| carlinpole 06.02.2009 09:10 |
Were the fantastic four members of Queen really friends?? I mean were they friends or just work mates??? |
| masterstroke_84 06.02.2009 09:46 |
Just look at Brian and Roger faces at the beggining of that interview one week after Freddie's passing... and you'll get the answer. John of course wasn't there :P |
| magicalfreddiemercury 06.02.2009 10:21 |
The interview mentioned above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in49hph_ZDg&feature=related |
| Jjeroen 06.02.2009 10:22 |
Not a single succesfull band is a collection of friends (anymore). A succesfull band is a business consisting of collegues and the members treat eachother accordingly. Of course to the outside world you make believe that you are the greatest of friends. Friendly people sell more records. But as soon as a recordcompany comes into the picture it is goodbye friendship, welcome business. A band that refuses to give that up will not stay succesfull for more then a year. Which does not mean that collegues can NOT be or stay friends in a way. And about Roger and Brian's faces... if you have been working with someone every day for the majority of your adult life - even if you don't specifically like the person - it has an impact. |
| Saif 06.02.2009 10:55 |
Jjeroen wrote: Not a single succesfull band is a collection of friends (anymore). A succesfull band is a business consisting of collegues and the members treat eachother accordingly. Of course to the outside world you make believe that you are the greatest of friends. Friendly people sell more records. But as soon as a recordcompany comes into the picture it is goodbye friendship, welcome business. A band that refuses to give that up will not stay succesfull for more then a year. Which does not mean that collegues can NOT be or stay friends in a way. And about Roger and Brian's faces... if you have been working with someone every day for the majority of your adult life - even if you don't specifically like the person - it has an impact. I agree, I think their "friendship" kinda dissolved after getting signed to their label. Before that, I think they were great friends, they went through a lot together as far as I know. I always loved hearing the stories of Freddie and Roger selling clothes on the mean streets of London. Reminded me a lot of Midnight Cowboy. But success divided them. They sure as hell got along in the studio but I remember reading somewhere that Freddie had little contact with "the boys" outside the studio(except John). One more thing about the interview- I know I'll get a lot of flak from die-hards for this, but - they could've been faking it. Public relations, you know. Brian always seems like he's going to cry during interviews, so I don't know. But it always cracks me up when some random QZ loony claims that Freddie and Brian were "like brothers". Haha... |
| Jjeroen 06.02.2009 11:17 |
Saif wrote:IOne more thing about the interview- I know I'll get a lot of flak from die-hards for this, but - they could've been faking it. Public relations, you know. Brian always seems like he's going to cry during interviews, so I don't know. But it always cracks me up when some random QZ loony claims that Freddie and Brian were "like brothers". Haha... LOL - I see what you mean (and I am a die-hard myself by the way). Brian is such a great actor. (NOT!) On the BTTL tour he 'cried' every night during Too Much Love... On the two QPR tours he 'cried' every night during LOML... All part of the SHOW - the majority of the fans truly believe that they are seeing real tears... |
| Saif 06.02.2009 11:24 |
Jjeroen wrote LOL - I see what you mean (and I am a die-hard myself by the way). Brian is such a great actor. (NOT!) On the BTTL tour he 'cried' every night during Too Much Love... On the two QPR tours he 'cried' every night during LOML... All part of the SHOW - the majority of the fans truly believe that they are seeing real tears... He wants the Show To Go On and isn't averse to faking tears for it. Brian has probably faked as many tears in concert as he has faked orgasms with his first wife. |
| Crisstti 06.02.2009 14:45 |
For what I've read, at least Freddie and Roger were close friends. Not just before they got a contract - when it seems they went everywhere together. Didn't they even live together?. Jim Hutton does say in his book that they kept talking and giggling and that they were obiously close friends. |
| geldy 06.02.2009 15:28 |
My opinion about Brian is... that he is a good business man... a great actor... I mean... he wrote The Show Must Go On... What a stupid idea... to let Freddie sing this hard words... in fact the he was going to die... (I'll soon be turning... right the corner now...) Oh Dear... Look a Queen Rocks... Brian May songs... Money can't buy happiness... But John was Freddies best friend in my eyes... A close friend who does NOT need the stage to perform or the cameras to cry... John is a great buddy... believe me! |
| new one 06.02.2009 15:30 |
Jim Hutton actually said that Roger and Freddie were quite obviously soul mates! |
| P-Staker 06.02.2009 15:46 |
Freddie and Roger were friends well before Queen. There are all the stories popping up in Queen books about Roger selling Freddie's own coat a few times at their famous stall. Now, money and the stress of showbiz change people, so who can tell how they felt at which point of their lives. They certainly had arguments and periods of not working together. But then, I don't believe bands can survive if the members don't respect one another, money or no money. Take Pink Floyd for example - they split despite money and fame that staying together would have brought them. |
| Crisstti 06.02.2009 18:38 |
Saif wrote:Jjeroen wrote LOL - I see what you mean (and I am a die-hard myself by the way). Brian is such a great actor. (NOT!) On the BTTL tour he 'cried' every night during Too Much Love... On the two QPR tours he 'cried' every night during LOML... All part of the SHOW - the majority of the fans truly believe that they are seeing real tears...He wants the Show To Go On and isn't averse to faking tears for it. Brian has probably faked as many tears in concert as he has faked orgasms with his first wife. God. Despite the fact that I've seen this attitude before in forums - so called fans saying extremely awful things about people they supposedly like... - I still feel shocked to read something like that. Why assume such intentions on the part of Brian and Roger?. They've never done anything to support your opinions about them. I mean, they lost someone they had known, worked closely with and were quite probably friends with... they saw him deteriorate for a long time... it is a very sad and draining thing... and to say that, just one week afterwards, they were faking their sadness, and that Brian fakes it now on stage... please. I don't think he cried before playing that song here, by the way. He even made a joke before. In Spanish. It was very moving, though. |
| SamLouise 06.02.2009 20:04 |
They were bound to have heated discussions are bitter rows whilst writing, recording and producing albums but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been 'friends' away from it all. Being friends doesn't mean that they had to be in each other's pockets. As far as Freddie & Roger go, I believe their friendship was always strong - you only have to watch the way they looked at each other sometimes during performances to realise that (both early and late performances) I can't say about John & Brian. |
| Saif 06.02.2009 22:44 |
SamLouise wrote: They were bound to have heated discussions are bitter rows whilst writing, recording and producing albums but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been 'friends' away from it all. Being friends doesn't mean that they had to be in each other's pockets. As far as Freddie & Roger go, I believe their friendship was always strong - you only have to watch the way they looked at each other sometimes during performances to realise that (both early and late performances) I can't say about John & Brian. Quote of the day.[img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_down.gif][/img] [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] |
| SamLouise 07.02.2009 07:26 |
Saif wrote:SamLouise wrote: They were bound to have heated discussions are bitter rows whilst writing, recording and producing albums but that doesn't mean they couldn't have been 'friends' away from it all. Being friends doesn't mean that they had to be in each other's pockets. As far as Freddie & Roger go, I believe their friendship was always strong - you only have to watch the way they looked at each other sometimes during performances to realise that (both early and late performances) I can't say about John & Brian.Quote of the day.[img=link It's a good and valid quote :) |
| Saif 07.02.2009 07:32 |
Probably. But I doubt Brian and Freddie were close. John, even if he wasn't a close friend of Freddie's, at least respected, admired or idolized him a lot. |
| john bodega 07.02.2009 08:09 |
I like to take the piss out of Brian as much as the next guy, but this thread sucks. Accusing him of fake tears.... Jesus, have you seen how worked up he gets on his Soapbox? Some fucking people.... |
| Saif 07.02.2009 08:31 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I like to take the piss out of Brian as much as the next guy, but this thread sucks. Accusing him of fake tears.... Jesus, have you seen how worked up he gets on his Soapbox? Some fucking people.... Some of the shit he gets worked up over- he has to be faking it. |
| john bodega 07.02.2009 10:24 |
One man's trash being another person's treasure, it's easy to see why an apathetic soul such as yourself would look at someone elses blog and say 'bah, why is he getting so emotionally invested in this crap!'. Regardless, it borders on plain fuckin' retarded for some of the people in this thread to go 'oh, yeah, he's faking those tears'. As if those twats would even know... |
| Rick 07.02.2009 11:20 |
Brian has hidden a few onions in his accoustic guitar, that explains it. |
| john bodega 07.02.2009 11:23 |
Nah nah; he smears pure capsaicin into his eyelids. |
| justys 07.02.2009 11:27 |
Faking the tears after Love of my life?. I've seen him live I was standing in front of the catwalk very close to Brian and I didn't notice a tear in his eyes...he really didn't cry sometimes he just wipes the sweat and some people think that he cries...:) And he often jokes after love of my life. Yes there were moments he was moved almost to tears during QPR tours but it was natural. For example in the dvd of return of the champins after Love of my life...he was moved it is clear and I'm sure he didn't fake...Freddie's mum was in the audience...they were playing again after almost 19 years...so many memories and emotions. And if he look around and see some people crying during love of my life...it is moving for sure I would be moved if I were him. And as for the topic I don't really see the point of such topics...I mean we have no idea what are their real relationship we can only suppose...anyway they've spend together a lot of time so I'm sure there is some kind of good relationship between them. But how good friends they are...really nobody can tell apart from them:) and I think it's their private thing...there is a video on youtube where the guy asks Brian and Roger about their relationship now ( it's from recent years some time before last tour) and their reaction and answer is quite funny:) it's in the end of this video and I suppose most of you have seen it before but for those who want and haven't seen it yet here's a link link |
| joe90 07.02.2009 23:29 |
Faking tears? Fuck there's some idiots on here. When they started out, of course they we're a lot closer. I'm sure Bri, Rog, and Fred all flatted together at one stage (along with about 20 others). Rog and Fred had that stall together. They went through all the trials and tribulations of becoming a succesful band that inevitably would have made them a close knit unit. Just as inevitable would have been the gradual seperation from the group to form individual lives with family and friends. Something very important and probably neccessary for Queen to maintain the long band life they had. |
| April 08.02.2009 12:58 |
masterstroke_84 wrote: Just look at Brian and Roger faces at the beggining of that interview one week after Freddie's passing... and you'll get the answer. John of course wasn't there :P They were friends, no doubt. But they didn't spend their leisure together. And why wasn't John there? I don't think it was a good idean on his part. No good words to say about Freddie? |
| carlinpole 10.02.2009 09:15 |
WOW!!! i didn't know that my topic was so interesting. Thanks to everybory for the answers. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 10.02.2009 12:32 |
April wrote:masterstroke_84 wrote: Just look at Brian and Roger faces at the beggining of that interview one week after Freddie's passing... and you'll get the answer. John of course wasn't there :PThey were friends, no doubt. But they didn't spend their leisure together. And why wasn't John there? I don't think it was a good idean on his part. No good words to say about Freddie? why wasn't John there?sorry to answer you with another question but...why would have he been there?it was a hard time,they were not promoting an album,a friend had just passed away,probably he thought he needn't have to expose himself to everyone in such a hard moment and was an understandable decision. |
| April 10.02.2009 17:23 |
Maybe you are right! But I think it is friends who just have to say good words about their friend who dies, especially when there were so many rumours and gossip. I don't see anything bad in that. But still you maybe right... |
| Crisstti 10.02.2009 18:22 |
justys wrote: Faking the tears after Love of my life?. I've seen him live I was standing in front of the catwalk very close to Brian and I didn't notice a tear in his eyes...he really didn't cry sometimes he just wipes the sweat and some people think that he cries...:) And he often jokes after love of my life. Yes there were moments he was moved almost to tears during QPR tours but it was natural. For example in the dvd of return of the champins after Love of my life...he was moved it is clear and I'm sure he didn't fake...Freddie's mum was in the audience...they were playing again after almost 19 years...so many memories and emotions. And if he look around and see some people crying during love of my life...it is moving for sure I would be moved if I were him. And as for the topic I don't really see the point of such topics...I mean we have no idea what are their real relationship we can only suppose...anyway they've spend together a lot of time so I'm sure there is some kind of good relationship between them. But how good friends they are...really nobody can tell apart from them:) and I think it's their private thing...there is a video on youtube where the guy asks Brian and Roger about their relationship now ( it's from recent years some time before last tour) and their reaction and answer is quite funny:) it's in the end of this video and I suppose most of you have seen it before but for those who want and haven't seen it yet here's a link link Very interesting interview, thanks for posting :). Actually, I haven't yet reached the part related to this discussion, but I have to say I like what Brian says about the concert they did in Sun City (South Africa). I cannot actually understand everything they say, but I think Roger says he thinks they were naive, and Brian says he actually thinks they did some good by going, and that Nelson Mandela said he didn't have a problem with them having done that concert, and so that if other people do, well it's their problem. I had once read a quote by Brian about it, but it was in some question and answer thing, and the person who posted it didn't give any reference, so I didn't know if it was true, but it actually sounded quite similar to what he said in this interview, so I guess it's true |
