| Major Tom 07.12.2008 18:10 |
At first glance I found this FUCKING HILARIOUS. But then I watched these two clips through, now, I don't really know. I'm not into Beatles so I can't really tell. What do you think? Could be true or plain BS? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lkA1GOQ_vU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3KOBKFa5s&feature=related |
| john bodega 07.12.2008 21:29 |
Please; don't be a gullible idiot. If he's dead, then the Titanic was swapped and men didn't walk on the Moon. Think about it; anyone can impersonate Macca. No one can write a song as lousy as "Spies Like Us", unless he's really Paul McCartney. Hahaha |
| Major Tom 08.12.2008 02:09 |
Maybe I'm just slowly turning into TM due to my regular visits to QZ? But what about this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvRi7fhGRgU&feature=related |
| john bodega 08.12.2008 05:24 |
Hahaha... now that I know you're kidding, all is well. You had me worried for a minute. |
| Major Tom 08.12.2008 06:43 |
Well, I have to say I'm very interested in conspiracy theories and how they tend to fuck people up. I can see how maybe the CIA were involved with the assassination of JFK, but this is...in a whole different league. I am also very much into reverse speech and stuff like that. Basicly cause I like the unknown. Well, this could have happened, in theory, cause they do look like twins. |
| Marcos Napier 08.12.2008 09:22 |
Where have you been in the last 40 years? Ask that one-legged bitch if he's dead or not... |
| john bodega 08.12.2008 10:52 |
Dr. Pepper(The Spiceman) wrote: Well, I have to say I'm very interested in conspiracy theories There isn't much to them. They can be entertaining reading, and good for a laugh, but that's where it should begin and end. They're merely an outlet for paranoid people, and a byproduct of the human tendency to not want to believe certain things (ie. with 9/11 they don't like thinking that there are people out there that could commit such awful acts, so it's easier to lie and say the government did it). That's why so many people go for them. A lot of these theories are tailored to human weakness and gullibility. |
| April 08.12.2008 14:14 |
The story about Paul's being dead is quite famous and was promoted by the Beatles themselves. i am sure they enjoyed it to the full. There is even a book about the whole thing, which actually doesn't say if it is true or not. Certainly it's not. In reality it wasn't John Lennon who burried Paul but vice versa, Paul burried John. And today is the day of John Lennon's death. I love John Lennon and will always miss him. Miss you, Johnny!!!!! |
| Marcos Napier 08.12.2008 14:33 |
Have you read his bio, "Many years from now"? It's a good reading, at least to see things from his own point of view. It's a little boring when describing things too artsy and all the tech and admin stuff behind Apple (and how it wasted tons of money), but it's interesting. My edition was published prior to Linda's death I guess and has a different cover art. |
| April 08.12.2008 15:47 |
Marcos Napier wrote: Have you read his bio, "Many years from now"? It's a good reading, at least to see things from his own point of view. It's a little boring when describing things too artsy and all the tech and admin stuff behind Apple (and how it wasted tons of money), but it's interesting. My edition was published prior to Linda's death I guess and has a different cover art. No, I haven't read the book but now will definitely do it thanks to your recommendations! I certainly have the huge Beatles Anthology book and Rough Guide To The Beatles, which is not rough at all, but detailed. Some other books as well. My last buy was The Beatles Unseen Archives, which I bought this Sunday. Great pics! I have Queen books too, no doubt. Thank you, Marcos, for advice! Hope we will run into each other again in this forum! |
| Marcos Napier 08.12.2008 17:46 |
You're welcome. Another very good book I read about them was (a pdf this time...) one with the complete recording sessions and their descriptions (I think the name is like that, the complete recordings/sessions or something). It's very very detailed and gives hints about lots of unreleased stuff and many interesting details about mixing, composing and recording and the techniques they used. I think we will never see such thing in the Queen realm. From what I read of Paul's bio, it can be said that he was the "business guy", always worried about the "institution" that was The Beatles (and Apple). John was the dreamer, George was the musician and Ringo was just having some fun. John probably didn't have the stability anymore to manage a band that big (mostly after Yoko), Harrison was more interested in music and Ringo... well... is Ringo. There isn't any gossip, drug experiences stories or anything like that. It's just Paul telling his story. Once I had my hands on that nice songbook called The Compleat Beatles (it came with a VHS I think, 2 volumes), but when I could buy it ($$) it was just gone, even at Ebay. Seems that it was replaced with another songbook, that is not bad either and it even has the scores for other instruments too (even drums!) while the Compleat had just for guitars I think. BTW once I read another bio, of Clapton (Crossroads is the name)... hated it. I'm still looking for Hammer of the Gods. |
| April 09.12.2008 15:46 |
I think you are right saying that Paul was a business guy, but unfortunately this very fact spoils his career as a musician, the more so as a rocker. I believe it even ruins his legacy somehow. IMO a rocker should be a bit uninterested in such things as making money, money, money. A true rocker should be a bit above it. Well, certainly money matters, but not to such an extent. And Macca is too pragmatic, he even had his wife take place in the band to get more royalties, thus 50 % for the songs. And the legend is that the stuff (engineers) used to unplug her when the Wings were singing, so that she wouldn't ruin the concert with her voice! Though no doubt Paul is a great musician! |
| JoxerTheDeityPirate 10.12.2008 04:21 |
Heather Mills has just got the final settlement from the divorce: she got a plane....and a shaver for the other leg i know its old but i still like it. anyway this thread reminded me of something else,a little rhyme from Eric Idle: oh life its so unfair,it took away Sonny and left us with Cher |
| Major Tom 11.08.2009 17:29 |
Ok guys. I have revived this thead for a reason and my question to you is: Can you handle this? If so, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLX6lkGBQqw&feature=related I'm loving it, this conspiracy theory rules! |
| catqueen 11.08.2009 18:02 |
I can't handle it. Oh my goodness. "Help". :) I used to love conspiracy theories, still do enjoy them to an extent, but I have a few friends who are kind of paranoid about some of them, so it makes me a bit wary of them. I had this surreal experience at a friend's barbeque a few months ago of sitting at a table with a group of people who were talking about the 'fact' that Satanists are taking over the world (I was a bit confused actually, because they referred to Satanists, black witches, white witches and Wiccans as essentially the same, which they are not. They also discussed some kind of connection between Wicca and Masonry.) Anyway, they are supposedly taking over the world for their evil purposes, and are in control of all the banks, etc. And they also control the music industry apparantly, and contemporary music, esp rock is their way of brainwashing us to their worldview. All major artists and labels are involved. At this point I asked if this was maybe a little exagerated and was told taht there is a very lengthy and in depth documentary which goes through all the major artists and shows how they are satanic. I was like 'Ok, Queen. How are they possibly satanic?' And was told ... of course... Beelzebub has a devil put aside for me... and how Bo Rhap is about losing the fight against evil. And those who are not overtly satanic (eg Britney Spears) are using their seductive powers to lead people into the labels worldview. AND the government can moniter people by reversing the beams of their tvs, so they are prepairing to control and keep track of everyone when they have to. And if you have a computor you're in big trouble, cos you really can't escape. And it's dangerous to use a credit card. Direct debit cards are also dodgy, but not as bad, unless they have pin number. I am not joking. This was all in the dinnertime conversation! And more that I can't remember, I was kind of freaked out, I eventually left for a while under the pretense of going to the toilet. And they are normal people. They are lovely people, actually, which is partly why it freaked me out so much. |
| andreas_mercury 12.08.2009 03:21 |
i used to laugh in this myself!!! then i found to there being people who actaully BELIEVE IT... i stopped laughing. |
| Major Tom 12.08.2009 03:53 |
Well, I laugh at you. Complete circle. Thank you universe. |
| LoosingMyBeat 12.08.2009 04:05 |
Just Ridiculous! Funny tho! |
| andreas_mercury 12.08.2009 04:29 |
Major Tom wrote: Well, I laugh at you. Complete circle. Thank you universe.huh?? i wasnt laughing at YOU i am laughing at the retards who believe this shit... i dont laugh at you at all your one of the better posters here. :sorry. |
| The Real Wizard 12.08.2009 13:59 |
Zebonka12 wrote: There isn't much to them. They can be entertaining reading, and good for a laugh, but that's where it should begin and end. They're merely an outlet for paranoid people, and a byproduct of the human tendency to not want to believe certain thingsSo any theory challenging what is generally accepted to be an official explanation is to be labeled as a conspiracy theory, despite any evidence however supportive or futile? with 9/11 they don't like thinking that there are people out there that could commit such awful acts, so it's easier to lie and say the government did itThat explanation makes no sense, as it still entails someone being able to commit such awful acts - their government as opposed to people from another country. The most common reason given is that it gave the government an excuse to go to Iraq to kill the terrorists in the interests of keeping the American people safe. They achieved their principal goals in 2003 by capturing Saddam and his son, yet they are still there. A lot of these theories are tailored to human weakness and gullibility. Targeting human weakness is certainly not limited to conspiracy theories. |
| john bodega 12.08.2009 14:59 |
"So any theory challenging what is generally accepted to be an official explanation is to be labeled as a conspiracy theory, despite any evidence however supportive or futile?" Not exactly. I think that's a different topic; 'what should be qualified as a theory?'. Actually I think most theories would sit more cosily under the banner of 'bullshit theories' as opposed to 'conspiracy theories'. They're related, of course, because they reek of denial and a lack of solid fact. "That explanation makes no sense, as it still entails someone being able to commit such awful acts - their government as opposed to people from another country." Inasmuch as the term 'conspiracy theory' is sometimes applied wrongly to a shonky theory with little or no thought put into it, 'the government' is (admittedly in my post as well) a term used not to denote a bunch of people, but some faceless entity that the public can blame for things so that they don't have to waste too much time thinking about the long term causes for the problems in the world today. True - one could say "if Western countries had been more sensitive in their dealings with the Middle East during and after World War I and paid more attention to the consequences of establishing Israel when and where they did, and if we hadn't kept on funding little wars all over the shop without thinking of the implications ... maybe we wouldn't be having hijacked planes flown into our buildings". Judging by our old friend the internet, it seems a lot easier for people to look at blurry images of an alleged missile stuck to the bottom of an airliner and say 'this is proof that the government did it'. "Targeting human weakness is certainly not limited to conspiracy theories." Oh well if you take it literally, you could say that Tic-Tac packaging is targeted at human weakness. God only knows my resolve is tested every time I pass one of those things. I have to stress; this is a thread about the "Paul is Dead" shtick. There couldn't be a worse place to discuss the validity or cause of conspiracy theories. |
| The Real Wizard 12.08.2009 16:38 |
Zebonka12 wrote: 'the government' is (admittedly in my post as well) a term used not to denote a bunch of people, but some faceless entity that the public can blame for things so that they don't have to waste too much time thinking about the long term causes for the problems in the world today.Very true. True - one could say "if Western countries had been more sensitive in their dealings with the Middle East during and after World War I and paid more attention to the consequences of establishing Israel when and where they did, and if we hadn't kept on funding little wars all over the shop without thinking of the implications ... maybe we wouldn't be having hijacked planes flown into our buildings".Truer words have rarely been spoken. this is a thread about the "Paul is Dead" shtick. There couldn't be a worse place to discuss the validity or cause of conspiracy theories.Fair enough! |
| Major Tom 12.08.2009 16:52 |
I edited this post, as some of you might get offended by the possibilities I wrote. I don't want to make enemies. I still feel sick to this day when watching the planes hit the WTC. I left this slice of thoughts.. Big brother feeds us fear, cause we comsume more when we're afraid. I tend to look at things with a sceptic eye, not with a paranoid. |