| Micrówave 28.07.2009 15:03 |
Just kidding. I'm keeping all of mine. Who in their right mind sells right now? The economy is way down, people are not buying right now. You're getting pennies on the dollar for stuff. I would suggest a job. and maybe another CD rack. Box Sets and CDs are invading (again). And Ducksoup, we know. No need to start another thread. |
| PauloPanucci 30.07.2009 13:23 |
I'll not sell my Queen stuffs by nothing!!! i'll keep it with me 4ever... i think! |
| JimTheJag 30.07.2009 15:01 |
Maybe the people who are selling do have a job. Maybe the reason they're selling is not just about making space. Maybe it's not even about making large sums of money. Maybe they just got bored of collecting and because there's not so much for sale, don't add to their collections anymore. And maybe there are people out there who are buying the small amount of rarities that appear! (Even if you're not or you just don't see it). Maybe it's just about the music and not the collecting - you know, keep your standard CDs, singles boxsets and DVDs and get rid of the duplicates. Maybe they just don't need it or want it anymore. |
| PauloPanucci 30.07.2009 16:29 |
i'm not so crazy to trought my collection away! |
| Micrówave 05.08.2009 00:45 |
Maybe they shouldn't have bought it in the first place. Maybe they should spend their money a little more wisely. Maybe they shouldn't have bought The Miracle UK CD Single. Maybe they should have invested in junk bonds in the late 80s. Maybe they would be able to quit their job now. You're right, Jim. That's one heck of a lot of maybe's. Maybe someone on Queenzone will buy something from you. |
| bhm0129ad 07.08.2009 11:26 |
And the award for most pointless thread goes to... |
| PauloPanucci 08.08.2009 18:10 |
Micrówave wrote: Maybe they shouldn't have bought it in the first place. Maybe they should spend their money a little more wisely. Maybe they shouldn't have bought The Miracle UK CD Single. Maybe they should have invested in junk bonds in the late 80s. Maybe they would be able to quit their job now. You're right, Jim. That's one heck of a lot of maybe's. Maybe someone on Queenzone will buy something from you. and always gonna be MAYBE.. we don't know the reason of these peoples to sell the collections!! |
| Holly2003 08.08.2009 18:26 |
bhm0129ad wrote: And the award for most pointless thread goes to... I think he's is taking the piss because you're not supposed to use this forum to sell stuff, only trade. A lot of people abuse the fourm's rules, and since there's effectively no moderator, ridicule seems to be the only recourse. Or he's an idiot -- either way is good :) |
| PauloPanucci 09.08.2009 19:44 |
yeahh... the people don't want to trade... they want to make money!!! |
| JimTheJag 16.08.2009 19:32 |
Microwave, Surely I should be able to buy what I want when I want to and sell on if I want to as well? I don't think that anyone has the right to tell me otherwise. If you're not interested in buying, it's simple, don't respond. I don't see the need to go shooting people down in flames for wanting to sell stuff on. I work, I work hard and I earn a living, but I am getting married and need some extra cash, and probably some space too. I love my Queen collection and spent many a great day sourcing items and adding to it, but the time has come for it to go - no harm in that. It doesn't mean I'm not of the right mind, and there are people out there still collecting, despite the recession. I'm not looking for big bucks on my stuff, I'd be glad just to make back what I spent. But if that can't happen, so be it. As for "breaking rules", I thought it was just bootlegs we weren't allowed to sell here (I'm sure there was a thread concerning this before). If I'm on the wrong forum, then sorry, that would be a mistake, my sincerest apologies. And QueenPaulo, where do you think you get your Queen items from? Did it not cross your mind that the reason you have your stuff is because someone sold it on? And I bet you didn't lecture them on selling their stuff when you were buying it. |
| erick mckay 16.08.2009 19:42 |
I have nothing agains Queen paulo, even better he is the only one that defended me when I was trying to sell my items. In regards to you I'm standing u and applauding you, some members in here think either they own the site or just did not have a childhood and now they want to lay police and robbers or cowboys and indians. Yes I agree with you, if they don't want to sell just ignore it. You are the man...................... |
| Micrówave 18.08.2009 23:40 |
Jim,
Here's where you went wrong:
but I am getting married and need some extra cash, You'll never earn enough selling your entire Queen collection to pay for the divorce. Think it over... put the fiance on ebay instead. Yes, we are not supposed to be SELLING on here. Exactly!!! No moderation!!! You could be a moron and do what some people do: Start a "I'm selling my Queen Collection" thread with a link to ebay, which is a shamless ploy at (1) free advertising and (2) using QZone as a portal. Pretty easy to trust a "Queenzone Diety" rather than a "Newbie" and that's just plain wrong. The Newbie may be more honest and trustworthy than the Diety, yet won't get the same benefit in making money. |
| onevsion 19.08.2009 08:49 |
Micrówave wrote: You could be a moron and do what some people do: Start a "I'm selling my Queen Collection" thread with a link to ebay, which is a shamless ploy at (1) free advertising and (2) using QZone as a portal. Pretty easy to trust a "Queenzone Diety" rather than a "Newbie" and that's just plain wrong. The Newbie may be more honest and trustworthy than the Diety, yet won't get the same benefit in making money. You are such a hypocrite. The only comment you gave your buddy Dave when he was doing exactly the same (advertising his sales on Queenzone) was: and I quote you: "sweet". http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1179704.html |
| onevsion 19.08.2009 08:51 |
and another fine example: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1189544.html |
| Micrówave 19.08.2009 10:32 |
Ducksoup: I would be a hypocrite if I was starting these threads, but I'm not. I don't need to sell my Queen Collection. When I buy something, it's because I want it. You, on the other hand, really don't care... it's just about making a little money off of someone else's work. You're just pissed because I'm right. It's not fair what you do, but you'll keep going. I didn't pay Dave that two grand, I just commented at his take. Besides, Dave offers us quite a nice website. All you do is start "I'm Selling" threads every two weeks or so. A hypocrite is a person who's actions belie stated beliefs. Again, I have not sold anything or linked anyone to what I'm selling on ebay. That's you. Interestingly enough, take a look at these two definitions. They apply to you: Bootleg: something, as a recording, made, reproduced, or sold illegaly or without authorization Bootlegger: To make, transport, or sell something illegally, without registration, or payment of taxes. |
| onevsion 19.08.2009 13:39 |
What the fuck are you talking about twat? I'm not a bootlegger. I videotape concerts. That's it. Clearly you don't know the difference between a taper and a bootlegger. I feel sorry for your ignorance. |
| onevsion 19.08.2009 13:41 |
This is the second time you falsely accused me of bootlegging. Do you have proof for this? Damn. You're such a fuckin' wanker. |
| PauloPanucci 19.08.2009 17:49 |
now... i don't care more if the people want to sell his things... but it's not Collecting TRADE???????? i'm not against of sell things here, but........ i don't know what to say more!!! |
| Jjeroen 25.08.2009 05:23 |
Micrówave wrote: Ducksoup: I would be a hypocrite if I was starting these threads, but I'm not. I don't need to sell my Queen Collection. When I buy something, it's because I want it. You, on the other hand, really don't care... it's just about making a little money off of someone else's work. You're just pissed because I'm right. It's not fair what you do, but you'll keep going. I didn't pay Dave that two grand, I just commented at his take. Besides, Dave offers us quite a nice website. All you do is start "I'm Selling" threads every two weeks or so. A hypocrite is a person who's actions belie stated beliefs. Again, I have not sold anything or linked anyone to what I'm selling on ebay. That's you. Interestingly enough, take a look at these two definitions. They apply to you: Bootleg: something, as a recording, made, reproduced, or sold illegaly or without authorization Bootlegger: To make, transport, or sell something illegally, without registration, or payment of taxes. Man, what is your problem?? Since when is it a crime in here to link to private auctions on eBay or where ever? It never was, it never will be. Here on QZ, we have ZERO problems with people that want or need to sell a part of their collection presenting it straight to a group of people who might have interest in the items. Any "official" moderator of QZ would tell you the same. 'Making money from other peoples work'?? 'Unfair'??? WTF?? Give me a break - I never knew that clearing the attic was questionable. As much as selling records or memorabilia has NEVER been a questionable activity. If it comes from one's personal collection, or if one makes a living out of 'dealing' records does not make a difference. If you have a problem with it, you better complain to eBay or whatever auction or sale website, for there are MILLIONS of people clearing their attic every single day. Jees, it even seems that you find it unnatural for people to first want an item and later (maybe years or decades later) not seeing the same emotional value in them anymore and decide that they want to part with it. It's fine if you want to hold on to all the stuff you ever buy for the rest of your days - pascifiers and babydolls included. Be aware though: it takes space! Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you! And you are getting out of line with that bootlegging stuff you accuse Ducksoup of. (AGAIN!) Neither of your definitions apply to him. You are unrightfully accusing someone of illegal activities. In public! There actually is a legal definition for THAT! Go somewhere else with your obvious frustrations about God knows what. Cause it obviously is not Ducksoup selling his collection - if that IS the thing that realy frustrates you, you are pretty pathetic. |
| onevsion 25.08.2009 10:31 |
You said it all. Thanks for that. Some additions from my side about this "selling your queen collection" thing Microwave seems to have such a big problem with (altough I don't think that's his real problem with me. He's just trying to bully me..) If we read the subtitle of this Queen collecting and trading forum it reads: Discuss your recordings, swapping , no selling To me, and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong, the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's. We all know ROIO's and VOIO's are for free trade only (swapping): hence the 'no selling' part in the subtitle. Of course it's not forbidden to sell a Queen fan some LPs singles or memorabilia you have from your own personal collection and don't want anymore. Why would it be? On Queen's official webforum there's even a special corner for this (http://queenforum.parlophone.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=36&sid=720476ce98486f5164dc9d8190de2710) Also, as long as the official fan club publishes magazines one can send in personal adds to be published for free in the fanclub magazine. No problem at all. Microwave just can't stand me since the day I called most of his posts childish in another topic. That's when he started with al this childish bullyin' and libel at me. But listen Microwave, there's one thing you just must clearly understand:LIBEL (falsely accusing someone of punishable acts) is a crime. Also in your country. You did just that to me. TWICE. Think about it. |
| on my way up 25.08.2009 11:11 |
I don't understand what Microwave is going on about. What is the problem? Ducksoup bought official products and now wants to sell them. That is not only possible but it is also his right(unless the person who brought the product on the market decided otherwise, for example a free cd that was given away with a newspaper and may only be sold together with that newspaper)! And that bit between brackets is a regulation we only know in Belgium. From an intellectual property law- point of view there's no problem whatsoever. There's totally no problem selling such items and in my view also no problem to promote them here. If you want to sell your car you'd go to a forum about cars, not? |
| Jjeroen 25.08.2009 11:21 |
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Ducksoup wrote:
To me, and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong, the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's.
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Indeed. |
| Saint Jiub 25.08.2009 13:46 |
I think Microwave's panties are in a wad. No wonder he has so many to give away. |
| Micrówave 26.08.2009 03:00 |
Wow, Panchgani. I'm still on your mind? Instead of the panties, maybe I'll send you an 8x10 of me for you to hold up with one hand... Now, back to my "point". 1. 32 Ducksoup I'm Selling My Collection threads aren't really necessary, are they? Can't he just "BUMP" the original thread? 2. There is NO moderation for the selling of product on this site. Therefore, it shouldn't be used to do such. I think I've seen a couple of threads started by people getting ripped off. 3. And retouching my previous statement... Imagine an idiot like Erick McKay posting more senseless bullshit for the next six months. Next thing you know, he's a Queenzone Diety with 3000 posts. Then some unsuspecting victim thinks he's got credibility and might buy something he's selling instead of some honest "newbie" with 10 posts. That's not fair, and I believe in a fair market. |
| Micrówave 26.08.2009 03:05 |
and Jjereon...
Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you! Oh, thanks, I did not know that. So if I buy something and sell if for pennies on the dollar years later, I'm a wise investor? Please don't become a financial advisor. Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... except using this as a portal. See my above post about fair market. Again, stay away from the financial world. WIth respect, Jjereon. |
| Jjeroen 26.08.2009 04:35 |
Micrówave wrote: and Jjereon...Sorry, but if you are aged between 25 and 35 and still treasure all the stuff that you bought 15 to 20 years ago as much as you did back in the day, THEN there is something wrong with you!Oh, thanks, I did not know that. So if I buy something and sell if for pennies on the dollar years later, I'm a wise investor? Please don't become a financial advisor. Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... except using this as a portal. See my above post about fair market. Again, stay away from the financial world. WIth respect, Jjereon. I'm not talking about investments, Micro. Not all records I buy, I buy for their potential added value later on. As much as Ducksoup doesn't either, and I'm sure yourself. Besides; about the 'low' interest at the moment, that is not entirely true. The real gems still fetch their price. (Also Ducksoup had some very good deals for his MIH black vinyl, or his alternate cover Queen Rocks for instance!) On the other hand, a UK pressing Radio GaGa 7" fetches basically nothing and even economically glorious days won't make a difference that is worthy of mentioning. ALSO: second hand stuff in general rarely makes more money years later then the price it originally kost (taking relativity and inflation into acount). But the fun or use one had from the item over the years, is also worth a price. If I would sell stuff, I would not NEED more then the original buying price. Anyway; drifting off here. Bottom line is that Ducksoup is not a 'dealer', or investor, he's just a fan that got tired of having a house that is full of Queen stuff he is no longer interested in. Thus it needs to go. He has a couple of options: throwing the stuff in the dustbin, selling it on a flea market for one euro, or try make it two euro's on eBay. And as far as I can see, Ducksoup doesn't advertise any bootlegs in here! He has only advertised official 7"es, 12"es, albums, cassette-singles and promo-posters... |
| onevsion 26.08.2009 07:16 |
Micrówave wrote: Selling bootleg albums IS making money off an artist who is not paid for that bootleg and has no creative control over it. What's your problem, dude? If he's selling an official release, I have no problem with that... Why are you keep telling that? It's a blatant lie. I never sold bootlegs. I only advertised offiical released items such as: Vinyl / cassette singles / promo posters / dvds. My eBay feedback is 100% positive. I never ripped someone off. |
| onevsion 26.08.2009 07:23 |
Micrówave wrote: Now, back to my "point". 1. 32 Ducksoup I'm Selling My Collection threads aren't really necessary, are they? Can't he just "BUMP" the original thread? Again: what are you talking about? I made 2 topics in wich I advertised my "Queen collection for sale" One of them was bumped many times by myself when I had new items for sale. http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1161863.html You even made a joke about it ("mint bump") wich I thought was rather funny. Get your facts right Microwave: I'm not a bootlegger and I did not start God knows how many topics to sell my collection. Stop accusing me of things I didn't do. |
| onevsion 26.08.2009 07:34 |
Oh wait... I made 3 topics to sell the collection in a perdiod for over half a year time... http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1175078.html well well... that would be a crime.... 3 Queenzone topics in about six months time to sell the collection. That's completely unacceptable behaviour... LOL. |
| Rick 26.08.2009 10:03 |
Feel the heat, Microwave? I love irony and ambiguity. |
| onevsion 27.08.2009 14:59 |
well well.... looks like our dear friend Microwave has something to say: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1197516.html |
| erick mckay 27.08.2009 15:16 |
Ducksoup wrote: well well.... looks like our dear friend Microwave has something to say: http://www.queenconcerts.com/queenzone/1197516.html This has nothing to do with this issue here but this MICROSTOVE/OVEN/TOASTER/WAVE does not believe in JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go to serious discussion and read the latest, almost at the bottom. |
| onevsion 27.08.2009 15:23 |
erick mckay wrote:This has nothing to do with this issue here indeed. |
| Rubbersuit 27.08.2009 15:36 |
Last year I sold off a whole bunch of my Queen collection. Why? It was weighing me down. I've grown to a point where I enjoy the music, not the stuff. I don't need the backstage passes and multiple versions of the same album and picture discs.... I kept my CDs and DVDs of course, because I still enjoy those, but all of the stuff that's kept in boxes is now gone and I'm happier for it. |
| YourValentine 27.08.2009 16:10 |
Jjeroen wrote: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ducksoup wrote: To me, and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong, the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's. ----------------------------------------------------------------Yes, that is completely right and everybody understood it. |
| onevsion 27.08.2009 16:19 |
YourValentine wrote:Thanks again Barbara. I think Microwave understands it too now.Jjeroen wrote: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Ducksoup wrote: To me, and please YourValentine or Richard (the forum mods/owner) correct me if I'm wrong, the 'no selling' part has to do with recordings as in ROIO's and VOIO's. ----------------------------------------------------------------Yes, that is completely right and everybody understood it. |
| The Real Wizard 27.08.2009 18:54 |
erick mckay wrote: This has nothing to do with this issue here but this MICROSTOVE/OVEN/TOASTER/WAVE does not believe in JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! So? Did you know that the Jesus biography was recycled from about 15 other Egyptian, Indian, Persian, and Greek god figures that came before him? Have you heard of names like Horus, Attis, Dionysus, and Mithra? Probably not. Most sensible people in the 21st century don't blindly believe in two-thousand year old ancient myths, including Microwave. Good on him for taking a big step forward into the world of rational and critical thought. |
| Micrówave 27.08.2009 22:57 |
Does this mean I can have a hamburger on Fridays now? |
| JimTheJag 10.09.2009 10:50 |
No you can't. You already eat them Sunday - Thursday, so have a nice salad instead. It's healthier for you. Now don't stamp your feet or you can just go to your room and think about it until you're ready to come out and apologize. Anyway, Microwaved burgers are just too rubbery. |