| Marknow 01.07.2009 12:26 |
From Dimeadozen link Queen Cologne, Sartory 6th December 1974 “Sheer heart attack”-Tour H-I-S-T-O-R-I-C-A-L Mono-recording in 'bad' quality! But, you will get a complete “Sheer heart attack”-show (it is complete, it’s my tape!!). Location: about 10 meters in front of the stage, just in the middle. Lineage: Blaupunkt Cassette-Recorder plus Blaupunkt microphone (mono); digitalize from Nakamichi Cassette machine to Philips CDR 770 Audio-CD-Recorder >Audio CD-R>Audiograbber>Tapers Little Helper: Flac (level 6) 01 Intro/Now I’m here 02 Ogre battle 03 Father to son 04 White Queen 05 Flick of the wrist 06 In the lap of the gods 07 Killer Queen/March of the Black Queen/Leroy Brown 08 Son and daughter/May solo 09 Keep yourself alive 10 Seven seas of Rhye 11 Stone cold crazy 12 Liar 13 In the lap of the gods 14 Big spender/Modern times Rock’n’ Roll 15 Jailhouse Rock 16 God save the Queen |
| MarkRW 01.07.2009 13:24 |
Many thanks - I totally missed this one on Dime (it must be down to to the heat!!) |
| vivaqueen 01.07.2009 14:54 |
MERCI BEAUCOUP FOR YOU GIFT |
| Ginger01 01.07.2009 15:00 |
Thanks so much for upping this here - I'll help seed :) |
| Tim June 01.07.2009 15:07 |
Thank you very much! Interesting show. |
| Rami 01.07.2009 15:41 |
Thank you very very much!!!! |
| dunga 01.07.2009 16:35 |
thanks for this!! |
| sexmachine 01.07.2009 18:26 |
so, what does the experts say? upgrade or fakemaster? thanks for uploading anyway! |
| onevsion 01.07.2009 19:38 |
sexmachine wrote: so, what does the experts say? upgrade or fakemaster? thanks for uploading anyway! curious too. I sent the uploader on Dime a PM. Hope he answers... |
| Madman 02.07.2009 03:03 |
The sound is mono, on one speaker, quite clear with good bass and small hiss on the background. Realy nice to my ears. For me it sound like previous release, from Gypsy Eye have some EQ job (more treble, less bass) and/or come from worser tape (so more hiss). This "new tape" have more clear vocal not so distorted, mentioned more bass (wow, do You hear John job with this) and overal sound is just better. In first play maybe sound "muffled" but then it's ok. "First tape" (tr 1-8) ended with full Son And Daughter with Roger's full ending on drums, then the tape was stoped and record again some second from audience the again stop - GE copy ended with fade out in Son And Daughter. "Second tape" start when Freddie say "nice" - GE copy start from fade in with "thank You, nice". Don't know what to think about GSTQ - looks like a taper stoped recorder after Jailhouse Rock but when mentioned that some other song (QSTQ) is played push the record button one more time. But as SirGH mentioned the band start to use this music from early 1975. Sound like a upgrade but still wonder if this realy come from master. For sure lower generation tape. Any other opinions? If this is a fake I'm deaf :/ |
| Lazing On A Sunday Afternoon 02.07.2009 09:55 |
Thanks a lot! It sounds a bit better than the Gipsy eye release, a nice upgrade :) |
| The Real Wizard 03.07.2009 21:18 |
Madman wrote: But as SirGH mentioned the band start to use this music from early 1975. Most likely... but I can't be 100% sure without more 1974 recordings, especially from December. But it does seem like GSTQ was later added to the Cologne 1974 recording. It even plays at a different speed. But of course there's the chance that the taper pressed record once again and it taped at a different speed. Let's see what his response is, if any... |
| Madman 04.07.2009 02:30 |
Do you remember Glasgow '75 recording from master when taper add later some other song(s) to make more complete recording? Maybe this time the same happen and the end.. Let's wait for any response. |
| hermenegildo 04.07.2009 08:22 |
Hi everybody. When I try to open the torrent file with Bit Torrent it goes "invalid torrent file" (impossible to load)... Any ideas about this kind of error ? Thanks! Marcelo |
| onevsion 08.07.2009 07:01 |
Ducksoup wrote:sexmachine wrote: so, what does the experts say? upgrade or fakemaster? thanks for uploading anyway!curious too. I sent the uploader on Dime a PM. Hope he answers... UPDATE! Today I recieved a PM from the uploader on Dime in wich he confirmed that he was indeed the taper of this show. Also, he said that he never taped another a Queen show. |
| Queenrockyou 08.07.2009 08:16 |
Ducksoup wrote:Ducksoup wrote:UPDATE! Today I recieved a PM from the uploader on Dime in wich he confirmed that he was indeed the taper of this show. Also, he said that he never taped another a Queen show.sexmachine wrote: so, what does the experts say? upgrade or fakemaster? thanks for uploading anyway!curious too. I sent the uploader on Dime a PM. Hope he answers... OK, nice he answered you !! To complete the info.txt file, can you tell us what his name / surname is ? So, has he talked about God Save The Queen ? Is it definitely coming from the same concerts ? Thanks for the transmission of the information. Regards, Olivier, Belgium. Ps : check your mail box ! |
| The Real Wizard 08.07.2009 10:25 |
I heard back from him too. He says the whole thing is genuine. So he must have stopped the recorder, thinking the show was over, but pressed record again once he realized something else was being played... which explains the cut at the beginning of GSTQ. Thank goodness for places like Dime for the tapers to show up and tell the truth and put the lies of certain collectors to rest. |
| PiotreQ 08.07.2009 12:07 |
Does anybody know what is a name/nickname of the taper? |
| CGtteir 08.07.2009 13:05 |
PiotreQ wrote: Does anybody know what is a name/nickname of the taper? His ID on Dime is Jogi666. |
| PiotreQ 08.07.2009 13:37 |
Thanks! |
| Farrokh The Great 10.07.2009 13:56 |
Thank You very much Marknow, I hope this one will be an upgrade Best Regards |
| tassilo 11.07.2009 12:12 |
Thanks! |
| Mr. Scully 11.07.2009 12:44 |
So should I burn this master and trash the old version? It's shorter (=faster) than the old version; is THIS the correct speed? |
| The Real Wizard 11.07.2009 13:54 |
Mr. Scully wrote: So should I burn this master and trash the old version? It's shorter (=faster) than the old version; is THIS the correct speed? Most of the recording plays a bit too fast (minus GSTQ) - but it is all genuine, as the taper confirmed it. That said, never trash an old copy. You never know when you might need to reference it for some reason. |
| Mr. Scully 11.07.2009 14:48 |
Sir GH wrote:Yeah, "never trash" - obviously you haven't seen the amount of CD's in my flat :-)Mr. Scully wrote: So should I burn this master and trash the old version? It's shorter (=faster) than the old version; is THIS the correct speed?Most of the recording plays a bit too fast (minus GSTQ) - but it is all genuine, as the taper confirmed it. That said, never trash an old copy. You never know when you might need to reference it for some reason. |
| pittrek 11.07.2009 15:03 |
Mr. Scully wrote:Sir GH wrote:Yeah, "never trash" - obviously you haven't seen the amount of CD's in my flat :-)Mr. Scully wrote: So should I burn this master and trash the old version? It's shorter (=faster) than the old version; is THIS the correct speed?Most of the recording plays a bit too fast (minus GSTQ) - but it is all genuine, as the taper confirmed it. That said, never trash an old copy. You never know when you might need to reference it for some reason. You can always 1) buy a bigger flat 2) give your collection to another collector :-) |
| rocking-granny 23.10.2009 11:29 |
thanks for this wonderful german crownjewels, freddie likes to say the bigger the better, i like to say the older the better. |
| Gregsynth 11.04.2010 17:55 |
Please seed! |
| Gregsynth 11.04.2010 17:56 |
Please seed! |
| Gregsynth 11.04.2010 17:58 |
Please seed! |
| ediemercury 10.06.2010 21:27 |
Hello everybody. Im new in Queenzone and just wanna say Thank for all these uploads of Queen Bootlegs! I downloaded this and i had known that concert run a bit too fast. So i put in the softer Audacity and i would like to know the best way to fix it. Anyone knows? What the right pitch: (000), (- 0,50)? What the tempo: - 2%? Or i just should change all in the speed function (pitch/tempo at the same time)? Thank u and sorry for my bad english.. |
| The Real Wizard 10.06.2010 21:36 |
Be sure to change both the pitch and speed. These recordings are from old tapes, so both the speed and pitch are off when the tape runs too slow/fast. |
| ediemercury 14.06.2010 15:40 |
In fact I changed the in the speed funcion (pitch / tempo) at the same time. This correct? And I downloaded 2 versions of this show available on Queenzone. From torrent posted in 2009 and Mediafire (2007). That version ( mediafire 2007) seems to be better, sharper, louder than the posted later. Have you noticed this difference? |
| pittrek 15.06.2010 02:18 |
Sir GH wrote: Be sure to change both the pitch and speed. These recordings are from old tapes, so both the speed and pitch are off when the tape runs too slow/fast.Has somebody done a speed-corrected version ? Do you have time ? :-) |
| The Real Wizard 15.06.2010 11:38 |
ediemercury wrote: "In fact I changed the in the speed funcion (pitch / tempo) at the same time. This correct?" Indeed. "That version ( mediafire 2007) seems to be better, sharper, louder than the posted later." That one is from a bootleg label, Gypsy Eye. They did hiss reduction, EQ'd it a bit, and added this crackling sound they usually add to their recordings (this bootleg label is notorious for purposely making recordings worse quality). My vote still goes for the uncut master from 2009. Nothing beats the master tape from the taper himself. To my ears it has more depth and punch. pittrek wrote: "Has somebody done a speed-corrected version ? Do you have time ? :-)" Honestly, not for this one. It only plays very slightly too fast, so I don't think it really merits the work required. Give me a recording from LA 12-22-77 and I'll fix the speed 'til the cows come home. :-) |
| ediemercury 17.06.2010 13:39 |
THANKS SIR GH for the link of master tape and explanations!! So, the version of the link (mediafire 2007), was altered by the label (Gps. Eye)? Although it has been equalized, has defects (crackling sounds, etc.), right? This explains why Stone Cold Crazy of this version has little noises on the first solo. It was purposeful? Despite being a detail, I would like to adjust a little pitch / speed of this concert to finalize the CD. You know the correct settings to enter in Audacity? In numbers. |
| The Real Wizard 17.06.2010 14:32 |
No problem. Happy to help ! Sorry, I don't know Audacity. For simple audio editing, I use GoldWave. Yes, bootleg companies tend to alter the sound of recordings, but not always. These things become really obvious when you hear the source tape, but sometimes a sound alteration can be obvious enough (like on most of Gypsy Eye's bootlegs). |
| ediemercury 18.06.2010 11:08 |
I dont understand why they do it, but whatever. Could you pass some configuration setting GoldWave for this concert, please? I'll try to fix it. Thanks! |
| The Real Wizard 18.06.2010 13:04 |
ediemercury wrote: "I dont understand why they do it, but whatever." Because they'd rather keep the better-sounding version for themselves and make money off an inferior copy. "Could you pass some configuration setting GoldWave for this concert, please? I'll try to fix it." You can adjust it in units of semitone (in case you're not a musician, it's the distance between C and C sharp, for example). Slowing it down half a semitone should do it. Select effects/pitch, make it -1 semitone and fine tune it up 0.5. Good luck ! |
| ediemercury 18.06.2010 20:58 |
Did you mean half semitone? It would be (-0.5) instead of -1? A semitone below seemed very slow and bass. -0.5 seemed ideal. Please correct me if I'm wrong. THANKS AGAIN! !! |
| The Real Wizard 18.06.2010 22:37 |
I meant.. fine tune it 50. That's a half semitone :-) |
| ediemercury 22.06.2010 00:12 |
Confirming the configuration: Semitone: (- 0.5) Fine Tune: 50 Right? |
| The Real Wizard 22.06.2010 01:20 |
I'm using an older version of GoldWave (4.26) where you can only adjust the semitone in increments of 1, and fine tune for a partial semitone. But if your version lets you adjust the semitone with a decimal point, then -0.5 semitone is all you'll need to do. Feel free to post a sample here once you've finished. |
| ediemercury 22.06.2010 14:03 |
Anyway, these numbers automatically adjust the speed? I will gladly post some examples here after correcting these songs. Thank you for the tips! |
| The Real Wizard 28.06.2010 12:12 |
Indeed, if the function is the same as my version of GoldWave, this should affect both the pitch and the speed. You'll know for sure if the length of the recording is different once you're done. Any luck so far? |
| ediemercury 30.06.2010 15:57 |
So far all right, GoldWave 5:56 also affect speed. : ) My doubt to continue, is that a friend told me that this concert pitch and speed should be adjusted separately. According the adjustment he pass me, the time of the music dropped in 2 seconds compared to what I was doing in GoldWave. He also told me that according to his research, for each semitone wrong alters 4% in velocity, so half semitone (-0.50) I should adjust - 2%, this in Audacity that allows you to adjust them separately. But in GoldWave regulating at the same time is: semitone - 0.50 = speed: -2.847% almost 3%. I'm a little confused, although I believe when this tape problem occurs, both change simultaneously (pitch / speed) as you taught me. Despite being a detail is just what I need to know to finish the cd. So I can post this gig here with that correct speed, if you will. THANK YOU! |
| The Real Wizard 30.06.2010 16:43 |
Now we're getting really scientific, and outside of my expertise. The difference here is pretty microscopic. Just use your best judgment and I'm sure it'll turn out great. |
| ediemercury 30.06.2010 20:54 |
HAHAHHAHh .. ok! Good answer. Anyway you help me so much and i am close to the right way. Soon I'll post this concert as close to real. |
| TimBHM 26.12.2010 16:18 |
Thanks for this. Did the speed-corrected version ever get put up? |
| tsrts1972 21.12.2012 05:28 |
Can anyone would help to reseed this little odd baby? |
| Marknow 21.12.2012 05:37 |
tsrts1972 wrote: Can anyone would help to reseed this little odd baby? Seeding for you now. :) |
| The Real Wizard 21.12.2012 10:39 |
I'm seeding too. |
| Elias Pies de Plomo 08.10.2014 09:37 |
Hello, Could anybody seed this one for me? I really want it. I have already hit the torrent file. Thanks. |
| Elias Pies de Plomo 08.10.2014 09:37 |
Hello, Could anybody seed this one for me? I really want it. I have already hit the torrent file. Thanks. |
| Ale Solan 08.10.2014 10:29 |
Elias Pies de Plomo wrote: Hello, Could anybody seed this one for me? I really want it. I have already hit the torrent file. Thanks.Here: https://mega.co.nz/#!4FlkCIwD!eYi2-QQSMBAcrB8hMBsMwnPD0vI_001cbreiq2fCXXQ |
| Elias Pies de Plomo 08.10.2014 16:47 |
Thanks, Ale Solan. It didn't need to have been so fast, but hell thanks twice then. Is this an upgrade to the torrent? |
| Ale Solan 08.10.2014 18:21 |
Elias Pies de Plomo wrote: Thanks, Ale Solan. It didn't need to have been so fast, but hell thanks twice then. Is this an upgrade to the torrent?it's the same share than the torrent, the best one so far ;) |
| Egietje 01.11.2019 20:12 |
Can someone reupload this? |
| Chinwonder2 01.11.2019 21:28 |
Here you go! link -Chin |
| Viper 04.11.2019 10:13 |
thanks! |
| hannahjo 22.04.2020 12:41 |
Thanks for the link Chinwonder2 |