Rick 24.05.2009 07:49 |
...give me a hand by answering a few questions concerning your country? I'm busy writing a paper about Scotland in which I will mainly aim at the so-called "Scottish pride". How important it is for Scots of being Scottish and the like. Any volunteers? It's not that I need dozens of Scots, a minimum of two will do :) I don't have the questions ready yet, since I first would like to see if there's any zest for this. So, if you are interested, please let me know. You could either let me know here (topic or PM) or contact me by using the e-mail address which is in my signature. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance! |
John S Stuart 24.05.2009 14:38 |
The average Englishman in the home he call his castle slips into his national costume, a shabby raincoat, patented by Chemist Charles Macintosh from Glasgow, Scotland. En-route to his office he strides along the English lane, surfaced by John Macadam of Ayr, Scotland. He drives an English car fitted with tyres invented by John Boyd Dunlop, Veterinary Surgeon of Dreghorn, Scotland. At the office he receives the mail bearing adhesive stamps invented by John Chalmers, Bookseller and Printer of Dundee, Scotland. During the day he uses the telephone invented by Alexander Graham Bell, born in Edinburgh, Scotland. At home in the evening his daughter pedals her bicycle invented by Kirkpatrick Macmillan, Blacksmith of Thornhill, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. He watches the news on television, an invention of John Logie Baird of Helensburgh, Scotland, and hears an item about the U.S. Navy founded by John Paul Jones of Kirkbean, Scotland. Nowhere can an Englishman turn to escape the ingenuity of the Scots. He has by now been reminded too much of Scotland and in desperation he picks up the Bible, only to find that the first man mentioned in the good book is a Scot, King James VI, who authorized its translation. He could take to drink but the Scots make the best in the world. Even if he wanted a hot drink, Sir James Dewar invented the vacuum flask. He could take a rifle and end it all, but the breech-loading rifle was invented by Captain Patrick Ferguson of Pitfours, Scotland. If he escaped death, he could find himself on an operating table injected with penicillin, discovered by Sir Alexander Fleming of Darvel, Scotland, and given chloroform, an anesthetic discovered by Sir James Young Simpson, Obstetrician and Gynecologist of Bathgate, Scotland. Out of the anesthetic he would find no comfort in learning that he was as safe as the Bank of England founded by William Paterson of Dumfries, Scotland. Even in a world of make believe he finds that the best Mystery writer (Sir Arthur Conan Doyle), horror and adventure writer (Robert Louis Stevenson), fantasy Writer (J. K. Rowling), children's writer (J M Barrie) espionage writer (John Buchanan) Sci - Fi writer (Ian Banks) and poet (Robert Burns) are all Scots. Even imaginative Scots of the future will run the engines of the USS Enterprise, and Dr. Who (David Tennant and Sylvester McCoy) will save the universe from the Daleks amongst others. Even the epitome of English suavity (James Bond) was best portrayed by a Scot: SIr Sean Connery. Other actors of such standing include Ewan McGregor, Dougray Scott, John Hannah, James McAvoy, Alan Cummings, Robert Carlye, and Robbie Coltrain. The first Hannibal Lecter (Brian Cox), and the only male 'Miss Marple' Alistair Simm, were all also Scots. In Sport, the manager (Sir Alex), and Today's Captain (Darren Fletcher), manage the best soccer team in England, Europe and the world. Not only that, but with Aberdeen winning the UEFA Supercup, Sir Alex is the only UK manager to be a Europe champion with two different UK teams. Sir Jackie Stewart went on to become one of the greatest F1 drivers ever. The first British team to win the European Cup were Glasgow Celtic. Queen Victoria's favourite Prime Minister, William Ewart Gladstone, and her lover, John Brown were Scottish. The Queen mother Elizabeth Bowes Lyon (the world's favourite granny) was also born in Scotland. The first Labour Prime Minister James Ramsey MacDonald was Scottish. John A MacDonald went on to become the first Prime Minister of Canada, and three Scots have separately gone on to become Prime Minister of New Zealand. Nine of the first Governors of the original thirteen US states came from Scot's ancestory, while John Witherspoon urged the signing of the USA declaration of independence. Perhaps his only remaining hope would be to get a transfusion of guid Scottish blood which would entitle him to ask: "Wha's Like Us?" (However, the less said about Gordon Brown - the Better!) |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 24.05.2009 15:12 |
^ you was doing so well until the very last sentence and thats what the Scots are all about. no matter how wonderful they are at creating things they always find a way to fuck it up big time in the end.Whether it be *cough* running *cough* the rest of the UK in parliament or playing football against Iran/Costa Rica in a World Cup,the Scots always manage to screw it up and give us a giggle south of Hadrians wall and thats why we English love them |
John S Stuart 24.05.2009 15:33 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ^ you was doing so well until the very last sentence and thats what the Scots are all about. no matter how wonderful they are at creating things they always find a way to fuck it up big time in the end.Whether it be *cough* running *cough* the rest of the UK in parliament or playing football against Iran/Costa Rica in a World Cup,the Scots always manage to screw it up and give us a giggle south of Hadrians wall and thats why we English love them Fair enough - but some credit: I did manage to avoid the stereotypes of Billy Connelly, Rory Bremner, Frankie Boyle, Lorrain Kelly, Carol Smillie, Nicky Campbell, The Proclaimers, Lulu, Alex Harvey, David Moyes, Ricky Sbragia, Alex McLeish, Kenny Dalgleish, Alan Hanson, Andy Gray, Susan Boyle, John Smeaton, William Wallace (and Mel Gibson) - and F*cking Gordon Ramsey! So I didn't do too badly! |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 24.05.2009 15:41 |
John S Stuart wrote:and you still left off The Krankies lolJoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ^ you was doing so well until the very last sentence and thats what the Scots are all about. no matter how wonderful they are at creating things they always find a way to fuck it up big time in the end.Whether it be *cough* running *cough* the rest of the UK in parliament or playing football against Iran/Costa Rica in a World Cup,the Scots always manage to screw it up and give us a giggle south of Hadrians wall and thats why we English love themFair enough - but some credit: I did manage to avoid the stereotypes of Billy Connelly, Rory Bremner, Frankie Boyle, Lorrain Kelly, Carol Smillie, Nicky Campbell, The Proclaimers, Lulu, Alex Harvey, David Moyes, Ricky Sbragia, Alex McLeish, Kenny Dalgleish, Alan Hanson, Andy Gray, Susan Boyle, John Smeaton, William Wallace (and Mel Gibson) - and F*cking Gordon Ramsey! So I didn't do too badly! |
Mr Mercury 24.05.2009 19:16 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:John S Stuart wrote:and you still left off The Krankies lolJoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ^ you was doing so well until the very last sentence and thats what the Scots are all about. no matter how wonderful they are at creating things they always find a way to fuck it up big time in the end.Whether it be *cough* running *cough* the rest of the UK in parliament or playing football against Iran/Costa Rica in a World Cup,the Scots always manage to screw it up and give us a giggle south of Hadrians wall and thats why we English love themFair enough - but some credit: I did manage to avoid the stereotypes of Billy Connelly, Rory Bremner, Frankie Boyle, Lorrain Kelly, Carol Smillie, Nicky Campbell, The Proclaimers, Lulu, Alex Harvey, David Moyes, Ricky Sbragia, Alex McLeish, Kenny Dalgleish, Alan Hanson, Andy Gray, Susan Boyle, John Smeaton, William Wallace (and Mel Gibson) - and F*cking Gordon Ramsey! So I didn't do too badly! And John Laurie from Dad's Army - Scotlands finest shakespearian actor before Mr Tennant....... lol |
@ndy38 24.05.2009 19:42 |
Susan Boyle........... *shudder* I lose my Scottish Pride when i hear 'Flower of Scotland', probably the most depressing national anthem ever. |
-fatty- 2850 24.05.2009 20:07 |
We are probably the only country in the world that measures it's patriotism, not by how much we love our own country, but by how much we hate the English. fatty. |
Yara 24.05.2009 22:38 |
Brazilian patriotism began when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. v
-fatty- wrote: We are probably the only country in the world that measures it's patriotism, not by how much we love our own country, but by how much we hate the English. fatty. Hi, Fatty! How are you? Hehehe. No, not really. You remembered me of the famous remark by Ernest Renan: "A nation is a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbours". Not very easy to debunk it. :op Brazilian patriotism, for instance, emerged when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. I think many nations define themselves according to how much hatred they have for the English. They were an Empire, after all. Hehe. :-))) I love the Scots. I love the English. I love the British. I know you guys won't like it, but I love the French too. :-) Take care, fatty, always a delight to read you. I hope you're doing fine and that you have a nice week. Yara |
Marknow 25.05.2009 03:06 |
Ah, we all love the Brits really, especially here in Ireland. (Sorry for the off topic) |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 25.05.2009 05:35 |
@ndy38 wrote: Susan Boyle........... *shudder* I lose my Scottish Pride when i hear 'Flower of Scotland', probably the most depressing national anthem ever.after 'god save the queen' |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 25.05.2009 05:42 |
Yara wrote: Brazilian patriotism began when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. v-fatty- wrote: We are probably the only country in the world that measures it's patriotism, not by how much we love our own country, but by how much we hate the English. fatty.Hi, Fatty! How are you? Hehehe. No, not really. You remembered me of the famous remark by Ernest Renan: "A nation is a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbours". Not very easy to debunk it. :op Brazilian patriotism, for instance, emerged when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. I think many nations define themselves according to how much hatred they have for the English. They were an Empire, after all. Hehe. :-))) I love the Scots. I love the English. I love the British. I know you guys won't like it, but I love the French too. :-) Take care, fatty, always a delight to read you. I hope you're doing fine and that you have a nice week. Yara there's one thing that unites this sacred isle,this jewel on the horizon called the UK and thats our unilateral hatred for the onion wearing,garlic reeking,snail eating,horse killing,fishing port blocking,beret wearing,hairy armpited,gun dropping,arm waving,upper lip smirking, greasy skinned surrender monkeys across the ENGLISH Channel |
thomasquinn 32989 25.05.2009 07:19 |
-fatty- wrote: We are probably the only country in the world that measures it's patriotism, not by how much we love our own country, but by how much we hate the English. fatty. No, that's you *and* France. |
Freya is quietly judging you. 25.05.2009 10:29 |
And Wales. Poor England :( |
Rick 25.05.2009 10:56 |
Haha, oh well, I sort of should have seen this coming, right? :) |
Freya is quietly judging you. 25.05.2009 11:41 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:Yara wrote: Brazilian patriotism began when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. vthere's one thing that unites this sacred isle,this jewel on the horizon called the UK and thats our unilateral hatred for the onion wearing,garlic reeking,snail eating,horse killing,fishing port blocking,beret wearing,hairy armpited,gun dropping,arm waving,upper lip smirking, greasy skinned surrender monkeys across the ENGLISH Channel-fatty- wrote: We are probably the only country in the world that measures it's patriotism, not by how much we love our own country, but by how much we hate the English. fatty.Hi, Fatty! How are you? Hehehe. No, not really. You remembered me of the famous remark by Ernest Renan: "A nation is a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbours". Not very easy to debunk it. :op Brazilian patriotism, for instance, emerged when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. I think many nations define themselves according to how much hatred they have for the English. They were an Empire, after all. Hehe. :-))) I love the Scots. I love the English. I love the British. I know you guys won't like it, but I love the French too. :-) Take care, fatty, always a delight to read you. I hope you're doing fine and that you have a nice week. Yara I don't mind the French. They're funny. And Victor Hugo was French. And I like him. And I quite fancy eating a horse. |
-fatty- 2850 25.05.2009 13:32 |
Hiya Rick. I dont mind answering any questions you have. I'm not your typical anti-English Scotsman (until it comes to football of course) and I think Alec Salmond is a walloper but I'm happy to help if I can. fatty. |
John S Stuart 25.05.2009 17:20 |
-fatty- wrote: Hiya Rick. I dont mind answering any questions you have. I'm not your typical anti-English Scotsman (until it comes to football of course) and I think Alec Salmond is a walloper but I'm happy to help if I can. fatty. Forgot to mention that your Hibees were the first UK team to qualify for Europe, and, first to win the Original 'Association Football Championship World Decider' by beating Preston North End - you dozy fat southern shaven-arsed nancy [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] |
Yara 25.05.2009 22:16 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:Yara wrote: blah, blah, blah...hehehe. ;-))there's one thing that unites this sacred isle,this jewel on the horizon called the UK and thats our unilateral hatred for the onion wearing,garlic reeking,snail eating,horse killing,fishing port blocking,beret wearing,hairy armpited,gun dropping,arm waving,upper lip smirking, greasy skinned surrender monkeys across the ENGLISH Channel Hi, Joxer! How are you doing? Oh, my, I laughed out loud with this. And I thought to myself: thanks goodness Brazil isn't across the ENGLISH (you forgot the bold lol) Channel. But then...isn't it across the ENGLISH Ocean? :op Take care, dear. Have a great day! Yara |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 26.05.2009 05:02 |
^ we shall leave Brazil alone until your government decides that a couple of tiny islands that belong to us and have a population of 10,000 sheep and a couple of randy lonely farmers 1000's of miles from us are yours and invade them just like your neighbours did in 1982 and then get their butts kicked by the British Forces for their petulance,until then you are fine. plus you gave us the samba,carnivals,Robinho,Ronaldinho,Ronaldo [the bugs bunny toothed one and not the diving cheating poofy winker],Pele and City Of God,leonardo's other half and beautiful women dancing in next to nothing and Raf so you cant be all that bad :-] |
JoxerTheDeityPirate 26.05.2009 05:03 |
Freya is quietly judging you. wrote:i cant take any country that finds Jerry Lewis funny seriously for having a 'culture' ;-]JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:I don't mind the French. They're funny. And Victor Hugo was French. And I like him. And I quite fancy eating a horse.Yara wrote: Brazilian patriotism began when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. vthere's one thing that unites this sacred isle,this jewel on the horizon called the UK and thats our unilateral hatred for the onion wearing,garlic reeking,snail eating,horse killing,fishing port blocking,beret wearing,hairy armpited,gun dropping,arm waving,upper lip smirking, greasy skinned surrender monkeys across the ENGLISH Channel-fatty- wrote: We are probably the only country in the world that measures it's patriotism, not by how much we love our own country, but by how much we hate the English. fatty.Hi, Fatty! How are you? Hehehe. No, not really. You remembered me of the famous remark by Ernest Renan: "A nation is a group of people united by a mistaken view about the past and a hatred of their neighbours". Not very easy to debunk it. :op Brazilian patriotism, for instance, emerged when the Emperor back in the 19th Century started to mobilize the population around the war against Paraguay - the hatred for Paraguay kept Brazilians together despite all differences. I think many nations define themselves according to how much hatred they have for the English. They were an Empire, after all. Hehe. :-))) I love the Scots. I love the English. I love the British. I know you guys won't like it, but I love the French too. :-) Take care, fatty, always a delight to read you. I hope you're doing fine and that you have a nice week. Yara |
ParisNair 27.05.2009 09:22 |
From Danny Boyle's "Trainspotting"-
Doesn't it make you proud to be Scottish? It's shite being Scottish! We're the lowest of the low! The scum of the fucking Earth! The most wretched, miserable, servile, pathetic trash... that was ever shat into civilization! Some people hate English. I don't! They're just wankers! We, on the other hand, are colonized by wankers! Can't even find a decent culture to be colonized by! We're ruled by effete arseholes! It's a shite state of affairs to be in, Tommy! And all the fresh air in the world won't make any fucking difference! Sorry, man. Sorry. |
4 x Vision 28.05.2009 10:20 |
JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ^ we shall leave Brazil alone until your government decides that a couple of tiny islands that belong to us and have a population of 10,000 sheep and a couple of randy lonely farmers 1000's of miles from us are yours and invade them just like your neighbours did in 1982 and then get their butts kicked by the British Forces for their As if you could do anything these days. English empire is nothing but America's tiny lap dog. You could maybe fight Brazil if USA gave you permission first. Only an Englishman can still horse on about the Falklands and kicking the Argie's butts. Bet you still hate Maradona, love Sunday Yorkshire pud' at Witherspoons, think Wayne Rooney is the best striker in the world... and still think England will one day win the World Cup again. And BTW... if it wasn't for the diving cheating Ronaldo, Man Utd wouldn't have reached the CL final last night... wait til they lose him and Alex ferguson retires, and we'll see how poorly Man U do for English football next year. I know Scotland will never win SFA (ironic ha), but at least we know our limitations. As for hating the French... I thought you were first joking, but you do stereotypically still hate another nation with such verocity that it's actually quite sad. Actually go to Paris and see how beautiful their city is and how pleasant the frecnh people are... instead of going to Benidorm or Teneriofe this year that is. Proud Scot... wouldn't go so far to say we're a proud nation still, possibly just as proud as the next person is for their country, Joxer included, but i think this is a very old fashioned view of Scotland and i would love to answer any questions you may have Rick. regards fae Glesga (from Glasgow). |
Holly2003 28.05.2009 14:30 |
Van Basten 9 wrote:Thought you were having a bit of a sense of humour failure there until I got to the bit about "pleasant Parisians". That was hilarious.JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ^ we shall leave Brazil alone until your government decides that a couple of tiny islands that belong to us and have a population of 10,000 sheep and a couple of randy lonely farmers 1000's of miles from us are yours and invade them just like your neighbours did in 1982 and then get their butts kicked by the British Forces for theirAs if you could do anything these days. English empire is nothing but America's tiny lap dog. You could maybe fight Brazil if USA gave you permission first. Only an Englishman can still horse on about the Falklands and kicking the Argie's butts. Bet you still hate Maradona, love Sunday Yorkshire pud' at Witherspoons, think Wayne Rooney is the best striker in the world... and still think England will one day win the World Cup again. And BTW... if it wasn't for the diving cheating Ronaldo, Man Utd wouldn't have reached the CL final last night... wait til they lose him and Alex ferguson retires, and we'll see how poorly Man U do for English football next year. I know Scotland will never win SFA (ironic ha), but at least we know our limitations. As for hating the French... I thought you were first joking, but you do stereotypically still hate another nation with such verocity that it's actually quite sad. Actually go to Paris and see how beautiful their city is and how pleasant the frecnh people are... instead of going to Benidorm or Teneriofe this year that is. Proud Scot... wouldn't go so far to say we're a proud nation still, possibly just as proud as the next person is for their country, Joxer included, but i think this is a very old fashioned view of Scotland and i would love to answer any questions you may have Rick. regards fae Glesga (from Glasgow). |
The Royalist 28.05.2009 17:53 |
Not all Scots consider themselves Scottish. Some of us like to be called British. You can stick your Tartan Army up your... |
4 x Vision 28.05.2009 18:29 |
Holly2003 wrote:Van Basten 9 wrote:Thought you were having a bit of a sense of humour failure there until I got to the bit about "pleasant Parisians". That was hilarious.JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote: ^ we shall leave Brazil alone until your government decides that a couple of tiny islands that belong to us and have a population of 10,000 sheep and a couple of randy lonely farmers 1000's of miles from us are yours and invade them just like your neighbours did in 1982 and then get their butts kicked by the British Forces for theirAs if you could do anything these days. English empire is nothing but America's tiny lap dog. You could maybe fight Brazil if USA gave you permission first. Only an Englishman can still horse on about the Falklands and kicking the Argie's butts. Bet you still hate Maradona, love Sunday Yorkshire pud' at Witherspoons, think Wayne Rooney is the best striker in the world... and still think England will one day win the World Cup again. And BTW... if it wasn't for the diving cheating Ronaldo, Man Utd wouldn't have reached the CL final last night... wait til they lose him and Alex ferguson retires, and we'll see how poorly Man U do for English football next year. I know Scotland will never win SFA (ironic ha), but at least we know our limitations. As for hating the French... I thought you were first joking, but you do stereotypically still hate another nation with such verocity that it's actually quite sad. Actually go to Paris and see how beautiful their city is and how pleasant the frecnh people are... instead of going to Benidorm or Teneriofe this year that is. Proud Scot... wouldn't go so far to say we're a proud nation still, possibly just as proud as the next person is for their country, Joxer included, but i think this is a very old fashioned view of Scotland and i would love to answer any questions you may have Rick. regards fae Glesga (from Glasgow). Ha Ha... nearly could have got away with sounding sincere if I hadn't wrote that... well spotted... still a beautiful beautiful city though. I think England v Scotland matches should return though... would be a great end of season spectacle. (Although we would get pumped, it would be a fun occassion I think these days... fans have lightened up a bit since days of yonder... just look at how well behaved rangers fans were in Manchester for Euro Cup Final last year. |