QueenZone discussion #1164625

Dane wrote: ow well, they still have a chance to redeem themselves by making a nice video for the upcoming DVD releases.

Bo Alex wrote: Maybe this was discussed before, escuse me. But I have watched several times stuff like Rare Live, Champions of the world and Magic Years and these guys really suck. I mean, they always have so much mistakes with dates, Rare Live with the dates, the retrospective sequency in the begining of Champios of the world, the interviews in black and white from COTW which say "1973", but they are from 1977, and many more). I don't understand too much about Cinema or documentaries or whatever you called it (sorry for my english too), but I can realise that these guys are not at the level of a band like Queen. In my opinion, the only good thing they've done is the "I'm going slightly mad" video. What do you think??

Marcelo_argentina wrote: I absolutely agree Bo Alex..I never understood how "The torpedo twins"  could last so many time with Queen...I mean...they are total disaster as professionals...How Could Brian -being so perfectionist- let them keep on working on  Queen related material??'...Another mistery....

redspecialusa wrote: I don't think hiring Greg Brooks was a questionable move...just because he won't listen to you doesn't mean his hiring was 'questionable.' Even though we've paid his salary, we aren't the ones signing the pay cheques. I think he's done a fine job as the archivist. Jim Beach however is another story. I don't know that I really have anything bad to say about the Torpedo Twins, I think they did as best as they could with what they had too. Some things I wish they had done better...but I like the videos that they did, and they worked well with the band too.

Panchgani wrote: Queen do make some questionable hiring decisions ... The Shefields, Prenter, Beach, Brooks, Gray, DoRo ... etc

Micrówave wrote: Maybe this was discussed before, excuse me.  BO ALEX SUCKS!!!!! He's complaining about "so much mistakes", so let's examine his original post: SENTENCE #1:  Maybe this was discussed before, escuse me. Not bad, only you mispelled "escuse" and we do NOT even have a complete sentence. SENTENCE #2:  But I have watched several times stuff like Rare Live, Champions of the world and Magic Years and these guys really suck. Perhaps you meant to say  "But several times I have watched stuff like" but you didn't know how to put it into proper order.  Also, you list 3 titles but only put a comma after the first one.  There should be a comma after the word "world", which should also be capitalized.  Finally you used a conjunction (AND) to join to complete thoughts, which also requires a comma after the word "Years".  Only four mistakes in this sentence. SENTENCE #3:I mean, they always have so much mistakes with dates, Rare Live with the dates, the retrospective sequency in the begining of Champios of the world, the interviews in black and white from COTW which say "1973", but they are from 1977, and many more). Holy crap.  Well the most noticeable error is the fact that you have closed parenthesis without opening them.  Plus, "they always have so much mistakes"... you could say that about your post, kinda.  You spelled "Champios".  Is that a new Queen breakfast cereal?  You put a comma after "I mean" for no apparent reason.  SENTENCE #4:  I don't understand too much about Cinema or documentaries or whatever you called it (sorry for my english too), but I can realise that these guys are not at the level of a band like Queen. I didn't call it anything, but you insist I did.  You went to past tense (called) and then back to present tense in the same sentence (can realise).  As far as I know, Queen has never filmed a documentary, Cinema, or whatever you called it... so No, they are not at the same level at all. SENTENCE #4:  In my opinion, the only good thing they've done is the "I'm going slightly mad" video. Going Slightly Mad needs to be capitalized.  SENTENCE #5:  What do you think?? I think that you shouldn't be complaining about people making mistakes.

Micrówave wrote: Maybe this was discussed before, excuse me.  BO ALEX SUCKS!!!!! He's complaining about "so much mistakes", so let's examine his original post: SENTENCE #1:  Maybe this was discussed before, escuse me. Not bad, only you mispelled "escuse" and we do NOT even have a complete sentence. SENTENCE #2:  But I have watched several times stuff like Rare Live, Champions of the world and Magic Years and these guys really suck. Perhaps you meant to say  "But several times I have watched stuff like" but you didn't know how to put it into proper order.  Also, you list 3 titles but only put a comma after the first one.  There should be a comma after the word "world", which should also be capitalized.  Finally you used a conjunction (AND) to join to complete thoughts, which also requires a comma after the word "Years".  Only four mistakes in this sentence. SENTENCE #3:I mean, they always have so much mistakes with dates, Rare Live with the dates, the retrospective sequency in the begining of Champios of the world, the interviews in black and white from COTW which say "1973", but they are from 1977, and many more). Holy crap.  Well the most noticeable error is the fact that you have closed parenthesis without opening them.  Plus, "they always have so much mistakes"... you could say that about your post, kinda.  You spelled "Champios".  Is that a new Queen breakfast cereal?  You put a comma after "I mean" for no apparent reason.  SENTENCE #4:  I don't understand too much about Cinema or documentaries or whatever you called it (sorry for my english too), but I can realise that these guys are not at the level of a band like Queen. I didn't call it anything, but you insist I did.  You went to past tense (called) and then back to present tense in the same sentence (can realise).  As far as I know, Queen has never filmed a documentary, Cinema, or whatever you called it... so No, they are not at the same level at all. SENTENCE #4:  In my opinion, the only good thing they've done is the "I'm going slightly mad" video. Going Slightly Mad needs to be capitalized.  SENTENCE #5:  What do you think?? I think that you shouldn't be complaining about people making mistakes.

Micrówave wrote:       I didn't insult you, I corrected your MISTAKES. And then I gave my opinion about you complaining about other people's MISTAKES. (that's right... right after you complained about other people making MISTAKES)       But, If you'd like an insult... here goes:       If BO ALEX made a video, it would probably be almost as good as a Treasure Moment video.       By the way, your username still sucks.  You have two first names.  I can't stand that!!!  Almost as bad as having a last name as your first name.  You're nobody unless you're a reliable, important, kitchen appliance. and finally... You're so @#$! that you can't even use the spellcheck feature.  I can.  It's really easy.  You just click the button that has a checkmark with 'abc' written above it.

Panchgani wrote: Back to the subject at hand ... DoRo still sucks.

Micrówave wrote: So Barbara, let me get this straight. Coming on here telling us that something "sucks" and then just rambling on about it for another paragraph is entertaining and enlightening for you.  But actually correcting someone (from Argentina) who is too lazy to see that "Champios" is spelled wrong is just crossing the line.  He's even got the nerve to insult them for things beyond their control.  I don't believe Rudi was the one who labelled all the tapes "1973", but BO ALEX seems to hold them responsible. It really did sound like an Argentinian Breakfast Cereal, didn't it?  Ok, well you get your kicks and I'll get mine.  To all you offended Argentinians: If I decide to visit one of your websites, I'll make sure I hable enough español so that I don't look like a complete tool.  But then to some people, an Argentian tool with an opinion is entertaining and enlightening.  The Argentinian Brian May T-Shirt Scandal sure was. 

Holly2003 wrote: Indeed. Their documentaries and concert films are among the worst I've seen. I watched a Ramones documentary recently and it was entertaining and interesting to me even though I don't even like the Ramones! However, the DoRo idiots make me not want to watch footage of a band I actually do like. Quite incredible. They have the attention spans of hyperactive children and cannot seem to focus on one image, angle or interview for more that a split second before cutting to something else. Presumably they think this is 'exciting': it's not, it's f**king annoying beyond belief!

Pim Derks wrote:

  Holly2003 wrote: Indeed. Their documentaries and concert films are among the worst I've seen. I watched a Ramones documentary recently and it was entertaining and interesting to me even though I don't even like the Ramones! However, the DoRo idiots make me not want to watch footage of a band I actually do like. Quite incredible. They have the attention spans of hyperactive children and cannot seem to focus on one image, angle or interview for more that a split second before cutting to something else. Presumably they think this is 'exciting': it's not, it's f**king annoying beyond belief!

I'm quite sure Ramones fans wouldn't like that documentary for the same reasons we don't like Champions of the World of Rare Live. For the average fan these documentaries give a good overview of an artist - but as soon as you know a bit more about the history of the band, you'll notice faults and stuff. But the target group for, say Champions of the World, does not consist of die-hard Queenfans. Same goes for almost every release we've seen in the last decade.

My Valentine wrote That's pretty cheap when you deal with a foreign language speaker. Spanish is only my 3rd foreign language and when I speak Spanish it's certainly by far not so good as Bo Alex' English. It's probably very funny for the natives but they respect the effort. I have never met Spanish speaking people who acted superior because of other peoples' language deficit. Bo Alex does not look like a "tool" to me at all - whatever this is supposed to mean.

KevoM wrote: Why not have a dig at their fashion sense too, that was in the late 80s/early 90s? The mistakes ok, no excuse but but their editing techniques and equipment was of it's time,  pre PC and pre adobe Premiere.  Bit unfair to criticize it some 20 years later!

Micrówave wrote:

Bo Alex wrote:

KevoM wrote: Why not have a dig at their fashion sense too, that was in the late 80s/early 90s? The mistakes ok, no excuse but but their editing techniques and equipment was of it's time,  pre PC and pre adobe Premiere.  Bit unfair to criticize it some 20 years later!

Good point. Fashion from that years was terrible.

Ken8 wrote:

Bo Alex wrote:

KevoM wrote: Why not have a dig at their fashion sense too, that was in the late 80s/early 90s? The mistakes ok, no excuse but but their editing techniques and equipment was of it's time,  pre PC and pre adobe Premiere.  Bit unfair to criticize it some 20 years later!

Good point. Fashion from that years was terrible.

Fashion, sure, but it's not as if people couldn't edit accurately long before the digital age. To be fair, "Magic Years" was a treat when it was released.  My problem with DoRo is that they became lazy fast, reusing segments lifted from "Magic Years" etc and dropping them into later docos as opposed to going back to the original source material and doing a new edit, like professional productions do.  I don't know how many times I've seen Sydney '85 intercut with the audience at Knebworth '86. Oh, and "Rare Live" is a mess.

Zebonka's Tiny Ding-a-ling wrote:  you are 38 years old... my arse your that old! Your lucky if your 15 going by the sheer immaturity of your replies. In fact I hope now everyone at QZ knows how much of a fanny you are.

Zebonka12 wrote:

Zebonka's Tiny Ding-a-ling wrote:  you are 38 years old... my arse your that old! Your lucky if your 15 going by the sheer immaturity of your replies. In fact I hope now everyone at QZ knows how much of a fanny you are.

Oh the irony.

brians wig wrote: Okay guys. I'm English. You may know of us. We conquered the world and made sure that everyone else could speak our language so we didn't have to learn theirs! I can't speak a word of any language except French (and even that's a struggle), so when I come on this forum and write postings and private messages to other fans whose first language ISN'T English and get replies back that I understand, it amazes me. I may occasionally have a little laugh at how some of it is written (there have been some uncomprehensible posts!), but at the end of the day, you people speak my language and I do NOT speak yours. By all means, correct people's written English if the intent is to help them improve, but don't slag them off. Respect to everyone here that isn't English but writes in English, regardless of whether it is perfect or not, and "Thank You" for making life easy for this lazy Englishman! [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img] 

Zebonka's Tiny Ding-a-ling wrote: ??? Poor wee Zebonka... what's up... gone in a little huff cos someone used your username?

Why don't you go away and think up some sick shit about "niggers... aids victims... people dying in plane crashes etc"... all to try be a clever little fuck? Doesn't it ever get boring. You're that predictable these days that surely you can see how repetitive you've got.

You're the guy with an answer to everything! Try actually think about it for a minute and count how many times someone has either taken offense at your 'harmless' quirks

are you really that fucking sad mate?

I'll leave it be now... I know your a busy man... with half your day spent arguing here and the other half making up shit videos for YouTube trying to read the sex scene of the terminator novel... funny shit...

  Daniel Nester wrote: Oh, I am sorry.  I thought everyone knew what a troll is. From Wikipedia: An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

Zebonka12 wrote: They were trying to provoke an emotional response when they edited the video for "The Show Must Go On". Those... evil, evil trolls. By the wayside, I won't say definitively that I'm bowing out of this discussion now, but I'm a bit bored of it as it's one I've had many times.  For now though, I'd like to say this much; as long as you guys (Nester, and V for Vendetta there.... the anonymous guy) are aware of the massive hypocrisy involved in 'fighting fire with fire' and exhibiting trollish behaviour to stick it to me .....  then all is well.  Enjoy yourselves!

Zebonka's Tiny Ding-a-ling wrote: We're merely pointing out that you come on here (every 5 mins it seems) to stir up trouble and rarely talk anything about Queen.

He's right, you are a troll.

Could you point out any other time I've showed Trollish behaviour here at QZ?

But wait, SirGH, pittrek, YV etc... they have tons of posts but they don't get involved with these silly little arguments every post?

You have a cheek to say "anonymous", because people must know by now that you've got nothing else to say here at QZ apart from trying to mock people, or shock them or get dragged into stupid arguments like this...

I poked a little fun at you... and see how you reacted. So don't bullshit by saying you just harmlessly poke fun at people and they take it either too serious or the wrong way, because you've just reacted in the exact same way. So fuck off... maybe you've "overstayed your welcome" you stubborn twat.

PS... can't believe you actually provided a LINK to try justify how funny people think you are...

goinback wrote: Brian is a nice guy and won't fire someone, that's why they still have a job.

Zebonka12 wrote: I've just realised how silly this looks.  I'm talking to my own ding-a-ling.

redspecialusa wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote: I've just realised how silly this looks.  I'm talking to my own ding-a-ling.

Did he spit on someone again?

Zebonka12 wrote: You have my blessing

Panchgani wrote: Who is this dingaling guy?  I see he joined QZ 6 months ago, and then "brilliantly" changed his nick a few days ago. So this dingaling is not entirely anonymous.  Anybody remember his username?

Zebonka12 wrote: As I've said, if I ever post anything redundant or silly, it's usually in a thread that deserves it.

Zebonka's Tiny Ding-a-ling wrote: Listen, I agree this is silly... I've probably overreacted a bit, but you must realise it's not really fair for you to decide which threads deserve mocking and which don't.

You've got to remember that there are also some younger fans, or newer fans who like to chat about the topics you have deemed deserve mocking.

Some folk enjoy posting seriously in some less serious subjects, but that's up to them surely? I just think that more people might start getting involved here if they weren't worried that they were going to be made fun of... no matter how harmlessly that fun is meant.

You actually can be quite funny, but you've been here for a long while like many others, what topics did you get involved with when you first came here?

Zebonka12 wrote:

what topics did you get involved with when you first came here?

Daniel Nester wrote: He's almost single-handedly ruined Queenzone's boards.

BTW, I would be glad to talk about this in a thread that covers this very topic of trolls like Zebonka have such a run of the place here on QZ.

Now, wouldn't it be great if we could just talk about the topic at hand, without Zebonka et al. going on and saying, "Yeah, well, if Freddie hadn't stuck his arse out and gotten AIDS ...."?

knakenrudi wrote: Zebonka rules

Zebonka's Tiny Ding-a-ling wrote: I would have PM'd you, but that feature has been down for a wee while.

Bulsarian wrote: The Torpedo Twins suck? LOL   I challenge anyone on this site who thinks just that to go out and have more success than they have! Go on.

ParisNair wrote: As already stated, I'm Going Slightly Mad was fun and creative. I feel this should have been our Freddie's last video instead of TATDOOL. He had enough make-up on to hide behind, unlike TATDOOL where he still looks terrible inspite of the make-up artist's best efforts and the B&W video. The whole video has a gloomy feel, not like Freddie would have wanted.

Bowie's response to Rudi in our Freddie's tribute concert documentary was funny. Infact I liked this documentary better than the actual concert even :-D

Bulsarian wrote: The Torpedo Twins suck? LOL   I challenge anyone on this site who thinks just that to go out and have more success than they have! Go on.

Daniel Nester wrote: Jesus this guy Zebonka is a shmuck.  He really is.  People don't come here anymore all because of this guy. 

Daniel Nester wrote: Jesus this guy Zebonka is a shmuck.  He really is.  People don't come here anymore all because of this guy. 

Daniel Nester wrote: Jesus this guy Zebonka is a shmuck.  He really is.  People don't come here anymore all because of this guy. 

Daniel Nester wrote: Jesus this guy Zebonka is a shmuck.  He really is.  People don't come here anymore all because of this guy. 

People don't come here anymore all because of this guy. 

Erin wrote: QZ group picture...

Daniel Nester wrote: Oh, now I am a troll?  That's rich. 

Daniel Nester wrote: Congrats. Your 8071th post.

Bo Alex wrote: Please stop all the fighting. This topic is to talk about DoRo.

Micrówave wrote:

Bo Alex wrote: Please stop all the fighting. This topic is to talk about DoRo.

Side note:  This is actually pretty good English.  Thank you for actually taking the time to do so.  It makes it so much easier for the reader to respect the speaker. Did my ball-breaking actually cause this?  Then that would mean that I brought something useful to this thread while staying on topic.

Micrówave wrote:   What do I do now, Professor Internet Etiquette?

Holly2003 wrote: If you don't believe the Torpedo Twins suck, check out The Queen Phenomenon -- every cheesy special effect, badly edited interview, and out-of-context quote I've come to expect of these disastrously untalented oiks.

Zebonka12 wrote: Are they responsible for that awful interview compilation that's floating around... it's frequently referred to as "Freddie's LAST INTERVIEW" all because of a quote they include at the start where he says 'you're probably the last person I'm speaking to'. I don't know if that edit was their doing, and I doubt they intended for people to take the ball and run with it by giving it a misleading title, but I get really sick of that thing to be honest.   Nevermind the fact that the quality of his voice changes with every quote...

Micrówave wrote: So Barbara, let me get this straight. Coming on here telling us that something "sucks" and then just rambling on about it for another paragraph is entertaining and enlightening for you.  But actually correcting someone (from Argentina) who is too lazy to see that "Champios" is spelled wrong is just crossing the line.  He's even got the nerve to insult them for things beyond their control.  I don't believe Rudi was the one who labelled all the tapes "1973", but BO ALEX seems to hold them responsible. It really did sound like an Argentinian Breakfast Cereal, didn't it?  Ok, well you get your kicks and I'll get mine.  To all you offended Argentinians: If I decide to visit one of your websites, I'll make sure I hable enough español so that I don't look like a complete tool.  But then to some people, an Argentian tool with an opinion is entertaining and enlightening.  The Argentinian Brian May T-Shirt Scandal sure was. 

inu-liger wrote: Yes they are. It was on "Champions Of The World".

Zebonka12 wrote:

inu-liger wrote: Yes they are. It was on "Champions Of The World".

Oh good, then I can say this with a clear conscience : fuck the brothers DoRo.  I can picture them wearing each other as hats.  Treasure Moment style.

Zebonka12 wrote: I'd forgotten how much I fucking loved this thread.

Zebonka12 wrote: I reckon the Doro guys were horrible editors and mediocre conceptualists. Consider that most of the best parts of the Slightly Mad video was stuff that came from Freddie's input. Dave Mallett has it all over them, their arses, and their balls, and if ever their videos turned out well, it was because someone came to them with a great idea (Breakthru) or the subject matter alone was enough to carry it (Days of our Lives, as if I even need to explain that). They were just very lucky to be in the right place at the right time with some cameras.

Zebonka12 wrote: Honestly. When I do fork over the money for a decent camera, I'll probably spend at six months making sure I know how to avoid making everything look 'trendy' (ie. spastic, constant defocusing and all the steadiness of a Michael J Fox home movie).

Zebonka12 wrote: Sorry, but after seeing the same damn clips and the same predictable editing from the same boring brothers giving each other the same handjobs after all of those years ... it gets boring.