Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 11.08.2009 14:24 |
Everyone say that TCR is horrible, bad, etc. But i dont think that it is all that bad. Most of the songs are very good and whatnot. MY only real biff with it is that it would have fared much better IMO if it were sold as Brian May and Roger Taylor With Paul Rodgers. |
John Oswald 11.08.2009 14:35 |
I think it's ok but nothing special with the exception of a few songs such as say it isn't true being a personal high on it |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 11.08.2009 14:38 |
Yeah. C-Lebrity is one of my favorites, but the lyrical content is a bit ironic, doncha think? |
John Oswald 11.08.2009 14:52 |
Hmm with C-Elebrity I think it's one of the most poorly written songs by Queen to be frank I like the rocky sound of it and Paul's vocals are good on it but the lyrics kinda wreck it for me IMO |
princetom 11.08.2009 14:53 |
it needs a proper bass-player. |
PauloPanucci 11.08.2009 14:58 |
It was nice... i can't say that stays bad... the musics C-lebrity, War Boys, Cosmos Rocks, Say it's not true staied very nice!!!! it's not "Queen",, it's "Half Queen",, because this (Bri and Rog) i keep like Queen+PR!!! |
sexmachine 11.08.2009 15:22 |
voodoo is great |
Queen On Ice 11.08.2009 15:26 |
I love TCR. Wish/hope there is another album too :) |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 11.08.2009 15:56 |
Thank you for not being a basher of TCR! When it cam out, everybody thought it was going to be another Innuendo or something! What did they expect it to be? I think it is a rightly enjoyable album to listen to and enjoy. It would though have fared better, as mentioned above, if it were not marketed as a Q+PR project. |
marcio17@queenzone.com 11.08.2009 16:25 |
I really like it. I think is very good for nowadays standards...look all the punk and new metal bands, TCR is definitely a very good album. |
marcio17@queenzone.com 11.08.2009 16:26 |
Queen had the guts to compose new songs in an era were no much seventies bands do that. |
argQ 11.08.2009 16:27 |
I think TCR is geting better. I'm enjoying songs like Say it's not true, Warboys, Voodoo and We believe. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 11.08.2009 16:34 |
Same here. Its one of those albums that grows on you after time and each listen. Just like Driving Rain by Paul McCartney. |
Vali 11.08.2009 16:35 |
It's not bad to me. I still enjoy it and would love to see a follow-up. |
catqueen 11.08.2009 17:03 |
I wasn't too impressed the first time I heard it, although I loved a few songs. But like several people said, it grows on you. I don't listen to it often, although thinking about it now I should put it on again, but I like it well enough now. I really like several songs on it and really dislike one or two, but overall I'm starting to like it more. I suppose it was bound to be a let down without Freddie and John - even though we all knew they weren't on it it was hard to imagine any new 'Queen' material without their influence and with another strong influence. I guess I kind of expected it to sound something like Brian and Roger's solo work, but of course with Paul's influence it wasn't going to. I still like the live QPR album better though, that was more like hearing Queen rom a different perspective, it's interesting. |
dragon-fly 11.08.2009 18:14 |
For me it's a hard question... It's not bad. It's not very good. But it is good in comparison with what is around now. I liked Small, Warboys, Through The Night, Say It's Not True. I just used to a blow from Queen, and this is a kind of nostalgia... I love that crazy '70, but the thing is that they will never be repeated again. It will never be like that again- the time has changed, the musicians has changed- everything did! Probably it is good, in it's own way... |
Queen On Ice 11.08.2009 18:22 |
I think anyone who expected it to sound like Queen (of old) was always going to be disappointed. Brian and Roger were 14 years older than when they last worked together (on a whole album of new material), and 40 years older than when they were in Smile. There is bound to be a massive change of approach in that time. Throw in the new influence of a different collaborator and you will have something that will not sound like traditional Queen. |
dragon-fly 11.08.2009 18:31 |
Queen On Ice wrote: I think anyone who expected it to sound like Queen (of old) was always going to be disappointed. Brian and Roger were 14 years older than when they last worked together, and 40 years older than when they were in Smile. There is bound to be a massive change of approach in that time. Throw in the new influence of a different collaborator and you will have something that will not sound like traditional Queen. That's what I'm saying generally... Funny and sad:) |
lalaalalaa 11.08.2009 18:51 |
I love the album. It is a very good project, although I would have liked it to have Brian May singing a whole song lead. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 11.08.2009 18:58 |
Yes. I thought it was OK the first time I heard it and didnt put it on again for almost 6 months! But i have recently rediscovered it. Too bad I live in Florida and am only 14 or else I would have definitely gone to a QPR gig. |
PauloPanucci 11.08.2009 19:26 |
i don't lnow why the peoples stay saying craps about Q+Pr.. just because PR gone???? come on! |
doxonrox 11.08.2009 19:50 |
Hmm, I guess I'll be the first... It sucked. If you want to compare it to a Foghat album, it might be OK. But greed insisted on it having the Queen name and being compared to Queen albums. And considering that you have a PHD in Astrophysics as one of the songwriters, how in the hell can the lyrics be so immature and shallow? Do none of these old farts have anything to say? Oh wait, I forgot about I Believe - nevermind. I prefer the "nothing to say" lyrics. TCR is boring. Say what you want about any stage of Queen + Freddie, but they were never boring. |
lalaalalaa 11.08.2009 21:09 |
doxonrox wrote: Hmm, I guess I'll be the first... It sucked. If you want to compare it to a Foghat album, it might be OK. But greed insisted on it having the Queen name and being compared to Queen albums. And considering that you have a PHD in Astrophysics as one of the songwriters, how in the hell can the lyrics be so immature and shallow? Do none of these old farts have anything to say? Oh wait, I forgot about I Believe - nevermind. I prefer the "nothing to say" lyrics. TCR is boring. Say what you want about any stage of Queen + Freddie, but they were never boring. It didn't have the Queen name. It had the Queen + Paul Rodgers name. They put + Paul Rodgers in the name to show that it wasn't the Queen we know and love. I think it's safe to say it's better than Flash Gordon if you want to compare it to Queen albums, so it isn't the worst ;) Also, since when were Queen good with lyrics? Have you read the lyrics to March of the Black Queen. It's one of the best Queen songs yet it has the dumbest nonsense called lyrics (although they fit into the song very well). I respect your opinion. Everyone's tastes are different. I just can't resist an argument :P |
Josh Henson 11.08.2009 21:29 |
doxonrox wrote: Hmm, I guess I'll be the first... It sucked. If you want to compare it to a Foghat album, it might be OK. But greed insisted on it having the Queen name and being compared to Queen albums. And considering that you have a PHD in Astrophysics as one of the songwriters, how in the hell can the lyrics be so immature and shallow? Do none of these old farts have anything to say? Oh wait, I forgot about I Believe - nevermind. I prefer the "nothing to say" lyrics. TCR is boring. Say what you want about any stage of Queen + Freddie, but they were never boring. First, the answer to your question, "yes". I don't care what the album is called or who the musicians call themselves. The album stinks, no matter if Queen, or QPR, or Foghat, or 5ive, or 3 little shits in their garage made it. It is musically bad and very generic with no enthusiasm or real creativity. [listu] [li]There is an absence of a true bass player on most of the songs. Couldn't they have hired someone???? [li]The lyrics are SO cheesy and weak and full of shitty cliches. How much songwriting did Brian and Roger contribute to this? [li]For a guy (Brian) to have created some great hard rock songs and moments not just in their 70's heyday, but in recent years with solo stuff from Stone Cold Crazy, Now I'm here, Tie Your Mother Down, FBG, Dragon Attack, Hammer To Fall, Headlong, I Want It All, Business, Resurrection, etc etc, where in the HELL was the hard rock on this album? Warboys? PLEASE! That song sucked so much ass. Admit it, with its crappy hook 'Warboysss'...I actually laughed at it when I heard it. I almost took offense to it because as a servicemember in the military I almost felt like my deployment and my brothers' and sisters' fighting for what we believe is right (no pun) was shit on in that song. Just my opinion [li]The art work and album cover? I laughed again at it [li]C-lebrity as the only true single? So corny that Entertainment Tonight used it with altered lyrics [li]Sampling your own song? Wow - an all time new low. [li]Again the shitty lyrics...Surf's up, school's out! What the hell is that about? Call me? No, I will not. [li]The only shining moment on the album was leaked out months before with Say It's Not True....sad [li]If the album was SO good, where are the other singles? Where was the promotion? How did it sell? Probably not too well. [li]Someone said it before - at best it was a good Bad Company album and the WORST 'Queen' album [/listu] That's just my opinion and I've said it once and I'll say it again, opinions are like ass holes...every one has one. p.s. - what did you expect from this thread? All positive responses? p.s.s. -Not trying to be an asshole, but this album was HORRENDOUS |
Ken8 11.08.2009 22:24 |
Hadrian says it all. Boring and bland. |
Sheer Brass Neck 11.08.2009 23:08 |
Agreed. Beyond horrendous. |
marcio17@queenzone.com 11.08.2009 23:26 |
I also think that it grows with that time. For me, is much better than the first months I heard it. It also has a great massive-audience-related tour. Cheers, |
lalaalalaa 11.08.2009 23:44 |
I find it strange you attack them for writing crap lyrics. Queen has always had crappy lyrics so why are you guys so suprised? |
Ken8 11.08.2009 23:47 |
<2>marcio17@queenzone.com wrote: I also think that it grows with that time. For me, is much better than the first months I heard it. It also has a great massive-audience-related tour. Cheers, I think it's safe to say the "massive audience" were there for nostalgia, not new material from "TCR" |
Ken8 11.08.2009 23:48 |
lalaalalaa wrote: I find it strange you attack them for writing crap lyrics. Queen has always had crappy lyrics so why are you guys so suprised? Surprised? How did Queen get away with "crappy" lyrics for so long, but not with "TCR"? Must be something missing.......... |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 12.08.2009 00:01 |
I dont think that everyone who went to a QPR gig did so for nostalgia (probably %80-90%) as proven by the number of hardcore fans on Queenzone IMO. |
marcio17@queenzone.com 12.08.2009 00:33 |
Definitely not nostalgia...look al the youngsters there. In Argentina, Chile and Brasil at least, people wanted to listen the new tracks from TCR. Look in their local news channels in youtube. |
marcio17@queenzone.com 12.08.2009 00:34 |
...by the way, in the Live in Urkaine DVD, many young people seem to have their first rocking experience. |
Ken8 12.08.2009 02:45 |
<2>marcio17@queenzone.com wrote: Definitely not nostalgia...look al the youngsters there. In Argentina, Chile and Brasil at least, people wanted to listen the new tracks from TCR. Look in their local news channels in youtube. Funny, you'd have thought the album sold well the way you're talking about it. |
The Fairy King 12.08.2009 05:05 |
Queen On Ice wrote: I think anyone who expected it to sound like Queen (of old) was always going to be disappointed. Brian and Roger were 14 years older than when they last worked together (on a whole album of new material), and 40 years older than when they were in Smile. There is bound to be a massive change of approach in that time. Throw in the new influence of a different collaborator and you will have something that will not sound like traditional Queen. So Brian finally made that time travel thing working huh? |
andyb1968 12.08.2009 05:32 |
Make no mistake if this had been a debut album by any other band the music press would have raved about it,the promotion behind it was nil,a comeback album by Queen would have been huge,but no one knew about it,i think this is the main reason Paul has walked.It is a very good bunch of songs,my only quibble is that i would have liked more over the top guitar from Brian,to give it the real Queen sound. |
paul mason 12.08.2009 05:50 |
I just yesterday,saw it for sale in HMV for £3,i think that speaks volumes,love C-lebrity,Say its Not True,and Surfs Up,the rest is just filler 2 me,its my opinion only................ |
andreas_mercury 12.08.2009 06:41 |
warboys is the best track! |
sbrown 12.08.2009 06:57 |
Loved it. And to be honest, would prefer a new QPR album every 2 years than the anthologies. Live in the now! |
sbrown 12.08.2009 06:58 |
Ken8 wrote: Funny, you'd have thought the album sold well the way you're talking about it. Is half a million sales bad? I'm not quite sure any more. |
39a 12.08.2009 07:25 |
In the UK my local HMV store is selling it for £3.00 or on HMV.com for £2.99 if anyone is interested. To me this album is ok but lacks decent bass. If John was still actively around, would this album have even been made, who knows. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 12.08.2009 08:24 |
Agree. Besides "Suck On The Jugular" on Voodoo Lounge by The Rolling Stones the TCR is like most post-Wyman Stones music. No real bass. |
rodge-fred-bri-deaky 12.08.2009 11:56 |
I liked it. I think the musical skill was beerilliant. It was really obvious that bri and rog havent been sitting around doing nothing in the 18-ish years since fred died. And all these people that are bashing Paul Rodgers- Look, Freddie's dead, nothing you say about Paul can bring him back. Paul isnt as good as Fred i'll admit but hes not bad and be honest, wouldn't you rather that Brian and Roger kept going with him as frontman than not make any more music at all. |
Canadian May Fan 12.08.2009 12:13 |
I definitely wasn't impressed. Most of the tracks are pretty bland, some are just insipid. |
Queen On Ice 12.08.2009 13:48 |
The Fairy King wrote:Queen On Ice wrote: I think anyone who expected it to sound like Queen (of old) was always going to be disappointed. Brian and Roger were 14 years older than when they last worked together (on a whole album of new material), and 40 years older than when they were in Smile. There is bound to be a massive change of approach in that time. Throw in the new influence of a different collaborator and you will have something that will not sound like traditional Queen.So Brian finally made that time travel thing working huh? AHH, I guess you mean the mathematic mistake I made in that there is actually 13 years between MIH and TCR? Well spotted. Somehow I tend to think of TCR as a 2009 album even though mine was delivered to me at 9:30 in the morning on the day if it's release in the UK. Still my point remains however. |
The Real Wizard 12.08.2009 16:04 |
They weren't trying to reinvent the wheel. Why should they? They've sold a combined 300 million records. They just wanted to create music that made them happy. There are a few strong tracks on the album (Time To Shine, Some Things That Glitter, Say It's Not True, Surf's Up), and quite a few generic ones... but certainly no piss poor tracks. The problem wasn't so much the music but the fact that they used the Queen name. Most people walked past the record in the shop, as the average person sees Queen as Freddie Mercury. A new name and adequate marketing would have given it a supergroup vibe, a la Velvet Revolver or Audioslave, and it probably would have sold far better. The Cosmos Rocks is no more derivative than U2's last two records which sold millions. |
Vali 12.08.2009 16:20 |
Sir GH wrote: ... A new name and adequate marketing would have had given it a supergroup vibe, a la Velvet Revolver or Audioslave, and it probably would have sold far better ... ... or Chickenfoot ! I can't agree more with you here, Bob. |
qrock 12.08.2009 18:32 |
Yeah it was very good album |
Ken8 12.08.2009 21:57 |
Vali wrote:Sir GH wrote: ... A new name and adequate marketing would have had given it a supergroup vibe, a la Velvet Revolver or Audioslave, and it probably would have sold far better ...... or Chickenfoot ! I can't agree more with you here, Bob. Good point, but "TCR" is not in the same league as "Chickenfoot", "Velvet Revolver" or "Audioslave" "Chickenfoot" is too much fun. Those guys blew away fears that their album was going to be yet another of those bloated, pretentious, bland and boring "supergroups".......like "Q+PR" The reality is "TCR" would've been marketed and sold better had it been a better album. Nobody, not even the band had much faith in what they delivered. Had they, they would've got behind it. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 12.08.2009 23:03 |
I dont think so. I agree with the others (and I was the first in this thread to say so) that it would have fared much better commercially and critically had it not been marketed as Q+PR. They should have called it Starfleet!!! ^_^ |
lalaalalaa 13.08.2009 00:12 |
Ken8 wrote:Vali wrote:Good point, but "TCR" is not in the same league as "Chickenfoot", "Velvet Revolver" or "Audioslave" "Chickenfoot" is too much fun. Those guys blew away fears that their album was going to be yet another of those bloated, pretentious, bland and boring "supergroups".......like "Q+PR" The reality is "TCR" would've been marketed and sold better had it been a better album. Nobody, not even the band had much faith in what they delivered. Had they, they would've got behind it.Sir GH wrote: ... A new name and adequate marketing would have had given it a supergroup vibe, a la Velvet Revolver or Audioslave, and it probably would have sold far better ...... or Chickenfoot ! I can't agree more with you here, Bob. I like TCR much more than Audioslave and Velvet Revolver. Not sure about Chickenfoot though. I'll have to get the album sometime. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 13.08.2009 00:39 |
Chickenfoot kicks ass. Satriani, Chad Smith, Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony? Come on. Hope they work more in the future like Zeppelin did or unlike QPR! |
Erin 13.08.2009 01:21 |
Going to see Chickenfoot at the Myrtle Beach House of Blues the end of the month. Should be fun. Speaking of supergroups....how 'bout Them Crooked Vultures?? Really excited about that one! |
Ken8 13.08.2009 05:54 |
lalaalalaa wrote:Ken8 wrote:I like TCR much more than Audioslave and Velvet Revolver. Not sure about Chickenfoot though. I'll have to get the album sometime.Vali wrote:Good point, but "TCR" is not in the same league as "Chickenfoot", "Velvet Revolver" or "Audioslave" "Chickenfoot" is too much fun. Those guys blew away fears that their album was going to be yet another of those bloated, pretentious, bland and boring "supergroups".......like "Q+PR" The reality is "TCR" would've been marketed and sold better had it been a better album. Nobody, not even the band had much faith in what they delivered. Had they, they would've got behind it.Sir GH wrote: ... A new name and adequate marketing would have had given it a supergroup vibe, a la Velvet Revolver or Audioslave, and it probably would have sold far better ...... or Chickenfoot ! I can't agree more with you here, Bob. That's fine, but you're in the minority. Do grab "Chickenfoot" though Even Brian May loves them! |
Ken8 13.08.2009 05:56 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: I dont think so. I agree with the others (and I was the first in this thread to say so) that it would have fared much better commercially and critically had it not been marketed as Q+PR. They should have called it Starfleet!!! ^_^ You know, at least when it flopped like it did, it wouldn't have been so embarrassing for us old school "Queen" fans! |
Ken8 13.08.2009 06:05 |
Erin wrote: Going to see Chickenfoot at the Myrtle Beach House of Blues the end of the month. Should be fun. Speaking of supergroups....how 'bout Them Crooked Vultures?? Really excited about that one! Me too. Now that's someone I could live with collaborating with Roger & Brian, Dave Grohl. His credentials speak for themself, and at least he's somebody with an idea of how to make rock music in this day and age that people like. The Foos & May's "Have A Cigar" rocks in a way that "TCR" could only dream of. |
Vali 13.08.2009 06:42 |
lalaalalaa wrote:Ken8 wrote:I like TCR much more than Audioslave and Velvet Revolver. Not sure about Chickenfoot though. I'll have to get the album sometime.Vali wrote:Good point, but "TCR" is not in the same league as "Chickenfoot", "Velvet Revolver" or "Audioslave" "Chickenfoot" is too much fun. Those guys blew away fears that their album was going to be yet another of those bloated, pretentious, bland and boring "supergroups".......like "Q+PR" The reality is "TCR" would've been marketed and sold better had it been a better album. Nobody, not even the band had much faith in what they delivered. Had they, they would've got behind it.Sir GH wrote: ... A new name and adequate marketing would have had given it a supergroup vibe, a la Velvet Revolver or Audioslave, and it probably would have sold far better ...... or Chickenfoot ! I can't agree more with you here, Bob. Different styles, of course. TCR can't be compared musically to VR, Audioslave or Chickenfoot, as they play (played, in Audioslave's case) in the hard-rock league. I knew what I was going to get when purchasing those albums from those superbands, as well as more or less knew what I was going to get with TCR. No "operatic/vaudeville Queen" expected, so I wasn't disappointed with the final result and still defend the album. The only thing I miss is a truly hard-rocker number from Brian (Still Burnin' is fine, but it's not that HTF, Headlong, etc type you could expect from him). ps: go and get Chickenfoot's album asap !! pure fun !!!! can't wait to see them live !! |
Yara 13.08.2009 06:44 |
It's actually worse than bad: it's embarassing. Pay attention, close attention to Surf's Up. It's serious stuff. It's way worse than being I don't know how many degrees and being called "Mr. Fahrenheit". The guy is 80 and all he can do is give you these lyrics? Delilah alone is better than the whole album. There was some dignity to Delilah. The guy actually composed a song for the kitten he loved and managed to make it sound as if she were singing it. I came to appreciate Delilah's concept over time. But The Cosmos Rock will forever tarnish Queen's beautiful and important legacy. |
Vali 13.08.2009 06:58 |
Yara wrote: It's actually worse than bad: it's embarassing. Pay attention, close attention to Surf's Up. It's serious stuff. It's way worse than being I don't know how many degrees and being called "Mr. Fahrenheit". The guy is 80 and all he can do is give you these lyrics? Delilah alone is better than the whole album. There was some dignity to Delilah. The guy actually composed a song for the kitten he loved and managed to make it sound as if she were singing it. I came to appreciate Delilah's concept over time. But The Cosmos Rock will forever tarnish Queen's beautiful and important legacy. Hi Yara, nice to read you again :) All oppinions are respected, of course. And I understand there's a lot of people giving much importance to the lyrics. Surf's Up annoys you; I, musically, can't stop enjoying it. I'm on the side of those don't giving relevance to the use of the name "Queen" in TCR. My reaction would have been the same if they called themselves "Potato+Paul Rodgers". Music is what matters to me. And I like the music delivered in TCR, wich doesn't belong to "Queen's beautiful and important legacy", as the Queen I leant to love since I was 8 years old in 1984 ended with MIH. The rest, NOBY included, is "of course another story", although labelled as Queen too, fact that I don't really care. ps: I love Delilah, too !! |
Vali 13.08.2009 07:04 |
Erin wrote: ....how 'bout Them Crooked Vultures?? Really excited about that one! Wow wow wow !!! Didn't know about them ! Josh Homme, Grohl and John Paul Jones ?? can't wait .... |
Erin 13.08.2009 12:39 |
Vali wrote:Erin wrote: ....how 'bout Them Crooked Vultures?? Really excited about that one!Wow wow wow !!! Didn't know about them ! Josh Homme, Grohl and John Paul Jones ?? can't wait .... I am really hoping for a tour. I would SO love to see Dave playing drums! :-) And yeah Ken, I wish Brian and Roger would collaborate with Dave/Foos, too. Have A Cigar kicks ass! I love Goodbye Lament and Tired Of You, as well. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 13.08.2009 14:21 |
If Brian, Roger, and the Foos put together a supergroup... Oh man! I would kill to see that! |
Yara 13.08.2009 14:53 |
Vali wrote:Yara wrote: It's actually worse than bad: it's embarassing. Pay attention, close attention to Surf's Up. It's serious stuff. It's way worse than being I don't know how many degrees and being called "Mr. Fahrenheit". The guy is 80 and all he can do is give you these lyrics? Delilah alone is better than the whole album. There was some dignity to Delilah. The guy actually composed a song for the kitten he loved and managed to make it sound as if she were singing it. I came to appreciate Delilah's concept over time. But The Cosmos Rock will forever tarnish Queen's beautiful and important legacy.Hi Yara, nice to read you again :) All oppinions are respected, of course. And I understand there's a lot of people giving much importance to the lyrics. Surf's Up annoys you; I, musically, can't stop enjoying it. I'm on the side of those don't giving relevance to the use of the name "Queen" in TCR. My reaction would have been the same if they called themselves "Potato+Paul Rodgers". Music is what matters to me. And I like the music delivered in TCR, wich doesn't belong to "Queen's beautiful and important legacy", as the Queen I leant to love since I was 8 years old in 1984 ended with MIH. The rest, NOBY included, is "of course another story", although labelled as Queen too, fact that I don't really care. ps: I love Delilah, too !! He. Hi, Vali! Thanks! Oh...I was playing around a bit. I don't think the album is that bad in fact. Though I do think that the lyrics spoil the potential musical fun sometimes and, yes, I expected more not really from "Queen", but from these great musicians: Paul, Brian and Roger. The line about the legacy was a silly joke, it's just that I lost count of how many times I argued against this kind of thing so I tried to do the opposite to chill out. Hehehe. I see no Delilah in TCR. That kind of creativity. I used to hate Delilah. But when the obvious fact that the song was about a kitten and had to be as campy as possible dawned on me, I came to appreciate it - it's creative. The song has an affected whismical effeminate mood that I can easily relate to a kitten. It's simple, maybe silly, but works, it's fun and creative. I'm honest about it: I don't like the album. But I don't think it's that bad either. I'm happy you enjoy it. I wished I could say the same. There's something about this album which I just can't relate to - maybe it's the lyrics, maybe it's more than that, but...well...that's it. lol Not much to say. Take care, Yara. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 13.08.2009 16:08 |
It seemed to "charity/change the world" oriented to me. But thats just the way the lyrics came across in my mind. |
«¤~Mrš. BÃD GÛŸ~¤» 13.08.2009 17:05 |
It deserves a 4 out of 10 IMO. |
Ken8 13.08.2009 22:20 |
Yara wrote:....I expected more not really from "Queen", but from these great musicians: Paul, Brian and Roger. I'm one who disagreed with them still using the Queen name, but that's what really baffles me. How could a collaboration of those three rock legends come up with something so lacking, or more pertinently, out of touch? If they must carry on I reckon they need some fresh blood along the lines of a Grohl. What worries me about teaming up with someone like Adam Lambert is, what input to the music would someone like him have? Sure, the kid can sing but the whole thing starts to look like the Judas Priest scenario that they made into a movie. What makes me laugh by comparison is Van Halen's current philosophy. What songs for the setlist? Ask Wolfie. What other artists for Guitar Hero V.H.? Ask Wolfie. Time for Brian & Roger to start bouncing a few ideas off the kids perhaps! |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 14.08.2009 14:51 |
For Me the album was alot like Venus and Mars by Wings, I heard a few songs from it that I really liked and then i got it and thoses turned out to be the only REALLY good songs on it. Spirits Of Ancient Egypt is a good Denny Laine Vocal and Medicine Jar are good songs on it. This is the way I felt a bout TCR. I thought it was far too overhyped for what the contents actually held... Enjoyable if youre in the right mood though. |
PauloPanucci 14.08.2009 15:32 |
Return of the champions is better than Cosmos!!! but i think this point don't count, because in return of the champions the musics are of Queen, and not made by "Q+PR" or "HALF QUEEN+PR"!!! |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 14.08.2009 16:11 |
The Queen+Paul Rodgers name was pointless to begin with. They Should have called it The Cross+The Man Of Fire! |
john bodega 14.08.2009 16:34 |
They could've been honest like Pink Floyd and called the album Momentary Lapse in Reason. Oh wait; been done! Fuck. |
mike hunt 14.08.2009 17:34 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: Chickenfoot kicks ass. Satriani, Chad Smith, Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony? Come on. Hope they work more in the future like Zeppelin did or unlike QPR! I still have to check out chickenfoot, I'll check it out soon..... As far as TCR, it's a weak album. Some here are saying it gets better with time, I disagree, for me it's gotten even worse. The song "small" I liked when I first heard it, but now I find it boring like the rest of the album. TCR makes hot space seem brilliant. |
mike hunt 14.08.2009 17:37 |
Yara wrote: It's actually worse than bad: it's embarassing. Pay attention, close attention to Surf's Up. It's serious stuff. It's way worse than being I don't know how many degrees and being called "Mr. Fahrenheit". The guy is 80 and all he can do is give you these lyrics? Delilah alone is better than the whole album. There was some dignity to Delilah. The guy actually composed a song for the kitten he loved and managed to make it sound as if she were singing it. I came to appreciate Delilah's concept over time. But The Cosmos Rock will forever tarnish Queen's beautiful and important legacy. excatly, when I first heard delilah I thought it was horrible, but being an animal lover, and sentimental at times it was only natural the song would grow me, and that it did. I like the song. |
Mr Mercury 14.08.2009 17:37 |
sbrown wrote:Ken8 wrote: Funny, you'd have thought the album sold well the way you're talking about it.Is half a million sales bad? I'm not quite sure any more. It is when you consider that illegal downloading definetely does affect sales these days. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 14.08.2009 20:48 |
You say Mike, that TCR makes Hot Space look brilliant. Well it always was![img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] |
Ken8 15.08.2009 01:29 |
Mr Mercury wrote:sbrown wrote:It is when you consider that illegal downloading definetely does affect sales these days.Ken8 wrote: Funny, you'd have thought the album sold well the way you're talking about it.Is half a million sales bad? I'm not quite sure any more. Yes because nobody downloaded any album other than "TCR" apparently.......... |
john bodega 15.08.2009 06:04 |
It's not really that bad. It's just not really very good, and people don't know how to take that when they've been spoiled with great stuff in the past. If we took all of the shitty songs from the Queen catalogue though, we could make 1 or even 2 albums that are worse than TCR. Easy. |
Ken8 15.08.2009 06:48 |
Zebonka12 wrote: It's not really that bad. It's just not really very good, and people don't know how to take that when they've been spoiled with great stuff in the past. Queen catalogue though, we could make 1 or even 2 albums that are worse than TCR. Easy. You know what, I really doubt that. Queen at their worst is still more fun than anything on "TCR" |
john bodega 15.08.2009 10:02 |
Mmm... true. Maybe 2 albums is a stretch. I still think I could find at least one mid-length album of worse stuff. Having said that, I don't know if I could find anything that was as 'meh' or middle-of-the-road. |
Cincinnati Bow Tie 15.08.2009 13:25 |
TCR desperately misses a good bass player...even Danny Miranda would have added quite a bit to the songs. I don't think that the casual fan realizes what John Deacon added to the Queen sound. He is, IMO, one of hte best bass players in rock, he was a huge part of the "Queen" sound, and, without his bass lines, the majority of the record simply falls flat. |
PauloPanucci 15.08.2009 19:26 |
if john played with "HALF QUEEN+PR", the fans would liked more it... the shows, cd's, musics, general!! |
lalaalalaa 15.08.2009 19:34 |
QueenPaulo wrote: if john played with "HALF QUEEN+PR", the fans would liked more it... the shows, cd's, musics, general!! Then it would be 3/4 Queen + PR ;) |
Ken8 16.08.2009 08:45 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Mmm... true. Maybe 2 albums is a stretch. I still think I could find at least one mid-length album of worse stuff. Having said that, I don't know if I could find anything that was as 'meh' or middle-of-the-road. Yeah, "Queen's Worst EP" That's a spot on description of "TCR"..."meh" & "M.O.R" |
john bodega 16.08.2009 09:26 |
Cincinnati Bow Tie wrote: TCR desperately misses a good bass player...even Danny Miranda would have added quite a bit to the songs. I don't think that the casual fan realizes what John Deacon added to the Queen sound. He is, IMO, one of hte best bass players in rock, he was a huge part of the "Queen" sound, and, without his bass lines, the majority of the record simply falls flat.Indeed. I've said it before, but the nearest thing (to my ears anyway) to old-Queen on TCR was "Some Things That Glitter". I suppose it's a less textured and less passionate sounding version of something like "Save Me". And what was one of the big differences? The bass track! They really should've got someone in to do it. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 16.08.2009 19:59 |
I thought the song The Cosmos Rocks, when used as an opener, reminded me a bit of Let Me Entertain You. Compare "We Got The Whole World Rockin'!..." to the verses in LMEY. I think it sounds a little bit alike. I can actually hear Freddie singing TCR and it sounding better already. |
PauloPanucci 16.08.2009 20:32 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: I thought the song The Cosmos Rocks, when used as an opener, reminded me a bit of Let Me Entertain You. Compare "We Got The Whole World Rockin'!..." to the verses in LMEY. I think it sounds a little bit alike. I can actually hear Freddie singing TCR and it sounding better already. could remind you... but i don't think it's like Let me entertain you!!! |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 16.08.2009 21:44 |
Oh definitely not!!! LMEY is more of a song than TCR will ever be! "I'll pull you, I'll pill You. Ill Cruella-Deville You. To Thrill You Ill Use Any Device." Greatest lyrics ive ever heard. Blatant sexual Innuendo 25 years ahead of its time! |
doxonrox 16.08.2009 22:48 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Mmm... true. Maybe 2 albums is a stretch. I still think I could find at least one mid-length album of worse stuff. Having said that, I don't know if I could find anything that was as 'meh' or middle-of-the-road. Great post on Momentary Lapse of Reason - LOL. Here's a stab at a Queen album worse than TCR: 1. Party/Khashoggi's Ship 2. Sweet Lady 3. Jesus 4. The Loser in the End 5. Misfire 6. Rain Must Fall 7. If You Can't Beat Them 8. Calling All Girls 9. Action This Day 10. Keep Passing the Open Windows 11. Pain is So Close to Pleasure 12. All God's People 13. Friends Will Be Friends 14. You Don't Fool Me 15. Yeah Hmmm, that's about the worst I can come up with and I still prefer it to TCR. |
Yara 16.08.2009 22:50 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: Oh definitely not!!! LMEY is more of a song than TCR will ever be! "I'll pull you, I'll pill You. Ill Cruella-Deville You. To Thrill You Ill Use Any Device." Greatest lyrics ive ever heard. Blatant sexual Innuendo 25 years ahead of its time! Hehe. But it's indeed one of my favorite Queen songs. Some of the most difficult vocals Freddie ever committed to record and an absolutely fascinating paralell structured texture based on brilliant performanti. Some live versions are a real treasure. The first bridge - just vocal and percussion, ocasionally some bass - is indeed wonderful. User Olivier Ruth shared a concert from 1981, it's probably one of the best sounding Queen bootlegs I have ever heard, on which one can listen to John's base very, very clearly. Maybe all too clearly. What he does in the song is simply brilliant. Though Brian, as it was often the case in the Game Tour, misses some chords in the middle-eight, if my memory serves me right. Anyway, you raised a good point: the lyrics. My main problem with TCR are the lyrics. Not that the music got me going, it didn't, but some of the lyrics are just flat out ridiculous for people who have grown up. Those lyrics would be ok back in the 70's or the early 80's, but 20 years later? Surf's Up, school's out? Lyrics don't have to be intellectualized to be good. Some simple love lyrics can turn out to be good. "Let Me Entertain You" intellectual content is close to zero, but the lyrics are wonderful all the same: the self-confident performer singing his own qualities and boasting about it for the crowd - it's a wonderful idea. And it's fun, there's a nice, suitable sense of humor to it, it works as a live act because it gave Freddie a lot of room for his showmanship. But C-Lebrity and...I just can't. If they were in their 20's, it could be mildly amusing, but even so... As I said to Vali: I don't think the album is that bad. It's only that "bad" is a relative concept: "bad" is only bad in relation to something else, right? There's not an absolute isolated "bad". And the album is bad if you consider that three towering figures in the music business have done it; it's bad compared to Ben Harper's new album - an amazing album, great reviews, great sales, great concerts, a beautiful hommage to Queen and Freddie: to listen to this guy singing Under Pressure was a dream come true to me.. - to Dream Theater's new album - which I didn't like, but is no doubt better to my ears than TCR - or to Dave Matthews' new album. I hate R.E.M and Foo Fighters, but I must admit that they have been on the road for some time and that their material is usually better than TCR. I could come up with a plethora of names. Neil Young's and Dylan's new albums are wonderful - and come on, Neil Young has been there for 40 years already! This is just my taste, of course. In my humble opinion, few Queen albums anyway - I think only "II", SHA, ANATO, ADATR and NOTW - are better than, say, Tori Amos' or Björk's albums so far. And Tori's coming with yet another new one, and I hope it'll be as good as the last one. This is just to say: TCR is not bad compared to other Queen albums. It's bad, to my taste, compared to other music acts and, above all, compared to their own skills: we're talking about Paul, Brian and Roger, not 50cent. ----- Be indulgent argument: there's the "be indulgent argument", according to which what's most important is that the guys did some new stuff and are happy about it. I can't accept this argument: I can't accept it for the simple reason that ever since 1991 - that is, almost 20!!! years - Brian and Roger haven't amounted to anything. Zero. Their impact on the music scene was about the same as mine. If after being stuck for 20 years the best you have to offer is TCR, then I'm sorry, I can't take the argument seriously. If TCR were a bad album in a thread of resonably good albums - just like Hot Space at the time - I'd say: "Cool. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It's like that when you're DOING MUSIC". But it's been almost 20 years ever since Freddie died and... Let's see what comes next. |
The Real Wizard 16.08.2009 23:03 |
doxonrox wrote: 1. Party/Khashoggi's Ship 2. Sweet Lady 5. Misfire 7. If You Can't Beat Them 12. All God's People 14. You Don't Fool Me Interesting list for Queen's worst. The few tracks I highlighted are pretty strong tracks in my books. |
john bodega 17.08.2009 02:55 |
Yeah I wouldn't throw "You Don't Fool Me" on a worst list. While there's obvious signs that it was stitched together from not-a-lot, it's a pretty good job. |
Erin 17.08.2009 11:56 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Some Things That Glitter is by far my favorite on the album. And yes, I agree 100% about the bass on TCR and John. [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img]Cincinnati Bow Tie wrote: TCR desperately misses a good bass player...even Danny Miranda would have added quite a bit to the songs. I don't think that the casual fan realizes what John Deacon added to the Queen sound. He is, IMO, one of hte best bass players in rock, he was a huge part of the "Queen" sound, and, without his bass lines, the majority of the record simply falls flat.Indeed. I've said it before, but the nearest thing (to my ears anyway) to old-Queen on TCR was "Some Things That Glitter". I suppose it's a less textured and less passionate sounding version of something like "Save Me". And what was one of the big differences? The bass track! |
mike hunt 17.08.2009 13:40 |
Sir GH wrote:doxonrox wrote: 1. Party/Khashoggi's Ship 2. Sweet Lady 5. Misfire 7. If You Can't Beat Them 12. All God's People 14. You Don't Fool MeInteresting list for Queen's worst. The few tracks I highlighted are pretty strong tracks in my books. I agree, all gods people, misfire, you don't fool me are good tunes in my book. Actually, party is the only song I don't like. Maybe sweet lady too. |
mike hunt 17.08.2009 13:43 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: You say Mike, that TCR makes Hot Space look brilliant. Well it always was![img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] lol, well, I wouldn't say brilliant, but hot space definitely has it's moments. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 18.08.2009 21:32 |
I think Hot Space has some very good songs. Dancer, for one, is a very good song which I think should have been played live and I think Calling All Girls is great as well. Also, why does it seem like most here dislike or resent The Works? I find it one of their easiest albums to listen to. It also has great tunes an production. IMO |
lalaalalaa 19.08.2009 07:56 |
Hot Space and the Works are both awesome. The Game is my least favorite. |
Wiley 19.08.2009 12:23 |
Not counting Flash Gordon, A Kind of Magic is -by far- the album I listen to least, followed by The Miracle, Jazz and -for some reason- Innuendo. I know Innuendo is a great album I just don't enjoy the mood of it. AKOM I just can't stand, really. "The Cosmos Rocks" is a very entertaining album for me to listen. It's got a great vibe to it and you can tell the guys poured their hearts in it... with mixed results, I guess, but I can certainly feel the chemistry between them. When I listen to Cosmos Rockin' I don't imagine three 60 year olds sitting in a studio recording a song only because they have to. They really sound like they are having a great time and I love that song. Still, WHY WOULDN'T THEY GET A BASS PLAYER???!! Songs like Small, We Believe and Some Things That Glitter are aching to have a proper bassline and not just Brian or Roger plucking on the root note of each chord. On the other hand, I think "Time to Shine" has a pretty neat bass line. Do you think Paul played that? |
PauloPanucci 19.08.2009 17:36 |
It could be more good if they had a bass player! |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 19.08.2009 22:59 |
They should have teamed up with Jimmy Page and Jonh Paul Jones. Now That is something I would pay to go see! Q+LZ!!!! (Queen+Led Zeppelin). They could also calll the band "Half+Half". Cuz it would be half of each band![img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] |
lalaalalaa 20.08.2009 08:00 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: They should have teamed up with Jimmy Page and Jonh Paul Jones. Now That is something I would pay to go see! Q+LZ!!!! (Queen+Led Zeppelin). They could also calll the band "Half+Half". Cuz it would be half of each band![img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] God knows Robert Plant won't do anything ;) |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 20.08.2009 11:02 |
Oh god. I know! I heard that Zep are not going to tour under the name of Led Zeppelin which I think is the right choice and is what Q+PR should've done. |
john bodega 20.08.2009 11:43 |
Led Zeppelin aren't doing anything, with or without Plant. They gave up. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 20.08.2009 12:31 |
I dont think that Zeppelin will ever exist without at least Plant. But I hate plant sometimes because he is stuck up his own ass so far! |
john bodega 20.08.2009 13:16 |
Nah. I love hearing him do Led Zeppelin stuff but the unfortunate fact is, he's usually right in his reasons for not doing it. The only thing Led Zeppelin have gotten wrong is not releasing the reunion on DVD. Regardless of what one thinks of it, they could make a penny or two. At least it's not the fuckin' Live Aid show.... fuck. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 20.08.2009 13:42 |
They should've put out bothe Earl's Court shows that were filmed (May 24+25) and the Knebworth shows in a box set together. I wish that Jimmy would understnad that we fans are fine if there are a few muted notes or vocal screw ups. Jimmy Page is the definition of perfectionist. I know this material is readily available to download, etc. But its great to have it official.[img=/images/smiley/msn/angry_smile.gif][/img] |
john bodega 20.08.2009 13:44 |
Indeed. More is always nice; but I'm thankful for the Zeppelin stuff that IS out there. It's a damn better job than what Queen has done so far. Instead of doing what Queen has done and releasing the same stale setlist time and again (and can you imagine how it'd be if they released Budapest as well!) the Led Zeppelin set covers most of their better songs over the whole of the time that the band existed. More of the Knebworth show would be cool but I really think the best stuff is on the DVD anyway. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 20.08.2009 17:09 |
Yes. Indeed. What they did put on the DVD is great and the quality is some of the best ive ever heard. Too bad so much of it is edited out/fixed/pasted from other nights etc. And how come on RAH '70 they had to cut out about a min. of page's solo on Comm. Breakdown, they completely cut out Thank You (???) and Long Tall Sally(???). ?????? It would be great for a Budapest release with the treatment that Wembley got. But I would much rather get a never-to-be-released-in-our-wildest-dreams boxset of Rainbow '74 Uncut, Hammy '75, and Earl's Court+Houston '77. I would say Hyde Park too, but this will NEVER, in all likelihood get a release apart from a snippet here or there, simply because of the quality. Have you seen the box sets that Genesis have done with their albums? Queen should do the same and also the same for a DVD set too. |
john bodega 20.08.2009 23:48 |
True enough. Having said that, I approached the Led Zeppelin DVD pretty much ignorant of their live catalogue. In fact the only live stuff I'd seen of them before the DVD was their Live Aid show. I wasn't cognizant of the edits and changes. It's nice to think that one day, as downloaded stuff starts to replace removable media like CDs and DVDs, bands will be able to release a lot more rarities because the "no one will buy it, so we can't press it" excuse will no longer be a concern. It probably won't be like that for a long while, and to be honest I prefer buying stuff in packages (I'd buy vinyl if I didn't already have the ones I want). But we can hope that there'll be a trend towards band catalogues expanding someday. At least, that's what I personally hope for! I know that waiting around for a band like Queen to release their version of the 'Anthology' is virtually pointless. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 21.08.2009 02:45 |
Do you have any idea how much my UK copy of Innuendo (Original, Vinyl) is worth? Cuz I was looking through some KISS albums the other day at my local used record shop and found a MINT COPY! Not even any ring wear!!! I live in Florida, so it was a blessing from above, and I know it is original. PCSD115 or whatever. I got it for 15 bucks! |
pittrek 21.08.2009 07:13 |
Actually it's one of 2 great albums I bought last year - the other is Death Magnetic |
mike hunt 21.08.2009 19:55 |
I feel sorry for these poor souls that think metallica are still great. The band hasn't put out a good album since the 80's. Poor wannabe young metal heads. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 22.08.2009 12:43 |
Really?!? Shoot me if you must, but I think Load is actually a really good album. Much better than The Black Album, in fact. ReLoad's not even that bad. St. Anger wouldn't have been bad if it werent for the production on it. Death Magnetic too is really good. Just get rid of one or two tracks on it and it might've been perfect. You just have to approach each album differently. |
PauloPanucci 22.08.2009 15:42 |
mike hunt wrote: I feel sorry for these poor souls that think metallica are still great. The band hasn't put out a good album since the 80's. Poor wannabe young metal heads. yeahhh... i agree... and: why metallica have a Guitar Hero and Queen not????? |
mike hunt 23.08.2009 00:00 |
Wow, metallica has a guitar hero?.....I'm not talking about Queen anyway. I'm talking about these young wannabe boys who think metallica are still cool. You are the people who need a lesson about what real thrash metal is about. Check out early slayer, exodus, the first 3 metallica albums. The first three anthrax, agnostic front. You little boys think metallica is still cool?...come on now!...they suck. Why arn't Queen on guitar hero?....Who cares. |
john bodega 23.08.2009 03:31 |
Hahah... worst defence I've ever heard. "They have a guitar heroooooooo". |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 23.08.2009 12:17 |
I know Metallica's first 3 albums pretty much defined thrash along with Slayer, Anthrax and many others. Mike Hunt, You should learn not to be so critical of music. It is what it is. Dont go bashing those that may like a certain type just because you dont. Unless it is any "Disney" artist or some country. No flame war was intended to be started by this post. |
PauloPanucci 23.08.2009 15:26 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Hahah... worst defence I've ever heard. "They have a guitar heroooooooo". i want i Queen guitar hero ;D kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 23.08.2009 16:31 |
All they would need on it are KYA, Bijou, Invisible Man and Dead On Time. If you're smart, you'll catch my drift. |
mike hunt 24.08.2009 00:19 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Hahah... worst defence I've ever heard. "They have a guitar heroooooooo". that was a true classic line. That kid is pretty funny I must admit. |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 24.08.2009 00:24 |
Indeed it was. Kids need to get off their asses and learn real instruments. I only like Guitar Hero/Rock Band because the introduce kids to good music instead of the shit on the radio today. "All We Hear Is Radio Ga Ga..." |
mike hunt 24.08.2009 00:36 |
QueenPaulo wrote:Zebonka12 wrote: Hahah... worst defence I've ever heard. "They have a guitar heroooooooo".i want i Queen guitar hero ;D kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Queenpaulo's Classic line! |
john bodega 24.08.2009 04:43 |
Lookin' Divine In Good Ol' '89 wrote: Indeed it was. Kids need to get off their asses and learn real instruments. I only like Guitar Hero/Rock Band because the introduce kids to good music instead of the shit on the radio today. "All We Hear Is Radio Ga Ga..."They're a fun party game, I'll admit that much. It's pretty far removed from the real thing of course, but from a rhythmic perspective it can actually serve as a sort of workout. |
lalaalalaa 24.08.2009 08:09 |
mike hunt wrote: I feel sorry for these poor souls that think metallica are still great. The band hasn't put out a good album since the 80's. Poor wannabe young metal heads. I prefer Megadeth ;) |
pittrek 24.08.2009 08:30 |
mike hunt wrote: Wow, metallica has a guitar hero?.....I'm not talking about Queen anyway. I'm talking about these young wannabe boys who think metallica are still cool. You are the people who need a lesson about what real thrash metal is about. Check out early slayer, exodus, the first 3 metallica albums. The first three anthrax, agnostic front. You little boys think metallica is still cool?...come on now!...they suck. Why arn't Queen on guitar hero?....Who cares. I'm not sure if you're talking to me, probably not because I'm not a "young wannabe boy" nor a "little boy" or a person "who need(s) a lesson about what real thrasth metal is about" and I don't think that "metallica are still cool", but I feel like answering ;) If you seriously think that Metallica sucks, did you actually hear the last album ? It's the best thing they've done since Justice. Actually sounds like "...And Justice For All vol. 2". Every Metallica album is fantastic, about how many bands (excluding Queen and The Beatles) can we say that ? Every Metallica album is different, but still great. The first Metallica album is slightly worse, but Lightning, Puppets and Justice are albums which should be heard by every person on this planet at least once in his life :-) |
lalaalalaa 24.08.2009 15:50 |
pittrek wrote:mike hunt wrote: Wow, metallica has a guitar hero?.....I'm not talking about Queen anyway. I'm talking about these young wannabe boys who think metallica are still cool. You are the people who need a lesson about what real thrash metal is about. Check out early slayer, exodus, the first 3 metallica albums. The first three anthrax, agnostic front. You little boys think metallica is still cool?...come on now!...they suck. Why arn't Queen on guitar hero?....Who cares.I'm not sure if you're talking to me, probably not because I'm not a "young wannabe boy" nor a "little boy" or a person "who need(s) a lesson about what real thrasth metal is about" and I don't think that "metallica are still cool", but I feel like answering ;) If you seriously think that Metallica sucks, did you actually hear the last album ? It's the best thing they've done since Justice. Actually sounds like "...And Justice For All vol. 2". Every Metallica album is fantastic, about how many bands (excluding Queen and The Beatles) can we say that ? Every Metallica album is different, but still great. The first Metallica album is slightly worse, but Lightning, Puppets and Justice are albums which should be heard by every person on this planet at least once in his life :-) I love Kill Em All! It's my second favorite Metallica album. Ride The Lightning is the best IMO Master of Puppets is very overrated in my opinion. It is a very boring album. I dose off every time I listen to it. The first two tracks are great, but after that...... As for Load and Reload: They're alright. A few good songs but overall not that great. There are some good tracks like King Nothing, Low Man's Lyric, and Prince Charming. St. Anger, in a word, is trash (again, just my opinion) Annoying trash can drums XPXPXPXP I don't listen to AJFA much but the Black album is also a pretty solid album. After the Black album it went downhill Death Magnetic gets better and better every time I listen to it, but James' voice has gotten worse than it ever has. As for Megadeth, I love all their albums :) |
mike hunt 25.08.2009 01:33 |
every metallica album is great?....that's the funniest thing I ever heard. Death magnetic is better than st. anger, but still sounds like a bloody mess. As for st. anger, that's the worst album I ever heard by a MaJor band. Worse than anything I ever heard, and if you think st. anger is good than that proves that you know nothing about real thrash. Look at the amazon reviews for that album. The Load albums are average at best, but at least they were trying something different. |
mike hunt 25.08.2009 01:39 |
lalaalalaa wrote:pittrek wrote:I love Kill Em All! It's my second favorite Metallica album. Ride The Lightning is the best IMO Master of Puppets is very overrated in my opinion. It is a very boring album. I dose off every time I listen to it. The first two tracks are great, but after that...... As for Load and Reload: They're alright. A few good songs but overall not that great. There are some good tracks like King Nothing, Low Man's Lyric, and Prince Charming. St. Anger, in a word, is trash (again, just my opinion) Annoying trash can drums XPXPXPXP I don't listen to AJFA much but the Black album is also a pretty solid album. After the Black album it went downhill Death Magnetic gets better and better every time I listen to it, but James' voice has gotten worse than it ever has. As for Megadeth, I love all their albums :)mike hunt wrote: Wow, metallica has a guitar hero?.....I'm not talking about Queen anyway. I'm talking about these young wannabe boys who think metallica are still cool. You are the people who need a lesson about what real thrash metal is about. Check out early slayer, exodus, the first 3 metallica albums. The first three anthrax, agnostic front. You little boys think metallica is still cool?...come on now!...they suck. Why arn't Queen on guitar hero?....Who cares.I'm not sure if you're talking to me, probably not because I'm not a "young wannabe boy" nor a "little boy" or a person "who need(s) a lesson about what real thrasth metal is about" and I don't think that "metallica are still cool", but I feel like answering ;) If you seriously think that Metallica sucks, did you actually hear the last album ? It's the best thing they've done since Justice. Actually sounds like "...And Justice For All vol. 2". Every Metallica album is fantastic, about how many bands (excluding Queen and The Beatles) can we say that ? Every Metallica album is different, but still great. The first Metallica album is slightly worse, but Lightning, Puppets and Justice are albums which should be heard by every person on this planet at least once in his life :-) yes, megadeth is better, and kill em all is light years better than those load albums and st. anger. Metallica did go downhill after the first 5 albums, I'll even say after the first 3 they went down hill. I was a huge metallica fan back in the day and bought master of puppets on it's first day of release, so let's not go there. Metallica has sucked since ciff burton died. How can you mention metallica and the beatles in the same sentence?...that's sad. |