QueenZone discussion #1181652

pittrek wrote: I got a very stupid question - who is Adam Lambert ?

Saif wrote:

pittrek wrote: I got a very stupid question - who is Adam Lambert ?

Gay American Idol contestant with perhaps the same vocal range as Freddie but not really 1/10th as talented otherwise.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote: But he's marketable. Right now he's hot and there's controversy surrounding him - is he/isn't he. If they're looking for someone fresh and exciting to bring the Queen sound to a new generation, Adam, imo, would be the one.

Lisser wrote: Anyone who says "so and so can't replace Freddie..." has it completely wrong. This is not what it's about. No one can replace Freddie and everyone on this board should realize this. I'm certain Brian and Roger know he can't be replaced as well, no one can be replaced. I think all Brian and Roger have in their minds (at least I hope) when they get a "stand in" vocalist to sing Queen songs is so their fans can still enjoy their music in a live setting, they can enjoy playing live as well, and also to pay tribute to Freddie. Anyone who knows anything about Freddie Mercury should be able to comprehend that his talent can't be doubled. We may never see someone of his talent again period!  I'm a Queen fan, a huge one as are most on this board. Please don't think that Brian and Roger are trying or have ever tried to replace Freddie. It's a matter of them being able to still play their music that they enjoy live and letting the fans enjoy it as well. Adam can't replace Freddie, no one can and no one ever will. That debate should never even come to surface. Can Adam entertain people by singing Queen's songs with Brian and Roger? I think yes and I would pay hard earned money to hear it! If it happens and he does get with Brian and Roger in the future for something then I say enjoy it if you like it and if you don't then don't listen.

e-man wrote:

  Lisser wrote: Anyone who says "so and so can't replace Freddie..." has it completely wrong. This is not what it's about. No one can replace Freddie and everyone on this board should realize this. I'm certain Brian and Roger know he can't be replaced as well, no one can be replaced. I think all Brian and Roger have in their minds (at least I hope) when they get a "stand in" vocalist to sing Queen songs is so their fans can still enjoy their music in a live setting, they can enjoy playing live as well, and also to pay tribute to Freddie. Anyone who knows anything about Freddie Mercury should be able to comprehend that his talent can't be doubled. We may never see someone of his talent again period!  I'm a Queen fan, a huge one as are most on this board. Please don't think that Brian and Roger are trying or have ever tried to replace Freddie. It's a matter of them being able to still play their music that they enjoy live and letting the fans enjoy it as well. Adam can't replace Freddie, no one can and no one ever will. That debate should never even come to surface. Can Adam entertain people by singing Queen's songs with Brian and Roger? I think yes and I would pay hard earned money to hear it! If it happens and he does get with Brian and Roger in the future for something then I say enjoy it if you like it and if you don't then don't listen.

you can be sure as hell that I won't listen. but it will hurt my soul to see them destroy the legacy of the best band in the world. "Queen + tv star - playing to screaming teenage girls near you"

beautifulsoup wrote: Adam's been doing musical theatre for years.  Perhaps he'd be a good fit in a production of WWRY.  Or....perhaps Brian might lend a guitar solo or two to Adam's album. Or...who knows? And I, for one, would love to know what Brian said to Adam on stage when the song was over...

Micrówave wrote: If you're even considering this, you're probably not the typical Queen fan.  Because of the diversity of each album, Queen built quite a following of varied fans, but one thing they all had in common was the ability to determine what good music and showmanship really was/is.  So if you're an Idol fan AND a Queen fan, you're either: (1) Terribly confused (2) Under 14 (3) unaware that Brian, Paul, and Roger got paid a hay-uge pile of money to appear on Idol in the first place (4) unaware that Brian, Paul, Roger, John, Ringo, or any other serious musical act would never take an Idol winner seriously. (5) unaware that contestants are created by the TV show.  It's more act than talent.  You really think these are yokos from Lancaster who got a shot to make it big? No.  They're "marketable".  How's Clay, Rueben, and the rest of those idiots doing lately?  Think they have any money left?

JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:

  Micrówave wrote: If you're even considering this, you're probably not the typical Queen fan.  Because of the diversity of each album, Queen built quite a following of varied fans, but one thing they all had in common was the ability to determine what good music and showmanship really was/is.  So if you're an Idol fan AND a Queen fan, you're either: (1) Terribly confused (2) Under 14 (3) unaware that Brian, Paul, and Roger got paid a hay-uge pile of money to appear on Idol in the first place (4) unaware that Brian, Paul, Roger, John, Ringo, or any other serious musical act would never take an Idol winner seriously. (5) unaware that contestants are created by the TV show.  It's more act than talent.  You really think these are yokos from Lancaster who got a shot to make it big? No.  They're "marketable".  How's Clay, Rueben, and the rest of those idiots doing lately?  Think they have any money left?

Kelly Clarkson seems to be doing quite fine

Micrówave wrote: Carrie Underwood has played 7 shows this year.  7. Kelly Clarkson is the only one that ever amounted to a hill of beans and even then, if you like dirty southern rock, ok.  But that's all she's got. How many seasons and winners have we had? So, like I said, where are your Idols now? The target audience for American Idol is hard to stomach, but here goes.  You know the contestants that never make the show in the first place?  THAT'S who this show is for.  Sorry to break the news to you idol fans.  Nobody in the business has any respect for these so called "artists".  The only respect given is to the people cashing in on the thing.  Simon Cowell, Lil Seacrest, Dogg Jackson, and Drunk Paula will never ever have to worry about finding employment for the rest of their lives.  The contestants, on the other hand?  Well, look what Clay had to do to get his name in a newspaper again?

Charlie Brown wrote: ^ Hi Soup and everybody, Adam Lambert was interviewed this morning and he was asked directly "Has Queen offered you a job? Because they need a lead singer." And Adam responded "I think ther was some interest yeah." The reporter pursued the line of questioning with "So in other words they've made you an offer but you don't want to reveal it yet." To which Adam responded by laughing nervously and saying "I'm pleading the fifth on that." So it seems that something is up.

Cwazy little thing wrote: I could do a better job than this Adam Lambert guy, as could most of the people here with half a voice.

Cwazy little thing wrote: I could do a better job than this Adam Lambert guy, as could most of the people here with half a voice. Oh, and with all due respect, the idea of an American kid permanently fronting an old quintessentially English band is a bit laughable, and just plain wrong somehow. You'd never want to see an Englishman up front for a southern rock band, or singing country music - it just doesnt work. Plus I honestly dont think Bri and Rog want some young Freddie wannabe fronting the band - he'll add nothing to the writing mix, and they'd be a karaoke backing band - at least Paul took the songs somewhere new, and made the writing for Cosmos a bit more varied. To be honest, Queen plus any popstar is a bad idea, particularly if they've ever been within the grasp of Simon Cowell, the music anti-christ. It starts to get a bit sad if they keep recruiting singers - QPR was a fun experiment, and had some cool moments over the last few years, but why start flogging this dying donkey now? They dont need money or recognition at this point - they've got tons of both. Credibility is something they could do with striving for. QPR was a project which maintained that, as it wasnt selling out or replacing Freddie with an impersonator, it was, for better or worse, something different. Anything involving nabbing some popstar of the C-lebrity ilk only turns it into a circus, and makes Queen, and by extension us the laughing stock of classic bands. Besides, as rightly pointed out above, Brian has never been keen on the idea of recruiting from reality TV. Appearing on it for a bit of fun is something else though, and as long as it was purely about that and a bit of promotion, why not!? I think people are getting a bit carried away.

Cwazy little thing wrote: I could do a better job than this Adam Lambert guy, as could most of the people here with half a voice. Oh, and with all due respect, the idea of an American kid permanently fronting an old quintessentially English band is a bit laughable, and just plain wrong somehow. You'd never want to see an Englishman up front for a southern rock band, or singing country music - it just doesnt work. Plus I honestly dont think Bri and Rog want some young Freddie wannabe fronting the band - he'll add nothing to the writing mix, and they'd be a karaoke backing band - at least Paul took the songs somewhere new, and made the writing for Cosmos a bit more varied. To be honest, Queen plus any popstar is a bad idea, particularly if they've ever been within the grasp of Simon Cowell, the music anti-christ. It starts to get a bit sad if they keep recruiting singers - QPR was a fun experiment, and had some cool moments over the last few years, but why start flogging this dying donkey now? They dont need money or recognition at this point - they've got tons of both. Credibility is something they could do with striving for. QPR was a project which maintained that, as it wasnt selling out or replacing Freddie with an impersonator, it was, for better or worse, something different. Anything involving nabbing some popstar of the C-lebrity ilk only turns it into a circus, and makes Queen, and by extension us the laughing stock of classic bands. Besides, as rightly pointed out above, Brian has never been keen on the idea of recruiting from reality TV. Appearing on it for a bit of fun is something else though, and as long as it was purely about that and a bit of promotion, why not!? I think people are getting a bit carried away.

JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:

  Cwazy little thing wrote: I could do a better job than this Adam Lambert guy, as could most of the people here with half a voice. Oh, and with all due respect, the idea of an American kid permanently fronting an old quintessentially English band is a bit laughable, and just plain wrong somehow. You'd never want to see an Englishman up front for a southern rock band, or singing country music - it just doesnt work. Plus I honestly dont think Bri and Rog want some young Freddie wannabe fronting the band - he'll add nothing to the writing mix, and they'd be a karaoke backing band - at least Paul took the songs somewhere new, and made the writing for Cosmos a bit more varied. To be honest, Queen plus any popstar is a bad idea, particularly if they've ever been within the grasp of Simon Cowell, the music anti-christ. It starts to get a bit sad if they keep recruiting singers - QPR was a fun experiment, and had some cool moments over the last few years, but why start flogging this dying donkey now? They dont need money or recognition at this point - they've got tons of both. Credibility is something they could do with striving for. QPR was a project which maintained that, as it wasnt selling out or replacing Freddie with an impersonator, it was, for better or worse, something different. Anything involving nabbing some popstar of the C-lebrity ilk only turns it into a circus, and makes Queen, and by extension us the laughing stock of classic bands. Besides, as rightly pointed out above, Brian has never been keen on the idea of recruiting from reality TV. Appearing on it for a bit of fun is something else though, and as long as it was purely about that and a bit of promotion, why not!? I think people are getting a bit carried away.

to be honest,they tried the 'lets get someone who is the total opposite of Freddie" and that didnt work out too brilliantly did it? the album went down faster than Paris Hilton in a hotel suite. i can see them biting the bullet now and going with the "ok fans,here's the Freddie wannabe you obviously crave for" and seeing what happens.they got nothing left to lose.

vadenuez wrote: So Queen's going to hire a C-lebrity to be their next singer?? More respect to Paul Rodgers, damn it!

  e-man wrote:  

      JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:      

              Cwazy little thing wrote:       I could do a better job than this Adam Lambert guy, as could most of the people here with half a voice. Oh, and with all due respect, the idea of an American kid permanently fronting an old quintessentially English band is a bit laughable, and just plain wrong somehow. You'd never want to see an Englishman up front for a southern rock band, or singing country music - it just doesnt work. Plus I honestly dont think Bri and Rog want some young Freddie wannabe fronting the band - he'll add nothing to the writing mix, and they'd be a karaoke backing band - at least Paul took the songs somewhere new, and made the writing for Cosmos a bit more varied. To be honest, Queen plus any popstar is a bad idea, particularly if they've ever been within the grasp of Simon Cowell, the music anti-christ. It starts to get a bit sad if they keep recruiting singers - QPR was a fun experiment, and had some cool moments over the last few years, but why start flogging this dying donkey now? They dont need money or recognition at this point - they've got tons of both. Credibility is something they could do with striving for. QPR was a project which maintained that, as it wasnt selling out or replacing Freddie with an impersonator, it was, for better or worse, something different. Anything involving nabbing some popstar of the C-lebrity ilk only turns it into a circus, and makes Queen, and by extension us the laughing stock of classic bands. Besides, as rightly pointed out above, Brian has never been keen on the idea of recruiting from reality TV. Appearing on it for a bit of fun is something else though, and as long as it was purely about that and a bit of promotion, why not!? I think people are getting a bit carried away.      

to be honest,they tried the 'lets get someone who is the total opposite of Freddie" and that didnt work out too brilliantly did it? the album went down faster than Paris Hilton in a hotel suite. i can see them biting the bullet now and going with the "ok fans,here's the Freddie wannabe you obviously crave for" and seeing what happens.they got nothing left to lose.

so you would rather have a freddie soundalike? anyone trying to sing like Freddie comes off sounding like a second rate Freddie. that's not good enough imo, it worked with Paul cause he has his own unique way of singing

  e-man wrote:  

      JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:      

              Cwazy little thing wrote:       I could do a better job than this Adam Lambert guy, as could most of the people here with half a voice. Oh, and with all due respect, the idea of an American kid permanently fronting an old quintessentially English band is a bit laughable, and just plain wrong somehow. You'd never want to see an Englishman up front for a southern rock band, or singing country music - it just doesnt work. Plus I honestly dont think Bri and Rog want some young Freddie wannabe fronting the band - he'll add nothing to the writing mix, and they'd be a karaoke backing band - at least Paul took the songs somewhere new, and made the writing for Cosmos a bit more varied. To be honest, Queen plus any popstar is a bad idea, particularly if they've ever been within the grasp of Simon Cowell, the music anti-christ. It starts to get a bit sad if they keep recruiting singers - QPR was a fun experiment, and had some cool moments over the last few years, but why start flogging this dying donkey now? They dont need money or recognition at this point - they've got tons of both. Credibility is something they could do with striving for. QPR was a project which maintained that, as it wasnt selling out or replacing Freddie with an impersonator, it was, for better or worse, something different. Anything involving nabbing some popstar of the C-lebrity ilk only turns it into a circus, and makes Queen, and by extension us the laughing stock of classic bands. Besides, as rightly pointed out above, Brian has never been keen on the idea of recruiting from reality TV. Appearing on it for a bit of fun is something else though, and as long as it was purely about that and a bit of promotion, why not!? I think people are getting a bit carried away.      

to be honest,they tried the 'lets get someone who is the total opposite of Freddie" and that didnt work out too brilliantly did it? the album went down faster than Paris Hilton in a hotel suite. i can see them biting the bullet now and going with the "ok fans,here's the Freddie wannabe you obviously crave for" and seeing what happens.they got nothing left to lose.

so you would rather have a freddie soundalike? anyone trying to sing like Freddie comes off sounding like a second rate Freddie. that's not good enough imo, it worked with Paul cause he has his own unique way of singing

mike hunt wrote: I knew there would be rumors, but didn't take it seriously until now. Brian has said he's open to it. I'm surprised that this could actually happen.  The kid is so young, what is he 20?...brian is 62?...but even saying that queen + lambert would be way big.  Especially with the youngsters.  Queen can't ruin their legacy.  The songs have stood the test of time.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote:

  mike hunt wrote: I knew there would be rumors, but didn't take it seriously until now. Brian has said he's open to it. I'm surprised that this could actually happen.  The kid is so young, what is he 20?...brian is 62?...but even saying that queen + lambert would be way big.  Especially with the youngsters.  Queen can't ruin their legacy.  The songs have stood the test of time.

I agree with this. He's not Freddie, and no one should say he's trying to be, but he certainly is showy and flamboyant. Queen was a showy band because of Freddie. He didn't just write and sing phenomenally well, he entertained. I think Adam entertains, too, though in his own way. Even if it's for only a year, with Adam singing their songs, I think the popularity of their music will see a major surge.

The Mir@cle wrote: At least he's not as talentless as you are. ;-)

ITSM wrote: It's really annoying discussing Idol on a Queen-forum!!!

mike hunt wrote: I know that Queen + lambert threads are gonna start anyday now, So I figured I would be one of the first ones to ask the question, is this gonna happen?....they looked so natural together.  Lambert is truly the next freddie mercury, so why not have him sing a bunch of queen songs?...  Imagine how huge it would be.

andreas_mercury wrote: i vote that Adam Lambert be the one to re-record all the songs from The Cosmos Rocks and even do it right away .....  maybe they can release it all over once again, with better promotion.

7Innuendo7 wrote: It would be interesting to hear Lambert try Great King Rat & Killer Queen.  Does he play bass?

JoxerTheDeityPirate wrote:

7Innuendo7 wrote: It would be interesting to hear Lambert try Great King Rat & Killer Queen.  Does he play bass?

i heard he played the one hole flute :-]

Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Im a Queen fan of 22 years... I own every Uk CD, Album, Casette, DVD, Video and 7" single, including solo. I was at the Freddie Tribute in 1992, Ive been and had my photo at Logan Place and went to Freddies statue in Montreux. I owned a Brian May guitar and I have the Crest tattoo'd on my leg.....and that bloody well hurt. I cannot abide the ruthless advertising by Brian over his bloody "musical".......its not my thing. I thought TCR was a bit pants, with the exeption of All Things That Glitter, I consider myself a true fan and always will be........I love Freddie to bits, I cried for days when he died........I even got sent home from school because my teachers all knew I was a 14 year old "superfan"......and my mates still give me grief about that to this day. Anyway....................... So I just flicked on to YouTube and watched this guy Adam Lambert to see what all of this fuss was about..............fucking amazing. What a performance and what a voice. I would pay and go to see him without a shadow of a doubt. I am not a fan of talent shows at all. But this bloke is superb. You have to really stand out and be counted.....like Leona, her version of Run still gives me goosebumps. I have always thought I listen to "proper" music, by bands and singers who have always made it on their own merit by working bloody hard to acheive their goals instead of going down the talent (less) shows but Im afraid on this occasion, as with Leona - I have to make exeptions.

Freddie Mercurois wrote: Paul Rodgers is an incredibly lousy motherfucker. Poor singer. This kid is really REALLY great. Judging by Brian and Roger's performances on The Cosmos Rocks... THEY should beg him to sing with them. I hope they get together and tour. I'd love to see that, specially if Brian ASSHOLE May decides to play something that's actually worth it and no more Tie your mother down and Fat bottomed girls. But, if you see it that way, Adam is the kind of guy that'd rather sing Somebody to Love than... i.e Crazy Little Thing Called Love. Brian is too self-overhyped to play more Freddie songs. He prefers to play his shittiest rock n roll songs (instead of some of his great works like Save Me, which is a very well known song. Not a little number for the die hard fans).

beautifulsoup wrote:

Freddie Mercurois wrote: Paul Rodgers is an incredibly lousy motherfucker. Poor singer. This kid is really REALLY great. Judging by Brian and Roger's performances on The Cosmos Rocks... THEY should beg him to sing with them. I hope they get together and tour. I'd love to see that, specially if Brian ASSHOLE May decides to play something that's actually worth it and no more Tie your mother down and Fat bottomed girls. But, if you see it that way, Adam is the kind of guy that'd rather sing Somebody to Love than... i.e Crazy Little Thing Called Love. Brian is too self-overhyped to play more Freddie songs. He prefers to play his shittiest rock n roll songs (instead of some of his great works like Save Me, which is a very well known song. Not a little number for the die hard fans).

Off topic....Sorry - but it was funny to read your rant of the last paragraph and then your siggie immediately following...about how you saw Brian May in 08 and it was the best night of your life.  :D

Brian_Mays_Wig wrote: Im a Queen fan of 22 years... I own every Uk CD, Album, Casette, DVD, Video and 7" single, including solo. I was at the Freddie Tribute in 1992, Ive been and had my photo at Logan Place and went to Freddies statue in Montreux. I owned a Brian May guitar and I have the Crest tattoo'd on my leg.....and that bloody well hurt. I cannot abide the ruthless advertising by Brian over his bloody "musical".......its not my thing. I thought TCR was a bit pants, with the exeption of All Things That Glitter, I consider myself a true fan and always will be........I love Freddie to bits, I cried for days when he died........I even got sent home from school because my teachers all knew I was a 14 year old "superfan"......and my mates still give me grief about that to this day. Anyway....................... So I just flicked on to YouTube and watched this guy Adam Lambert to see what all of this fuss was about..............fucking amazing. What a performance and what a voice. I would pay and go to see him without a shadow of a doubt. I am not a fan of talent shows at all. But this bloke is superb. You have to really stand out and be counted.....like Leona, her version of Run still gives me goosebumps. I have always thought I listen to "proper" music, by bands and singers who have always made it on their own merit by working bloody hard to acheive their goals instead of going down the talent (less) shows but Im afraid on this occasion, as with Leona - I have to make exeptions.

mike hunt wrote: if brian goes thru with this I will lose all respect for him

Zebonka12 wrote:

  mike hunt wrote: if brian goes thru with this I will lose all respect for him

  People say that so often I think it's lost all meaning.  

mike hunt wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

  mike hunt wrote: if brian goes thru with this I will lose all respect for him

  People say that so often I think it's lost all meaning.  

If brian go's thru with this I'm throwing away all my queen albums.

Amazon wrote:

  mike hunt wrote:  

      Zebonka12 wrote:      

              mike hunt wrote:       if brian goes thru with this I will lose all respect for him      

              People say that so often I think it's lost all meaning.                      

If brian go's thru with this I'm throwing away all my queen albums.

Why be so melodramatic? Even if Brian and Roger teamed up with Brittney Spears and the Spice Girls, why would that affect what you think of the original Queen? I don't understand comments like this, as while I don't particularly want Brian and Roger to team up with Lambert either, I know that nothing that they do (not even the WWRY musical which I hated) can affect my love of the original Queen.

Thomas Tønnesen wrote: And again the fanbase is divided. It will always be this way. I'm in the group of people who are open for new music, under the Queen banner or solo. Some of the collaborations have been quite strange to say the least, and I absolutely don't like all of them. The Queen & Paul Rodgers team-up has been good, but I think it's wise they stop there. Although the Cosmos Rocking was a good album, they didn't manage to make me jump of joy, and wander day and night waiting for the follow-up. But remarks like these makes me wonder:  "Its not a good idea to ruin the legacy" - Is this music or something which life depends on? Is it sacred and made of gold? When Brian, Roger and John are gone who gives a shit. Their legacy or whatsoever will always be that they were a great band, orignial, funny and creative. This is entertainment, showbiz - not life itself. Many people take this shit too seriously. To quote some wise words: “It's only a bloody record, people get so exited about these things.” and "My songs are like Bic razors. For fun, for modern consumption. You listen to it, like it, discard it, then on to the next. Disposable pop."

mike hunt wrote: I was only kidding. I really don't take this stuff so serious. brian and roger could do what they want, and it will never change my opinion of the real queen.