| City-in-the-Sun 15.06.2009 14:01 |
Once upon a time In a far far away land , a land of Plenty, there was a rumour that somebody had taken the stereo line out feeds ,that feed certain Powered monitors.. and in those powered monitors, there Lay an old and frail recording tape machine whose only aim in life was to capture pure Rawness in music.. Myth or Fact??? whats your story how did YOU get your recordings[img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img] |
| onevsion 15.06.2009 15:40 |
Sneak recording gear into the venue, set the levels, press record and there you go. |
| rschoorl 15.06.2009 16:15 |
Ditto to Ducksoup.....and then trade your recording to someone who had a different recording so that you all had more recordings. |
| ParisNair 16.06.2009 05:10 |
Was carrying tape recorders to concerts allowed in the 70s/80s? or was the security just lax? I have seen a Queen concert video in which a guy is very close to the stage and is holding a tape recorder high up. I mean he was making no attempt to hide it. Can't recall which concert, though. But I remember this question crossing my mind then too. |
| rschoorl 16.06.2009 06:53 |
At the time security was more concerned with drugs and alcohol. I was stopped a few times in the 100 or so that I brought equipment in. I didn't walk in with it out in the open, but certainly would be found in the frisks that they do today, which weren't done back then. If I was stopped, I would give them my batteries so I wouldn't have to give up my recorder.....and then break out the extra batteries that I had in my socks. (but I rarely had to do that). The toughest thing in my mind, was enjoying the show while trying to pay attention to the time to try to get a smooth, fast tape flip in order to not lose too much show. |
| The Royalist 16.06.2009 07:15 |
Great topic. In my younger days I never taped my concerts but bought a few from the usual disreputable sources and then swapped, swapped, swapped. It's a pity Noel (younger people will know him from Deal or no Deal fame) Edmonds didn't allow bootleg trading on Swap Shop. I knew a guy who whenever a rock band was playing the Glasgow Apollo would tape the concert - he couldn't afford tickets for all the groups- from the alley outside. He used to get brilliant recordings but it was a bummer for him when somebody passed by or nipped in for a piss. Nowadays the trend for taping snippets on mobile phones and posting on you tube is very prevalent. Quite like this as it gives an indication of what the concert was like but I rarely (confession time, only two or three times, honest your honour) do this as I prefer watching the gig without worrying about having a shoddy shaky video shot. |
| john bodega 16.06.2009 07:24 |
I've taped one show in my life. link The conditions for entry to the gig were pretty clear: basic cameras were allowed, but no professional equipment. Considering the video I took was with a $300 camera, I can understand their reasons for not letting in the expensive stuff. |
| Bigfish 16.06.2009 08:05 |
Tried to record the Milton keynes gig on my old tape recorder - it was so big I had to buy a ticket for it. Unfortunately I ran out of coal halfway through NOW I¨M HERE. |
| brians wig 16.06.2009 09:57 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I've taped one show in my life. linkThe conditions for entry to the gig were pretty clear: basic cameras were allowed, but no professional equipment. Considering the video I took was with a $300 camera, I can understand their reasons for not letting in the expensive stuff. And it's not even Queen related. Shame on you Zebonka! Hey. Are you the scray guy with the long hair? He looks like a 60's rock star! |
| on my way up 16.06.2009 11:34 |
The Royalist wrote:
I knew a guy who whenever a rock band was playing the Glasgow Apollo would tape the concert - he couldn't afford tickets for all the groups- from the alley outside. He used to get brilliant recordings but it was a bummer for him when somebody passed by or nipped in for a piss.
Was that in the seventies? I know a rockband who played great shows at the Apollo :-) |
| onevsion 16.06.2009 13:10 |
Bigfish wrote: Tried to record the Milton keynes gig on my old tape recorder - it was so big I had to buy a ticket for it. Unfortunately I ran out of coal halfway through NOW I¨M HERE. You have a PM! |
| david (galashiels) 16.06.2009 13:14 |
zebonka.how did you manage to get a 45min,video on youtube.thought the limit was 10 mins. |
| john bodega 16.06.2009 13:15 |
david (galashiels) wrote: zebonka.how did you manage to get a 45min,video on youtube.thought the limit was 10 mins.I was lucky! |
| onevsion 16.06.2009 13:17 |
rschoorl wrote: At the time security was more concerned with drugs and alcohol. I was stopped a few times in the 100 or so that I brought equipment in. I didn't walk in with it out in the open, but certainly would be found in the frisks that they do today, which weren't done back then. If I was stopped, I would give them my batteries so I wouldn't have to give up my recorder.....and then break out the extra batteries that I had in my socks. (but I rarely had to do that). The toughest thing in my mind, was enjoying the show while trying to pay attention to the time to try to get a smooth, fast tape flip in order to not lose too much show. I heard similar stories about taping in the 70's and 80's. Contrary to what some people tend to believe security wasn't that tight on taping in the 70's and 80's. If you know what you're doing, these days bringing in the equipment still really isn't a problem. Just be creative. :-) To Rob: nice to read you taped so many shows..! |
| onevsion 16.06.2009 13:22 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I've taped one show in my life.link The conditions for entry to the gig were pretty clear: basic cameras were allowed, but no professional equipment. Considering the video I took was with a $300 camera, I can understand their reasons for not letting in the expensive stuff. Not bad at all for a first video...! My first one was a lot worse... |
| john bodega 17.06.2009 01:53 |
Ha! Truth be told it wasn't intended as a bootleg, but as a memento for the 4 of us who went to the show. I expected that the sound would be totally distorted and useless but it was actually kind of decent. Makes me wish I'd gotten the whole thing (I got ~80 minutes, like the first 10 songs and then bits of the rest). |
| Marknow 17.06.2009 05:45 |
david (galashiels) wrote: zebonka.how did you manage to get a 45min,video on youtube.thought the limit was 10 mins. Hiya David. The upload limit on youtube is 1 Gigabyte per file at the moment. That LOML video I uploaded last week was 996mb, pretty big for 6 minutes of video. Took nearly 2 hours to upload it. The playing time of the file is irrelevant as long as it is under 1gig in size. |
| Penetration_Guru 17.06.2009 06:50 |
on my way up wrote: Was that in the seventies? I know a rockband who played great shows at the Apollo :-)AC/DC |
| Penetration_Guru 17.06.2009 06:57 |
These days it's easy. Mic & battery pack in pocket with keys (feels like more keys if frisked). Recorder down front of trousers (very unlikely to be frisked there, especially when one aims at female security). Go to toilet, clip mic to shirt, move recorder to pocket, connect up, return to venue, press record once ready. This does remind me of a frisking story though (!) - as a youth I used to carry a swiss army knife. One never knew when a passing horse may have a stone in it's hoof, or something - I don't know. Anyway, I was going into a nightclub I think, and was frisked by a female security person, who felt said knife in my pocket and said "I don't want to know what THAT is!" before letting me through. This seemed odd, as surely it was exactly what she was supposed to be taking off people? Unless she thought that my cock was the size of a lipstick, rock solid, and originated closer to my hip than my testicles.... |
| Queenrockyou 19.06.2009 18:29 |
I remember the first show I taped was in Antwerpen on the last tour. I spent a bloody long time finding the arena as the signs on the road in Belgium are not the best ones... Searching for the exit 6 on the motorway, just to find that it jumped from 5 to 7, had to make the whole tour of the city because I took the motorway in the wrong way, things like that... Got a little irritated as I needed time to install my equipment. I had modified my shirt at home during the previous weeks, basically I sewed pockets in it, on the inside. one on each side so I could connect the recorder and the battery, one in each side. The new pockets were exactly on the same place than the original ones on the outside, so it was impossible to see that. And I was able to control the equipment anytime. Then I packed all the equipment (recorder, battery, external mics, every cable need) in plastic, added an adhesive on every packet, and went to pee before the show in the cafe just in front. I remember that I took some good 10 minutes to install all that in my pants, and went out of the loos feeling quite powerful, you know, the real man !!! I took a breath, tried to walk without people thinking that I forgot to drop out the pants and that I crapped myself... I got out of the loos, trying not to walk like a duck, finding that quite uncomfortable, while a long queue of hard drinkers looked at me clearly saying with their eyes that they were there for a long time... Then I walked into the hall, very simply, not a single look to my pants, which I took quite large, trying to find a good place, quite hidden in the audience. I installed myself, ask my wife to get closer to me, put the hands in my pants and showed her my equipment... Then I opened my shirt (don't get that hot, this is not an adult forum !), installed the equipment and wires, with the two mikes clipped on the collar. I pressed "record", just some few minutes or seconds before the show actually began. When the show stopped, the security was nowhere, as I said before, you could have brought your caravan in without any problem ! In Paris, the second show I taped, my wife could not come with me, but I met our dear Daffy who came with me to the show. In the cafe, before the show, same story again, but I was worry because the security seemed tighter. I was right, but they saw nothing and I entered the hall just like in Antwerpen. We found a place nearer to the stage (just in front of a security guy); then I went behind Daffy's back and once again searched through my pants (not an adult forum once again !). Hopefully, Daffy was aware of what was happening !! He didn't move so I could install all correctly. Then a guy next to me, who seemed quite noisy and excited compared to the rest of the (very calm) audience saw me installing the mikes, and showed me to his friend and said to him :"Bootleggers !!". I felt relieved when I heard afterwards that his friend was called Jeroen... I knew he had done the same before me and knew that it was finally good news !!! I spent a part of the concert somewhat hidden behind Daffy, especially when the security caught a videotaper just five meters from us on the right. After that, I went to my hotel, listened to my recordings, and thought that finally it was worth it !! I just had regrets that all that had not taken place 25 years before... Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| YourValentine 20.06.2009 04:39 |
ruth.olivier wrote: I installed myself, ask my wife to get closer to me, put the hands in my pants and showed her my equipment... :-) Nice story, Oliver :-))) The audio tapers are fine once they are in the venue. They are very rarely caught. It's much harder for the videotapers because they cannot hide the camcorder if they want to film something. Also, you cannot really bring the camcorder in your pants, it's still much bigger than audio equipment. |
| on my way up 20.06.2009 05:32 |
YourValentine wrote:ruth.olivier wrote: I installed myself, ask my wife to get closer to me, put the hands in my pants and showed her my equipment...:-) Nice story, Oliver :-))) The audio tapers are fine once they are in the venue. They are very rarely caught. It's much harder for the videotapers because they cannot hide the camcorder if they want to film something. Also, you cannot really bring the camcorder in your pants, it's still much bigger than audio equipment. That part of Olivier's post is hilarious:-) |
| City-in-the-Sun 20.06.2009 07:49 |
Olivier from Belgium. You are a true Star and a Gentleman ,and you allways make me Smile ,Queenzone are very lucky indeed to have such a Dedicated Queen Reporter..your posts are allways great..[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
| brians wig 20.06.2009 08:16 |
YourValentine wrote: It's much harder for the videotapers because they cannot hide the camcorder if they want to film something. Also, you cannot really bring the camcorder in your pants, it's still much bigger than audio equipment. That's what you think! Size and the ability to record without tape changes or battery changes are the reason i bought a JVC Everio. No comments about the size of my equipment please! ;) |
| Queenrockyou 20.06.2009 08:26 |
City-in-the-Sun wrote: Olivier from Belgium. You are a true Star and a Gentleman ,and you allways make me Smile ,Queenzone are very lucky indeed to have such a Dedicated Queen Reporter..your posts are allways great..[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] Wow, this is too much !! No, if I am almost okay to endorse the Gentleman thing, I don't fell anything of a star of whatever ! In fact, I just told a story I'm sure 90% of the audio tapers experiment too !!! But I have to admit I have a BIG respect for all the video tapers, THEY are true kings and genious as far as hiding equipment is concerned... They took really big risks just to bring us back some good videos to watch at, and that's just really a treat !! The decent video equipment, the one that records video AND audio in excellent quality, is not cheap, sometimes it is probably quite big, bu they go on with that equipment instead of sometimes smaller but worse... THEY are the real genius ! Regards, Olivier, Belgium. |
| BradJarre 20.06.2009 12:45 |
The first time i ever bootlegged a show was about 3 weeks ago: Jean Michel Jarre live @ the Heineken Music Hall in Amsterdam the 26th of may There where security guys at the entrance, But they only did a very quick search and i asked if i could make photo's or video's with my Cellphone, and they said"With a cellphone you can do anything you want" So... I went to my seat, Took my cellphone and recorded about 1-2 mins from every song(Except the encore, I recorded that from the beginning till the end).. I thought, hmm, My Nokia N95 isnt the best i guess with sound and video quality, But when i watched them @ my computer, i thought... hmm sound quality is good, the only time it gets distorted is when i shout JEAN MICHEL!!! at the end of his speech. Video quality is kinda sucky, I was at the balcony so i had to zoom in a lot, And because its a phone the zoom quality is bad, It goes smoothly but the more i zoom, The more blocky it gets, Thats a shame... I recorded around 50 minutes of footage, And i enjoy watching it.. It wasnt intended as bootlegging, just as a memory from my first ever Jean Michel Jarre concert... |
| YourValentine 20.06.2009 12:55 |
brians wig wrote:YourValentine wrote: It's much harder for the videotapers because they cannot hide the camcorder if they want to film something. Also, you cannot really bring the camcorder in your pants, it's still much bigger than audio equipment.That's what you think! Size and the ability to record without tape changes or battery changes are the reason i bought a JVC Everio. No comments about the size of my equipment please! ;) Well, David - I am not impressed by the size of your equipment ;-) I wasn't diminishing the achievement of the audio tapers in any way: it's hard to set the equipment correctly and to make sure the recorder is not switched off accidentally etc etc. I only think it's not so bad once you stared recording because the mics are very small and easy to hide. |