| marcoekelo 07.01.2009 16:20 |
As requested by some of you |
| FaBu 07.01.2009 17:41 |
[img=/images/smiley/msn/cake.gif][/img] Thank you! |
| FaBu 07.01.2009 17:41 |
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| TheGame 07.01.2009 18:05 |
I dont understand these shares. There are no info whatsoever, wouldnt including info benefit all of us? |
| on my way up 08.01.2009 04:30 |
Over the past few months I explored the music(some of it)of Frank Zappa. I also downloaded a few shows from Zappateers. That's the fans/collectors sharing site. It's the most impressive site of that kind that I've ever seen. People treat each other and Zappa and his musicians with respect and they share whatever they have. They know what they're talking about: both regarding the recordings(who taped, what equipment, who did the transfer and when, what generation of tape,...) and the performances. Here on QZ Queen fans are selfish, whenever someone asks a question the chances are bigger that person gets an insult than a helpful reply. And when it comes down to sharing we get these kind of uploads....totally unbelievable. I'm a very disappointed Queen fan actually. I know we had this kind of discussion before but the condition of the sharing forum is piss poor. There are no other words for it. I'm really sad about it. And you know who's an idiot: someone who shares something NEW(being something which hasn't been online before or that few traders have managed to get). Do you know why? Well, all the others will download, say thank you and keep whatever they have for themselves. By the way, I think about 4 new Zappa recordings have emerged, in 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(I know we're only 08/01) And there was new stuff in december 2008 too. Actually, there are upgrades(from lower gen tapes, better transfers etc.)all the time. This upload is a great illustration of the situation in the Queen sharing world. No info, no nothing. And I don't mean to insult the uploader because probably the uploader doesn't even know how it should be done. Few people know, and the ones that know will not share. |
| YourValentine 08.01.2009 05:02 |
It's apparently a flac version plus artwork jpgs. You can see it like this: click on the torrent file and choose "open" instead of "download", your BitTorrent client opens and will show you the files including file size. 2 CDs with approx 350 MB each looks like flac. |
| pittrek 08.01.2009 07:21 |
on my way up wrote: Over the past few months I explored the music(some of it)of Frank Zappa. I also downloaded a few shows from Zappateers. That's the fans/collectors sharing site. It's the most impressive site of that kind that I've ever seen. People treat each other and Zappa and his musicians with respect and they share whatever they have. They know what they're talking about: both regarding the recordings(who taped, what equipment, who did the transfer and when, what generation of tape,...) and the performances. Here on QZ Queen fans are selfish, whenever someone asks a question the chances are bigger that person gets an insult than a helpful reply. And when it comes down to sharing we get these kind of uploads....totally unbelievable. I'm a very disappointed Queen fan actually. I know we had this kind of discussion before but the condition of the sharing forum is piss poor. There are no other words for it. I'm really sad about it. And you know who's an idiot: someone who shares something NEW(being something which hasn't been online before or that few traders have managed to get). Do you know why? Well, all the others will download, say thank you and keep whatever they have for themselves. By the way, I think about 4 new Zappa recordings have emerged, in 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(I know we're only 08/01) And there was new stuff in december 2008 too. Actually, there are upgrades(from lower gen tapes, better transfers etc.)all the time. This upload is a great illustration of the situation in the Queen sharing world. No info, no nothing. And I don't mean to insult the uploader because probably the uploader doesn't even know how it should be done. Few people know, and the ones that know will not share.I fully understand you (and agree) but please note that there ARE rules, for uploading a torrent here, e.g. UPLOAD THE FILE TO QUEENZONE.COM TRACKER: Go to the sharing the music forum on queenzone.com and start a new topic. The title should state what the file is: e.g. ANNOUNCE: Expo 92 - Guitar legend DVD video The body should provide additional material such as tracklisting, orginal source,etc. The problem is that almost nobody obeys the rules, but PLEASE, don't let this turn into another one of these discussions [img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] |
| marcoekelo 08.01.2009 09:09 |
Hi, I can understand your concerns, but I did notice that these recordings have been requested over the past weeks, and I have been in contact with some of these persons to share this in a private way. I did find these recordings on the Queenhub, and in this manner, there is no more information on the details of these recordings. And I have neither the knowledge nor the interest to learn all about audio recordings, flacs etc. For these recordings I have been able to download via this site, I will try to share using the same torrents, and just do the seeding. For those recordings that are not shared (and for the ones I have recently uploaded, none were shared before, according to my search activities), either we accept that these are not shared in QZ, or we accept that these are shared without the information that some of you would like to know. Of course we |
| pittrek 08.01.2009 09:14 |
Marco, don't take Queenzone too seriously. The persons before me wanted simply to say the "Queen Paris 1986 as requested by some" is not enough information. You could at least write if it's audio or video, if nothing else. However thanks for the share, I already have this but it's nice that people share relatively new stuff |
| L-R-TIGER1994 08.01.2009 09:49 |
Well this is what I think: link I was planning to share some new stuff(for ex:The Cross in Esslingen 88 and Osnabruck 88 in FLAC)but ..... |
| ryou_akipe 08.01.2009 10:36 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Well this is what I think: link I was planning to share some new stuff(for ex:The Cross in Esslingen 88 and Osnabruck 88 in FLAC)but ..... I'm sorry troubling you.I was examining HUB.However,I was not able to acquier HUB account.It has requested it to following Topi for such reasons. link |
| vivaqueen 08.01.2009 11:57 |
merci beaucoup |
| YourValentine 08.01.2009 12:22 |
Hello ryou_akipe Please go to http://www.thequeenhub.tk/ and click on join Enter a nick name, password, country, city and email address and how many Gigabytes Queen stuff you can share. (you should share 2 Gigabytes) Click on submit It can take about 2 weeks until you get a confirmation email, please check your spam filter. If you have problems, please search for Masahiko, a Japanese user who is in the hub and can help you. Send him a private message. I hope that helps. See you soon in the hub:) |
| FaBu 08.01.2009 12:51 |
pittrek wrote: Marco, don't take Queenzone too seriously. The persons before me wanted simply to say the "Queen Paris 1986 as requested by some" is not enough information. You could at least write if it's audio or video, if nothing else. However thanks for the share, I already have this but it's nice that people share relatively new stuff I was the first to say thank you, because I, and others, have been requesting these last shows of the Magic tour for months, but nothing has happened. When some of these recordings finaly shows up, I think It's great although I too miss a bit more information. Now there are two shows left from the Magic Tour never shared on QZ, the two from Munic. I ask you to please share them. I respect your work very much, and with your uploads we know what we get.[img=/images/smiley/msn/regular_smile.gif][/img] |
| The Real Wizard 08.01.2009 13:41 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: I was planning to share some new stuff(for ex:The Cross in Esslingen 88 and Osnabruck 88 in FLAC)but ..... and... >there's always a complain "it's incomplete" "there's no linage" "there is a better version" "this and that" they want perfection and quality? Hilarious. We all bow down to your bounty and wisdom. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 08.01.2009 14:24 |
Yaaaaaaaawn!!!...boring toooo boring!!!!!. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 08.01.2009 15:03 |
Congratulations SirGH(AKA Mr-know-all)you and others wanted to preserve good standards and quality on the board,you finally got it!!!now we have Evan Porada's important posts,The Archivist(whoever the fuck this person is)very long useless empty messages and many people that think that by attacking,insulting or giving quick answers to any thing here means they are better or deserve a high status(SIR...YOUR MAJESTY...YOUR HIGHTNESS).We can find very intelligent posts like "where is John Deacon?" and "Do you like Hot Space?".Each time a person uploads something the first post is usually for complaints,does the words "THANK YOU" exist on the board?I recall some years ago,it was plenty of things,I dowloaded at least 4 o 5 boots a week,you may remember this don't you?,now we can find anything everywhere else cos if you consider this board as one of the best(it used t be one)it's very far away from reality.Then came FLAC and it was the same,no stupid posts like "We should ban mp3 followers!!!" or ungratefull people,now everyone's effort is not taking into account,this person is a newbie and posts 2 shows or 3 in FLAC,what he got was:"NO LINEAGE OR INFORMATION PROVIDED!" that's not very motivating for uploading things here really,count how many things are uploaded.... PS:as I said if anyone wants something you can find me on the HUB,it's easier and more peaceful place,I'm really fed up of certain people...ditto and good bye. |
| FaBu 08.01.2009 15:36 |
Sir GH wrote:L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: I was planning to share some new stuff(for ex:The Cross in Esslingen 88 and Osnabruck 88 in FLAC)but .....and... >there's always a complain "it's incomplete" "there's no linage" "there is a better version" "this and that" they want perfection and quality? Hilarious. We all bow down to your bounty and wisdom. Perhaps I should ask you to share the two Munic shows? I'm sure you have them, and know how it's done right[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] |
| TheGame 08.01.2009 17:30 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote:
Congratulations SirGH(AKA Mr-know-all)you and others wanted to preserve good standards and quality on the board,you finally got it!!!Each time a person uploads something the first post is usually for complaints,does the words "THANK YOU" exist on the board?I recall some years ago,it was plenty of things,I dowloaded at least 4 o 5 boots a week,you may remember this don't you?,now we can find anything everywhere else cos if you consider this board as one of the best(it used t be one)it's very far away from reality.Then came FLAC and it was the same,no stupid posts like "We should ban mp3 followers!!!" or ungratefull people,now everyone's effort is not taking into account,this person is a newbie and posts 2 shows or 3 in FLAC,what he got was:"NO LINEAGE OR INFORMATION PROVIDED!" that's not very motivating for uploading things here really,count how many things are uploaded....
I'm really fed up of certain people...ditto and good bye.
2.nd Bob's post. We bow down to your wisdom! Thanks to people like SirGH and his shares we get something we can call quality and the best version available. I could mention other people who share stuff, but it seems like you have an agenda against SirGH, so i only mentioned him. It's really irritating to read all this stuff. You are the one who are ungrateful Tiger. BTW, you mentioned its so easy to get shows on other sites. Where have you lived the recent years, your summary just dont add up. Most of the shows which are shared elsewhere was first shared at QZ. Without QZ, the shares would not be available other places. QZ have never been one of the best when it comes to quality standards and your comments shows my point ( others will understand). You talk about effort....yeah, its really hard to dowload stuff from the HUB and then upload it here. Dont get me wrong, its OK that people does that, but i cant really call it a big effort. Im much more thankful to people who share their silvers, personal complications ( like SirGH and people like Pittrek have shared) and recordings members on this board have tried to improve with software. Now THAT takes an effort and those people who does this DO deserve to get credited. Take the Drammen 82 bootleg. Everyone wanted it, but most people just wanted it because it was rare. When it was shared, it was mostly hit and run. Peronally, i used alot of effort to get a personal copy of this show. I had it before it was shared and then suddenly everyone had it. That was OK by me, but i get irritated when people want everything and when its finally shared....well, then its just another download and time to request a new one. Now THAT attitude is NOT something that motivate people to share stuff here. Fed up...well, ditto to you....and goodbye. A small editon: I see the Munich shows are request. So according to your summery, its more convenient to just share the HUB version than to perhaps get an better version from a genuine share which includes ripping, editing etc ? According to you, quality is not for people on this board, but only for the ones who trade and wants quality? I know i write difficult and not logical, but i just dont get where you are heading.... |
| The Real Wizard 08.01.2009 17:34 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Each time a person uploads something the first post is usually for complaints,does the words "THANK YOU" exist on the board? This thread should speak for itself: link >now we can find anything everywhere else Yes, please tell us about all these great things you have found for free download that you were surely the first to stumble upon. >cos if you consider this board as one of the best(it used t be one)it's very far away from reality. Nothing gets by you, does it? >Then came FLAC and it was the same,no stupid posts like "We should ban mp3 followers!!!" Yeah, stupid FLAC... this shift in mentality only gave us things like the new (and often master) tapes from Portland 74, Dallas 78, Vancouver 78, two nights in London 84, Manchester 86, etc. - but note that these tapers shared their material elsewhere, and not here... and you probably will never understand why. Unearth a new thirty-year-old tape and then tell us you've done something worth reading about. |
| The Real Wizard 08.01.2009 17:34 |
FaBu wrote: Perhaps I should ask you to share the two Munic shows? I'm sure you have them, and know how it's done right[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] I have the first night from LP, but unfortunately it's lossy. But I've got a great copy of the second night, and gladly I'll share. I'll just need a day or two to get it all worked out. See Tiger... it's as easy as that. But the funny thing is... even though you don't agree with the way people with quality standards conduct their business, I bet you'll be the first to download it without thanking the taper, the person who transferred it to digital, or the sharer. In fact, when I shared my compilation of the two copies of the Toronto 78 audience tape, your response was something to the effect of "same old shows over and over again"... that's rich, coming from someone who criticizes others for not thanking people for lossy or otherwise superfluous shares. >ditto and good bye. Don't slam the door on your way out. |
| L-R-TIGER1994 08.01.2009 18:34 |
List of shows that I've found OUTSIDE QZ: Hamburg 82. Phoenix 80. Rio 85(second night). Munich 86(second night). Phoenix 77. Wurzburg 82. Berlin 84. Sapporo 79(first night). Munich 84. Dortmund 84. Paris 80. Philadelphia 82. Nagoya 85. Zurich 80. London 11-05-78. Dortmund 82. Cologne 82. Oakland 82. Berlin 80. Barcelona 79(first night). The Cross: Osnabruck 88. Mannheim 88. Esslingen 88. St Wendel 90. Nuremberg 90. most of the 98 Brian Tour..and so on..... for the ones who care.meet you on the HUB. |
| TimBHM 08.01.2009 19:09 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: Congratulations SirGH(AKA Mr-know-all)you and others wanted to preserve good standards and quality on the board,you finally got it!!!now we have Evan Porada's important posts,The Archivist(whoever the fuck this person is)very long useless empty messages and many people that think that by attacking,insulting or giving quick answers to any thing here means they are better or deserve a high status(SIR...YOUR MAJESTY...YOUR HIGHTNESS).We can find very intelligent posts like "where is John Deacon?" and "Do you like Hot Space?".Each time a person uploads something the first post is usually for complaints,does the words "THANK YOU" exist on the board?I recall some years ago,it was plenty of things,I dowloaded at least 4 o 5 boots a week,you may remember this don't you?,now we can find anything everywhere else cos if you consider this board as one of the best(it used t be one)it's very far away from reality.Then came FLAC and it was the same,no stupid posts like "We should ban mp3 followers!!!" or ungratefull people,now everyone's effort is not taking into account,this person is a newbie and posts 2 shows or 3 in FLAC,what he got was:"NO LINEAGE OR INFORMATION PROVIDED!" that's not very motivating for uploading things here really,count how many things are uploaded.... PS:as I said if anyone wants something you can find me on the HUB,it's easier and more peaceful place,I'm really fed up of certain people...ditto and good bye. Are we really having this argument again? Tiger, if you're unhappy with the way the website works then just leave or here;s an idea - shut up complaining and try to do something about it? Frankly I can't see how you can possibly be taking swipes at Sir GH - he's done far more for to preserve and promote quality and to put rare gigs into the fans hands than you ever have. And, frankly, resorting to cheap insults the way you have says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about the person you're trying to insult. |
| The Real Wizard 09.01.2009 00:29 |
L-R-TIGER1994 wrote: List of shows that I've found OUTSIDE QZ: Congratulations, you found a lot of stuff that's commonly available... just not here. Tell me, what exactly have you given back to the world of collecting that has given so much to you? I'm talking about tracking down new recordings that 99% of collectors haven't heard before, so re-sharing things here or in the hub doesn't count. So in other words, since the answer to that question is precisely "zero", the question is therefore revised to... what in your ungrateful and clearly mean-spirited mind warrants your lashing out against contributing members? And on top of that, what in your mind is somehow convinced that lashing out against these kinds of people will actually spawn new recordings? Or are you one of those people who thinks new recordings magically fall out of the sky, i.e. not considering the process that gets the recording from the concert venue to you to point, click, and download ? |
| ryou_akipe 09.01.2009 03:07 |
YourValentine wrote: Hello ryou_akipe Please go to http://www.thequeenhub.tk/ and click on join Enter a nick name, password, country, city and email address and how many Gigabytes Queen stuff you can share. (you should share 2 Gigabytes) Click on submit It can take about 2 weeks until you get a confirmation email, please check your spam filter. If you have problems, please search for Masahiko, a Japanese user who is in the hub and can help you. Send him a private message. I hope that helps. See you soon in the hub:) Hello YourValentine .Thank you for detailed explanation of HUB . The account of HUB is acquired like your explanation. Thank you really for this time. |
| frank39 14.01.2009 06:03 |
Turning, Turning,...and turning again ( Zappa ) Same old story over and over again. My proposition is: 3 Upload sections: Videos, DVDs etc. The upload MUST AT LEAST contain: Venue, Date, LIneage if possible, video details, like Bitrate, PAL/NTSC, audio details like LPCM, AC3, etc., Tracklist. Any comments are welcome but no MUST Audio CDs etc. flac only uploads ( yes SIr, its me who proposes that ) The upload MUST AT LEAST contain all the relevant details.Tracklist, Lineage, Bitrate...Any comments are welcome but no MUST. A kind of Lossy section, can't find a fitting name. Here every MP3 fan can upload his stuff. MP3 only allowed, if there is no lossless copy upped yet. Here you should also be able to find (obviously) lossy videos in MPG, MOV. or Ipod files etc. These restrictions work very well on other trackers, but as long as the site owner seems to ignore these reduntant discussions like in this thread, it will be like Zappa said. And Sir I-know-it-all: Have you ever counted the years, how long this stupid discussion goes? It must be 6/7 years. And last not least, can somebody answer me a few questions: I know this question doesn't belong into this thread, but I feel like asking them right here. Did the famous Queenarchivist ever give answers to following questions. (I don't read the discussion forum very often for obvious reasons) : In 2002 we expected a Box containing 4 single Boxsets. Is the latest Box release the poor result after 6 years? Will there ever be a chance to BUY Hammersmith 75/79, Earls Court, Houston? And: There MUST be excellent copies from at least 3 shows, not completely circulated yet: (maybe hoarded by some I-know-it-all) Munich 78 Rainbow 31.3.1974 Rock in Rio complete 1985 I'm sure, there exists not only a proshot of 2 songs like on Jap. Jewels Rainbow 31.3.1974 is also a proshot. All the preparations to do a proshot, were surely not done to take just 2 tracks. I just bought a copy of Rio complete from Trancer, either it was a 20 gen copy from the master or the guy who stole the tape didn't know how to copy correctly. In the last case there will be no chance for a good copy, in the first case: C'mon people: Get your asses going...like Freddie used to say, and give it to the Queen world. |
| The Real Wizard 14.01.2009 23:58 |
frank39 wrote: And Sir I-know-it-all: Have you ever counted the years, how long this stupid discussion goes? It must be 6/7 years. Why are you addressing me with such a condescending tone, as if I'm the only person who has initiated/engaged in such a discussion? Sure, I get into the discussions, but I don't except anything to change here. At most, I often find certain people's replies and attitudes amusing or revealing in some way, but in the long run I really don't care that much... |
| frank39 15.01.2009 07:35 |
I didn't want to offend you, Sir. If you felt like that, I say sorry. But still, your attidude is: " I know it all " Anyway, lets stop it. I'd be much more interested in the answers to my questions. If you know anything more about these three shows (all proshots), I'd be happy if you send me an email. And last not least, I can only advise everybody here on QZ, to have a look at the U2, Zappa, etc. fanpages. And have a look at other torrent trackers. In none of the popular trackers would it be possible to do such an upload like in this thread: as requested by someone of you. Queen Paris 1986. !!!! What? Audio, DVD, MP3, MPG,? And Barbara, your advise in this case is not really helpfull. You seem o have a good contact to the QZ site owner, please ask him about this point. Compared with Zappateers and others, this upload forum has become a kind of Kindergarden meanwhile. ( right translation: Kindergaten>Kindergarden ??) Everybody can upload anything he wants. No infos. no tracklist, no lineage, no Bitrates, no audiocodecs, nothing. I wonder how long this will go on. |
| pittrek 15.01.2009 07:50 |
frank39 wrote: I wonder how long this will go on. I guess forever |
| The Real Wizard 15.01.2009 13:33 |
frank39 wrote: I didn't want to offend you, Sir. If you felt like that, I say sorry. But still, your attidude is: " I know it all " And there should be nothing wrong with being openly knowledgeable on a subject. Let's suppose this was a topic about cooking. A chef posts his informed opinion on which spices should be used to perfect a certain dish, is refuted by someone with no expertise time and time again, and finally he resorts to some (admittedly fun) sarcasm. Instead of calling him a know-it-all at some point down the line, one should be wise enough to realize who's opinion is more credible from day one of the discussion. Myself, I'd be listening to the chef, not the person who gets his recipes from the boxes of microwavable dinners. |
| TimBHM 15.01.2009 14:38 |
Ah give it up Bob. It would appear that a certain section of the community really doesn't care if what they are listening to sounds like it's being played under water. You'd think they'd be more appreciative that someone who had acquired such a wealth of knowledge actually cared enough about a complete stranger's enjoyment to want to share that info but instead it seems as if they are only interested in listening to their own voices and bizarrely skewed opinions. However those of us who actually do give a crap will gladly continue to defer to your knowledge and experience. |
| Gregsynth 13.04.2010 20:00 |
Please seed! |
| Gregsynth 20.04.2010 21:54 |
Please seed! |