QueenZone discussion #1164945

Jjeroen wrote: Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack? And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs. Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme. It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.   But then again... you bash French cinema... I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!

P-Staker wrote:

Jjeroen wrote: Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack? And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs. Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme. It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.   But then again... you bash French cinema... I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!

Incidentally, I listened to movie scores (say Morricone, Williams - even Queen's Flash) and they all feature some variety and development. Compare If you bothered to learn the first thing about things you pretend to understand, you'd know that the riff is a short repeated musical phrase that fits into the theme. The Furia "theme" is just a short I-IV-V riff with a tonic in Am and dominant in E. 20 fucking times. It's worse than a Ramones CD. You'd really do well to shut up about music until you can at least play "Oh, Sussana." And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?

And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?

P-Staker wrote: And what the hell's with the squealing synth pads? They would fit a 1953 sci-fi feature, but a '99 film?

P-Staker wrote:

Jjeroen wrote: Did you ever listen to another actual soundtrack? And I mean a proper soundtrack, a SCORE, not a soundtrack as in a collection of songs. Pop any in and count the theme's (soundtracks have THEME's, no riffs!) or variations on that same theme. It is very common for a score. As a score Furia realy is not that bad.   But then again... you bash French cinema... I bet you watch movies from Hollywood!

Incidentally, I listened to movie scores (say Morricone, Williams - even Queen's Flash) and they all feature some variety and development. Compare If you bothered to learn the first thing about things you pretend to understand, you'd know that the riff is a short repeated musical phrase that fits into the theme. The Furia "theme" is just a short I-IV-V riff with a tonic in Am and dominant in E. 20 fucking times. It's worse than a Ramones CD. You'd really do well to shut up about music until you can at least play "Oh, Sussana." And yes, French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks. It's either pseudointellectualism without substance or kitsch. The last French film I tried to watch was Amelie; I made it halfway through and then snapped the DVD in half for wasting my time. And why on Earth can't French actors talk and move at the same time?

French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks.

Micrówave wrote:

French cinema is like French cheese - the French think it's something special because it stinks.

Greatness. Give me Die Hard 2 over any French film.  Yes, I said Die Hard 2.  They should have stopped after The Red Balloon and called it a day.

Marcos Napier wrote: FLASH! A-AAAAA!

 ThomasQuinn wrote: Dismissing the whole of French cinema as utter crap leads me tot suspect the author of such comments has an IQ under 80. Go watch Ascenseur Pour L'Échafaud, for a start, then we'll talk.

Rick wrote:

Marcos Napier wrote: FLASH! A-AAAAA!

This answer sums it all up.

P-Staker wrote: I never suggested the French, as a nation, were all arrogant and chauvinist. I criticise French film (and French moldy cheese - seriously, guys, what the fuck? That's disgusting food!), but, for example, I admire French athletes. I supported France in the finals of 2006 World Cup, and I was furious when that wanker Materazzi provoked the greatest European football legend of all times, Zinedine Zidane. And please understand that it's not "either you love French cinema, or you love crap." Hollywood produces tons of crap, but who can deny Welles, Hitchcock, Kubrick, Coppola, Fleming, Branagh or Fosse are geniuses? And how about Tarkovsky from Russia, Kurosawa from Japan or Bergman from Sweden - I'm sorry, but 50s "film noir" looks like school plays next to them. How about modern Slavic film, the ruthless yet uplifting "Pretty Village, Pretty Flame" by Dragojevic or heart-shattering Time of the Gypsies by Kusturica (who's a despicable man, but very fine director.) How about Almodovar, del Toro, Ki-Duk, Matanic, Lee? All fresher, more interesting and better filmmakers than anything French film ever had to offer. Yes, the Lumiere brothers invented the film technology and Georges Melies was the first to realise films can tell a fictional story. That's the great - in fact, crucial - and undeniable contribution of the French to the film. After that, it's downhill. At least in the 50s the likes of Truffaut and Godard were copying good Hollywood films, but today, you get Besson who's a poor man's Lucas and Jeunet, a poor man's Boyle.

Zebonka12 wrote: Chuck Norris didn't lose his virginity.  Chuck Norris never loses.

P-Staker wrote: I never suggested the French, as a nation, were all arrogant and chauvinist. I criticise French film (and French moldy cheese - seriously, guys, what the fuck? That's disgusting food!), but, for example, I admire French athletes. I supported France in the finals of 2006 World Cup, and I was furious when that wanker Materazzi provoked the greatest European football legend of all times, Zinedine Zidane. And please understand that it's not "either you love French cinema, or you love crap." Hollywood produces tons of crap, but who can deny Welles, Hitchcock, Kubrick, Coppola, Fleming, Branagh or Fosse are geniuses? And how about Tarkovsky from Russia, Kurosawa from Japan or Bergman from Sweden - I'm sorry, but 50s "film noir" looks like school plays next to them. How about modern Slavic film, the ruthless yet uplifting "Pretty Village, Pretty Flame" by Dragojevic or heart-shattering Time of the Gypsies by Kusturica (who's a despicable man, but very fine director.) How about Almodovar, del Toro, Ki-Duk, Matanic, Lee? All fresher, more interesting and better filmmakers than anything French film ever had to offer. Yes, the Lumiere brothers invented the film technology and Georges Melies was the first to realise films can tell a fictional story. That's the great - in fact, crucial - and undeniable contribution of the French to the film. After that, it's downhill. At least in the 50s the likes of Truffaut and Godard were copying good Hollywood films, but today, you get Besson who's a poor man's Lucas and Jeunet, a poor man's Boyle.