I've just been listening to and watching some classic 70's Queen - moments like Son & Daughter, Brighton Rock, See What A Fool I've Been, Liar etc.. have some great extended parts live, with some improvised pieces thrown in, and it really emphasises how great John, Roger and Brian were as a 'bluesy power trio' in the vein of Cream etc.... it's not a style that they are recognised for, and they didn't stick with it once they started honing and crafting their 'hit' writing, but they could certainly do it when they toyed with it live.
honest, i think from 80-86 they should to have fired Freddie ...... his ideas were not worth it anymore, its like breaking up the relationship and taking the woman back when she is ready to take her place and not be a lunatic anymore.
andreas_mercury wrote:
honest, i think from 80-86 they should to have fired Freddie ...... his ideas were not worth it anymore, its like breaking up the relationship and taking the woman back when she is ready to take her place and not be a lunatic anymore.
Now THAT is something I had never read in this forum in about 10 years reading it, hehe :). I think you have a point, though.
The band chose to become a rock-pop band and play it safe after Hot Space, which I consider the band's last album in which they took a big risk. Freddie said their music was disposable pop and you can certainly say that of some of their 80's hit but not of most of their 70's output.
Think about this: What if they had made an album similar in style and production to Queen 2 or ANATO around 84? Songs like "It's a Hard Life" could have still made it into it.
Would most of us still be here if Queen hadn't gone the Works-AKOM way? Who knows.
<2>marcio17@queenzone.com wrote:
Regarding the Power Trio issue, I remember that Deaky said it once.
But, instead, I would say it was a Power Trio with a powerful singer. None of the three could sing to fit the Rock they made.
I have to disagree on that. Roger carried their vocals live - if not for him hitting the high notes, Freddie would have been an octave lower in many of the songs. While Rog probably couldn't sing the quiet bits as good as Fred, I think he could have handled the rock tracks just fine. But the question is - would he wear a leotard on stage?
That said, I think we have to recognize that Freddie was unique and special. They could have carried on as trio, but as Brian said, "a front man needs brass balls", and without a front man they would have been just another good band.
<5>marcio17@queenzone.com wrote:
Regarding the Power Trio issue, I remember that Deaky said it once.
But, instead, I would say it was a Power Trio with a powerful singer. None of the three could sing to fit the Rock they made.
I have to disagree on that. Roger carried their vocals live - if not for him hitting the high notes, Freddie would have been an octave lower in many of the songs. While Rog probably couldn't sing the quiet bits as good as Fred, I think he could have handled the rock tracks just fine. But the question is - would he wear a leotard on stage?
That said, I think we have to recognize that Freddie was unique and special. They could have carried on as trio, but as Brian said, "a front man needs brass balls", and without a front man they would have been just another good band.
Yes, but with or without Freddie they are great musicians. I would have still loved Queen if there was no Freddie and Brian and/or Roger did most/all the lead vocals.
It'd be interesting if they'd recorded more jams just like the one we hear on Live Killers after Brian's solo, when Roger and John come back to the stage, but still before Freddie comes back to finish Brighton Rock.
They sound so powerful!
they should have had instrumentals for sure. They were musically powerful, but don't forget freddie on the piano. I think the four of them could have wrote some great instrumentals to replace some of their weaker songs like fun it and more of that Jazz.
