Bo Alex 09.04.2009 13:53 |
First of all, escuse me for my English. Do you consider that the sound of John's bass was lowest in the last tours (in the 80's, but specially in The Works and Magic Tours) ? I hear to older gigs (like Hammy 75) and the bass sound is more powerful and louder. Maybe the fact that they incorporated a fifth musician for playing synths influenced in this. What do you think?? By the way, why John used to play with picks in the eighties, while in the seventieshe used to play more with his fingers?? |
pittrek 09.04.2009 14:16 |
Bo Alex wrote: First of all, escuse me for my English. Do you consider that the sound of John's bass was lowest in the last tours (in the 80's, but specially in The Works and Magic Tours) ? I hear to older gigs (like Hammy 75) and the bass sound is more powerful and louder. Maybe the fact that they incorporated a fifth musician for playing synths influenced in this. What do you think?? By the way, why John used to play with picks in the eighties, while in the seventieshe used to play more with his fingers?? First of all I play Microwave for a minute escuse = excuse consider = think / agree with me lowest = lower that's not critics, just a small "lecture", I also hope I wrote it correctly :) Anyway I agree with you, John's bass was very silent in the 80's. I don't know why, he's no Sid Vicious, but a great bass player. I originally thought that he had some arguments with their sound engineers and his bass was turned down on the official recordings, but he's barely audible also on the audience recordings. The same problems occurs on the studio albums, Innuendo misses bass almost completely which makes it sound like an early 90's album |
Josh Henson 09.04.2009 17:12 |
pittrek wrote:Bo Alex wrote: First of all, escuse me for my English. Do you consider that the sound of John's bass was lowest in the last tours (in the 80's, but specially in The Works and Magic Tours) ? I hear to older gigs (like Hammy 75) and the bass sound is more powerful and louder. Maybe the fact that they incorporated a fifth musician for playing synths influenced in this. What do you think?? By the way, why John used to play with picks in the eighties, while in the seventieshe used to play more with his fingers??First of all I play Microwave for a minute escuse = excuse consider = think / agree with me lowest = lower that's not critics, just a small "lecture", I also hope I wrote it correctly :) Anyway I agree with you, John's bass was very silent in the 80's. I don't know why, he's no Sid Vicious, but a great bass player. I originally thought that he had some arguments with their sound engineers and his bass was turned down on the official recordings, but he's barely audible also on the audience recordings. The same problems occurs on the studio albums, Innuendo misses bass almost completely which makes it sound like an early 90's album Dude, I usually like your posts, but I have to say on this one, you're a total fucking ass hole. |
Rick 09.04.2009 18:08 |
Dude, Peter was just giving him a small English lesson. What's wrong with that? As he already pointed out: it's not criticism. So hold your horses. |
Bo Alex 09.04.2009 20:28 |
Pittrek is a very nice guy. He's always very kind. So I accept his corrections. He is not an ass hole like Microwave. PittreK: Sid Vicious wasn't a great bass player. I hope you just have been kiding. Returning to the discussion: what do you think about John using picks instead his fingers in the 80s? |
pittrek 10.04.2009 04:12 |
Hadrian wrote:pittrek wrote:Dude, I usually like your posts, but I have to say on this one, you're a total fucking ass hole.Bo Alex wrote: First of all, escuse me for my English. Do you consider that the sound of John's bass was lowest in the last tours (in the 80's, but specially in The Works and Magic Tours) ? I hear to older gigs (like Hammy 75) and the bass sound is more powerful and louder. Maybe the fact that they incorporated a fifth musician for playing synths influenced in this. What do you think?? By the way, why John used to play with picks in the eighties, while in the seventieshe used to play more with his fingers??First of all I play Microwave for a minute escuse = excuse consider = think / agree with me lowest = lower that's not critics, just a small "lecture", I also hope I wrote it correctly :) Anyway I agree with you, John's bass was very silent in the 80's. I don't know why, he's no Sid Vicious, but a great bass player. I originally thought that he had some arguments with their sound engineers and his bass was turned down on the official recordings, but he's barely audible also on the audience recordings. The same problems occurs on the studio albums, Innuendo misses bass almost completely which makes it sound like an early 90's album Oh come on, I just noticed a few errors, as I wrote it wasn't meant to be some sort of "attack", just a small correction |
Sunshine__123456 10.04.2009 04:48 |
I think Queenzone would be a much nicer place to hang around if all people gave the same constructive feedback as Pittrak did. And if the poster doesnt agree, he can reply himself. I think it is useful and he wont make the same mistakes again. |
liam 10.04.2009 09:35 |
yes i think john's bass was much quieter in the 80's. As for using the pick, I do not know why he switched certain songs from finger playing to pick playing. The most obvious example i can think of is tie your mother down which was always played with fingers in the 70's. |
Josh Henson 10.04.2009 13:56 |
LOL |
thomasquinn 32989 10.04.2009 14:29 |
Hadrian wrote: LOL And what exactly is funny, apart from your personal idiocy? |
john bodega 11.04.2009 00:37 |
Haha, yeah... a LOL from the same person who once said "I posted this in the wrong forum? Hmmm... I don't care". It can't be worth much. |
Josh Henson 13.04.2009 19:33 |
ThomasQuinn wrote:Hadrian wrote: LOLAnd what exactly is funny, apart from your personal idiocy? Ouch, that hurt. Especially from you. |
Josh Henson 13.04.2009 19:33 |
Zebonka12 wrote: Haha, yeah... a LOL from the same person who once said "I posted this in the wrong forum? Hmmm... I don't care". It can't be worth much. Did I actually say that? Wow, I guess I should be cyber flogged or something. |
Josh Henson 13.04.2009 19:43 |
I read the post wrong and gave Pit shit for giving the poster an English 'lesson'. All too much people are so quick to jump on others for not using proper English, when they themselves don't do it. And by doing this, I was just as bad as those that do it. So, I was wrong also. |
john bodega 14.04.2009 00:02 |
Hadrian wrote: Did I actually say that? Wow, I guess I should be cyber flogged or something. I've no idea if you're being sarcastic or not but you're on the money either way! |
Josh Henson 14.04.2009 09:59 |
Zebonka12 wrote:Hadrian wrote: Did I actually say that? Wow, I guess I should be cyber flogged or something.I've no idea if you're being sarcastic or not but you're on the money either way! Good stuff! You always make me laugh - no sarcasm here. |
Legy 07.07.2009 11:30 |
You can do a lot more with a pick than you can with your fingers. John Entwistle and John Paul Jones used picks as well. Not only that, constant plucking will wear down your finer tips. Deacy had this habit of licking his fingers during performances; a sign his finger tips were wearing down. |
liam 11.07.2009 12:55 |
i disagree, fingers are much faster for songs involving more intricate playing, hence why john only used a pick on the more heavier songs where simple bass was used. John entwistle and john paul jones rarely used a pick and as stated before, when playing hard intricate songs always used their fingers. |
Legy 13.07.2009 18:25 |
The Ox is the exception to the rule. That man could play the bass like no other bassist. He is truly missed. JPJ used picks on songs like Achilles Last Stand. That song had such and crunchy fast picking sound. I guess speed depends on your taste of music. Death Metal and Trasher bassist prefer picks, at least that's what I'm told. |