queenrules2007 28.01.2009 17:55 |
ok heres something ive wanted to do for a while just havent had the cahnce out of these two albums dark side of the moon (pink floyd) <1973> and a night at the opera (queen) <1975> which would you consider being the best sound wise and look wise with cover concept ect ect i love queen but everyone say dark side of the moon has had a better inpact on the music industry then a night the opera but what do you guys think? |
Sebastian 28.01.2009 20:14 |
I think it's more fair to compare 'DSotM' with 'Queen II', since they're chronologically closer and have a more similar formula. |
steven 35638 28.01.2009 20:16 |
Either way Dark Side of the Moon probably had more of an impact. |
john bodega 28.01.2009 21:36 |
I shouldn't be saying this on a Queen forum but I feel Pink Floyd made better 'albums', as complete pieces of art anyway. With an album like ANATO or Queen II, I find that while I like all of the songs, it's not the same as a concept album where there's an actual theme. |
Saif 28.01.2009 22:47 |
Dark Side of the Moon is better than A Night At The Opera and had a greater impact because it sold much more. I think Queen II is better than DSotM but then again, I think it's better than a lot of things. :P Some say Queen II is a concept album but that's up for debate(I personally don't think so). |
mike hunt 29.01.2009 04:55 |
Zebonka12 wrote: I shouldn't be saying this on a Queen forum but I feel Pink Floyd made better 'albums', as complete pieces of art anyway. With an album like ANATO or Queen II, I find that while I like all of the songs, it's not the same as a concept album where there's an actual theme. most would say pink floyd made better albums than Queen, but I'm not sure if I agree. Albums like SHA, ADATR and opera are pretty awsome, Though floyd might have been more consistent. Even Queen's best albums usually had one dud. |
Al TurHao 29.01.2009 06:25 |
Oh... if only Queen had followed that brilliant idea and had released ANATO and ADATR as a double album... |
Al TurHao 29.01.2009 06:30 |
I agree with Zebonka, Queen albuns have always been a sum of songs and not concept albuns. The nearest concept we have on the Queen catalogue is Queen II's B side. As for Pink Floyd (and Roger Waters solo), they mostly aimed for the conceptual format. As an album, a whole piece, I can't remember a better album than "The Wall". Ever. |
thomasquinn 32989 29.01.2009 11:27 |
Queen II was of greater artistic merit than Dark Side Of The Moon, IMHO, but DSOTM was better produced and had a much greater impact. |
Holly2003 29.01.2009 12:01 |
I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else. |
thomasquinn 32989 29.01.2009 12:42 |
Like with Bob Dylan, I disagree with you. |
teleman 29.01.2009 12:45 |
I think DSOTM is more cohesive album. I would almost describe it as a soundscape. I prefer listening to ANATO from start to finish. |
Bo Alex 29.01.2009 12:55 |
Pink Floyd made better albums than Queen (I mean, how you say, more cohesive like an entire entity). But Queen made better songs. Both things are important, but the music still beeing the songs. I think that. |
Marcelo_argentina 29.01.2009 14:02 |
concept albums??? cohesive albums??? double concept??' What that fuck??? I imagine Freddie's face being requested about such a thing!! Go playing some rock and roll, you fuckers!! |
thomasquinn 32989 29.01.2009 14:03 |
Marcelo_argentina wrote: concept albums??? cohesive albums??? double concept??' What that fuck??? I imagine Freddie's face being requested about such a thing!! Go playing some rock and roll, you fuckers!! So much for your musical credibility. |
inu-liger 29.01.2009 15:05 |
Holly2003 wrote: I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else. I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them. VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him. |
Holly2003 29.01.2009 15:11 |
inu-liger wrote:Holly2003 wrote: I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them. VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him. So what? I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away... ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at all |
goinback 29.01.2009 16:19 |
Queen and Pink Floyd are my two equal favorite bands, because they're completely different but both the best at what they do. Queen is more melody-driven and technically brilliant, while Pink Floyd is pure emotion/multimedia. It's hard to compare them since it's apples/oranges. ANATO/DSOTM are both supposed to be two completely different things. I do think the DSOTM album cover may be the best album cover ever though, it perfectly defines what's on the record and becomes part of the package. You could make the argument however, that each album is the best each band put out, therefore they'd be about equal. (Personally I don't believe those are each bands' best albums, but many do.) DSOTM has definitely had more of a cultural impact though, so that may give it a huge leg up. One interesting similarity both bands do have is how they were pushing lights and visuals in live shows.... |
Saif 30.01.2009 00:55 |
Holly2003 wrote:inu-liger wrote:So what? I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away... ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at allHolly2003 wrote: I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them. VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him. Bad comparison. "Have a Cigar" was a crappy song to begin with. My brother went to see Roger Waters live in Mumbai barely 2-3 years ago and he said it was fantastic. That said, I'll concede that Pink Floyd can be extremely boring sometimes and you have to be stoned to enjoy some of their music. |
inu-liger 30.01.2009 01:10 |
Saif wrote:I also saw Roger Waters live (in first row!) in 2007. Agreed, it was a fantastic show :-D (I also recorded it, in case anyone is interested in a copy!)Holly2003 wrote:Bad comparison. "Have a Cigar" was a crappy song to begin with. My brother went to see Roger Waters live in Mumbai barely 2-3 years ago and he said it was fantastic.inu-liger wrote:So what? I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away... ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at allHolly2003 wrote: I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them. VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him. That said, I'll concede that Pink Floyd can be extremely boring sometimes and you have to be stoned to enjoy some of their music. I don't think it's boring really. But for some people, might be an acquired taste. However that said, not much music will put me to sleep as easily when I'm *really* tired, so I can kind of see what people mean when they say PF's music puts them to sleep :-P |
thomasquinn 32989 30.01.2009 10:59 |
Saif wrote:Holly2003 wrote:Bad comparison. "Have a Cigar" was a crappy song to begin with. My brother went to see Roger Waters live in Mumbai barely 2-3 years ago and he said it was fantastic. That said, I'll concede that Pink Floyd can be extremely boring sometimes and you have to be stoned to enjoy some of their music.inu-liger wrote:So what? I didn't say they were sh*t, only that I can't get into them. I enjoyed The Foo Fighters' cover version of Have a Cigar rather than the original. Fire away... ps I saw Dave Gilmore live at the Mandella hall in Belfast about 20 years ago, and it wasn't very memorable at allHolly2003 wrote: I can't get into Pink Floyd at all. Like Bob Dylan, their songs always sound better when performed by someone else.I'll agree with the Bob Dylan part, but to say that about Pink Floyd, you should be basically shot for saying that about them. VERY few people can play David Gilmour's solos like him. "Have A Cigar" a crappy song? Are you joking? |
Rick 30.01.2009 11:06 |
A Saucerful Of A Secrets is magic. The song I mean. Especially the Celestial Voices bit is incredible. Though being quite simple, it's has this addictive touch to it. I emulate that bit regularly on my keyboard. |
Saif 30.01.2009 12:22 |
Rick wrote: A Saucerful Of A Secrets is magic. The song I mean. Especially the Celestial Voices bit is incredible. Though being quite simple, it's has this addictive touch to it. I emulate that bit regularly on my keyboard.The Syd Barrett days were golden... a shame he went mad. |
goinback 30.01.2009 15:07 |
Well Floyd has so many better songs than "Have A Cigar", though it's not too bad...again better in the context of the album, since they're an album band. |
thomasquinn 32989 31.01.2009 07:10 |
Saif wrote:Rick wrote: A Saucerful Of A Secrets is magic. The song I mean. Especially the Celestial Voices bit is incredible. Though being quite simple, it's has this addictive touch to it. I emulate that bit regularly on my keyboard.The Syd Barrett days were golden... a shame he went mad. Disregarding for a moment that Syd wasn't really in the band anymore when that album was recorded (he was only involved in the song Jugband Blues). |
Al TurHao 31.01.2009 10:36 |
If my memory serves me right, isn't Sourceful of Secrets that song where the 75% is the band making random noise (and a pretty shity one)? Of course that the end (celestial voice) is indeed amazing. But as a whole, naaa.... |
john bodega 31.01.2009 13:16 |
The Pompeii version is art. It should've been the only thing packed on the Voyager Gold Disc. |
thomasquinn 32989 01.02.2009 11:12 |
Zebonka12 wrote: The Pompeii version is art. It should've been the only thing packed on the Voyager Gold Disc. The whole Pompeii dvd is awesome, if you ask me. Great "Careful With That Axe, Eugene". |
john bodega 01.02.2009 13:01 |
T'was the most worthwhile purchase I've made in months. My only gripe is the 'specialness' of the special edition. I'd like the nicer picture, the better sound, and the added interviews, but I'd like it without all of the computer generated planet imagery. Still a fantastic DVD though, and they were good enough to include the original edit. |