QueenZone discussion #1189354

Marknow wrote: First person to start a thread announcing their boycott of the dvd because the artwork does not reflect the true artistic merit of Queen, will get a kick in the nuts. Great news.

brians wig wrote: It's been on the cards for a few years now, but what's stopped it coming out is the fact that the multi-track master tape for Now I'm Here was either damaged or missing. Obviously they've found it now or done some sort of work-around. Expect it to be 16:9 version.

Sebastian wrote: Finally! That's the Brian May this world needs: more DVD's, less American Idol.

dave76 wrote: i wonder what bonus footage will be on there (...)

Negative Creep wrote: I wonder if they'll use any of the Rainbow footage as "bonus material". Hammersmith is pretty short compared to previous live Queen DVDs.

Negative Creep wrote: Doesn't mean one camera wasn't still filming for whatever reason - that would be good enough reason not to include them in proper broadcasts.

pete66 wrote: Sure is Great news!! finely  a 70s concert  Hammersmith 75 maybe we will get Tokyo 75 as a bonus

pete66 wrote: Sure is Great news!! finely  a 70s concert  Hammersmith 75 maybe we will get Tokyo 75 as a bonus

victor fleitas wrote: I hope "beatifully restored" means, HD, 5.1 Sound

bitesthedust wrote: Was the entire show filmed? Not according to Queen Concerts - "64 minutes, professional recording. The BBC crew packed their cameras before the second encore, that's why Seven Seas Of Rhye and See What A Fool I've Been are not available on video."

victor fleitas wrote: if there is no multitrack, how they managed to remix the whole show for that 2005 radio broadcast? i dont understand...

victor fleitas wrote: if there is no multitrack, how they managed to remix the whole show for that 2005 radio broadcast? i dont understand...

Cwazy little thing wrote: Well its not impossible that they've found the multitrack - they'd have no reason to tell us!

victor fleitas wrote: well... maybe, but i dont think so... it is pointless to me, that they have made two completly different mixes of one show, especially considering that one sound a lot better than the other (and is better, it have the delay effect on brian's guitar during the march of the black queen for example) , the only answer is that the masters exists, but it is damaged, I remember reading that somewhere... maybe that is the reason that the rock n roll medley is missing on the 2005 radio broadcast version...maybe know, they were able to fix the multitracks by some new baking techniques (¿?) or something... i dont know... lets just be positive, because i already know what my christmas present will be this year...

victor fleitas wrote: WTF? I know that your nick name is really funny, but that doesnt mean that you have the right to critizize every idea or opinion... you dont have a clue if that what youre saying is true... and if you think about it, is really non-sence that they make two mixes on one night... what for?

Negative Creep wrote:

  Cwazy little thing wrote: Well its not impossible that they've found the multitrack - they'd have no reason to tell us!

It is when one didn't exist in the first place!?

      victor fleitas wrote:   thats not true... BBC Do record the multitracks, BB king played live on the bbc, and when it was released, the multittracks were remixed, there are a lot of elton john recordings that as well are remastered from the multitracks...  

Cwazy little thing wrote:

  Negative Creep wrote:  

      Cwazy little thing wrote:   Well its not impossible that they've found the multitrack - they'd have no reason to tell us!  

It is when one didn't exist in the first place!?

Well, fair enough then. It seems odd to release this incomplete show, which doesnt have a multitrack, ahead of other stuff which is supposed to be in the archives complete and with multitracks for a proper 5.1 mix, but these days the releases are never what you would expect! Its a 70's show though, and thats a massive step forward!

Negative Creep wrote:

  Cwazy little thing wrote:  

      Negative Creep wrote:      

              Cwazy little thing wrote:       Well its not impossible that they've found the multitrack - they'd have no reason to tell us!      

It is when one didn't exist in the first place!?

Well, fair enough then. It seems odd to release this incomplete show, which doesnt have a multitrack, ahead of other stuff which is supposed to be in the archives complete and with multitracks for a proper 5.1 mix, but these days the releases are never what you would expect! Its a 70's show though, and thats a massive step forward!

Well, they didn't bother going back to the multitracks for Wembley either - they produced a pseudo 5.1 mix instead.

Negative Creep wrote:

victor fleitas wrote: thats not true... BBC Do record the multitracks, BB king played live on the bbc, and when it was released, the multittracks were remixed, there are a lot of elton john recordings that as well are remastered from the multitracks...

In the past few years they may have recorded things to multitrack if they were looking into a DVD release of something, I can almost guarantee you no multitrack recordings exist for BBC recordings from the 60's through to well past 2000. Bit of a pointless discussion though - because, for the tenth time, no BBC multitracks exist for Hammersmith. If a multitrack recordinging has suddenly surfaced, it would have been done independently of the BBC - the chances of this happening though are extremely slim.

Yara wrote: I'm old-fashioned. I'll wait until the DVD gets released to criticize it.

  pittrek wrote:  

      Negative Creep wrote:  

      victor fleitas wrote:   thats not true... BBC Do record the multitracks, BB king played live on the bbc, and when it was released, the multittracks were remixed, there are a lot of elton john recordings that as well are remastered from the multitracks...      

      In the past few years they may have recorded things to multitrack if they were looking into a DVD release of something, I can almost guarantee you no multitrack recordings exist for BBC recordings from the 60's through to well past 2000. Bit of a pointless discussion though - because, for the tenth time, no BBC multitracks exist for Hammersmith. If a multitrack recordinging has suddenly surfaced, it would have been done independently of the BBC - the chances of this happening though are extremely slim.      

      How do you explain the existence of 2 DIFFERENT RADIO mixes ?          

  Negative Creep wrote:  

      brians wig wrote:   It's been on the cards for a few years now, but what's stopped it coming out is the fact that the multi-track master tape for Now I'm Here was either damaged or missing. Obviously they've found it now or done some sort of work-around. Expect it to be 16:9 version.  

No multitrack recordings exists, as it was recorded by the BBC who record live straight to 2 track. 2 live mixes were done on the go - one for the TV feed and one for radio. And of course it won't be in widescreen?! I think they've learnt by now that you don't do go fucking around with aspect ratios of archive material, especially when such a process will amplify any limitations of the original footage!

pittrek wrote: Don't get too excited. I expect a 2 DVD release, 1st disc being the gig (the TV broadcast edit), and the second disc being an interview with Bob Harris + the BBC performances. Or they may even squeeze it to 1 DVD

pittrek wrote:

Negative Creep wrote:

victor fleitas wrote: thats not true... BBC Do record the multitracks, BB king played live on the bbc, and when it was released, the multittracks were remixed, there are a lot of elton john recordings that as well are remastered from the multitracks...

In the past few years they may have recorded things to multitrack if they were looking into a DVD release of something, I can almost guarantee you no multitrack recordings exist for BBC recordings from the 60's through to well past 2000. Bit of a pointless discussion though - because, for the tenth time, no BBC multitracks exist for Hammersmith. If a multitrack recordinging has suddenly surfaced, it would have been done independently of the BBC - the chances of this happening though are extremely slim.

How do you explain the existence of 2 DIFFERENT RADIO mixes ?

  Negative Creep wrote: As I previously said, if there's a multitrack it will have been recorded independently of the BBC by the band/management. That said, do you honestly think QP went and remixed it (which would have involved baking the tapes, transfering to digital, mixing it and mastering it) for some random Swedish radio station? Don't think so. I don't recall hearing this supposed 2005 remix - are you sure it isn't just the TV mix cleaned up? Brian commented on not being able to go back and dramatically improve the audio, didn't he though??

Negative Creep wrote: I don't recall hearing this supposed 2005 remix - are you sure it isn't just the TV mix cleaned up?

      StoneColdClassicQueen wrote:   Look on his soapbox again. He says that he wants fans to find some stuff for the dvd. And that there will be a prize... So does anyone have anything?  

Negative Creep wrote: Well, they didn't bother going back to the multitracks for Wembley either - they produced a pseudo 5.1 mix instead.

fly wrote: Although I'm not so excited as I would be some 6, 10 years ago, I'm glad we're finally have official 1970s live concert! I was kinda hopeing they have the video from the missing three tracks, but the don't. I wanted to ask this: Is there a chance for some other complete video concert from the opera tour 75/76? I can't belive when they toured the states and especially Japan, the didn't record something in Japan in 1976!? (after haveing such big success with their first visit to Japan previous year!

Queenman!! wrote: Well said... Bunch of fuckers!

brians wig wrote:

 Negative Creep wrote:

brians wig wrote: It's been on the cards for a few years now, but what's stopped it coming out is the fact that the multi-track master tape for Now I'm Here was either damaged or missing. Obviously they've found it now or done some sort of work-around. Expect it to be 16:9 version.

No multitrack recordings exists, as it was recorded by the BBC who record live straight to 2 track. 2 live mixes were done on the go - one for the TV feed and one for radio. And of course it won't be in widescreen?! I think they've learnt by now that you don't do go fucking around with aspect ratios of archive material, especially when such a process will amplify any limitations of the original footage!

Come on mate. QPL are a law unto themselves, and Brian has seen the Japanese widescreen abortion, er broadcast and he likes it, then who is to say what he won't do with HIS material !!!! Well, multitrack masters or not. i heard a few years ago that Now I'm Here was missing hence it had been put on the back boiler. Anyway, whatever the problem was, it's coming now and that's all that matters :)

inu-liger wrote:

brians wig wrote:

 Negative Creep wrote:

brians wig wrote: It's been on the cards for a few years now, but what's stopped it coming out is the fact that the multi-track master tape for Now I'm Here was either damaged or missing. Obviously they've found it now or done some sort of work-around. Expect it to be 16:9 version.

No multitrack recordings exists, as it was recorded by the BBC who record live straight to 2 track. 2 live mixes were done on the go - one for the TV feed and one for radio. And of course it won't be in widescreen?! I think they've learnt by now that you don't do go fucking around with aspect ratios of archive material, especially when such a process will amplify any limitations of the original footage!

Come on mate. QPL are a law unto themselves, and Brian has seen the Japanese widescreen abortion, er broadcast and he likes it, then who is to say what he won't do with HIS material !!!! Well, multitrack masters or not. i heard a few years ago that Now I'm Here was missing hence it had been put on the back boiler. Anyway, whatever the problem was, it's coming now and that's all that matters :)

I read some time ago last year that the video master had some damage(?) on "Now I'm Here", and that they were waiting out on a DVD release until they could locate the Japanese broadcast masters. Anyways, question for Negative Creep: Have you even heard the 2005 radio broadcast and compared it to the original broadcast mix(es)? I remember it was fixed up pretty well, and that would be hard to do that kind of work with only stereo masters to work with. At the moment, am looking for my copy of the 2005 broadcast FLAC's so I can re-listen to them...

pittrek wrote:

  Queenman!! wrote: Well said... Bunch of fuckers!

Now imagine that Greg reads this and reports Brian our reactions, what would he think about this one ? :-)

vadenuez wrote: Correction to Sebastian: 10. A 'Making of...' special where Brian says Lap of the Gods... Revisited from A Day at The Races is in 3/4  [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img]

Benn wrote: 31 - if all the above are purchased together, you get the bonus of a lifesize replica of Mr. Freddie Mercury.  This one comes with various outfits (Zandra Rhodes '74, Wembley '86, Hammersmith '79) complete with matching hair-pieces and facial hair.

Sebastian wrote: 36. Loads of photos... but not Queen photos - clouds!

silver_salmon wrote: 39. A Night At The Opera "34th Aniversary edition" (Long Box edition) with an extra Blue Ray with "The making of The Making of A Night at the Opera" and "2 songs from Live Aid '85"

Penetration_Guru wrote: Any chance we can have a serious thread on the subject as well as the comedy one?

Kevinrm15 wrote: What if for the next DVD they made it a Double-DVD with one disc being the Fort Worth show from 1977 then on the other disc the famous Houston show.  Wouldn't that be awesome?