little bit of change gone away Every single night I dream of a place where there's no war or famine Every time a I awake from a dream I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live I've sailed across my seven seas I live to serve, I live to please only to see a little bit of change gone away |
Yara 20.08.2009 16:52 |
lalaalalaa wrote:JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing. and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters? "can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-plol wow. Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them Everywhere I look I see another star in the stormy skies tonight. Everywhere I go I find another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light I've walked around the grassy plains I've ran across the desert lands only to find a little bit of change gone away Every single night I dream of a place where there's no war or famine Every time a I awake from a dream I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live I've sailed across my seven seas I live to serve, I live to please only to see a little bit of change gone away Better than any of TCR's lyrics, for sure. And it addresses all those issues dear to Brian: CHANGE - this secular surrogate of a mantra - famine, world, light, war. TCR style would be: "War is totally out Peace should be in The world is drying out Humanity is giving in Let's go and cry out loud For change is within our reach! (solo)" And that's one of my major problems with TCR - lalaalalaa is 16 years-old. Roger is 83. So you'd expect by him something in the vein of lalaalalaa's lyrics at least - some decent imagery, some lyrical content. But no: all we've got is "Surf's Up, School's Out": I refuse to have anything to do with an album featuring such lyrics. It doesn't concern me. "Oh, do you like Queen, don't you? They have just..." My answer: "No, I guess you're wrong. I hate Queen. I've been so into 50cent's anatomical studies lately. I just wrote this paper: Metaphors of the Body: 50cent and the Candy Shop." |
Lady Nyx 20.08.2009 23:21 |
id like to think what ive got to write is pure gold 8-) lol i keed. but theres so often i come up with bits nad pieces of songs, and they never really see the light of day because they sound unnatural. they dont fit in with anything anywhere, so eventually they turn into a collage. thats why my stuff sounds so ADD like. im just gonna go now... |
john bodega 21.08.2009 00:54 |
Cool stuff peoples. I have another problem with my writing. It seems like I write the same song every time .... not word for word or the melody, but structure wise. I mean, it gets better every time I do it, but in the process it sort of renders older songs unusable because while they're ok it's like - "why bother, I have a better one now". |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 21.08.2009 04:38 |
^i always found it easier to bounce things off my 'Creative partner' and he used to do the same,there be many a time where i would go to his place for a few bottles of Red Rock Cider [its not red and it has no rocks in it] and he would say " ive got this little melody,what can you write for it?" and the next thing i knew i'd have half the lyrics written down and maybe even the chorus too. but then there were times when i would have written the lyrics and i couldnt get the tune from the head onto the guitar and i'd shelve the lyrics into my folder [i never threw them away] and months,sometimes years down the road Mat would just show me a riff he had created and it would fit in perfectly with lyrics i'd written when God was a lad. |
john bodega 21.08.2009 04:51 |
That's something else I've been learning, haha. All of these old lyrics I'd consigned to the scrap heap have been finding new homes in my pal's unfinished tunes. Crazy how well it works sometimes. |
lalaalalaa 21.08.2009 08:10 |
These lyrics, I consider incredibly cheesy, but I guess I'll share them. Shining Light (influenced by Lennon) Just think of all the people think of all those lives think of the ones who have nothing every day they cry Chorus: Think of all the people Every day and night Maybe we can help them and be their shining light Be the one to stand tall for those who are small pick up the phone and make the call come and join in one and all Well they try every day working to get by But they still know they can't do it alone even though they've tried chorus You should raise up your voice speak of those in need stand out and rise above the crowd Don't do anything for your own greed We should all join together Spread our wings and fly but the world's still filled with people who make their way by their own lives chorus guitar solo And when everything gets settled when everybody starts to feel fine then we can all come together we will guide our shining light Now poor and rich can work together to make the world a better place No more war or famine In a land of peace and grace chorus |
lalaalalaa 15.09.2009 16:36 |
Yara wrote:lalaalalaa wrote:Better than any of TCR's lyrics, for sure. And it addresses all those issues dear to Brian: CHANGE - this secular surrogate of a mantra - famine, world, light, war. TCR style would be: "War is totally out Peace should be in The world is drying out Humanity is giving in Let's go and cry out loud For change is within our reach! (solo)" And that's one of my major problems with TCR - lalaalalaa is 16 years-old. Roger is 83. So you'd expect by him something in the vein of lalaalalaa's lyrics at least - some decent imagery, some lyrical content. But no: all we've got is "Surf's Up, School's Out": I refuse to have anything to do with an album featuring such lyrics. It doesn't concern me. "Oh, do you like Queen, don't you? They have just..." My answer: "No, I guess you're wrong. I hate Queen. I've been so into 50cent's anatomical studies lately. I just wrote this paper: Metaphors of the Body: 50cent and the Candy Shop."JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing. and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters? "can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-plol wow. Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them Everywhere I look I see another star in the stormy skies tonight. Everywhere I go I find another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light I've walked around the grassy plains I've ran across the desert lands only to find a little bit of change gone away Every single night I dream of a place where there's no war or famine Every time a I awake from a dream I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live I've sailed across my seven seas I live to serve, I live to please only to see a little bit of change gone away Never listen to Queen when it comes to lyrics :P (For example, March of the Black Queen, though oddly enough, it works) BTW- Roger grows up so fast if you say he's 83!!!!!!! Here's some of my more recent work The Piltdown Man (a song against evolution. The opening paragraph is spoken during the song) In 1908, Charles Dawson, a lawyer and amateur archaeologist, claimed to have discovered fossil fragments near his home in Sussex, England. While walking along a road that was being resurfaced with gravel, he noticed some unusual stones. Further examination led him to conclude that the stones were actually fragments of prehistoric bone, leading to evidence of evolution of man. Unfortunately for him, it was a fraud Scientists looking for proof that man came from evolution Claim that man had come from ape Supported by the Piltdown man Fragmented bones of human and monkey seemed to connect together But certain key bones just couldn't be found 'Cause evolution is a load of sh*t If evolution did exist God would still be behind it But in the bible it had never said we came from fellow primates The human race has capacities No animal could ever fathom We are complex creatures with more complex emotions The belief in evolution is absurd Chorus- Did he do it for fame? Was it just an accident? Did he try to support evolution? Did he lie to all the scientific community? |
FriedChicken 15.09.2009 19:47 |
I write music, and also songs. Sometimes it's good, and sometimes it's not as good. If it's not as good as I hoped I wonder what went wrong and try to find a solution to the problem to make it better. Composing isn't about divine inspiration, it's about working hard. |
cacatua 15.09.2009 21:04 |
Zebonka12 wrote: That's ok, I don't expect people will participate in this - and I certainly can't share mine, it's not recorded yet!It's just a peculiar feeling I got. After months with no songs to offer (my bandmate on the other hand has about 10) I had an epiphany last night and this fully formed song shot out. And it's just so .... er .... apt. I wasn't even trying. Just wondering how y'all felt about that kind of experience, heh. So is that the name of it then - Epiphany? |
cacatua 15.09.2009 21:12 |
Yara wrote:lalaalalaa wrote:Better than any of TCR's lyrics, for sure. And it addresses all those issues dear to Brian: CHANGE - this secular surrogate of a mantra - famine, world, light, war. TCR style would be: "War is totally out Peace should be in The world is drying out Humanity is giving in Let's go and cry out loud For change is within our reach! (solo)" And that's one of my major problems with TCR - lalaalalaa is 16 years-old. Roger is 83. So you'd expect by him something in the vein of lalaalalaa's lyrics at least - some decent imagery, some lyrical content. But no: all we've got is "Surf's Up, School's Out": I refuse to have anything to do with an album featuring such lyrics. It doesn't concern me. "Oh, do you like Queen, don't you? They have just..." My answer: "No, I guess you're wrong. I hate Queen. I've been so into 50cent's anatomical studies lately. I just wrote this paper: Metaphors of the Body: 50cent and the Candy Shop."JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ive recently been going through my old lyrics for our old band from about 20 years ago after looking for something else and finding the lyrics instead,i think i invented EMO by the looks of it.God they are depressing. and what the heck was i on when i wrote Dream Masters? "can you feel the needle entering your vein,there's so much pleasure to be insane" was the opening line :-plol wow. Here's some lyrics I don't plan on using so I won't worry about anyone stealing them Everywhere I look I see another star in the stormy skies tonight. Everywhere I go I find another day where the sun shines a little bit brighter light I've walked around the grassy plains I've ran across the desert lands only to find a little bit of change gone away Every single night I dream of a place where there's no war or famine Every time a I awake from a dream I can see that the world can be a dangerous place to live I've sailed across my seven seas I live to serve, I live to please only to see a little bit of change gone away Um............just what is wrong with the lyrics to We Believe? I don't know why you and others are so vitriolic about TCR. Not everything is perfect on it, but I like it. Some of it is good and some of it is fun, and then there's Surf's Up, School's Out.................. |
YourValentine 16.09.2009 04:33 |
LOL @ Yara :-) |
catqueen 16.09.2009 15:20 |
Lalaalalaa, your lyrics are beautiful, esp the first one. I wish i could write, but i am really, really crap at it - "look at the bee, he flew into a tree" type of thing. I can write essays till the cows come home, but can't write anything poetic. Wish i could, i listen to songs sometimes and just about can't imagine that it once didn't exist, but someone made it, crafted it, and created such an incredible thing. |
lalaalalaa 16.09.2009 15:45 |
catqueen wrote: Lalaalalaa, your lyrics are beautiful, esp the first one. I wish i could write, but i am really, really crap at it - "look at the bee, he flew into a tree" type of thing. I can write essays till the cows come home, but can't write anything poetic. Wish i could, i listen to songs sometimes and just about can't imagine that it once didn't exist, but someone made it, crafted it, and created such an incredible thing. Thank you. You might want to be on the lookout for me in a few years, because I'm going to try to get an album out ASAP |
catqueen 17.09.2009 15:08 |
lalaalalaa wrote:catqueen wrote: Lalaalalaa, your lyrics are beautiful, esp the first one. I wish i could write, but i am really, really crap at it - "look at the bee, he flew into a tree" type of thing. I can write essays till the cows come home, but can't write anything poetic. Wish i could, i listen to songs sometimes and just about can't imagine that it once didn't exist, but someone made it, crafted it, and created such an incredible thing.Thank you. You might want to be on the lookout for me in a few years, because I'm going to try to get an album out ASAP Great, can't wait to hear it! :) |